Brian Quinion wrote:
island=yes|no
I like the idea of marking this, but may I suggest traffic_island or
pedestrian_refuge instead? Does this mean any pedestrian refuge in the
road, or just those with some other crossing stuff like traffic signals
or zebra striping?
I'd love to be able to re-use
On Thu, 8 May 2008, Brian Quinion wrote:
I like this - but would suggest a small change:
highway=crossing
crossing=zebra|toucan|pelican|...
No, get rid of the UK specific classifications of crossing completely -
they require too much background knowledge to interpret and are pointless
if
I like this - but would suggest a small change:
highway=crossing
crossing=zebra|toucan|pelican|...
No, get rid of the UK specific classifications of crossing completely -
they require too much background knowledge to interpret and are pointless if
you have already split out the various
On Monday 12 May 2008, Andy Allan wrote:
Oh, I can think of a way. Yep, I can definitely think of some
shorthand tags for the most common crossing types. Trouble is, as
soon as I mention it, everyone starts uncontrollably ranting.
But that's the problem right? That no-one outside the UK
Andy Allan wrote:
Seems sensible to me to have a shorthand. So where you have a type of
crossing that's for cyclists and pedestrians but not horses nor
canoes, and it's controlled by traffic lights (as opposed to not being
controlled at all), we could do with a shorthand way to tag it because
On Mon, May 12, 2008 at 5:21 PM, Ben Laenen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Monday 12 May 2008, Andy Allan wrote:
Oh, I can think of a way. Yep, I can definitely think of some
shorthand tags for the most common crossing types. Trouble is, as
soon as I mention it, everyone starts
On Mon, May 12, 2008 at 6:03 PM, Alex Mauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Andy Allan wrote:
Seems sensible to me to have a shorthand. So where you have a type of
crossing that's for cyclists and pedestrians but not horses nor
canoes, and it's controlled by traffic lights (as opposed to not
Dave Stubbs wrote:
You just said that to the one guy who's actually writing rendering
rules which use this tag. Well done there.
Yeah, he's free to make use of his shortcuts on his own rendering
system. That doesn't make those shortcuts globally useful.
-Alex Mauer hawke
Brian Quinion wrote:
The only problems I can see is that because it
is centralised it is somewhat out of user control - so maybe it should
make sense to pull the list of presets from a wiki page (once a day?)
and there would be a small amount of server side load to implement it.
That would
Dave Stubbs wrote:
Some of us really couldn't care less either way. Frankly, please stop
talking about it -- you're not getting anywhere.
Actually, I think some fairly insightful suggestions have been made and
it is a useful discussion. You don't _have_ to read this thread if you
don't care
On Mon, May 12, 2008 at 7:25 PM, Brian Quinion
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I'll have a go at implementing a local macro system in JOSM and see
how well it works then it can be extended to pull from the server if
it seems worth having.
Well, JOSM already supports preset files which can be
On Mon, May 12, 2008 at 7:57 PM, Steve Hill [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Brian Quinion wrote:
The only problems I can see is that because it
is centralised it is somewhat out of user control - so maybe it should
make sense to pull the list of presets from a wiki page (once a day?)
and there
Steve Hill wrote:
It seems to me that instead of referring to a crossing by name, we should
just list its properties. e.g. something like:
highway=crossing
crossing=uncontrolled|traffic_signals
island=yes|no
bicycle=yes|no
foot=yes|no
horse=yes|no
+1. This is almost exactly what the
On Tue, May 6, 2008 at 6:54 PM, Alex Mauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I'm not interested in tagging animal crossings. Naturally I'm not going
to try to document the intricacies of british naming conventions for
their road crossings when: I will never have occasion to use them as I
don't
On Wed, 7 May 2008, Martijn van Oosterhout wrote:
Heh. While in london someone tried to explain to me what was so
special about all these crossing types. They have names for crossings
that here in NL would normal. A crossing with a separate light for
bikes, that's like every crossing in NL.
On Mon, May 5, 2008 at 9:08 PM, Andrew Chadwick (mailing lists)
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The Road crossings proposal[0], appears to be in limbo, and I'm
wondering if the correct procedure as described on
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Proposed_features has been
followed. It appears
Hi,
* Some people started tagging *and rendering* crossings, using a
particular tagging scheme.
* Some other people, who weren't actually out doing the work, started
complaining about what was going on [1]
May I take this as a cue to suggest a complete overhaul of the whole
RfC/vote/etc.
On Tue, 6 May 2008, Andy Allan wrote:
[2] Another brilliant example of how people make themselves feel
useful by doing the trivially easy bit, c.f. tracing from Yahoo with
no intention of naming the roads.
I'm just going to voice an opinion (feel free to ignore it :) - putting
roads on the
11:28
Para: Andy Allan
CC: osm Talk
Asunto: Re: [OSM-talk] [tagging] Road crossings proposal - status?
On Tue, 6 May 2008, Andy Allan wrote:
[2] Another brilliant example of how people make themselves feel
useful by doing the trivially easy bit, c.f. tracing from Yahoo with
no intention
On Tue, May 6, 2008 at 10:53 AM, Juan Lucas Dominguez Rubio
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I totally agree. A map is basically a drawing, so the most important thing
is the shape of the ways themselves. I would sooner say that the trivial
part is adding the place-names.
No. Quite simply No.
On Tue, May 6, 2008 at 9:23 AM, Andy Allan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
My advice would be to document the predominant use of the tag first,
Putting my wiki skills where my mouth is:
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Key:crossing - hopefully
useful to show what's in the db as we debate the
Andy Allan wrote:
* Some people started tagging *and rendering* crossings, using a
particular tagging scheme.
* Some other people, who weren't actually out doing the work, started
complaining about what was going on [1]
* This second group made an extremely detailed (or overcomplicated,
On Tue, May 6, 2008 at 4:54 PM, Alex Mauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hmm, I see it differently. As I recall:
*Some people said this is the way it will be. Since they have dev
access, they also added their method to the rendering system,
Let me be blunt: I don't have dev access, and I
Andy Allan wrote:
On Tue, May 6, 2008 at 4:54 PM, Alex Mauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hmm, I see it differently. As I recall:
*Some people said this is the way it will be. Since they have dev
access, they also added their method to the rendering system,
Let me be blunt: I don't have
On Tue, May 6, 2008 at 5:54 PM, Alex Mauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Andy Allan wrote:
Let me be blunt: I don't have dev access, and I don't have SVN access
either. So stop with the moaning, and get your facts straight.
I didn't say you personally did that. But if the group of people
On Tue, May 6, 2008 at 5:54 PM, Alex Mauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Andy Allan wrote:
On Tue, May 6, 2008 at 4:54 PM, Alex Mauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hmm, I see it differently. As I recall:
*Some people said this is the way it will be. Since they have dev
access, they also
Fair enough; I missed that because I didn't read below your signoff
(which happened to be at the break in my mailreader). So, OK, there's
another 60 beyond what I found in tagwatch. Who wants to bet they're
all in the UK, and those 60 were added since tagwatch was updated on 12
April?
Dave Stubbs wrote:
Some more stats for you on the end of the mail.
looking at your stats, I count the same 478 tags following Andy's
original mailing list post consisting exclusively of the animal-based
system. (+refuge, but that was apparently never used at all.)
And I count 157 following
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