Re: [OSM-talk] Edit war on the wiki map features

2008-12-01 Thread Per
Now we can see a big discussion, but no one did anything constructive! One thing is clear, we need a tag to describe the usability of ways. If you don't like smoothness invent a better scheme! Smoothness is better than nothing. Please have a look at and comment on:

Re: [OSM-talk] Edit war on the wiki map features

2008-12-01 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Per-15 wrote: If you don't like smoothness invent a better scheme! Smoothness is better than nothing. That's debatable (as well as, er, very_horrible). Personally I believe the easiest and most flexible thing is just to extend the access tags: bicycle=no|yes|difficult|unsuitable so you'd

Re: [OSM-talk] Edit war on the wiki map features

2008-12-01 Thread Lester Caine
Richard Fairhurst wrote: Per-15 wrote: If you don't like smoothness invent a better scheme! Smoothness is better than nothing. That's debatable (as well as, er, very_horrible). Agreed It does not provide a platform to build on at all. Personally I believe the easiest and most flexible

Re: [OSM-talk] Edit war on the wiki map features

2008-12-01 Thread Bernhard Zwischenbrugger
Hi bicycle=no|yes|difficult|unsuitable so you'd get highway=bridleway foot=yes (permitted, no problem) bicycle:racer=unsuitable (permitted but not practical) bicycle:hybrid=difficult (permitted but challenging) bicycle:mtb=yes (permitted, no problem) In Vienna we have an event called

Re: [OSM-talk] Edit war on the wiki map features

2008-12-01 Thread Douglas Furlong
2008/12/1 Richard Fairhurst [EMAIL PROTECTED] Per-15 wrote: If you don't like smoothness invent a better scheme! Smoothness is better than nothing. That's debatable (as well as, er, very_horrible). Personally I believe the easiest and most flexible thing is just to extend the access

Re: [OSM-talk] Edit war on the wiki map features

2008-12-01 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Bernhard Zwischenbrugger wrote: In Vienna we have an event called Friday Night Skating. Every week about 1000 Inline Skater meet at 10pm and skate on normal roads. The police blocks all the roads an it is possible to skate on roads that are for normal for cars only. You can't design/evolve

Re: [OSM-talk] Postcode searches in Namefinder

2008-12-01 Thread Claudius Henrichs
David Earl: I've implemented some changes to the experimental UK postcode searches in the Namefinder. (...) 1. you can now search for UK postcode prefixes, e.g. CB21. These are just OSM nodes. Which OSM-tag are you querying there? postcode=x? Do you respect addr:postcode according to the

Re: [OSM-talk] Edit war on the wiki map features

2008-12-01 Thread Robert Vollmert
On Dec 1, 2008, at 11:02, Bernhard Zwischenbrugger wrote: In Vienna we have an event called Friday Night Skating. Every week about 1000 Inline Skater meet at 10pm and skate on normal roads. The police blocks all the roads an it is possible to skate on roads that are for normal for cars

Re: [OSM-talk] Edit war on the wiki map features

2008-12-01 Thread Douglas Furlong
2008/12/1 Bernhard Zwischenbrugger [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi bicycle=no|yes|difficult|unsuitable so you'd get highway=bridleway foot=yes (permitted, no problem) bicycle:racer=unsuitable (permitted but not practical) bicycle:hybrid=difficult (permitted but challenging) bicycle:mtb=yes

Re: [OSM-talk] Edit war on the wiki map features

2008-12-01 Thread Robert Vollmert
2008/12/1 Richard Fairhurst [EMAIL PROTECTED] Personally I believe the easiest and most flexible thing is just to extend the access tags: bicycle=no|yes|difficult|unsuitable so you'd get highway=bridleway foot=yes (permitted, no problem) bicycle:racer=unsuitable (permitted but not

Re: [OSM-talk] Edit war on the wiki map features

2008-12-01 Thread Robert Vollmert
On Dec 1, 2008, at 11:15, Douglas Furlong wrote: If this is an argument in favour of smoothness, then you would run in to exactly the same problem (just not as fine grained). If a user see's a road as being tagged as smooth, then they'd think that they could roller blade on it, which

Re: [OSM-talk] Edit war on the wiki map features

2008-12-01 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Robert Vollmert wrote: The obvious problem with this is the massive redundancy. You need to tag for every possible form of transport, or infer suitability for something exotic from the provided suitabilities. Yes, infer, like we do with every other tag. People realised they didn't need to tag

Re: [OSM-talk] Postcode searches in Namefinder

2008-12-01 Thread David Earl
On 01/12/2008 10:11, Claudius Henrichs wrote: David Earl: I've implemented some changes to the experimental UK postcode searches in the Namefinder. (...) 1. you can now search for UK postcode prefixes, e.g. CB21. These are just OSM nodes. Which OSM-tag are you querying there?

Re: [OSM-talk] Edit war on the wiki map features

2008-12-01 Thread Matt White
Richard Fairhurst wrote: Robert Vollmert wrote: I do wonder why people are always jumping on the corner cases to discredit smoothness=*. It's not about corner cases. It's about usability. Remembering what very_horrible means, or absolutely_smashing, or

Re: [OSM-talk] Edit war on the wiki map features

2008-12-01 Thread Douglas Furlong
2008/12/1 Matt White [EMAIL PROTECTED] Douglas Furlong wrote: 2008/12/1 Richard Fairhurst [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] bicycle=no|yes|difficult|unsuitable so you'd get highway=bridleway foot=yes (permitted, no problem)

Re: [OSM-talk] Edit war on the wiki map features

2008-12-01 Thread Douglas Furlong
2008/12/1 Matt White [EMAIL PROTECTED] Richard Fairhurst wrote: Robert Vollmert wrote: I do wonder why people are always jumping on the corner cases to discredit smoothness=*. It's not about corner cases. It's about usability. Remembering what very_horrible means, or

Re: [OSM-talk] Edit war on the wiki map features

2008-12-01 Thread Dave Stubbs
2008/12/1 Robert Vollmert [EMAIL PROTECTED]: 2008/12/1 Richard Fairhurst [EMAIL PROTECTED] Personally I believe the easiest and most flexible thing is just to extend the access tags: bicycle=no|yes|difficult|unsuitable so you'd get highway=bridleway foot=yes (permitted, no problem)

Re: [OSM-talk] Edit war on the wiki map features

2008-12-01 Thread Matt White
Douglas Furlong wrote: This makes is pretty straightforward to tag for all vehicle types easily - a tertiary road that has a fair few potholes could be smoothness=bumpy (given that car is the primary vehicle for the tertiary highway type) smoothness:mtb=bumpy

Re: [OSM-talk] Edit war on the wiki map features

2008-12-01 Thread Matt White
Douglas Furlong wrote: 2008/12/1 Matt White [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Richard Fairhurst wrote: Robert Vollmert wrote: I do wonder why people are always jumping on the corner cases to discredit smoothness=*. It's not about corner

Re: [OSM-talk] Edit war on the wiki map features

2008-12-01 Thread Douglas Furlong
2008/12/1 Robert Vollmert [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2008/12/1 Richard Fairhurst [EMAIL PROTECTED] Personally I believe the easiest and most flexible thing is just to extend the access tags: bicycle=no|yes|difficult|unsuitable so you'd get highway=bridleway foot=yes (permitted, no problem)

Re: [OSM-talk] Edit war on the wiki map features

2008-12-01 Thread Matt White
Douglas Furlong wrote: 2008/12/1 Matt White [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Douglas Furlong wrote: This makes is pretty straightforward to tag for all vehicle types easily - a tertiary road that has a fair few potholes could be

Re: [OSM-talk] Edit war on the wiki map features

2008-12-01 Thread Bernhard Zwischenbrugger
hi smoothness I found a wiki page - but it's in German: http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zustandserfassung_und_-bewertung They have a scale from 1 to 5 for zustandswert: 1.5 : maximum for new roads 3.5 : warning level 4.5 : /Schwellenwert - the road must be repaired /For measuring there is

[OSM-talk] aeroway_obstacle Feature Proposal - Voting - Proposed features/aeroway obstacle

2008-12-01 Thread andras . fabian
After an RFC time of 4 weeks, and no big objections - only some minor corrections - I would like to promote this feature request to the Voting. Voting starts today 2008-12-01 and will end on 2008-12-15. Here is the link to the proposal:

Re: [OSM-talk] Postcode searches in Namefinder

2008-12-01 Thread David Earl
One more thing: UK postcodes have spaces in them: searching for OX13ld won't work as it won't recognize it as a UK postcode. You need OX1 3LD. However that particular example doesn't work anyway because the address it tries to find is not helpful. It thinks the word Scientist is a street name

[OSM-talk] aeroway_obstacle Feature Proposal - Voting - Proposed features/aeroway obstacle

2008-12-01 Thread andras . fabian
Voting stopped by alpilotx ... Sorry guys. I have completely forgotten to check the Talk page. In the first days I didn't get responses and then I was believing, I would get automatic notification if I set the page on watch (which was obviously not the case). And I got only one response via the

[OSM-talk] Where have all the contributors gone?

2008-12-01 Thread Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists)
The latest charts are now online [1] and they show that the number of contributors has dropped in the last couple of months. The number of new users signing up each day hasn't changed much. Is it the northern hemisphere winter kicking in? Has the credit crunch or fuel prices made a difference?

Re: [OSM-talk] Postcode searches in Namefinder

2008-12-01 Thread David Earl
On 01/12/2008 12:40, Shaun McDonald wrote: Does the namefinder use any postcodes that have been added to node or ways in the osm data? No: see my earlier reply to someone else who asked exactly the same question. David ___ talk mailing list

Re: [OSM-talk] Postcode searches in Namefinder

2008-12-01 Thread Dave Stubbs
2008/12/1 David Earl [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On 01/12/2008 12:40, Shaun McDonald wrote: Does the namefinder use any postcodes that have been added to node or ways in the osm data? No: see my earlier reply to someone else who asked exactly the same question. I'm guessing what's confusing people

Re: [OSM-talk] Using OSM data with JAVA

2008-12-01 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, Jan Torben Heuer wrote: Hi, I hope this is the right place for my question. No, definitely not. There is a [EMAIL PROTECTED] list and a [EMAIL PROTECTED] list, both of which would be more suitable than [EMAIL PROTECTED] I want to use OSM data for a routing client. I therefore need the

Re: [OSM-talk] Where have all the contributors gone?

2008-12-01 Thread 80n
In my case I've run out of stuff to map. Can someone build some more roads please? ;) On Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 12:59 PM, Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The latest charts are now online [1] and they show that the number of contributors has dropped in the last couple

Re: [OSM-talk] Postcode searches in Namefinder

2008-12-01 Thread David Earl
On 01/12/2008 13:45, Dave Stubbs wrote: 2008/12/1 David Earl [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On 01/12/2008 12:40, Shaun McDonald wrote: Does the namefinder use any postcodes that have been added to node or ways in the osm data? No: see my earlier reply to someone else who asked exactly the same question.

Re: [OSM-talk] Where have all the contributors gone?

2008-12-01 Thread Donald Allwright
In my case I've run out of stuff to map. Can someone build some more roads please? ;) I think you'll find that if you start mapping footpaths, it'll at least partly solve the problem. Footpaths, by definition, cannot (legally) be cycled on so you have to do them on foot. Which means your

Re: [OSM-talk] Where have all the contributors gone?

2008-12-01 Thread Dave Stubbs
2008/12/1 80n [EMAIL PROTECTED]: In my case I've run out of stuff to map. Can someone build some more roads please? ;) There's the whole world of addresses open to you + you could always move house :-) ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org

Re: [OSM-talk] Where have all the contributors gone?

2008-12-01 Thread Chris Browet
2008/12/1 80n [EMAIL PROTECTED] In my case I've run out of stuff to map. Can someone build some more roads please? ;) Indeed, I think that the stat doesn't say much. In crowded areas like Germany or UK, there will be a time where there won't be anything left to map. The real interesting

Re: [OSM-talk] Where have all the contributors gone?

2008-12-01 Thread Ed Loach
Andy asked: If anyone out there who was contributing in the summer and has now stopped could share the reasons I might help shed some light. I've not stopped as such, but there are a number of factors that mean I can't contribute as much as I did initially. When I started mapping I went out

Re: [OSM-talk] Where have all the contributors gone?

2008-12-01 Thread Elena of Valhalla
On Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 1:59 PM, Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] If anyone out there who was contributing in the summer and has now stopped could share the reasons I might help shed some light. I have almost stopped mapping in the latest month or two for a couple

Re: [OSM-talk] Coordinate in wiki page

2008-12-01 Thread Andy Allan
I've no idea where that template comes from - is it a wikipedia thing? Very few wikipedia templates have been also copied onto the openstreetmap wiki. In answer to your second question, yep, most links are hardcoded simple urls, but you might want to consider either embedding a map (see

Re: [OSM-talk] XAPI relations query returns only nodes

2008-12-01 Thread David Carmean
The queries that failed were attempts to find all relations of any type, so .../api/0.5/relation[type=*][bbox=-124.0,36.75,-121.0,39.0] or .../api/0.5/relation[bbox=-124.0,36.75,-121.0,39.0] only returned nodes. On Sun, Nov 30, 2008 at 07:34:52PM +, 80n wrote: David I just tested it

Re: [OSM-talk] Where have all the contributors gone?

2008-12-01 Thread John McKerrell
On 1 Dec 2008, at 14:56, Elena of Valhalla wrote: On Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 1:59 PM, Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] If anyone out there who was contributing in the summer and has now stopped could share the reasons I might help shed some light. My mapping

Re: [OSM-talk] Where have all the contributors gone?

2008-12-01 Thread Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists)
Donald Allwright wrote: Sent: 01 December 2008 2:13 PM To: 80n; talk@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Where have all the contributors gone? In my case I've run out of stuff to map. Can someone build some more roads please? ;) I think you'll find that if you start mapping footpaths,

Re: [OSM-talk] Where have all the contributors gone?

2008-12-01 Thread Donald Allwright
At 9:00am on a Sunday morning, the meaning of no cycling on urban footpaths mysteriously disappears :-) Unfortunately the mud doesn't, which if Saturday is anything to go by would have been a bit too much for my non-mountain bike :-) The real challenge as has been pointed out is the white

Re: [OSM-talk] Where have all the contributors gone?

2008-12-01 Thread Igor Brejc
How about covering your area with land use data using yahoo/landsat? It's something I do occasionally at the end of the work day when I'm totally exhausted - it's a nice dumb work which helps my brain turn off. And it comes handy for various hiking maps (example of my area:

Re: [OSM-talk] Where have all the contributors gone?

2008-12-01 Thread graham
80n wrote: In my case I've run out of stuff to map. Can someone build some more roads please? ;) Surrey is finished??!! Congratulations, I missed that! I've just realised - I have a house to let in a beautiful largely unmapped part of Italy and was wondering where to find customers. Now I

Re: [OSM-talk] Where have all the contributors gone?

2008-12-01 Thread Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists)
Igor Brejc [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sent: 01 December 2008 3:57 PM To: Donald Allwright Cc: Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists); 80n; talk@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Where have all the contributors gone? How about covering your area with land use data using yahoo/landsat? It's

Re: [OSM-talk] Where have all the contributors gone?

2008-12-01 Thread Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists)
graham wrote: Sent: 01 December 2008 4:07 PM To: osm Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Where have all the contributors gone? I've just realised - I have a house to let in a beautiful largely unmapped part of Italy and was wondering where to find customers. Now I know ;-) What part? How Big? Is it

Re: [OSM-talk] Where have all the contributors gone?

2008-12-01 Thread Donald Allwright
It's very common in Bolivia at least that river have very different water levels, is there a tag for this? Usually you have a large riverbed and then a very small river running in the middle for most part of the year, and then sometimes it will flood all the way up to the riverbanks. I have

Re: [OSM-talk] Where have all the contributors gone?

2008-12-01 Thread Inge Wallin
On Monday 01 December 2008 13:59:32 Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists) wrote: The latest charts are now online [1] and they show that the number of contributors has dropped in the last couple of months. The number of new users signing up each day hasn't changed much. Is it the northern

Re: [OSM-talk] Where have all the contributors gone?

2008-12-01 Thread John07
Inge Wallin schrieb: On Monday 01 December 2008 13:59:32 Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists) wrote: The latest charts are now online [1] and they show that the number of contributors has dropped in the last couple of months. The number of new users signing up each day hasn't changed much.

Re: [OSM-talk] Where have all the contributors gone?

2008-12-01 Thread sylvain letuffe
On Monday 01 December 2008 15:00, 80n wrote: In my case I've run out of stuff to map. Can someone build some more roads please? ;) +1 And I don't care about street numbers -- Sylvain Letuffe [EMAIL PROTECTED] qui suis-je : http://slyserv.dyndns.org

Re: [OSM-talk] Edit war on the wiki map features

2008-12-01 Thread Gervase Markham
Frederik Ramm wrote: Gervase Markham wrote: Most of all since we're growing exponentially and even if we had 90% of mappers agree on something today, in two or three months those 90% would perhaps only form 30% of the community... This is actually an argument _for_ Map_Features and some

Re: [OSM-talk] Edit war on the wiki map features

2008-12-01 Thread Alex Mauer
Douglas Furlong wrote: My biggest issues is that smoothness varies depending on the vehicle in question, and as such it's just to vague to really be of use. No it doesn't. It's not like a paving machine runs just ahead of every off-road vehicle, making the road smoother for them. The

Re: [OSM-talk] Where have all the contributors gone?

2008-12-01 Thread 80n
On Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 4:07 PM, graham [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 80n wrote: In my case I've run out of stuff to map. Can someone build some more roads please? ;) Surrey is finished??!! Congratulations, I missed that! To clarify, my immediate area is complete in every direction as far as

Re: [OSM-talk] Where have all the contributors gone?

2008-12-01 Thread Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists)
80n wrote: Sent: 01 December 2008 5:38 PM To: graham Cc: osm Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Where have all the contributors gone? On Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 4:07 PM, graham [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 80n wrote: In my case I've run out of stuff to map. Can someone build some more

[OSM-talk] State of the Map 2009 - Update

2008-12-01 Thread Nick Black
Hello, Here's a quick update on the planning of the State of the Map 2009: Proposals: We've received 3 proposals to host the conference in 2009 from Gran Canaria, Amsterdam and Trento (Italy) Working Group: Following last week's board meeting we established a working group to deal with the

Re: [OSM-talk] Where have all the contributors gone?

2008-12-01 Thread Gour
Andy == Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists) [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi Andy, Andy If anyone out there who was contributing in the summer and has now Andy stopped could share the reasons I might help shed some light. I got my 1st GPS (76CSx) few days ago and do not own bike (yet), although

[OSM-talk] Reuse of Ordinance Survey maps

2008-12-01 Thread paul youlten
http://spatialnews.geocomm.com/dailynews/2008/nov/17/news4.html ;-) -- Tel: +44(0) 7814 517 807 ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

[OSM-talk] Reuse of Ordinance Survey maps

2008-12-01 Thread paul youlten
http://spatialnews.geocomm.com/dailynews/2008/nov/17/news4.html ;-) ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] Proposal for a map-bug tracker (Openstreetbugs)

2008-12-01 Thread Christoph Böhme
Hi! Tom Hughes [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: The problem with the notesapi branch is not that it's the same database but just that it takes the wrong approach to doing things within that database. For the record my preference would very much be for this to be a rails based system within the

Re: [OSM-talk] Proposal for a map-bug tracker (Openstreetbugs)

2008-12-01 Thread Christoph Böhme
Hi! Bernhard Zwischenbrugger [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: What about defining the API first? Yes, at least before starting some serious programming. My basic idea for the api was to allow to add, search/filter, and modify bug reports through a RESTful controller. The search/filter output should

Re: [OSM-talk] Proposal for a map-bug tracker (Openstreetbugs)

2008-12-01 Thread Christoph Böhme
Frederik Ramm [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: Christoph Böhme wrote: That sounds good. I will see at the weekend if it really is a piece of cake. Would it be possible to reuse and extend the client-side code from osb for a web-based client-side interface? Before you get all cranked up writing

Re: [OSM-talk] Proposal for a map-bug tracker (Openstreetbugs)

2008-12-01 Thread Christoph Böhme
Xav [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: Christoph Böhme a écrit : Would it be possible to reuse and extend the client-side code from osb for a web-based client-side interface? If it is a moral question : of course. If it is a technical question : 50% of the code has to be rewriten. Fine, it

Re: [OSM-talk] Proposal for a map-bug tracker (Openstreetbugs)

2008-12-01 Thread Christoph Böhme
Frederik Ramm [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: Christoph Böhme wrote: That sounds good. I will see at the weekend if it really is a piece of cake. Would it be possible to reuse and extend the client-side code from osb for a web-based client-side interface? Before you get all cranked up writing

Re: [OSM-talk] Where have all the contributors gone?

2008-12-01 Thread graham
Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists) wrote: graham wrote: Sent: 01 December 2008 4:07 PM To: osm Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Where have all the contributors gone? I've just realised - I have a house to let in a beautiful largely unmapped part of Italy and was wondering where to find customers. Now

Re: [OSM-talk] Where have all the contributors gone?

2008-12-01 Thread maning sambale
On Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 10:00 PM, 80n [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In my case I've run out of stuff to map. Can someone build some more roads please? ;) We need more volunteers in Metro manila ;) http://www.openstreetmap.org/index.html?lat=14.594717284692324lon=121.03235961646361zoom=11 You have

Re: [OSM-talk] Edit war on the wiki map features

2008-12-01 Thread Stephen Hope
Where you have the sign post for 4WD only, is that an access restriction or a suggestion? I.E. If you go on that road with a motorbike, or a 2wd vehicle, could you face prosecution? Or would you just be considered a bit foolish? It's a warning, not a restriction. I regularly take my 2WD

[OSM-talk] GIS bigwigs taking notice of openstreetmap

2008-12-01 Thread maning sambale
Just noticed this: http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/James%20Fee/diary/4223 James Fee of http://www.spatiallyadjusted.com, now contributing to Openstreetmap. The heavyweights of geoblogging are here! Welcome! Can't wait for Dr. Tomlinson, Goodchild and Burrough to chime in. ;) cheers, maning

Re: [OSM-talk] XAPI relations query returns only nodes

2008-12-01 Thread 80n
David Both these queries seem to work ok when I try them. The actual URLs I used were: wget http://osm.bearstech.com/osmxapi/api/0.5/relation[type=*][bbox=-124.0,36.75,-121.0,39.0]which returned a file of 107,839,289 bytes containing 485,694 nodes, 46,128 ways and 1,238 relations. And: wget

Re: [OSM-talk] Where have all the contributors gone?

2008-12-01 Thread Karl Eichwalder
Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists) [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: This really depends on where you live. If you live in a major city then you don't have much option but to map residential streets. Otherwise it's a special trip out to the countryside. Not something you can easily do in a lunch hour

Re: [Talk-it] da autocad a osm

2008-12-01 Thread Fabio D'Ovidio
Ciao, penso si possa fare così: 1. DXF2PostGIS (http://www.glasic.it/dxf2postgis.html - non credo esista una versione Linux però :-( ) 2. Il punto 1. puoi sostituirlo con la conversione DWG, DXF to SHP 3. Apri i tuoi dati PostGIS (o SHP) con QGIS 4. Esporti i tuoi dati in GPX

Re: [Talk-it] portici

2008-12-01 Thread Luca Delucchi
2008/12/1 Elena of Valhalla [EMAIL PROTECTED]: perche' layer = -1? di solito i portici sono a livello strada, quindi layer 0; al massimo e` il building ad essere a layer 1+ si scusa mi sono sbagliato -- Elena of Valhalla ciao Luca ___ Talk-it

Re: [Talk-it] Utilizzo dei dati OSM per fini operativi in ambito di gestione dei disastri e delle emergenze

2008-12-01 Thread Simone Gadenz
Concordo su questa vostra opinione. Le persone in ambito di disastro sanno come muoversi e sono abituati a lavorare in un clima di incertezza. I dati OSM sono per loro disponibili dal sito OSM e quindi sono in grado di recuperarli e usarli a loro discrezione. In questo contesto, un approccio

[Talk-it] Chi ha rubato le macchinette?

2008-12-01 Thread Carlo Stemberger
Stavo dando un'occhiata a http://tagwatch.stoecker.eu/Italy/En/tags.html e ho notato che sono spariti tutti i distributori di latte crudo. Fino a 2-3 settimane fa sono sicuro che ci fossero ancora. Non che fossero molti, tra l'altro non ho ancora avuto tempo di creare una paginetta sul wiki a

Re: [Talk-it] portici

2008-12-01 Thread Carlo Stemberger
Elena of Valhalla ha scritto: al massimo e` il building ad essere a layer 1+ Perché? Per me anche il building è a layer 0: di solito non viene indicato, quindi quello di default dovrebbe essere automaticamente 0. Quindi, per i portici: highway=pedestrian tunnel=yes Chi lo mette nel

Re: [Talk-it] portici

2008-12-01 Thread Elena of Valhalla
On Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 12:37 PM, Carlo Stemberger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Elena of Valhalla ha scritto: al massimo e` il building ad essere a layer 1+ Perché? Per me anche il building è a layer 0: di solito non viene indicato, quindi quello di default dovrebbe essere automaticamente 0. si`,

Re: [Talk-it] portici

2008-12-01 Thread Carlo Stemberger
Elena of Valhalla ha scritto: mi chiedo se sia il caso di descrivere l'edificio come sopra il livello della strada: in teoria e` sia al livello base (l'ingresso, di solito) che ai livelli superiori =-O Cioè? Vorresti indicare il numero dei piani di ogni edificio? O forse l'altezza in

Re: [Talk-it] portici

2008-12-01 Thread Elena of Valhalla
On Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 3:17 PM, Carlo Stemberger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Elena of Valhalla ha scritto: mi chiedo se sia il caso di descrivere l'edificio come sopra il livello della strada: in teoria e` sia al livello base (l'ingresso, di solito) che ai livelli superiori =-O Cioè? Vorresti

Re: [Talk-it] Chi ha rubato le macchinette?

2008-12-01 Thread Daniele Forsi
Il 1 dicembre 2008 12.10, Carlo Stemberger ha scritto: Stavo dando un'occhiata a http://tagwatch.stoecker.eu/Italy/En/tags.html Erano taggati amenity=milk_dispenser qui[1] ce ne sono 6 [1] http://tagwatch.stoecker.eu/Italy/En/keystats_amenity.html -- Daniele Forsi

Re: [Talk-it] portici

2008-12-01 Thread Maurizio Ferraris Dal Cioca
Scusate ... io sono l'ultimo arrivato e quindi il mio è solo un commento di nessun valore. So che non bisogna mappare per il renderer ... ma credo che così qualsiasi renderer visualizzerebbe il portico come un sottopassaggio pedonale ... cosa che non credo che sia bellissima ... Mau. Alberto

Re: [Talk-it] portici

2008-12-01 Thread Luciano Montanaro
Scusate, ma un portico non è attaccato a una strada? Io non penso che vada contrassegnato in modo particolare. È come un marciapiede coperto... E non mi pare che segnaliamo i marciapiedi in modo particolare. -- Luciano Montanaro Anyone who is capable of getting themselves made President

[Talk-it] R: Routing off-line

2008-12-01 Thread Fabrizio Carrai
Ciao Roberto, in effetti è il primo programma che avevo provato, ma non riesco a farlo funzionare. Unzippato il programma in un cartella, l'eseguibile parte, si vede una bella mappa, ma non riesco a trovare nessuna funzione per definire il percorso da fare (From, To, etc...). Qualcuno lo ha già

Re: [Talk-it] portici

2008-12-01 Thread Carlo Stemberger
Luciano Montanaro ha scritto: Scusate, ma un portico non è attaccato a una strada? Io non penso che vada contrassegnato in modo particolare. È come un marciapiede coperto... E non mi pare che segnaliamo i marciapiedi in modo particolare. Effettivamente non hai tutti i torti. Però i

Re: [Talk-it] portici

2008-12-01 Thread Elena of Valhalla
2008/12/1 Luciano Montanaro [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Scusate, ma un portico non è attaccato a una strada? Io non penso che vada contrassegnato in modo particolare. È come un marciapiede coperto... E non mi pare che segnaliamo i marciapiedi in modo particolare. un marciapiede non si segna, ma una

Re: [Talk-it] portici

2008-12-01 Thread Carlo Stemberger
Maurizio Ferraris Dal Cioca ha scritto: So che non bisogna mappare per il renderer ... ma credo che così qualsiasi renderer visualizzerebbe il portico come un sottopassaggio pedonale ... cosa che non credo che sia bellissima ... No: se il layer non è indicato (il che equivale a metterlo

[Talk-it] amenity=milk_dispenser [era: Chi ha rubato le macchinette?]

2008-12-01 Thread Carlo Stemberger
Daniele Forsi ha scritto: Il 1 dicembre 2008 12.10, Carlo Stemberger ha scritto: Stavo dando un'occhiata a http://tagwatch.stoecker.eu/Italy/En/tags.html Erano taggati amenity=milk_dispenser qui[1] ce ne sono 6 [1]

Re: [Talk-it] R: Routing off-line

2008-12-01 Thread Niccolo Rigacci
On Mon, Dec 01, 2008 at 07:02:42PM +0100, Fabrizio Carrai wrote: Ciao Roberto, in effetti è il primo programma che avevo provato, ma non riesco a farlo funzionare. Con la versione Linux e quella sul telefonino FreeRunner bisogna fare click destro sulla mappa - punto - Imposta come posizione.

Re: [Talk-it] Fwd: autorizzazione derivazione dati Friuli Venezia Giulia

2008-12-01 Thread Niccolo Rigacci
On Mon, Dec 01, 2008 at 01:38:24AM +0100, Simone Cortesi wrote: i dati originali si possono scaricare dal web. non è possibile metterli a disposizione altrove. l'accordo con la Regione non lo prevede. https://docs.google.com/View?docid=dgjsbdtx_99fbnn8ggg

Re: [Talk-it] Fwd: autorizzazione derivazione dati Friuli Venezia Giulia

2008-12-01 Thread Simone Cortesi
On Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 11:15 PM, Niccolo Rigacci [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Chi è autorizzato ad usare codesta cartografia per importarla in OSM? Tutta la comunita' OSM oppure solo Simone? chiunque carichi dati su OSM, non solo io. Qual'e' la cartografia CTRN oggetto della licenza? Quella che

Re: [Talk-it] Fwd: autorizzazione derivazione dati Friuli Venezia Giulia

2008-12-01 Thread Simone Piccardi
Simone Cortesi ha scritto: On Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 11:15 PM, Niccolo Rigacci [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Chi è autorizzato ad usare codesta cartografia per importarla in OSM? Tutta la comunita' OSM oppure solo Simone? chiunque carichi dati su OSM, non solo io. A me pare che il dubbio sul

Re: [Talk-it] Fwd: autorizzazione derivazione dati Friuli Venezia Giulia

2008-12-01 Thread Niccolo Rigacci
On Tue, Dec 02, 2008 at 12:58:11AM +0100, Simone Cortesi wrote: On Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 11:15 PM, Niccolo Rigacci [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Qual'e' la cartografia CTRN oggetto della licenza? Quella che ho scaricato ora dal web? Quella che potro' scaricare tra un anno? non so, ma a me

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] OSM Foundation / Domains / Trademark

2008-12-01 Thread Shaun McDonald
As I don't have an @osmfoundation.org address, I can't see november's draft minutes. Shaun On 1 Dec 2008, at 11:57, Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists) wrote: Jochen, We posted draft board meeting minutes to the OSMF website so you can get up to date on the workings behind the scenes. We

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] OSM Foundation / Domains / Trademark

2008-12-01 Thread Peter Miller
The August of September minutes have been published. Thank you. Fyi, the draft minutes of the latest meeting are behind password authentication. Can the requirement for authentication be removed to make it generally accessible? I don't know if I have a password as a foundation member, but I

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] OSM Foundation / Domains / Trademark

2008-12-01 Thread Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists)
Mike had put the link up before I'd published the doc. You should be able to reach it now. Let me know if not. http://docs.google.com/Doc?id=dcs6phhk_35dkhtq2dj Patience please on the other Jan Oct ones, they will be up later today. Cheers Andy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL

[OSM-talk-nl] bounderies

2008-12-01 Thread Lambert Carsten
Hoi, Ik kwam een raar verloop tegen van de gemeente grens in Amsterdam: http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=52.33308lon=4.92431zoom=16 Volgens de history in Potlach zijn die boundaries ruim een maand geleden opnieuw geïmporteerd uit AND. (Het betreft hier Way: #27963078.) Weet iemand mij te

Re: [OSM-talk-nl] End-of-year party

2008-12-01 Thread Floris Looijesteijn
Joepie! Ik ben even langs het door mij voorgestelde cafe gelopen (De Vergulde Gaper) en we kunnen daar gewoon een tafel reserveren. Zal ik dat even regelen? Het cafe is op 5 minuten lopen vanaf Amsterdam Centraal Station. De locatie op onze kaart klopt niet helemaal dus die heb ik aangepast...

Re: [OSM-talk-nl] bounderies

2008-12-01 Thread Eugene van der Pijll
Lambert Carsten schreef: Ik kwam een raar verloop tegen van de gemeente grens in Amsterdam: http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=52.33308lon=4.92431zoom=16 Wat is daar vreemd aan? groeten, Eugene ___ Talk-nl mailing list Talk-nl@openstreetmap.org

Re: [OSM-talk-nl] bounderies

2008-12-01 Thread Ldp
Eugene van der Pijll wrote: Lambert Carsten schreef: Ik kwam een raar verloop tegen van de gemeente grens in Amsterdam: http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=52.33308lon=4.92431zoom=16 Wat is daar vreemd aan? Juist. Wat is de definitie van raar? Heb je de grenzen in

Re: [OSM-talk-nl] Vier onwillige route relaties op openfietskaart, hulp gevraagd

2008-12-01 Thread Michiel Zandbelt
Freek wrote On 01-12-08 21:44: On Monday 01 December 2008, Michiel Zandbelt wrote: Nu zijn er inmiddels een viertal routes die hardnekkig weigeren gerenderd te worden en dus ook niet verschijnen op de kaarten. Ik heb ze bij herhaling nagekeken en opnieuw getagd, kan geen fout ontdekken,

Re: [OSM-talk-nl] Vier onwillige route relaties op openfietskaart, hulp gevraagd

2008-12-01 Thread Gert Gremmen
Verder moet je soms tot twee dagen na een update van de serverdata wachten tot de tiles 48h oud zijn. Hoe vaker je kijkt, lijkt het wel, hoe langer het duurt. Gert -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Namens Freek Verzonden: maandag 1 december 2008

Re: [OSM-talk-nl] Vier onwillige route relaties op openfietskaart, hulp gevraagd

2008-12-01 Thread Freek
On Monday 01 December 2008, Michiel Zandbelt wrote: Freek wrote On 01-12-08 21:44: On Monday 01 December 2008, Michiel Zandbelt wrote: Nu zijn er inmiddels een viertal routes die hardnekkig weigeren gerenderd te worden en dus ook niet verschijnen op de kaarten. Ik heb ze bij herhaling

Re: [OSM-talk-nl] Vier onwillige route relaties op openfietskaart, hulp gevraagd

2008-12-01 Thread Michiel Zandbelt
Freek wrote On 01-12-08 21:56: Ja, een beetje vreemd, ze lijken mij in ieder geval correct getagd. Inderdaad maar even afwachten. Ze zijn tot nu toe overigens altijd ook bij het opnieuw downlaoden van het betreffende gebeid van de OSM servers in Merkaartor weer keurig als relations in

  1   2   >