Re: [OSM-talk] very long multiple int_name tags in Near East

2013-11-21 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2013/11/20 Florian Lohoff f...@zz.de As the order on the int_names might have changed due to edits afterwards i'd be very careful to convert them automatically to the name:languagecode version which is the right way to do it. If one could reconstruct the order/tag from the original import

[OSM-talk] very long multiple int_name tags in Near East

2013-11-20 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
I recently noticed that there are very long values in int_name for some cities in Near East, e.g. the City of Sidon: http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/node/564348842 with the int_name value:

Re: [OSM-talk] very long multiple int_name tags in Near East

2013-11-20 Thread Maarten Deen
On 2013-11-20 11:07, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: I recently noticed that there are very long values in int_name for some cities in Near East, e.g. the City of Sidon: http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/node/564348842 [1] with the int_name value:

Re: [OSM-talk] very long multiple int_name tags in Near East

2013-11-20 Thread Pieren
On Wed, Nov 20, 2013 at 11:17 AM, Maarten Deen md...@xs4all.nl wrote: Yes they should. The first version has a comment bulk import of places, so I assume other places in the vicinity have the same problem. Basically it is an example of how not to do imports. Yes. And the changeset is for

Re: [OSM-talk] very long multiple int_name tags in Near East

2013-11-20 Thread Maarten Deen
On 2013-11-20 11:21, Pieren wrote: On Wed, Nov 20, 2013 at 11:17 AM, Maarten Deen md...@xs4all.nl wrote: Yes they should. The first version has a comment bulk import of places, so I assume other places in the vicinity have the same problem. Basically it is an example of how not to do imports.

Re: [OSM-talk] very long multiple int_name tags in Near East

2013-11-20 Thread Peter Wendorff
Hi, What's the international name here? I think int_name should be used only where there is one main international name, that could lead as a fallback for any name not given explicitly, like Beijing (didn't check the spelling now) for what Germans calls Peking, Chinese write in their own symbols

Re: [OSM-talk] very long multiple int_name tags in Near East

2013-11-20 Thread Peter Wendorff
Probably one could rename the int_name-tag for these places to some fixme:name-Tag or something like that to puzzle it for the individual names manually in the near future, but I think the original importers/contributors of these messy tags should be asked about that, making clear that int_name is

Re: [OSM-talk] very long multiple int_name tags in Near East

2013-11-20 Thread Christoph Hormann
On Wednesday 20 November 2013, Peter Wendorff wrote: (I skipped a few because Thunderbird is nearly unusable navigating through a mixed text of left-to-right and right-to-left languages and/or because there isn't a corresponding localized wikipedia page where I could have matched the

Re: [OSM-talk] very long multiple int_name tags in Near East

2013-11-20 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2013/11/20 Peter Wendorff wendo...@uni-paderborn.de Probably Sidon would qualify for int_name here, but int_name should be splitted to individual tags for the languages they correspond to. I agree, but what will we do on a practical level? I checked a dozen arbitrary nodes and apparently

Re: [OSM-talk] very long multiple int_name tags in Near East

2013-11-20 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
I'm putting also the mappers reply on the list, because he asked me so in a second mail because he has not much time at the moment: # Hi sure I can understand english and thank you for this email I contribute to osm in that i get the geonames databases for arabic countries and translate

Re: [OSM-talk] very long multiple int_name tags in Near East

2013-11-20 Thread Florian Lohoff
On Wed, Nov 20, 2013 at 01:13:34PM +0100, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: 2013/11/20 Peter Wendorff wendo...@uni-paderborn.de I agree, but what will we do on a practical level? I checked a dozen arbitrary nodes and apparently nobody has cleaned up any of these in the past 4 years:

Re: [OSM-talk] very long multiple int_name tags in Near East

2013-11-20 Thread Maarten Deen
On 2013-11-20 23:49, Florian Lohoff wrote: On Wed, Nov 20, 2013 at 01:13:34PM +0100, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: 2013/11/20 Peter Wendorff wendo...@uni-paderborn.de I agree, but what will we do on a practical level? I checked a dozen arbitrary nodes and apparently nobody has cleaned up any of