Re: [OSM-talk] Mapping party suggestion for SOTM

2009-07-09 Thread Peter Childs
2009/7/9 Cartinus carti...@xs4all.nl: On Thursday 09 July 2009 02:52:04 Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason wrote: Only to find to my disappointment that not only did the map of Amsterdam not have an area (or even a POI!) for the Red Light district Main Problem I can see with mapping Red Light Districts

Re: [OSM-talk] Mapping party suggestion for SOTM

2009-07-09 Thread ce-test, qualified testing bv - Gert Gremmen
Hi Aevar, Most coffeshops do offer more than just beverages. In general you are welcome to order: Uitsmijter : 2 bread , ham and 2-3 eggs Tostie: 2 bread ham and cheese , grilled together Broodje : white or brown bread with any sliced meat or cheese (10's of choices) Broodje gezond:

Re: [OSM-talk] A possible way to promote OSM

2009-07-09 Thread Peter Childs
2009/7/9 John Smith delta_foxt...@yahoo.com: Tracing rivers and such on OSM gave me an idea for a possible way to promote OSM, geography students. I mean what better way to teach kids about geography than doing a little cartography :) Back when I was at School, If I could have done a

[OSM-talk] New editor (was: Making an offline OpenStreetMap CD/DVD?)

2009-07-09 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, Inge Wallin wrote: Note also that the marble team is working on an OSM editing plugin that will allow the user to directly edit the OSM data. Do they have anything that we can look at, perhaps the spec they're working to or whatever? Don't get this wrong, I have a lot of respect for the

Re: [OSM-talk] Species names

2009-07-09 Thread Jacek Konieczny
On Wed, Jul 08, 2009 at 05:42:25PM +0100, Jack Stringer wrote: My rule of thumb would of be label it in english rather that local name. But that's because I am english. Using latin would put some people off from tagging Zoos. But precise latin specie name is a universal identifier (rather than

Re: [OSM-talk] Making an offline OpenStreetMap CD/DVD ?

2009-07-09 Thread Sebastian Kuerten
Hi, you could try using gosm (http://gosm.sf.net) you can mark an area and use the download-button in the 'Selection'-panel on the right. There you can select which zoom levels to download from this selection. When you configure nothing special, the tiles will be downloaded to /tmp/osm_mapnik or

Re: [OSM-talk] Species names

2009-07-09 Thread Marc Schütz
No real opinion on the question whether to use the scientific names or not, but if you do, please do _not_ use name:la for that purpose, because this would be how the ancient romans (or the speakers of Modern Latin) call the animals. Regards, Marc -- GRATIS für alle GMX-Mitglieder: Die

Re: [OSM-talk] Species names

2009-07-09 Thread John Smith
--- On Thu, 9/7/09, Marc Schütz schue...@gmx.net wrote: please do _not_ use name:la for that purpose, because this would be how the ancient romans (or the speakers of Modern Latin) call the animals. What about name:scientific or name:sci ?

Re: [OSM-talk] Species names

2009-07-09 Thread Frankie Roberto
Jacek Konieczny wrote: On Wed, Jul 08, 2009 at 05:42:25PM +0100, Jack Stringer wrote: My rule of thumb would of be label it in english rather that local name. But that's because I am english. Using latin would put some people off from tagging Zoos. But precise latin specie name is a

Re: [OSM-talk] Mapping party suggestion for SOTM

2009-07-09 Thread Tim Waters (chippy)
2009/7/9 Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason ava...@gmail.com: A few months ago in some local news media a talking head claimed that Amsterdam's Red Light District wasn't in central Amsterdam and moreover that it didn't contain any Coffee shops, i.e. ones of the type that'll sell you more than just

Re: [OSM-talk] Species names

2009-07-09 Thread Ed Avis
Marc Schütz schuetzm at gmx.net writes: No real opinion on the question whether to use the scientific names or not, but if you do, please do _not_ use name:la for that purpose, because this would be how the ancient romans (or the speakers of Modern Latin) call the animals. Agreed - and more to

Re: [OSM-talk] Species names

2009-07-09 Thread Ed Avis
Frankie Roberto frankie at frankieroberto.com writes: If we're tagging zoo enclosures, then the name= tag represents the name of the enclosure (in the local language), rather than the name of the animals within it.This is an important distinction, as zoo enclosures often have their own special

Re: [OSM-talk] Species names

2009-07-09 Thread Ed Avis
John Smith delta_foxtrot at yahoo.com writes: [species of animals] What about name:scientific or name:sci ? It's still not really the name of the object on the ground, which is called 'The Reptile House', or even the name of the animal, which is called 'Lizzy the Lizard' or similar. So I think

Re: [OSM-talk] Species names

2009-07-09 Thread Fabrizio Giudici
Jacek Konieczny wrote: On Wed, Jul 08, 2009 at 05:42:25PM +0100, Jack Stringer wrote: My rule of thumb would of be label it in english rather that local name. But that's because I am english. Using latin would put some people off from tagging Zoos. But

Re: [OSM-talk] A possible way to promote OSM

2009-07-09 Thread Mike N.
I was thinking this also - I was going to send an email to the local faculty who are responsible for the GIS curriculum at each local school, and also offer to speak or help get students started (first edit sessions can be frustrating). It's important to keep the mail as low key and let the

Re: [OSM-talk] A possible way to promote OSM

2009-07-09 Thread John Smith
--- On Thu, 9/7/09, Mike N. nice...@att.net wrote: I was thinking this also - I was going to send an email to the local faculty who are responsible for the GIS curriculum at each local school, and also offer to speak or help get students started (first edit sessions can be frustrating). 

Re: [OSM-talk] Species names

2009-07-09 Thread Claudius
Am 09.07.2009 12:16, Ed Avis: John Smithdelta_foxtrotat yahoo.com writes: [species of animals] What about name:scientific or name:sci ? It's still not really the name of the object on the ground, which is called 'The Reptile House', or even the name of the animal, which is called 'Lizzy

Re: [OSM-talk] Second Grand State Of the Map Poetry Competition!!

2009-07-09 Thread Steve Chilton
One in 3, 5, 3 metre: GPS Some software magic Mapnik maps Cheers STEVE -Original Message- From: talk-boun...@openstreetmap.org on behalf of Iván Sánchez Ortega Sent: Wed 01/07/2009 17:48 To: talk@openstreetmap.org Cc: Subject: Re:

Re: [OSM-talk] A possible way to promote OSM

2009-07-09 Thread John Smith
--- On Thu, 9/7/09, Jack Stringer jack.ix...@googlemail.com wrote: There are different target groups, primary school, secondary, college/uni so we need targeted plans for each. I was mostly thinking secondary, I didn't think primary would be that interested or able to produce useful data,

Re: [OSM-talk] Species names

2009-07-09 Thread Ed Avis
Fabrizio Giudici fabrizio.giudici at tidalwave.it writes: Thus, a good way to represent a species name would be a triple: taxonomy name, taxonomy year, binomial name. Eg. Clements, 2008, Larus canus species:Clements:2008=Larus canus That also allows for other taxonomies to be added at the

Re: [OSM-talk] A possible way to promote OSM

2009-07-09 Thread Jack Stringer
For the UK its GCSE and A-Level Geography students are the ones to look at I guess. Though I know we might not be able to use information from 11yr old kids it still does not mean we can not help provide education information to them. I know its not what OSM is about but educating the youth in

Re: [OSM-talk] Species names

2009-07-09 Thread Someoneelse
Jack Stringer wrote: My rule of thumb would of be label it in english rather that local name. But that's because I am english. Using latin would put some people off from tagging Zoos. We'd better think of another name for zoo then (and presumably catching the bus to get there is right out)?

Re: [OSM-talk] Species names

2009-07-09 Thread Jacek Konieczny
On Thu, Jul 09, 2009 at 09:27:29AM +, John Smith wrote: --- On Thu, 9/7/09, Marc Schütz schue...@gmx.net wrote: please do _not_ use name:la for that purpose, because this would be how the ancient romans (or the speakers of Modern Latin) call the animals. What about

Re: [OSM-talk] Species names

2009-07-09 Thread Jacek Konieczny
On Thu, Jul 09, 2009 at 11:03:05AM +, Ed Avis wrote: species:Clements:2008=Larus canus That also allows for other taxonomies to be added at the same time, and for more general 'species:Clements' and just plain 'species' in cases where the taxonomy is well-established, or the person

Re: [OSM-talk] Species names

2009-07-09 Thread Jack Stringer
2009/7/9 Someoneelse li...@mail.atownsend.org.uk: Jack Stringer wrote: My rule of thumb would of be label it in english rather that local name. But that's because I am english. Using latin would put some people off from tagging Zoos. We'd better think of another name for zoo then (and

Re: [OSM-talk] Species names

2009-07-09 Thread Fabrizio Giudici
Ed Avis wrote: Fabrizio Giudici fabrizio.giudici at tidalwave.it writes: Thus, a good way to represent a species name would be a triple: taxonomy name, taxonomy year, binomial name. Eg. Clements, 2008, Larus canus species:Clements:2008=Larus canus That also allows for other

Re: [OSM-talk] Species names

2009-07-09 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2009/7/9 Jacek Konieczny jaj...@jajcus.net: On Thu, Jul 09, 2009 at 09:27:29AM +, John Smith wrote: --- On Thu, 9/7/09, Marc Schütz schue...@gmx.net wrote: please do _not_ use name:la for that purpose, because this would be how the ancient romans (or the speakers of Modern Latin)

Re: [OSM-talk] A possible way to promote OSM

2009-07-09 Thread Hillsman, Edward
2009/7/9 John Smith delta_foxt...@yahoo.com: Tracing rivers and such on OSM gave me an idea for a possible way to promote OSM, geography students. I mean what better way to teach kids about geography than doing a little cartography :) By coincidence, I gave a short invited

Re: [OSM-talk] Species names

2009-07-09 Thread Ed Loach
Jack wrote: Longleat Zoo has areas that you can drive though that contain several different animals. Zebra, Giraffe etc. How would you label that? Firstly as Safari Park rather than Zoo. But looking here: http://www.longleat.co.uk/safari-park/safari-journey.html for the area you mention:

[OSM-talk] Relation analyser

2009-07-09 Thread Stéphane Brunner
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello ! Sometimes I use the relation analyser : http://betaplace.emaitie.de/webapps.relation-analyzer/index.jsp But I fond two thinks wrong: - - When I click on « JOSM RemoteControl » link it will open a new tab with OK ! On keepright.ipax.at It

[OSM-talk] Collected Way support

2009-07-09 Thread David Groom
For various reasons, for example the need to put different max_speed tags on different parts of a way, the need to split ways so individual parts can become part of a relation, etc, even simple linear ways are becoming very fragmented. I was just wondering what the current state of client

Re: [OSM-talk] Collected Way support

2009-07-09 Thread Richard Mann
It looks too complicated to me. Given that certain tags apply to ways but not nodes, would it not be possible to imply some meaning by attaching bridge=yes+layer=1 to a node on a way, to mean the segment between this node and the next? Then the way wouldn't need to be chopped up in the first

Re: [OSM-talk] Collected Way support

2009-07-09 Thread Mike N.
Curved bridges will require more than one segment to mark the bridge way. Re: Collected Ways - For a simple way bridge case, I leave the bridge named either the same as the way or for the case of a named bridge, have the way as name_1. The name collector *might* be able to follow the way by

Re: [OSM-talk] Collected Way support

2009-07-09 Thread David Groom
- Original Message - From: Richard Mann richard.mann.westoxf...@googlemail.com To: Talk Openstreetmap talk@openstreetmap.org Sent: Thursday, July 09, 2009 3:51 PM Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Collected Way support It looks too complicated to me. Given that certain tags apply to ways but

[OSM-talk] SOTM Friday Night latest arrangements

2009-07-09 Thread Nick Whitelegg
Hello everyone, Is the plan for tomorrow (Friday) still to meet here? http://www.stateofthemap.org/2009/07/06/pre-conference-drinks-nieuwmarkt/ Will be unable to read the list from approx 07:30 BST tomorrow. Can get the internet on my phone but obviously in NL it's going to be rather

Re: [OSM-talk] Collected Way support

2009-07-09 Thread Richard Mann
I agree that it's a real issue. It's a pain assigning all the short ways to a relation (which is what I've been doing this afternoon), or adding information along a route (ie the number of tracks on a railway). However, when I read the proposal, I could see that trying to use relations would

Re: [OSM-talk] SOTM Friday Night latest arrangements

2009-07-09 Thread Rob
i hope it's stll accessible (see news item today) maybe we must tag it as ruin.. http://translate.google.com/translate?prev=hphl=nljs=yu=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.nu.nl%2Falgemeen%2F2038502%2Ftoren-amsterdamse-waag-dreigt-in-te-storten.htmlsl=nltl=enhistory_state0= 2009/7/9 Nick Whitelegg

Re: [OSM-talk] New editor (was: Making an offline OpenStreetMap CD/DVD?)

2009-07-09 Thread Inge Wallin
On Thursday 09 July 2009 09:19:16 Frederik Ramm wrote: Hi, Inge Wallin wrote: Note also that the marble team is working on an OSM editing plugin that will allow the user to directly edit the OSM data. Do they have anything that we can look at, perhaps the spec they're working to or

[OSM-talk] undelete

2009-07-09 Thread Lambert Carsten
Hi, By coincidence I discovered a recently and unjustly deleted node: http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/node/242086945 Part of the changeset concerning the node: delete node id=242086945 lat=52.360876 lon=4.9064347 changeset=1720154 user=mvexel uid=8909 visible=false

[OSM-talk] Account creation on impossible ?

2009-07-09 Thread Yann Coupin
Hi, I need to create an account on the dev api to test a new version of the bulk_uploader (for the corine import). But it seems outgoing email is not working. That means account creation is impossible because the confirmation is never received (I don't see connections on my mail server so

Re: [OSM-talk] undelete

2009-07-09 Thread Lambert Carsten
On Thursday 09 July 2009 18:46:03 Lambert Carsten wrote: Hi, By coincidence I discovered a recently and unjustly deleted node: http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/node/242086945 Part of the changeset concerning the node: delete node id=242086945 lat=52.360876 lon=4.9064347

Re: [OSM-talk] Account creation on impossible ?

2009-07-09 Thread Yann Coupin
You can ignore this. My mail client was acting on me. I missed some other mails and I obviously didn't read my mail server logs correctly on top of that! Yann Le 9 juil. 09 à 19:05, Yann Coupin a écrit : Hi, I need to create an account on the dev api to test a new version of the

Re: [OSM-talk] A possible way to promote OSM

2009-07-09 Thread John Smith
--- On Thu, 9/7/09, Peter Childs pchi...@bcs.org wrote: Back when I was at School, If I could have done a GCSE or A-Level in Cartography I would have done. Its a much under taught subject. It either needs to be taught as a Subject in its own right or as Part of Technical Drawing, Its

Re: [OSM-talk] A possible way to promote OSM

2009-07-09 Thread John Smith
--- On Thu, 9/7/09, Jack Stringer jack.ix...@googlemail.com wrote: Though I know we might not be able to use information from 11yr old kids it still does not mean we can not help provide education This would fall into the category of PR more than anything I assume, does anything like this

[OSM-talk] Error loading data with osm2pgsql

2009-07-09 Thread trossachs
Hi, I've had the same type of error on the two occassions I've tried to load an osm file. The error is: Error allocating nodes. Error occurred, cleaning up. There is no data at all, loaded into the database. Does anyone know the cause of these errors and how to fix them? Thanks, John --

Re: [OSM-talk] Error loading data with osm2pgsql

2009-07-09 Thread Jon Burgess
On Thu, 2009-07-09 at 14:49 -0700, trossachs wrote: Hi, I've had the same type of error on the two occassions I've tried to load an osm file. The error is: Error allocating nodes. Error occurred, cleaning up. There is no data at all, loaded into the database. Does anyone know the

[OSM-talk] OSM TrustPoints

2009-07-09 Thread Stefan Baebler
I've put some thoughts towards preventing vandalism and spam and how that could be automated without getting in a way of normal, legitimate users. Draft is available at http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User:Stefanb/TrustPoints It's also included below for your convenience. Feedback,

[OSM-talk] Converting polygon to OSM way?

2009-07-09 Thread simon
I am playing with rendering paper maps, in the process I limit the data to a particular area using osmosis with a --bounding-polygon using this type of polygon: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Osmosis/Polygon_Filter_File_Format Is there a way to convert the same polygon in to an OSM way so

Re: [OSM-talk] Converting polygon to OSM way?

2009-07-09 Thread Russ Nelson
It's very straightforward. Just needs a program to take the one file format and turn it into a different file format. Just create a bunch of new nodes, connect them together with a way, then add the appropriate metadata for your renderer. Number the nodes and ways with negative numbers.

Re: [Talk-it] Geodati Alto Adige/Südtirol

2009-07-09 Thread ale_z...@libero.it
No, deve dividere il tempo tra quelli ed il Red District:-)) Alessandro Ale_Zena_IT Messaggio originale Da: dieterdre...@gmail.com Data: 09/07/2009 0.04 A: openstreetmap list - italianotalk-it@openstreetmap.org Ogg: Re: [Talk-it] Geodati Alto Adige/Südtirol 2009/7/8 Simone

Re: [Talk-it] Un saluto alla Mailing List

2009-07-09 Thread Luca Delucchi
Il giorno 08 Luglio 2009 22.07, Carlo Ferraricarlo_ferra...@tiscali.it ha scritto: Un saluto a tutta la mailing list. Mi presento: mi chiamo Carlo Ferrari e da marzo 2009 sto mappando la zona est di Parma e diversi paesi della provincia. ma non avevi già scritto? Ho provato diversi

Re: [Talk-it] Dolomity mapping party

2009-07-09 Thread Luca Delucchi
Il giorno 08 Luglio 2009 19.52, Stefano Pedrettistefano.pedre...@gmail.com ha scritto: Bellissima iniziativa! io sono della valle accanto (valcamonica) e ho cominciato il lungo lavoro di mappatura sentieri e escursioni, http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=46.0832lon=10.3702zoom=12layers=0B00FTF

Re: [Talk-it] Dolomity mapping party

2009-07-09 Thread Luca Delucchi
Ci sono un po' di novità sui rifugi [1], altri devono ancora rispondere ma in questo momento io sarei propenso al rifugio agostini che è quello che costa meno, da buon genovese... (perchè ci ha fatto lo sconto cosa che gli altri non hanno fatto) ciao Luca [1]

Re: [Talk-it] Colori piste ciclabili Cycle Map

2009-07-09 Thread Marco Certelli
--- Gio 9/7/09, giar...@blu.it giar...@blu.it ha scritto: Da: giar...@blu.it giar...@blu.it Oggetto: Re: [Talk-it] Colori piste ciclabili Cycle Map A: talk-it@openstreetmap.org Data: Giovedì 9 luglio 2009, 00:04 Ciao giardia avrai notato che la cycleway che risulta blu ha un tag

Re: [Talk-it] Colori piste ciclabili Cycle Map

2009-07-09 Thread Federico Cozzi
2009/7/9 Marco Certelli marco_certe...@yahoo.it: Comunque queste sono le ciclabili di Roma. Hanno un numero... Magari significa qualcosa per il mapping OSM (ref=nn? boh.) http://img143.imageshack.us/img143/2235/mappapisteciclabilimc1.jpg Qui trovi alcune informazioni:

Re: [Talk-it] Problema confini nazionali

2009-07-09 Thread defaste
Ho inserito in OSM una prima correzione del confine in comune di Prepotto, fino a Podresca. Adesso sto andando avanti fino al confine con il comune di Stregna. Lì c'è una strada piena di errori (almeno a quanto mi dice validator) che dovrò corregere (ci metterò un po') ma con un po' di pazienza

Re: [Talk-it] Problema confini nazionali

2009-07-09 Thread Stefano Salvador
Volevo segnalare a Stefano Salvador che non ho combinato niente (causa casini con python) con gli shape. Pertanto la line di confine l'ho ottenuta usando piclayer + pdf della CTR. Non è che riesci ad inviarmi lo shape dei confini regionali già tradotti in formato OSM (poi editare quello è già

Re: [Talk-it] Un saluto alla Mailing List

2009-07-09 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2009/7/9 Luca Delucchi lucadel...@gmail.com: non usare highway=cycleway, almeno non siano realmente piste ciclabile si, pero aggiungete bicycle=yes se si può prendere in bici (per esempio al highway=footway, pedestrian, ecc.). In Italia secondo le mie esperienze (al centro) si può andare ovunque

Re: [Talk-it] Un saluto alla Mailing List

2009-07-09 Thread Luca Delucchi
Il giorno 09 Luglio 2009 13.16, Martin Koppenhoeferdieterdre...@gmail.com ha scritto: 2009/7/9 Luca Delucchi lucadel...@gmail.com: non usare highway=cycleway, almeno non siano realmente piste ciclabile si, pero aggiungete bicycle=yes se si può prendere in bici (per esempio al highway=footway,

Re: [Talk-it] Colori piste ciclabili Cycle Map

2009-07-09 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2009/7/9 Marco Certelli marco_certe...@yahoo.it: Non sapevo di questa differenza di tag. L'ho scoperto adesso. Comunque, a Roma, non è meglio taggarle tutte come cycleway paved? La ciclabile lunga taggata lcn=yes (Labaro- Ostia) non, per forza no allo paved=yes. Tante piste a Roma sono a

Re: [Talk-it] Colori piste ciclabili Cycle Map

2009-07-09 Thread Marco Certelli
Comunque queste sono le ciclabili di Roma. Hanno un numero... Magari significa qualcosa per il mapping OSM (ref=nn? boh.) non lo so. Questo numero sembra di riferirsi solo alla mappa (legenda), non penso che sia un numero al livello nazionale/regionale considerando tutte le piste. Vedi

Re: [Talk-it] Colori piste ciclabili Cycle Map

2009-07-09 Thread giar...@blu.it
guarda questa (che passa sotto le case...) http://www.openstreetmap.org/? lat=41.90862lon=12.46818zoom=17layers=B000FTF Finalmente qualcuno se ne è accorto! L'ho inserito io quel tratto di pista ciclabile :D. è stato il mio primo inserimento con JOSM. Ho caricato la traccia gpx e l'ho

Re: [Talk-it] Colori piste ciclabili Cycle Map

2009-07-09 Thread Marco Certelli
--- Gio 9/7/09, giar...@blu.it giar...@blu.it ha scritto: Da: giar...@blu.it giar...@blu.it Oggetto: Re: [Talk-it] Colori piste ciclabili Cycle Map A: talk-it@openstreetmap.org Data: Giovedì 9 luglio 2009, 14:13 guarda questa (che passa sotto le case...) http://www.openstreetmap.org/?

Re: [Talk-it] Problema confini nazionali

2009-07-09 Thread Stefano de Fabris
Stamattina ho quasi terminato il lavoro (soprattutto la sistemazione della strada di Podresca con relativi errori), lo uploaderò tra qualche ora. Mettimi in lista non appena hai fatto la conversione dei dati CTR - OSM: per il lavoro di copia-incolla com JOSM posso dare una mano ben volentieri.

Re: [Talk-it] Colori piste ciclabili Cycle Map

2009-07-09 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2009/7/9 Marco Certelli marco_certe...@yahoo.it: Ho dato una occhiata: le strade in zona sembrano OK (anche guardando altre tracce GPS, oltre che guardando yahoo...). E quindi direi che la tua traccia GPS era molto disturbata. Ritraccia la ciclabile tenendo conto delle strade (a dx, a sx,

[Talk-it] type = restriction?

2009-07-09 Thread iiizio iiizio
Volendo caricare una restrizione di svolta sono andato a vedere sul wiki come si fa ma mi è rimasto il dubbio sull'uso del tag type = restriction: va inserito o il tag restriction = no_left_turn lo rende implicito? Nel wiki compare solo nella pagina inglese [1] e spagnola ed è assente in quella

Re: [Talk-at] Wiener Stammtisch/Workshop

2009-07-09 Thread Andreas M.
Hallo, Ingo Lantschner wrote: Am 08.07.2009 um 21:33 schrieb Florian Schweikert: Was wäre mit dem 24ten Juli? für mich mir aus heutiger Sicht ein günstiger Tag Ist mir auch recht. Freitag = Werktag = gemütlicher Heurigen-Workshop am Nachmittag/Abend? Ich hätte wegen Urlaubs auch

Re: [Talk-at] Wiener Stammtisch/Workshop

2009-07-09 Thread Norbert Wenzel
Original-Nachricht Von: Andreas M. am.osm.l...@chello.at Betreff: Re: [Talk-at] Wiener Stammtisch/Workshop Hallo, Ingo Lantschner wrote: Am 08.07.2009 um 21:33 schrieb Florian Schweikert: Was wäre mit dem 24ten Juli? für mich mir aus heutiger Sicht ein günstiger

Re: [Talk-at] Wiener Stammtisch/Workshop

2009-07-09 Thread Ingo Lantschner
Am 09.07.2009 um 15:31 schrieb Andreas M.: Ich hätte wegen Urlaubs auch ganztägig Zeit, aber das schränkt vermutlich die Teilnehmerzahl zu sehr ein. bei mir ist Vormittag z.B. noch unsicher bzw. hängt das davon ab, ob ich die Kinder mitnehmen kann und will. -- Ingo Lantschner 1060

Re: [Talk-transit] Railway route relations

2009-07-09 Thread Frankie Roberto
On Thu, Jul 9, 2009 at 10:47 AM, Peter Miller peter.mil...@itoworld.comwrote: I am happy to change the settings for this list, but then it will be different from most other lists. Lets have a poll and follow the majority. I will stay neutral! For some reason I had it in my head that the

[OSM-talk-nl] IJtunnel

2009-07-09 Thread Lambert Carsten
Hoi, De IJtunnel is momenteel dicht. Omdat het toch een zeer belangrijke verbindings ader is en er inmiddels al diverse routeplanners zijn die gebruik maken van OSM heb ik er een tijdelijke access=no aan toegevoegd. Misschien heb ik het (grotendeels) goed gedaan, maar het is erg ingewikkeld.

Re: [OSM-talk-nl] IJtunnel

2009-07-09 Thread Lambert Carsten
On Thursday 09 July 2009 11:55:07 Lambert Carsten wrote: Hoi, De IJtunnel is momenteel dicht. Omdat het toch een zeer belangrijke verbindings ader is en er inmiddels al diverse routeplanners zijn die gebruik maken van OSM heb ik er een tijdelijke access=no aan toegevoegd. Misschien heb ik

Re: [OSM-talk-nl] IJtunnel

2009-07-09 Thread Philip Homburg
De IJtunnel is momenteel dicht. Omdat het toch een zeer belangrijke verbindings ader is en er inmiddels al diverse routeplanners zijn die gebruik maken van OSM heb ik er een tijdelijke access=no aan toegevoegd. Misschien is het handig om in zo'n geval een klein stukje weg toe te voegen met de

Re: [OSM-talk-nl] IJtunnel

2009-07-09 Thread Milo van der Linden
Ik was al bang dat alleen aanhangers van een zekere eindhovense voetbalclub door de IJ tunnel mochten ;-) Philip Homburg wrote: Er is een 'psv=yes' tag (Access permission for Public Service Vehicles (UK), e.g. buses and coaches) ___ Talk-nl

Re: [talk-au] A possible way to promote OSM

2009-07-09 Thread b . schulz . 10
I'm starting as a maths teacher next year and will certainly be mentioning it to the geography teachers in passing ;). The hard bit will be relating it to the syllabus so it's not a waste of time. Obviously it would be an excellent exercise for geography students to do, but unless the syllabus

Re: [talk-au] A possible way to promote OSM

2009-07-09 Thread John Smith
--- On Thu, 9/7/09, b.schulz...@scu.edu.au b.schulz...@scu.edu.au wrote: I'm starting as a maths teacher next year and will certainly be mentioning it to the geography teachers in passing ;). The hard bit will be relating it to the syllabus so it's not a waste of time. Obviously it would

Re: [talk-au] A possible way to promote OSM

2009-07-09 Thread Liz
On Thu, 9 Jul 2009, John Smith wrote: I was thinking about refining rivers and marking out local area stuff that normally doesn't appear on most maps, there virtually would be a lot of stuff that could be done in this area. Then you come to your suggestion, technical drawing, and I was

Re: [talk-au] A possible way to promote OSM

2009-07-09 Thread Sam Couter
b.schulz...@scu.edu.au b.schulz...@scu.edu.au wrote: If anybody's got ideas on how to incorporate it into a maths lesson I'm all ears too. My high school maths touched on surveying, which is all geometry and trigonometry. Map your school, the nearby playing field or shops or whatever and

Re: [talk-au] A possible way to promote OSM

2009-07-09 Thread Sam Couter
Liz ed...@billiau.net wrote: Your problem John, is that you are confusing educating people with providing them with a School Certificate or whatever I have never let my schooling interfere with my education. -- Mark Twain -- Sam Couter | mailto:s...@couter.id.au OpenPGP

Re: [talk-au] OSM data

2009-07-09 Thread b . schulz . 10
Has the OSM data really been growing fast enough that the zipped files have increased by more than 10% in 9 days? Or is there another reason for the increase in file size? Brent - Original Message - From: John Smith delta_foxt...@yahoo.com Date: Thursday, July 9, 2009 9:33 pm Subject:

Re: [talk-au] [OSM-talk] A possible way to promote OSM

2009-07-09 Thread John Smith
--- On Thu, 9/7/09, Jack Stringer jack.ix...@googlemail.com wrote: Though I know we might not be able to use information from 11yr old kids it still does not mean we can not help provide education This would fall into the category of PR more than anything I assume, does anything like this

Re: [talk-au] OSM data

2009-07-09 Thread John Smith
--- On Thu, 9/7/09, b.schulz...@scu.edu.au b.schulz...@scu.edu.au wrote: Has the OSM data really been growing fast enough that the zipped files have increased by more than 10% in 9 days? Or is there another reason for the increase in file size? Most of the gains seem to be in NZ. Take the

[Talk-de] Copyright von alten Landkarten

2009-07-09 Thread Ropino
Hallo, ich habe schon eine ganze Weile im Netz gesucht, bin mir aber letztlich nicht sicher. Wie steht es um die Nutzbarkeit von alten (staatlichen/amtlichen) Landkarten. Eine konkrete Person ist bei diesen Karten im Regelfall nicht vorhanden, somit greift 70 Jahre nach dem Tod des Urhebers

Re: [Talk-de] Hall of Fame - Strassen komplett erfasst! - H öhe

2009-07-09 Thread Andreas Labres
Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: Am 9. Juli 2009 00:45 schrieb Markus liste12a4...@gmx.de: Dazu gibts schon umfangreiche Infos: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/de:Altitude http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/de:Water_Depth und auf Englisch das hier:

Re: [Talk-de] Copyright von alten Landkarten

2009-07-09 Thread Bernd Wurst
Hallo. Am Donnerstag, 9. Juli 2009 schrieb Ropino: ich habe schon eine ganze Weile im Netz gesucht, bin mir aber letztlich nicht sicher. Wie steht es um die Nutzbarkeit von alten (staatlichen/amtlichen) Landkarten. Eine konkrete Person ist bei diesen Karten im Regelfall nicht vorhanden,

Re: [Talk-de] verwirrende JOSM motd....

2009-07-09 Thread Dirk Stöcker
On Wed, 8 Jul 2009, Wolfgang wrote: Ob ich mit josm-1732 oder 1669 oder 1492 oder sonstwas arbeite, ist mir nicht so wichtig, wenn alles funktioniert. Wenn aber das auf Suse hinterlegte Paket 1669 plötzlich nicht mehr zu den Plugins passt, und das betrifft ca 60% aller Plugins, werde ich in

Re: [Talk-de] osmarender in JOSM

2009-07-09 Thread Dirk Stöcker
On Wed, 8 Jul 2009, Tobias Wendorff wrote: unterstützt das WebKit zufällig SVG und XML oder kann man es ihm beibringen? Man könnte auf diese Weise die gezeichneten Objekte nahezu in Echtzeit gerendert anschauen :-) Probier es aus. Entweder Safari oder Konqueror installieren, dann hast Du

Re: [Talk-de] Tiefbrunnen etc. eintragen

2009-07-09 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
Am 9. Juli 2009 01:31 schrieb Mark Obrembalski m...@obrembalski.de: den Proposed features gibt es noch man_made=water_well, bei dem der Proponent aber wohl eher nicht an die Tiefbrunnen der Wasserwerke gedacht hat (ich werde das auf der Diskussionsseite mal ansprechen). Vielleicht ein weiteres

Re: [Talk-de] Hall of Fame - Strassen komplett erfasst! - H öhe

2009-07-09 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
Am 9. Juli 2009 08:20 schrieb Andreas Labres l...@lab.at: Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: Am 9. Juli 2009 00:45 schrieb Markus liste12a4...@gmx.de: Dazu gibts schon umfangreiche Infos: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/de:Altitude http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/de:Water_Depth und auf

Re: [Talk-de] Copyright von alten Landkarten

2009-07-09 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
Am 9. Juli 2009 08:00 schrieb Ropino rop...@online.de: Mir ist klar, daß die Karten die heutige Realtität nur bedingt wiedergeben. Ich denke jedoch darüber nach Flüsse/Seen abzuzeichnen. Insbesondere in Polen gibt es noch sehr viele weiße Flecken. Dort würde ich auch die alten Hauptstraßen

Re: [Talk-de] Copyright von alten Landkarten

2009-07-09 Thread Tobias Wendorff
Am Do, 9.07.2009, 08:00 schrieb Ropino: Wie steht es um die Nutzbarkeit von alten (staatlichen/amtlichen) Landkarten. Eine konkrete Person ist bei diesen Karten im Regelfall nicht vorhanden, somit greift 70 Jahre nach dem Tod des Urhebers nicht wirklich. Das ist - für Deutschland - AFAIK

Re: [Talk-de] Hall of Fame - Strassen komplett erfasst! - H öhe

2009-07-09 Thread Wolfgang
Am Donnerstag, 9. Juli 2009 13:06:46 schrieb Martin Koppenhoefer: Am 9. Juli 2009 08:20 schrieb Andreas Labres l...@lab.at: Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: Am 9. Juli 2009 00:45 schrieb Markus liste12a4...@gmx.de: Dazu gibts schon umfangreiche Infos:

Re: [Talk-de] Tiefbrunnen etc. eintragen

2009-07-09 Thread Olaf Kotzte
Alle vom Menschen gebohrten oder gegrabenen Brunnen sind per Definition Tiefbrunnen. Es macht also keinen Sinn noch einen extra Tag für Tiefbrunnen anzulegen. man_made=water_well ist daher vollkommen ausreichend. Grüße Olaf Am 09.07.2009 um 01:31 schrieb Mark Obrembalski: Nachdem ich nun

Re: [Talk-de] Tiefbrunnen etc. eintragen

2009-07-09 Thread Norbert Kück
Hallo, am 09.07.2009 01:31 schrieb Mark Obrembalski: [...] Da wir aber auch schon man_made=water_tower, man_made=wastewater_plant und man_made=reservoir_covered haben, wäre es vielleicht auch nicht schlecht, analog zum Schlüssel power einen Schlüssel für Einrichtungen der Trink- und

Re: [Talk-de] Tiefbrunnen etc. eintragen - Hochwasserwarnung

2009-07-09 Thread Garry
Norbert Kück schrieb: BTW: Ausgewiesene Überschwemmungsgebiete sind auch nicht uninterssant. (Ist schon manches geparkte Auto aus den Fluten gezogen worden. Passiert in Bremerhaven öfter mal.) Dazu habe ich auch noch nichts zu gefunden. Aufgrund geänderter gesetzlicher Grundlagen werden in

Re: [Talk-de] Format für Datenimport?

2009-07-09 Thread Sven Geggus
Tobias Wendorff tobias.wendo...@uni-dortmund.de wrote: Das stimmt so nicht. GK funktioniert an verschiedenen Stellen des Globus, daher wäre es gefährlich, feste Punkte in proj4 anzugeben. Von fest kann gar keine Rede sein. Es geht um die jeweiligen verwendeten GK Streifen 2-4. Das BKG

[Talk-de] Raucherclub

2009-07-09 Thread Robert
Hallo, wie taggt ihr Kneipen, die Raucherclubs (Mitgliedschaft notwendig) sind? Haben sich da irgendwelche Zusatztags etabliert? Bob ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de

Re: [Talk-de] Format für Datenimport?

2009-07-09 Thread Tobias Wendorff
Sven Geggus schrieb: Tobias Wendorff tobias.wendo...@uni-dortmund.de wrote: Das stimmt so nicht. GK funktioniert an verschiedenen Stellen des Globus, daher wäre es gefährlich, feste Punkte in proj4 anzugeben. Von fest kann gar keine Rede sein. Es geht um die jeweiligen verwendeten GK

Re: [Talk-de] Format für Datenimport? // Nacht rag

2009-07-09 Thread Tobias Wendorff
Wenn Du die Mailinglist von proj4 verfolgst, wird klar, dass selbst GK dort nicht optimal implementiert ist. Die Herführung der Reihen für die GK-Projektion sind teilweise sehr mysteriös, da die Quellen fehlen. Daher gibt es neben dem tmerc mittlerweile andere transversale Mercatorprojektionen,

Re: [Talk-de] Copyright von alten Landkarten

2009-07-09 Thread Tobias Wendorff
Martin Koppenhoefer schrieb: wobei selbst Seen und Flüsse sich ändern, vor allem in der Form / im genauen Verlauf, da der ja nicht selten vom Menschen beeinflusst wird. Tja, die große OSM-Frage wieder: Qualität oder Quantität? Wollen wir den See erstmal drinhaben und - wie von Dir beschrieben -

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