Re: [OSM-talk] xybot edit area size

2010-04-13 Thread Valent Turkovic
On Fri, 09 Apr 2010 16:14:15 +0100, Martin Fossdal Guttesen wrote: The best way to get rid of bot changes is to ensure that as fews as possible errors get into osm Currently even if my area is error free I see errors from across the globe :( -- pratite me na twitteru -

Re: [OSM-talk] xybot edit area size

2010-04-11 Thread Shaun McDonald
On 10 Apr 2010, at 03:33, Martin Fossdal Guttesen wrote: Sorry i dont know Flash or ActionScript and after thinking about it. it would be better to handle it on the server and i dont know rails ruby or what it is called but i have looked at the source and i think i have found the spot

Re: [OSM-talk] xybot edit area size

2010-04-09 Thread Valent Turkovic
On Wed, 07 Apr 2010 07:57:37 +, Valent Turkovic wrote: It would be ideal if it would use small areas of only few square km around each edit, idea beeing so that xybot edits don't show in history tab when looking at some area that wasn't edited. Example of area size that xybot uses:

Re: [OSM-talk] xybot edit area size

2010-04-09 Thread Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
Isn't there some option to osmosis that bot operators could easily use to convert their huge .osc files into something that's split by either 10km^2 or 1000 changes, whatever comes first? ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org

Re: [OSM-talk] xybot edit area size

2010-04-09 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason wrote: Isn't there some option to osmosis that bot operators could easily use to convert their huge .osc files into something that's split by either 10km^2 or 1000 changes, whatever comes first? Neither option exists, and the first one you mention is not even

Re: [OSM-talk] xybot edit area size

2010-04-09 Thread Martin Fossdal Guttesen
To: Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason ava...@gmail.com Cc: talk@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] xybot edit area size Hi, Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason wrote: Isn't there some option to osmosis that bot operators could easily use to convert their huge .osc files into something that's split by either

Re: [OSM-talk] xybot edit area size

2010-04-09 Thread Martin Fossdal Guttesen
To: Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason ava...@gmail.com Cc: talk@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] xybot edit area size Hi, Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason wrote: Isn't there some option to osmosis that bot operators could easily use to convert their huge .osc files into something that's split by either

Re: [OSM-talk] xybot edit area size

2010-04-09 Thread Martin Fossdal Guttesen
) -- From: Richard Fairhurst rich...@systemed.net Sent: Friday, April 09, 2010 4:54 PM To: talk@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] xybot edit area size Martin Fossdal Guttesen wrote: it should be a nobrainer to automaticly remove surrounding whitespace in potlatch when a user enters one

Re: [OSM-talk] xybot edit area size

2010-04-08 Thread Gregory
Ban botsone!!! I don't really like how they run on the whole world, and not even on a country level. Why are they just editing one node here and there, it could make more programmic sense to download an appropriate-sized area, work through it (doing what ever checks these bots deem

Re: [OSM-talk] xybot edit area size

2010-04-08 Thread Frank Sautter
Valent Turkovic schrieb: But still ideal situation is that bots also use much smaller areas for edits so that you see if some bot has changed something in your area of interest, right? most bots (and also xybot) do not have any clue about the spatial aspects of a way or relation. normally a

Re: [OSM-talk] xybot edit area size

2010-04-08 Thread Maarten Deen
On Thu, 08 Apr 2010 12:45:44 +0200, Frank Sautter openstreet...@sautter.com wrote: Valent Turkovic schrieb: But still ideal situation is that bots also use much smaller areas for edits so that you see if some bot has changed something in your area of interest, right? most bots (and also

Re: [OSM-talk] xybot edit area size

2010-04-08 Thread Frank Sautter
Gregory schrieb: Ban botsone!!! one of the keys on your keyboard seems to be stuck ;-) I don't really like how they run on the whole world, and not even on a country level. Why are they just editing one node here and there, it could make more programmic sense to download an

Re: [OSM-talk] xybot edit area size

2010-04-08 Thread Frank Sautter
Maarten Deen schrieb: Do correct me if I'm wrong, but don't the nodes have lat/lon with them and is the location therefore known? just have a look: http://www.openstreetmap.org/api/0.6/way/101/ frank ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org

Re: [OSM-talk] xybot edit area size

2010-04-08 Thread Maarten Deen
On Thu, 08 Apr 2010 13:24:50 +0200, Frank Sautter openstreet...@sautter.com wrote: Maarten Deen schrieb: Do correct me if I'm wrong, but don't the nodes have lat/lon with them and is the location therefore known? just have a look: http://www.openstreetmap.org/api/0.6/way/101/ Oh, right. They

Re: [OSM-talk] xybot edit area size

2010-04-08 Thread andrzej zaborowski
Hi, On 8 April 2010 12:45, Frank Sautter openstreet...@sautter.com wrote: normally a osm-xml file is piped through a bot (e.g. perl script). if it stumbles upon something fishy (e.g. a multiple consecutive nodes in a way) it will correct this problem on this entity. it does not know where in

Re: [OSM-talk] xybot edit area size

2010-04-08 Thread Frank Sautter
Maarten Deen schrieb: Oh, right. They are in the osm file but not in the element that is being processed at that time. It would make it a tad more complicated to get that data at that point. yep... But what would be against starting with a osm file with a smaller bbox as input? sources for

[OSM-talk] xybot edit area size

2010-04-07 Thread Valent Turkovic
Hi, I'm not sure if this list is appropriate for this discussion and please point me in the right direction if it is not. Is it possible to change xybot bot script not to use so large areas for edits? It would be ideal if it would use small areas of only few square km around each edit, idea

Re: [OSM-talk] xybot edit area size

2010-04-07 Thread Valent Turkovic
On Wed, 07 Apr 2010 07:45:58 +, Valent Turkovic wrote: It would be ideal if it would use small areas of only few square km around each edit, idea beeing so that xybot edits don't show in history tab when looking at some area that wasn't edited. Example of area size that xybot uses:

Re: [OSM-talk] xybot edit area size

2010-04-07 Thread jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com
On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 9:57 AM, Valent Turkovic valent.turko...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, 07 Apr 2010 07:45:58 +, Valent Turkovic wrote: It would be ideal if it would use small areas of only few square km around each edit, idea beeing so that xybot edits don't show in history tab when

Re: [OSM-talk] xybot edit area size

2010-04-07 Thread Frank Sautter
jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com schrieb: It would be ideal if it would use small areas of only few square km around each edit, idea beeing so that xybot edits don't show in history tab when looking at some area that wasn't edited. xybot and its siblings have implemented a bot=yes tag in each

Re: [OSM-talk] xybot edit area size

2010-04-07 Thread Valent Turkovic
On Wed, 07 Apr 2010 10:41:22 +0200, Frank Sautter wrote: maybe this service could also be implemented on the openstreetmap.org website, as the ito osmmapper is frequently offline (as it is at the moment) I agree we shouldn't depend on 3rd party service for such important feature like

Re: [OSM-talk] xybot edit area size

2010-04-07 Thread andrzej zaborowski
On 7 April 2010 21:50, Valent Turkovic valent.turko...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, 07 Apr 2010 10:41:22 +0200, Frank Sautter wrote: maybe this service could also be implemented on the openstreetmap.org website, as the ito osmmapper is frequently offline (as it is at the moment) I agree we