Re: [OSM-talk] New building colour

2015-01-05 Thread Andreas Goss
IMHO it is much better - on low zoom levels maps is now less cluttered and on high zoom levels POIs are now more visible. +1 Honestly I love this simple grey for buildings. I think they are visible enough, but don't stick out too much. Which in my opinion is exactly how it is supposed to be

Re: [OSM-talk] New building colour

2015-01-04 Thread Jóhannes Birgir Jensson
The new color looks even worse in non-garden areas where the new building color vanishes into the residential area background. Old and new colors in Kópavogur, Iceland: https://www.dropbox.com/s/vo7pyhsuciqlppq/z16.png?dl=0 Old color in Maun, Botswana:

Re: [OSM-talk] New building colour

2015-01-04 Thread Dave F.
I stand corrected. Thanks On 04/01/2015 12:49, Tom Hughes wrote: On 04/01/15 12:04, Dave F. wrote: IMO (why do people use 'H' to say there opinion is honest? Surely all opinion is that?), the new appearance is better. As can be seen from Andreas image the building's numbers are much clearer,

Re: [OSM-talk] New building colour

2015-01-04 Thread Dave F.
Hi As has been pointed out, there was a discussion which all were invited to join in. IMO (why do people use 'H' to say there opinion is honest? Surely all opinion is that?), the new appearance is better. As can be seen from Andreas image the building's numbers are much clearer, which is

Re: [OSM-talk] New building colour

2015-01-04 Thread Jóhannes Birgir Jensson
Also none of the demos linked had Landuse=residential as background - the lack of contrast there as buildings merge into the landuse is my biggest issue with this change. However this seems to be a nice way of telling us to stop using that tag - you are not supposed to map for the renderer

Re: [OSM-talk] New building colour

2015-01-04 Thread Tom Hughes
On 04/01/15 12:04, Dave F. wrote: IMO (why do people use 'H' to say there opinion is honest? Surely all opinion is that?), the new appearance is better. As can be seen from Andreas image the building's numbers are much clearer, which is more worthwhile than viewing the exact, intricate outline

Re: [OSM-talk] New building colour

2015-01-04 Thread Jóhannes Birgir Jensson
Þann 4.1.2015 12:15, skrifaði Maarten Deen: On 2015-01-04 11:33, Mateusz Konieczny wrote: Note that there was Request for feedback: new building colours in openstreetmap-carto thread before this change was made. I missed that, but it was only a two day discussion where I see people for and

Re: [OSM-talk] New building colour

2015-01-04 Thread Lester Caine
On 04/01/15 12:04, Dave F. wrote: As has been pointed out, there was a discussion which all were invited to join in. In the past these have not been discussions since in many cases the changes have already been made! And a couple of days over a holiday period when people are away from their

Re: [OSM-talk] New building colour

2015-01-04 Thread Lester Caine
On 04/01/15 12:50, Jóhannes Birgir Jensson wrote: However this seems to be a nice way of telling us to stop using that tag - you are not supposed to map for the renderer but if the default renderer makes the buildings nearly impossible to see if they are on top of Landuse=Residential then

Re: [OSM-talk] New building colour

2015-01-04 Thread Dave F.
Hi Jóhannes It was a reply to the thread in general the OP; your post just happened to be last. However, I think I did reply to a couple of your points: I prefer the new rendering Addresses are clearer (which you appear to agree with) Accurately draw building outlines, whilst giving the map

Re: [OSM-talk] New building colour

2015-01-04 Thread Dave F.
On 04/01/2015 12:50, Jóhannes Birgir Jensson wrote: Also none of the demos linked had Landuse=residential as background - the lack of contrast there as buildings merge into the landuse is my biggest issue with this change. However this seems to be a nice way of telling us to stop using that

Re: [OSM-talk] New building colour

2015-01-04 Thread Lester Caine
On 04/01/15 13:57, Dave F. wrote: landuse=residential building=yes are not mutually exclusive. Landuse=Residential is useful to show the extent of towns etc without the overhead of detailing all the buildings. But the new building colour is being lost against a very similar contrast landuse

Re: [OSM-talk] New building colour

2015-01-04 Thread Dave F.
I'd hardly describe it as lost. On 04/01/2015 14:08, Lester Caine wrote: On 04/01/15 13:57, Dave F. wrote: landuse=residential building=yes are not mutually exclusive. Landuse=Residential is useful to show the extent of towns etc without the overhead of detailing all the buildings. But the

Re: [OSM-talk] New building colour

2015-01-04 Thread Michael Andersen
Søndag den 4. januar 2015 14:08:55 skrev Lester Caine: On 04/01/15 13:57, Dave F. wrote: landuse=residential building=yes are not mutually exclusive. Landuse=Residential is useful to show the extent of towns etc without the overhead of detailing all the buildings. But the new building

Re: [OSM-talk] New building colour

2015-01-04 Thread SomeoneElse
On 04/01/2015 13:01, Lester Caine wrote: Perhaps now is the time to be looking again at real time rendering with a selectable style sheet, or perhaps simply a base layer on top of which different languages and styles can be selected. That sort of thing has been suggested before(1) but having

Re: [OSM-talk] New building colour

2015-01-04 Thread Janko Mihelić
I like how churches have a darker colour. I'd like for schools, hospitals and other more important buildings to also have the darker colour. 2015-01-04 18:34 GMT+01:00 SomeoneElse li...@atownsend.org.uk: On 04/01/2015 13:01, Lester Caine wrote: Perhaps now is the time to be looking again at

Re: [OSM-talk] New building colour

2015-01-04 Thread Mateusz Konieczny
see https://github.com/gravitystorm/openstreetmap-carto/issues/1176 for special redering of elements tagged both as building=* and historic=castle. You may create github issue(s) with additional suggestion(s) for detecting that building is important. 2015-01-04 18:57 GMT+01:00 Janko Mihelić

[OSM-talk] New building colour

2015-01-04 Thread Andreas Labres
Hi! The old building colour looks much better than the new one, IMHO: https://www.openstreetmap.at/karte/Wolfersberg-alt-neu.png Especially in garden districts. /al ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org

Re: [OSM-talk] New building colour

2015-01-04 Thread Maarten Deen
On 2015-01-04 09:22, Andreas Labres wrote: Hi! The old building colour looks much better than the new one, IMHO: https://www.openstreetmap.at/karte/Wolfersberg-alt-neu.png Especially in garden districts. Agreed. Left is old, right is new. Regards, Maarten

Re: [OSM-talk] New building colour

2015-01-04 Thread Tom Hughes
On 04/01/15 08:22, Andreas Labres wrote: The old building colour looks much better than the new one, IMHO: https://www.openstreetmap.at/karte/Wolfersberg-alt-neu.png Especially in garden districts. I disagree. The new building colour looks much better than the old one, IMHO. HTH

Re: [OSM-talk] New building colour

2015-01-04 Thread Maarten Deen
On 2015-01-04 11:02, Tom Hughes wrote: On 04/01/15 08:22, Andreas Labres wrote: The old building colour looks much better than the new one, IMHO: https://www.openstreetmap.at/karte/Wolfersberg-alt-neu.png Especially in garden districts. I disagree. The new building colour looks much

Re: [OSM-talk] New building colour

2015-01-04 Thread Mateusz Konieczny
Note that there was Request for feedback: new building colours in openstreetmap-carto thread before this change was made. IMHO it is much better - on low zoom levels maps is now less cluttered and on high zoom levels POIs are now more visible. 2015-01-04 9:22 GMT+01:00 Andreas Labres

Re: [OSM-talk] New building colour

2015-01-04 Thread andrzej zaborowski
I don't care much for specific colours but I would like the original differentiation between building types to be kept or improved. It was more subtle than the proposed important buildings style, but was nice visually and useful. I understand this change was mostly a rewrite and so keeping