Re: [OSM-talk] Should we send automated "nag" emails?

2016-10-10 Thread joost schouppe
The iD logic is that you first draw a polygon, then mark what it is. So what happens is new mappers see a nice little polygon on the map, and forget they still have to mark it as a thing. As you have told iD already that you want to map a polygon, it has already tagged it with "area=yes" (which

Re: [OSM-talk] Should we send automated "nag" emails?

2016-10-09 Thread Michał Brzozowski
On Sun, Oct 9, 2016 at 8:27 PM, john whelan wrote: > To catch the mappers before they get set in their habits? This is, in my opinion, the most underrated wisdom right now. Bad data causes more bad data. This is both by imitation by other users and by implicit approval, or

Re: [OSM-talk] Should we send automated "nag" emails?

2016-10-09 Thread john whelan
The problem is just the sheer volume. I suspect in Africa we are looking at 10,000 or more. Some may well be old edits. Yes in time the web sites that show these things as needing corrections will lead to them being corrected but sitting down and correcting them one at a time takes a lot of

Re: [OSM-talk] Should we send automated "nag" emails?

2016-10-09 Thread Jo
We've been nagging iD developers for months, if not years, about this now. I thought it was resolved a few months back, but apparently not. Why is it necessary to make it so complicated to draw a building that doesn't get uploaded as area=yes in iD? Why not simply default to building=yes or warn

Re: [OSM-talk] Should we send automated "nag" emails?

2016-10-09 Thread john whelan
If you look at parts of Africa in particular there are too many to send out individual emails. HOT doesn't even begin to validate more than half the tiles that its mappers marked done never mind the ones have mapped on. So that's where the question comes from. I'm not saying its all HOT by any

Re: [OSM-talk] Should we send automated "nag" emails?

2016-10-09 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, On 10/09/2016 07:14 PM, john whelan wrote: > I'm seeing many many ways in the map which are untagged. Some are simply > area=yes and I suspect it is not just HOT mappers. HOT mappers or no, if there are many mappers doing this then the rewards must be calibrated badly. Ordinary mappers'

Re: [OSM-talk] Should we send automated "nag" emails?

2016-10-09 Thread JB
Le 09/10/2016 à 19:14, john whelan a écrit : Some are simply area=yes iD there? JOSM is not happy with them and will tell you before you upload. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

[OSM-talk] Should we send automated "nag" emails?

2016-10-09 Thread john whelan
I spend a fair amount of time validating in HOT. This means looking over the work of other mappers. When a tile is marked done I check it and provide feedback. I'm seeing many many ways in the map which are untagged. Some are simply area=yes and I suspect it is not just HOT mappers. To catch