Hi,
after all the discussion, the list has been created and I need
a break from discussions about new tags:)
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Outdoor sports, wilderness and natural features mapping. Everything from
scuba diving to paragliding, from undersea volcanoes to Mount Everest, related
software and talk.
Main
ricoz@gmail.com (Richard Z.), 2014.03.07 (Fri) 12:29 (CET):
after all the discussion, the list has been created and I need
a break from discussions about new tags:)
I kept lurking since you did such a good job. Thanks!
My interest is in mountaineering... read you soon.
Bye, Marcus
In the case of climatic zones and vegetation zones you could overlay / mash
the osm data with an external dataset. Nobody will draw a map of climatic
zones in a 1:500 scale, it doesn't make sense, but it is a scale where OSM
does operate.
cheers,
Martin
On Thu, Mar 06, 2014 at 10:54:35AM +0100, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote:
In the case of climatic zones and vegetation zones you could overlay / mash
the osm data with an external dataset. Nobody will draw a map of climatic
zones in a 1:500 scale, it doesn't make sense, but it is a scale where OSM
How is this different from other tagging discussions?
- Serge
On Wed, Mar 5, 2014 at 6:57 AM, Richard Z. ricoz@gmail.com wrote:
Hi,
I want to propose a new mailing list. Currently we have serious gaps in
modeling vegetation zones, climatic zones, geology, oceanography and most
other
On Wednesday 05 March 2014, Richard Z. wrote:
Hi,
I want to propose a new mailing list. Currently we have serious gaps
in modeling vegetation zones, climatic zones, geology, oceanography
and most other natural phenomena.
Without wanting to discourage this in general - these are important
Richard Z. wrote:
Hi,
I want to propose a new mailing list. Currently we have serious gaps in
modeling vegetation zones, climatic zones, geology, oceanography and most
other natural phenomena.
Also a mailing list for outdoor enthusiasts and outdoor sports does not
seem to exist.
The tagging
2014-03-05 13:30 GMT+01:00 Christoph Hormann chris_horm...@gmx.de:
..there are currently no thematic mapping related lists at all
so it seems somewhat odd to separate specifically these subjects.
There is one,
talk-transit.http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-transit
Janko
On Wed, Mar 05, 2014 at 12:44:39PM +, SomeoneElse wrote:
I want to propose a new mailing list. Currently we have serious gaps in
modeling vegetation zones, climatic zones, geology, oceanography and most
other natural phenomena.
Also a mailing list for outdoor enthusiasts and outdoor
IMO that should be amalgamated back into the general lists. Occasionally
tagging procedures get changed after brief discussions between very
small select groups metaphorically huddled together in the corner of a
room, that turn out to be non beneficial to OSM. It's a similar reason
why I
On 05/03/2014 13:42, Richard Z. wrote:
climatic zones
vegetation zones
soil biology
vegetation layers
Are any of these things verifiable? Are they relatively static or do
they change with the weather/season/year-to-year? The main OSM database
only stores relatively permanent features. That's
On Wed, Mar 5, 2014 at 2:52 PM, Dave F. dave...@madasafish.com wrote:
IMO that should be amalgamated back into the general lists. Occasionally
tagging procedures get changed after brief discussions between very small
select groups metaphorically huddled together in the corner of a room, that
2014-03-05 15:06 GMT+01:00 Pieren pier...@gmail.com:
The transit tagging schema is universally known as a success story ...
It will become a success when the first public transport router comes up.
Until then, there is basically no use for it.
Janko
2014-03-05 14:42 GMT+01:00 Richard Z. ricoz@gmail.com:
As an example, we are having repeated discussions how to tag forrest but
did not even start thinking about a generic concept how to map vegetation
such as:
climatic zones
vegetation zones
soil biology
vegetation layers
most of
On Wed, Mar 05, 2014 at 01:59:33PM +, Jonathan Bennett wrote:
On 05/03/2014 13:42, Richard Z. wrote:
climatic zones
vegetation zones
soil biology
vegetation layers
Are any of these things verifiable?
of course. Tons of literature about it.
Are they relatively static or do they
On Wed, Mar 05, 2014 at 01:52:50PM +, Dave F. wrote:
IMO that should be amalgamated back into the general lists.
Occasionally tagging procedures get changed after brief discussions
between very small select groups metaphorically huddled together in
the corner of a room, that turn out to be
On Wednesday 05 March 2014, Richard Z. wrote:
climatic zones
vegetation zones
soil biology
vegetation layers
Are any of these things verifiable?
of course. Tons of literature about it.
That is not what verifiability is about. Climate and Vegetation
characteristics are generally
2014-03-05 16:22 GMT+01:00 Richard Z. ricoz@gmail.com:
More often people change the wiki any way they like because they don't
find a suitable forum to ask. Even more often people just invent tags
without any documentation or discussion.
Yes, these edits happen, but I doubt it is
On Wed, Mar 05, 2014 at 04:59:17PM +0100, Christoph Hormann wrote:
On Wednesday 05 March 2014, Richard Z. wrote:
climatic zones
vegetation zones
soil biology
vegetation layers
Are any of these things verifiable?
of course. Tons of literature about it.
That is not what
On Wed, Mar 05, 2014 at 04:04:10PM +0100, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote:
2014-03-05 14:42 GMT+01:00 Richard Z. ricoz@gmail.com:
As an example, we are having repeated discussions how to tag forrest but
did not even start thinking about a generic concept how to map vegetation
such as:
On Wednesday 05 March 2014, Richard Z. wrote:
oh yes. You can say the same about a forrest and almost anything in
the real world.
No, continuously changing properties exist for many features including
for example the transit from wood to grassland but climate zones in
addition have the
On Wed, Mar 05, 2014 at 07:16:36AM -0500, Serge Wroclawski wrote:
How is this different from other tagging discussions?
tagging discussion is only the last step. Before it can happen we
need to have a pretty good model of what we want to map and then
decide how it could be mapped.
Most of us
On Wed, Mar 05, 2014 at 08:44:54PM +0100, Christoph Hormann wrote:
On Wednesday 05 March 2014, Richard Z. wrote:
oh yes. You can say the same about a forrest and almost anything in
the real world.
No, continuously changing properties exist for many features including
for example the
On 05/03/2014 20:30, Richard Z. wrote:
despite beeing sometimes tricky I still consider it pretty important to know
that a certain area is eg part of the tundra climate, permafrost or monsoon.
...and as I said, five messages ago:
The main OSM database only stores relatively permanent
Richard,
After reading your replies to the list about other topics, my view on
the situation has evolved. It seems that you want to add highly
specialized information into OSM, information which is well
documented, but not easy to collect for an amateur mapper (someone who
comes in off the
On Wed, Mar 05, 2014 at 08:41:06PM +, Jonathan Bennett wrote:
On 05/03/2014 20:30, Richard Z. wrote:
despite beeing sometimes tricky I still consider it pretty important to know
that a certain area is eg part of the tundra climate, permafrost or monsoon.
...and as I said, five messages
On Wed, Mar 05, 2014 at 04:38:40PM -0500, Serge Wroclawski wrote:
After reading your replies to the list about other topics, my view on
the situation has evolved. It seems that you want to add highly
specialized information into OSM, information which is well
documented, but not easy to
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