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causeway=embankment/piling/yes is nearly over, so if you have any
comments or questions, please put them forward in the next couple of days.
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Causeway
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On Mon, 14 Dec 2009, Serge Wroclawski wrote:
So where does someone like me begin? Is there a good book I can read?
A video course online?
I realize that many universities offer a GIS class, but I'm wondering
if this is something that can be relatively self-taught?
I've seen online references
it works on name:iso key=pair only or something extra for wikipedia
linkages?
it works on name:xx tags, where xx is the language code of one of the
wikipedias:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:SiteMatrix
Peter
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2009/12/13 Anthony o...@inbox.org:
On Sat, Dec 12, 2009 at 8:17 PM, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com
wrote:
The problem I have with that is my labour is used to commercially
benefit others and in turn nothing they do would have to be
Maybe I missed something in the discussion but...
Why must there be migration to the new licence? Why can't we run both
indefinitely?
Brendan
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Another question that didn't seem to be addressed:
What is Yahoo's stance towards the OdbL? In regards to its imagery?
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If you fork the project, and fund the upkeep of new servers,
bandwidth, etc, then sure.
But even if you could do that, which one would I contribute to? I'm
not going to do everything twice...
Cheers, Joseph
2009/12/14 Brendan Morley morb@beagle.com.au:
Maybe I missed something in the
Actually, I've decided I'm not going to release my data as PD. I prefer
copyleft. I prefer CC-BY-SA. It keeps people from taking my data
and incorporating it into data under more restrictive licenses. Like ODbL.
I'm assuming this is your comment Anthony? (I'm starting to lose track of the
2009/12/14 Brendan Morley morb@beagle.com.au:
Maybe I missed something in the discussion but...
Why must there be migration to the new licence? Why can't we run both
indefinitely?
Because there are things you can do with one that you can't do with
the other, and there are things you
Hi,
Brendan Morley wrote:
Another question that didn't seem to be addressed:
What is Yahoo's stance towards the OdbL? In regards to its imagery?
Yahoo has always maintained that our deriving data from their imagery is
covered by their terms of use, which would make their stance towards
ODbL
On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 11:24 AM, Brendan Morley morb@beagle.com.au wrote:
Maybe I missed something in the discussion but...
Why must there be migration to the new licence?
mainly because the current license doesn't work. that is; in some
jurisdictions it isn't able to enforce the
On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 11:45 AM, Peter Childs pchi...@bcs.org wrote:
CCbySA says you must attribute where it came from, ODbl make no such
demand.
ODbL does make such a demand, see:
http://www.opendatacommons.org/licenses/odbl/summary/
http://www.opendatacommons.org/licenses/odbl/1.0/
On Sun, 13 Dec 2009 11:17:41 +1000, John Smith wrote:
If people or companies are benefiting, why shouldn't there be some
expectations to return the benefits to everyone, not just hoard it
away for the benefit of commercial operators if they themselves are
benefiting from it?
The home page of the
Brendan Morley wrote:
Why must there be migration to the new licence? Why can't we run both
indefinitely?
A major reason for introducing ODbL is that many believe CC-by-SA to
only inadequately protect our data (so that it might be possible in some
jurisdictions to use our data without
On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 10:45 PM, Peter Childs pchi...@bcs.org wrote:
CCbySA says you must attribute where it came from, ODbl make no such
demand. So by following ODbl you break CCbySA. and the law is
about black and white not shades of grey.
Well, it's a bit more subtle than that, really.
2009/12/14 Brendan Morley morb@beagle.com.au:
What is *materially removed* from you if your labour is used to
commercially benefit others and/or commercial companies [are] just sucking
up all
the data and not giving hardly anything back in return if they extend the
map?
I'm not a source
2009/12/14 Brendan Morley morb@beagle.com.au:
And the copyleft mindset of the LWP continues to perpetuate substantial
legal [...] restrictions on [...] use. So really, the OSM project has
failed to deliver on this latent demand.
I've seen the same comments regarding GPL v BSD licenses,
On Sat, 12 Dec 2009 18:48:17 +0100, andrzej zaborowski wrote:
2009/12/11 Shalabh shalab...@gmail.com:
Ok, heres a question I have been meaning to ask for long. What is the big
deal if the big, bad G takes a chunk of data from OSM and uses it? Do I
care? No. If anything, I would be happy that
On Mon, 14 Dec 2009 11:50:12 +, Matt Amos wrote:
On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 11:24 AM, Brendan Morley morb@beagle.com.au
wrote:
Maybe I missed something in the discussion but...
Why must there be migration to the new licence?
mainly because the current license doesn't work. that is; in
On Mon, 14 Dec 2009 11:45:44 +, Peter Childs wrote:
2009/12/14 Brendan Morley morb@beagle.com.au:
Maybe I missed something in the discussion but...
Why must there be migration to the new licence? Why can't we run both
indefinitely?
Because there are things you can do with one
2009/12/14 Brendan Morley morb@beagle.com.au:
Google has a lot of data and are good at getting more, be it official
or crowdsourced. It would be a huge loss for the collective knowledge
of everyone if this data escapes the virus. I can't afford that loss,
maybe you can.
What is being lost
2009/12/14 Brendan Morley morb@beagle.com.au:
I've seen the links and I trust I'm clear on what the LWP is up to. However
that's not what I signed up for, to be honest. I mean it's an
OpenStreetMap not a CopyleftMap or anything that unambiguous. I got sold
on the blurb on that wiki page
2009/12/14 Peter Childs pchi...@bcs.org:
CCbySA says you must attribute where it came from, ODbl make no such
demand. So by following ODbl you break CCbySA. and the law is
about black and white not shades of grey.
CC-BY is attributation, CC-BY-SA is attributation + sharing changes
under
On Mon, 14 Dec 2009 22:06:36 +1000, John Smith wrote:
2009/12/14 Brendan Morley morb@beagle.com.au:
What is *materially removed* from you if your labour is used to
commercially benefit others and/or commercial companies [are] just sucking
up all
the data and not giving hardly anything
On Mon, 14 Dec 2009 22:08:15 +1000, John Smith wrote:
2009/12/14 Brendan Morley morb@beagle.com.au:
And the copyleft mindset of the LWP continues to perpetuate substantial
legal [...] restrictions on [...] use. So really, the OSM project
has
failed to deliver on this latent demand.
2009/12/14 Brendan Morley morb@beagle.com.au:
I suppose you would have hated contributing to Linux then.
GPL has similar sharing required by ODBL, if you had said BSD you
might have had a point, MS and others have taken BSD code and given
nothing back, they have recently been shown to have
2009/12/14 Brendan Morley morb@beagle.com.au:
I agree! (-:
When pondering this earlier today I realised one of the fundamental
ambiguities is:
Is freedom/openness enforced on the dataset *itself*? Or
Is freedom/openness enforced on your right to *use* that dataset?
I'd always assumed
On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 11:37 PM, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com wrote:
What is being lost though?
When Google sucks up data what's being lost is supporting the greater
good, Google just sucks up all the data they can for their own good.
To be fair to google, I've had a lot of fun with
On Mon, 14 Dec 2009 22:43:38 +1000, John Smith wrote:
2009/12/14 Brendan Morley morb@beagle.com.au:
the large print promised to address
holding back people from using them in creative, productive, or unexpected
ways? SA still holds them back somewhat.
I disagree, it doesn't hold you back
2009/12/14 Steve Bennett stevag...@gmail.com:
On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 11:37 PM, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com
wrote:
What is being lost though?
When Google sucks up data what's being lost is supporting the greater
good, Google just sucks up all the data they can for their own good.
2009/12/14 Brendan Morley morb@beagle.com.au:
And that requirement has a chilling effect (holds you back) on some
productive ways. Hypothetical example: I want to put my fast food joints
on a map. If I licenced from a typical commercial provider, I pay a one time
consideration, produce my
On Mon, 14 Dec 2009 22:43:38 +1000, John Smith wrote:
2009/12/14 Brendan Morley morb@beagle.com.au:
So why not put a wall down the middle of the house and protect that with a
proper lock if you like, and leave the other half open for visitors to
freely use in creative, productive, or
2009/12/14 Brendan Morley morb@beagle.com.au:
Well it got mixed up as soon as most maps you think of as free actually
have legal or technical restrictions collided with the existence of
ShareAlike.
No, your assumptions are bumping into the share a like provision, you
assumed something that
Hi List!
I've just discovered that two of the three XAPI servers return
incomplete data when trying to get a relation with tag search. The
relation itself, the nodes and the ways are returned but the ways and
nodes are empty with tags or members.
Try the following requests and you should see
Your considered vote on this proposal will be appreciated.
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Dog_off-leash_area
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On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 6:42 AM, Brendan Morley morb@beagle.com.auwrote:
Actually, I've decided I'm not going to release my data as PD. I prefer
copyleft. I prefer CC-BY-SA. It keeps people from taking my data and
incorporating it into data under more restrictive licenses. Like ODbL.
I'm
2009/12/15 Anthony o...@inbox.org:
My primary reason for not wanting to release my data as PD is that I don't
want to support OSM if it decides to go with the ODbL. A street map
licensed under ODbL is not something I find worthy of my (uncompensated)
support, and the fact that the project
Serge,
Check out Quantum GIS, it is a powerful OpenSource desktop GIS that is
evolving pretty rapidly. It also includes a plugin architecture, so
people can write their own Python plugins. http://www.qgis.org/
OSGEO maintains a list of educational content in their wiki:
On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 10:17 AM, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.comwrote:
Perhaps my previous hints were too subtle, but you've stated that
cc-by-sa isn't enforceable in your jurisdiction so how will you use
something unenforceable to prevent it from being relicensed as ODBL?
Again, I
2009/12/15 Anthony o...@inbox.org:
Again, I don't remember saying that. And if I did, I apologize.
Sorry if I'm mistaken, but I'm pretty sure you mentioned it.
In any case, if OSM decides to take the position that my contributions are
not copyrightable, and therefore they are free to
Andre
It is/was a software problem. What you are seeing on hypercube is the fixed
version. The patch will be deployed to the other servers as soon as I'm
sure it's stable.
There's also another patch I'm working on at the moment relating to queries
returning extra relations that are outside the
On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 10:57 AM, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.comwrote:
2009/12/15 Anthony o...@inbox.org:
In any case, if OSM decides to take the position that my contributions
are
not copyrightable, and therefore they are free to incorporate them into
an
ODBL project, that means I
CC-BY-SA says this: You may not offer or impose any terms on the Work that
alter or restrict the terms of this License or the recipients' exercise of
the rights granted hereunder.
The ODbL attempts to do exactly that.
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2009/12/15 Anthony o...@inbox.org:
CC-BY-SA says this: You may not offer or impose any terms on the Work that
alter or restrict the terms of this License or the recipients' exercise of
the rights granted hereunder.
The ODbL attempts to do exactly that.
Correct, but the reason for ODBL is
In a park is a ditch. There is a very small bridge going over the ditch.
I've tagged the ditch with barrier=ditch. Should the ditch be layer=-1?
Even though the park is layer=0? Should I use barrier=entrance on the node
where the ways overlap, bridge=yes on the bridge (which means splitting the
On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 9:28 PM, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.comwrote:
2009/12/15 Anthony o...@inbox.org:
Yeah, well, a contract can't be enforced against people who agree to it.
I think you meant disagree, but only if you have a suitable
license/legal method that can enforce that term
On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 9:21 PM, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.comwrote:
2009/12/15 Anthony o...@inbox.org:
CC-BY-SA says this: You may not offer or impose any terms on the Work
that
alter or restrict the terms of this License or the recipients' exercise
of
the rights granted
2009/12/15 Anthony o...@inbox.org:
Ah, but I don't plan on ever visiting the OSM website when and if they
switch to the ODbL.
I doubt just visiting the OSM website without some kind of click
wrapper similar to nearmap.com does would force you to agree with ODBL
for just using the website. On
On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 1:31 PM, Anthony o...@inbox.org wrote:
In a park is a ditch. There is a very small bridge going over the ditch.
I've tagged the ditch with barrier=ditch. Should the ditch be layer=-1?
Even though the park is layer=0?
Layers are only there to explain the relative
On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 1:39 PM, Anthony o...@inbox.org wrote:
Well, this particular thread was asking Why can't we run both [CC-BY-SA and
the ODbL] indefinitely? I gave one answer. Because the terms of CC-BY-SA
disallow it.
Aren't you misreading the terms? Say there is user A, with work W,
2009/12/15 Anthony o...@inbox.org:
CC-BY-SA isn't enforcible on anything. It grants rights, it doesn't take
them away.
It's a license, if you break licenses on software you can be taken to
court to make sure you do follow them in future and are punished for
past digressions. So while it grants
On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 9:50 PM, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.comwrote:
2009/12/15 Anthony o...@inbox.org:
CC-BY-SA isn't enforcible on anything. It grants rights, it doesn't
take
them away.
It's a license, if you break licenses on software you can be taken to
court to make sure you
On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 2:12 PM, Anthony o...@inbox.org wrote:
Read Jacobsen v. Katzer, and the commentary on it, and then get back to us.
Wasn't there some case where one company sued another for not making
source code available as required?
Also, what jurisdiction are you referring to there?
2009/12/15 Anthony o...@inbox.org:
No, if you break copyright law you can be taken to court to make sure you
don't break copyright law in the future. If break licenses, then, well,
it depends on the license. In the case of CC-BY-SA, if you breach the terms
You are confusing contracts with
2009/12/15 Steve Bennett stevag...@gmail.com:
On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 2:12 PM, Anthony o...@inbox.org wrote:
Read Jacobsen v. Katzer, and the commentary on it, and then get back to us.
Wasn't there some case where one company sued another for not making
source code available as required?
2009/12/15 Anthony o...@inbox.org:
Browsewrap may or may not be enforceable. And even if it is enforceable any
judgment for damages would probably be minimal. But I'm willing to abide by
the terms of service of the sites that I visit, at least when I take the
time to read them. Not doing so
2009/12/15 Steve Bennett stevag...@gmail.com:
On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 1:31 PM, Anthony o...@inbox.org wrote:
In a park is a ditch. There is a very small bridge going over the ditch.
I've tagged the ditch with barrier=ditch. Should the ditch be layer=-1?
Even though the park is layer=0?
On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 2:36 PM, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com wrote:
I tend to mark bridges as layer=1 and anything at ground level I don't
set a layer tag, which seems the most logical to me since ditches
aren't under the ground etc.
The one benefit of marking waterways layer=-1
On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 10:31 PM, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.comwrote:
2009/12/15 Anthony o...@inbox.org:
No, if you break copyright law you can be taken to court to make sure you
don't break copyright law in the future. If break licenses, then,
well,
it depends on the license. In
2009/12/15 Anthony o...@inbox.org:
On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 10:31 PM, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com
wrote:
2009/12/15 Anthony o...@inbox.org:
No, if you break copyright law you can be taken to court to make sure
you
don't break copyright law in the future. If break licenses, then,
2009/12/15 Steve Bennett stevag...@gmail.com:
On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 2:36 PM, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com wrote:
I tend to mark bridges as layer=1 and anything at ground level I don't
set a layer tag, which seems the most logical to me since ditches
aren't under the ground etc.
The
On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 10:36 PM, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.comwrote:
2009/12/15 Steve Bennett stevag...@gmail.com:
On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 1:31 PM, Anthony o...@inbox.org wrote:
In a park is a ditch. There is a very small bridge going over the
ditch.
I've tagged the ditch with
On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 10:47 PM, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.comwrote:
2009/12/15 Steve Bennett stevag...@gmail.com:
On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 2:36 PM, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com
wrote:
I tend to mark bridges as layer=1 and anything at ground level I don't
set a layer tag,
On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 10:47 PM, Anthony o...@inbox.org wrote:
So I've used barrier=entrance for the node where the way and the ditch
cross.
More specifically, barrier=entrance and bridge=yes.
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2009/12/15 Anthony o...@inbox.org:
Okay, but here's the thing. We don't put a fence at layer=1, even though
it's on top of the ground. Because then it wouldn't be a barrier to travel
along the ground.
It's attached to the ground... bridges are usually above at least some
ground level
On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 2:47 PM, Anthony o...@inbox.org wrote:
I tend to agree with you, but:
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Image:IMG_6783.JPG
Are both of those bridges layer=1? At least the road one, and arguably
both, are effectively at ground level.
Right now I have the ditch with
the area=yes has to be removed.
in addition, all the districts are closed ways at the moment (which
means on border on top of another). we'll have to delete the duplicate
ways, split them in the right places (ie where districts meet), set the
right admin_level and build the appropriate
i just checked the public domain natural earth data which was released last
week http://www.naturalearthdata.com/
Its an excellent dataset and even features the indian state boundaries as
both lines as well as polygons. can someone check if it coincides with our
census2001 shapefiles, if it does,
Hello
We came to know about the Fort Cochin Heritage walk, which brings in a lot
of tourists flying down to Kerala. Recently, one of our friends were there
and he had pointed out that the map was not good, to let the tourists take
total advantage of the walk. Probably, GeoHackers
2009/12/9 Simone Saviolo simone.savi...@gmail.com:
Grazie della segnalazione! Ho fixato quasi tutte le stazioni (mi sono
accorto di averne lasciata indietro una).
Per favore, segna anche come fixati i bug su openstreetbug quando li risolvi.
Grazie!!!
Andrea.
Si aprono oggi le votazioni per la Proposed Feature leisure=dog_park,
che appoggio pienamente e a cui ho contribuito disegnando personalmente
l'icona, già renderizzata su osmarender. Si spera in futuro anche su
Mapnik. Un grazie in anticipo a chi voterà a favore e appoggierà la
feature, usandola.
2009/12/14 Fabri erfab...@gmail.com:
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Dog_off-leash_area
Bellissimo lavoro, l'icona mi piace un sacco e ho votato sì.
(Ma il tag aggiuntivo water=... non mi piace)
Mi sembra un tag molto utile, conosco alcune zone di questo tipo e ora
ho
2009/12/12 Alberto Nogaro bartosom...@yahoo.it:
Comunque se il vostro problema è quello che il WMS della Lombardia non
supporta una particolare proiezione potete usare GeoWebCache [1], è molto
facile da mettere in piedi, è molto efficiente e fa bene il suo lavoro.
Si, secondo me il problema
si, era anche a pag. 23 (o 27, non ricordo bene) del quotidiano
cartaceo. L'articolo occupava l'intera pagina.
ottima pubblicità direi.
complimenti a Simone, nell'articolo presentato come consigliere
d'amministrazione (?) dell'associazione (??)... :))
Il 14 dicembre 2009 08.46, Fabry
Mi associo alla richiesta di Alberto, GeoWebCache sembra essere la
soluzione ma non ho assolutamente capito come si usino i gridset (che
penso siano fondamentali per gestire la conversione da Roma1 a WGS84)
In realtà devo corregermi: GeoWebCache fa solo da cache tra un
fornitore di dati e i
In realta` Alessandro ha gia` fatto il 90% del lavoro implementando un
server che fornisce le tiles,
Beh, sono dei file statici. Il server e` un vecchio apache su un
vecchio pentium200.
l'unica cosa da migliorare e` quella di riproiettare le bitmap
usando un metodo un po' piu` preciso.
Il giorno 14 dicembre 2009 18.54, Gianmario Mengozzi
gianmario.mengo...@gmail.com ha scritto:
si, era anche a pag. 23 (o 27, non ricordo bene) del quotidiano
cartaceo. L'articolo occupava l'intera pagina.
ottima pubblicità direi.
complimenti a Simone, nell'articolo presentato come
2009/12/15 andrea giacomelli pibi...@gmail.com:
si, era anche a pag. 23 (o 27, non ricordo bene) del quotidiano
cartaceo. L'articolo occupava l'intera pagina.
grazie a tutti quelli che mi hanno scritto per complimentarsi per l'articolo.
ottima pubblicità direi.
penso sia la prima uscita di
Die bedoelde ik in ieder geval wel.
Roeland had het in eerste instantie over de nodes die alleen source=AND
hadden. Maar wat mij betreft mag die AND_nodes er dus ook af.
Groet,
Floris
Lennard wrote:
Roeland Douma wrote:
Mijn voorstel is dan ook om de source=AND van alle nodes af te slopen.
Ik dacht in eerste instantie aan source=AND inderdaad.
Maar wat mij betreft kan AND_nodes=* er ook af. Dan poetsen we meteen alle
nodes schoon :)
Groet,
--Roeland
On Monday 14 December 2009 10:15:08 Floris Looijesteijn wrote:
Die bedoelde ik in ieder geval wel.
Roeland had het in eerste
Hallo allemaal,
Ik mis een area in mijn omgeving (waterpartij). Het zou kunnen dat
iemand hem met een goede reden heeft verwijderd. Ik ben wél nieuwsgierig
naar die reden. Maar hoe vind ik terug wie hem verwijderd heeft? Er is
geen enkele node meer van over! Hoe vind ik de history van iets dat
Welke omgeving zou helpen :)
Groet,
--Roeland
On Monday 14 December 2009 20:33:42 YRS wrote:
Hallo allemaal,
Ik mis een area in mijn omgeving (waterpartij). Het zou kunnen dat
iemand hem met een goede reden heeft verwijderd. Ik ben wél nieuwsgierig
naar die reden. Maar hoe vind ik terug
++ 14/12/09 20:33 +0100 - YRS:
Ik mis een area in mijn omgeving (waterpartij). Het zou kunnen dat
iemand hem met een goede reden heeft verwijderd. Ik ben wél
nieuwsgierig naar die reden. Maar hoe vind ik terug wie hem verwijderd
heeft? Er is geen enkele node meer van over! Hoe vind ik de
Dit klinkt als waar ik naar op zoek ben. Heb even gekeken, maar Edit
mode? Ik krijg de keus tussen bewerken en opslaan en direct
bewerken. Is dat wat je bedoeld? (sorry, ben een josm-mapper)
Rejo Zenger schreef:
++ 14/12/09 20:33 +0100 - YRS:
Ik mis een area in mijn omgeving (waterpartij).
er is nu een interessant debat live te volgen op www.debalie.nl
of wisten jullie dat al?
joris
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++ 14/12/09 21:42 +0100 - YRS:
Dit klinkt als waar ik naar op zoek ben. Heb even gekeken, maar Edit
mode? Ik krijg de keus tussen bewerken en opslaan en direct
bewerken. Is dat wat je bedoeld? (sorry, ben een josm-mapper)
Ik ben ook een JOSM gebruiker. Maar, ik heb het volgende gedaan:
- op
2009/12/14 James Livingston doc...@mac.com:
I asked this a while back (possibly on IRC not on the list) and no-one really
knew. In some cases, particularly SLSCs, the original purpose would still be
very useful to have marked, in that case because it tells you where the
patrolled part of
On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 7:20 PM, James Livingston doc...@mac.com wrote:
They're definitely not a QLD thing, but I think they are a very Australian
thing. As well as sports clubs, you have the Surf Life Saving Clubs, RSLs and
so on. Although a lot only have one bar and restaurant, there are a
2009/12/14 Steve Bennett stevag...@gmail.com:
Yeah, agreed that RSL's, SLSC's etc are in the same category. Are they
really different from a Zagame's type venue, though?
No idea what Zagame's is, so can't comment, you seem to think they are
similar/same thing so we need to figure out a suitable
The reason I thought they may be a QLD thing is the state Government
here licences them a bit differently from your average pub (or used
to, I haven't checked lately). Thus the (official) members only
rules, connection to a sport club, etc. This connection can be quite
vague - the one nearest my
On Mon, 14 Dec 2009, John Smith wrote:
I'm still trying to see how this is very different from amenity=pub
with another amenity=pokies (or whatever), and name=Smithtown
Crocodiles Sports Club. Would it render differently from a pub?
That's the whole point, they aren't a pub and they should
2009/12/14 Stephen Hope slh...@gmail.com:
The reason I thought they may be a QLD thing is the state Government
here licences them a bit differently from your average pub (or used
to, I haven't checked lately). Thus the (official) members only
rules, connection to a sport club, etc. This
On 14/12/2009, at 6:41 PM, Steve Bennett wrote:
I think my central argument is this: Your sports_club venue could be
- a sports facility with no eating/drinking/gambling facilities for the public
- an eating/drinking/gambling venue for the public with no sports facilities
- or both.
This
2009/12/14 Liz ed...@billiau.net:
trouble with the combine amenities approach is that we can only have one
amenity on a node, but amenities are getting so broad, there is often need for
more than one amenity on a node
Just do what I did for the BP nodes.
amenity:atm=yes
or just atm=yes as
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Subject: Re: [Osmf-talk] Blanket copyright licence in Contributor Terms
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 2009
From: Matt Amos m...@asklater.com
To: Kai Krueger kakrue...@gmail.com
Kai Krueger wrote:
So perhaps
this is a thing that we can put out for a vote
On 14/12/2009, at 6:58 PM, Stephen Hope wrote:
The reason I thought they may be a QLD thing is the state Government
here licences them a bit differently from your average pub (or used
to, I haven't checked lately). Thus the (official) members only
rules, connection to a sport club, etc.
On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 8:03 PM, James Livingston doc...@mac.com wrote:
I'm sure that there was a tag for the first, although I can't find it now.
Something like leisure=club_rooms or similar, which related to a sporting
group but wasn't necessarily where the sports themselves were played,
There is a number of problems all rolled up into one.
1) People that want the status quo
2) People that agree with the intent of CC-BY-SA/ODBL but don't
necessarily agree with ODBL
3) People that agree with ODBL
4) People that want PD or something else
At present I'm in camp #2 and I probably
On 14/12/2009, at 7:10 PM, Steve Bennett wrote:
On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 8:03 PM, James Livingston doc...@mac.com wrote:
I'm sure that there was a tag for the first, although I can't find it now.
Something like leisure=club_rooms or similar, which related to a sporting
group but wasn't
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