Re: [OSM-talk] Data copied from Google Maps

2012-11-03 Thread Stephan Knauss
On 03.11.2012 00:14, Andrew MacKinnon wrote: On Fri, Nov 2, 2012 at 2:33 PM, Brad Neuhauser brad.neuhau...@gmail.com wrote: From the dates, it looks like most of those are from the Haiti earthquake tracing, when Google allowed OSM to use its imagery for tracing. See

[OSM-talk] Operation Cowboy - 23. -25.11.

2012-11-03 Thread Matthias Meißer
Hi everybody, I'd like to announce the fellow of the night of the living maps party: Operation cowboy : http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Operation_cowboy Guess what, this time it's about mapping the US :) The date is the weekend from 23.11 till Sunday, so everybody should have a chance to

Re: [OSM-talk] Data copied from Google Maps

2012-11-03 Thread Andrew MacKinnon
I strongly suggest to contact DWG and not try to do some clean-up action on your own. How certain are you that the source tag refers to the coordinate? Culd also be the phone number of a shop found by a google search, right? Each of these occurences has to be checked and the mapper

Re: [OSM-talk] Data copied from Google Maps

2012-11-03 Thread Stephan Knauss
On 03.11.2012 19:25, Andrew MacKinnon wrote: Is copying from Google search acceptable anyway? I say yes. Even this is inferior mapping like any kind of armchair mapping. Let's assume one enters website addresses and phone numbers of restaurants. Tagging phone= and website=. You are not

Re: [OSM-talk] Operation Cowboy - 23. -25.11.

2012-11-03 Thread Paul Johnson
I'm trying to organize one in the Tulsa area, using this Google eventhttps://plus.google.com/u/0/events/c3ohfbgso96b1ahm1li1hba5aucto organize and promote it. On Sat, Nov 3, 2012 at 5:41 AM, Matthias Meißer dig...@arcor.de wrote: Hi everybody, I'd like to announce the fellow of the night of

Re: [OSM-talk] Data copied from Google Maps

2012-11-03 Thread Paul Johnson
On Sat, Nov 3, 2012 at 2:09 PM, Stephan Knauss o...@stephans-server.dewrote: As you mentioned StreetView: Using it to create a database is likely a violation of their TOS and OSM does not want this practice. In which way Google could have copyright or database rights on factual data derived

Re: [OSM-talk] Data copied from Google Maps

2012-11-03 Thread Ian Sergeant
On 04/11/12 07:24, Paul Johnson wrote: Would it be acceptable to use Street View to aid your memory of local knowledge of the ground truth? Something that's on the tip of your brain and you have actually been there, but can't remember what a specific sign said? Next time, write it down

[OSM-talk] Newish Kid on This Block

2012-11-03 Thread Arnie Shore
Hello all. Let me tell you a bit re what I'm doing (he sez, as though he really knows!) and invite suggestions. We have a free open source computer-aided dispatch application, targeted to teams/agencies with zero budgets for software of this nature, or who find that their needs just aren't

Re: [OSM-talk] Newish Kid on This Block

2012-11-03 Thread Russ Nelson
Arnie Shore writes: We have the basics working with Leaflet and locally-stored tile sets; a JS boolean sends the software to pull tiles from OSM. I'm aware of concerns re the latter, and we'll certainly honor those. Have you looked at OSMAnd? It's an Android application which uses

Re: [OSM-talk] Data copied from Google Maps

2012-11-03 Thread Andrew MacKinnon
On Sat, Nov 3, 2012 at 3:09 PM, Stephan Knauss o...@stephans-server.de wrote: On 03.11.2012 19:25, Andrew MacKinnon wrote: Is copying from Google search acceptable anyway? I say yes. Even this is inferior mapping like any kind of armchair mapping. Let's assume one enters website addresses

Re: [OSM-talk] Data copied from Google Maps

2012-11-03 Thread Steve Doerr
On 03/11/2012 21:31, Andrew MacKinnon wrote: I am pretty sure that in most of these cases, users are copying from Google Maps or Google Street View and the data should be deleted. In many cases, the infringing data is something like a road name. I'm pretty sure that Google have actually said

Re: [OSM-talk] Data copied from Google Maps

2012-11-03 Thread Andrew MacKinnon
On Sat, Nov 3, 2012 at 6:25 PM, Steve Doerr doerr.step...@gmail.com wrote: On 03/11/2012 21:31, Andrew MacKinnon wrote: I am pretty sure that in most of these cases, users are copying from Google Maps or Google Street View and the data should be deleted. In many cases, the infringing data is

Re: [OSM-talk] Data copied from Google Maps

2012-11-03 Thread Cartinus
The wiki says: If you find any acts Vandalism or illegal copying from sources and the user does not respond to messages you can contact the Data Working Group on the e-mail address d...@osmfoundation.org. You are now proposing to skip the messaging the user part and replacing it with

[OSM-talk] Data copied from Google Maps

2012-11-03 Thread Paul Johnson
On Saturday, November 3, 2012, Ian Sergeant wrote: On 04/11/12 07:24, Paul Johnson wrote: Would it be acceptable to use Street View to aid your memory of local knowledge of the ground truth? Something that's on the tip of your brain and you have actually been there, but can't remember what

Re: [OSM-talk] Newish Kid on This Block

2012-11-03 Thread Jeff Meyer
Arnie - I'm hoping OSMAnd answers your mail. If it doesn't, you may want to compare your Leaflet work with what the guys on osm-railsdev/osm-website have been doing integrating Leaflet recently. You may be able to offload some of your maintenance to what they've been working on, and share any

[Talk-it] messaggio da: d...@osmfoundation.org

2012-11-03 Thread Giuseppe Amici
In merito a: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/IT:Emilia_Romagna_edificato http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/IT:Emilia_Romagna_edificato a seguito di un mio piccolo import di una area mancante http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/13726023 mi giunge un messaggio da parte di

Re: [Talk-it] messaggio da: d...@osmfoundation.org

2012-11-03 Thread Gianmario Mengozzi
Puoi postare il msg completo? Gianmario Mengozzi sent by GNexus Il giorno 03/nov/2012 08:37, Giuseppe Amici giuseppeam...@virgilio.it ha scritto: In merito a: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/IT:Emilia_Romagna_edificato ** ** a seguito di un mio piccolo import di una area

Re: [Talk-it] messaggio da: d...@osmfoundation.org

2012-11-03 Thread bruno
On sab, 2012-11-03 at 08:35 +0100, Giuseppe Amici wrote: Che ne dite? Bisogna forse sospendere l'import dei dati? Non so che azione consigliarti, probabilmente ti conviene usare un account apposito per l'import: ci sono state alcune discussioni CHILOMETRICHE sulla lista talk internazionale

Re: [Talk-it] Dubbio relazione boundary

2012-11-03 Thread Stefano Pallicca
Il giorno venerdì 2 novembre 2012, Milani Alessio ha scritto: Ciao a tutti, sstemando i confini comunali della provincia di Venezia sono incappato in una situazione mai affrontata prima: il comune di Caorle è attraversato da una lingua di terra ricadente sotto l'amministrazione di un altro

Re: [Talk-it] Dubbio relazione boundary

2012-11-03 Thread Tiziano D'Angelo
e anche in Primiero, Trentino: http://osm.org/go/0IFn5v~Q- Alcuni comuni hanno delle exclave, completamente separate dal territorio comunale, presumo per ragioni storiche, relative agli alpeggi d'alta montagna. ciao! T 2012/11/3 Stefano Pallicca palli...@gmail.com Il giorno venerdì 2

Re: [Talk-it] messaggio da: d...@osmfoundation.org

2012-11-03 Thread Sky One
2012/11/3 Giuseppe Amici giuseppeam...@virgilio.it: Ho avuto un'esperienza simile quando, dopo il sisma, ho importato gli edifici di Concordia sul Secchia (import fatto a mano, controllando uno per uno gli edifici esistenti - pochi - e rimettendo eventuali tag dove presenti). Da quanto ho capito

Re: [Talk-it] Dubbio relazione boundary

2012-11-03 Thread David Paleino
On Fri, 2 Nov 2012 20:22:08 +0100, Milani Alessio wrote: Ciao a tutti, sstemando i confini comunali della provincia di Venezia sono incappato in una situazione mai affrontata prima: il comune di Caorle è attraversato da una lingua di terra ricadente sotto l'amministrazione di un altro

Re: [Talk-it] Dubbio relazione boundary

2012-11-03 Thread Tiziano D'Angelo
Ad esempio Comune di Imer: http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/relation/46876 2012/11/3 Tiziano D'Angelo tiziano.dang...@gmail.com e anche in Primiero, Trentino: http://osm.org/go/0IFn5v~Q- Alcuni comuni hanno delle exclave, completamente separate dal territorio comunale, presumo per ragioni

[Talk-it] Richiesta controllo SP415 Paullese

2012-11-03 Thread Sky One
Ciao, qualcuno della zona può per favore controllare la Paullese tra lo svincolo della tangenziale est e Pantigliate/Caleppio di Settala? Ci sono diverse cose che non mi convincono: pezzi in cui è highway=trunk ed altri in cui è highway=primary pur non cambiando la conformazione della strada (2

Re: [Talk-it] Come tagghiamo un fontanello ?

2012-11-03 Thread Fabri
Il 30/10/2012 18:25, Tiziano D'Angelo ha scritto: Non scazzottiamoci per così poco, please ;) Infatti, d'altronde su osm vengono taggate da anni le stazioni del car sharing come amenity=car_sharing e le stazioni del bikesharing come bicycle_rental, (tradotto come noleggio bici su josm anche se

[Talk-it] STAZIONE ECOLOGICA

2012-11-03 Thread Mario Pichetti
E' po che mi sbatto per trovare il tag giusto per stazione ecologica. Mi date una dritta, grazie. -- RISPETTA L'AMBIENTE: SE NON TI E' NECESSARIO, NON STAMPARE QUESTA E-MAIL. Le informazioni contenute in questa comunicazione sono riservate e destinate esclusivamente alla/e persona/e o

Re: [Talk-it] STAZIONE ECOLOGICA

2012-11-03 Thread Enrico Piccinelli
Se ho capito giusto cosa intendi per stazione ecologica http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/IT:Tag:amenity%3Drecycling Saluti! -- Enrico Piccinelli picc...@tiscali.it ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org

Re: [Talk-it] STAZIONE ECOLOGICA

2012-11-03 Thread Mario Pichetti
Il 03/11/2012 13:51, Enrico Piccinelli ha scritto: Se ho capito giusto cosa intendi per stazione ecologica http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/IT:Tag:amenity%3Drecycling Saluti! -- Enrico Piccinelli picc...@tiscali.it Chiedo venia, ma qui in romagna le chiamano così le stazioni di

Re: [Talk-it] STAZIONE ECOLOGICA

2012-11-03 Thread Mario Pichetti
http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/13733825 :-) Buona giornata, Mario. ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it

Re: [Talk-it] STAZIONE ECOLOGICA

2012-11-03 Thread Luca Delucchi
Il giorno 03/nov/2012 14:22, Mario Pichetti mario.piche...@gmail.com ha scritto: http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/13733825 :-) Scusa ma l'isola ecologica è solo l'edificio o tutta l'area che è stata mappata come barrier? se è tutta l'area dovresti mettere recycling a tutta l'area

Re: [Talk-it] STAZIONE ECOLOGICA

2012-11-03 Thread Mario Pichetti
Il 03/11/2012 14:51, Mario Pichetti ha scritto: Il 03/11/2012 14:41, Luca Delucchi ha scritto: Il giorno 03/nov/2012 14:22, Mario Pichetti mario.piche...@gmail.com mailto:mario.piche...@gmail.com ha scritto: http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/13733825 :-) Scusa ma l'isola

Re: [Talk-it] STAZIONE ECOLOGICA

2012-11-03 Thread Daniele Forsi
2012/11/3 Mario Pichetti: http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/13733825 :-) se lo sai puoi aggiungere il nome dell'azienda che la gestice: operator=... sarebbero utili anche gli orari di apertura http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Opening_hours e probabilmente l'azienda ha un sito web

Re: [Talk-it] messaggio da: d...@osmfoundation.org

2012-11-03 Thread marco bra
Io per l'import dell'emilia-romagna quando mi e' arrivato il messaggio mi sono creato un secondo untente appunto dedicato agli import e ho proseguito... una particolarità: non riuscivo, nell'utente di import a specificare la stessa mail dell'utente principale mi veniva rifiutato l'immisione del

Re: [Talk-it] STAZIONE ECOLOGICA

2012-11-03 Thread Mario Pichetti
Il 03/11/2012 14:55, Daniele Forsi ha scritto: 2012/11/3 Mario Pichetti: http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/13733825 :-) se lo sai puoi aggiungere il nome dell'azienda che la gestice: operator=... sarebbero utili anche gli orari di apertura

Re: [Talk-it] STAZIONE ECOLOGICA

2012-11-03 Thread Daniele Forsi
Il 03 novembre 2012 15:38, Mario Pichetti ha scritto: Per operator e opening hours ho risolto, per il riferimento con info non saprei che tag usare, forse ref. opening_hours va inserito come spiegato nel link quindi nonva bene in italiano opening_hours = Da Lunedi a Sabato 8.30 - 12.30

Re: [Talk-it] STAZIONE ECOLOGICA

2012-11-03 Thread Mario Pichetti
Il 03/11/2012 17:15, Daniele Forsi ha scritto: Il 03 novembre 2012 15:38, Mario Pichetti ha scritto: Per operator e opening hours ho risolto, per il riferimento con info non saprei che tag usare, forse ref. opening_hours va inserito come spiegato nel link quindi nonva bene in italiano

Re: [Talk-it] STAZIONE ECOLOGICA

2012-11-03 Thread Daniele Forsi
Il 03 novembre 2012 17:27, Mario Pichetti ha scritto: Per info intendevo quale tipo di tag dovevo mettere per un eventuale link web. allora c'erano dei problemi col mio messaggio precedente: website=http://www oppure contact:website=http://www in entrambi i casi va bene l'home page,

Re: [Talk-it] messaggio da: d...@osmfoundation.org

2012-11-03 Thread Paolo Monegato
Il 03/11/2012 08:35, Giuseppe Amici ha scritto: Che ne dite? Bisogna forse sospendere l’import dei dati? Direi che le opzioni sono quattro: 1) Ti adegui a quanto deciso dal comitato centrale 2) Sospendi le operazioni perché tutta 'sta burocrazia ti ha fatto passare la voglia di mappare 3)

Re: [Talk-it] STAZIONE ECOLOGICA

2012-11-03 Thread Fabri
se vuoi e se ne sei a conoscenza, puoi anche inserire i vari tag per specificare che tipo di materiali si possono conferire all'isola ecologica...pardon...stazione ecologica. ad esempio se sai che si possono portare televisori/monitor e cellulari ma non vernici metti |recycling:tv_monitor=yes|

Re: [Talk-it] messaggio da: d...@osmfoundation.org

2012-11-03 Thread Leonardo
Ciao, Pure io sono stato raggiunto da una mail simile, anzi due volte, da parte dell'utente pnorman che mi intimava di crearmi un account dedicato per i miei import in Veneto. Io gli ho risposto che finchè non ci sarà la possibilità di spostare tutto il mio storico di import su un nuovo

Re: [Talk-it] Come tagghiamo un fontanello ?

2012-11-03 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
Am 03/nov/2012 um 12:45 schrieb Fabri erfab...@gmail.com: Infatti, d'altronde su osm vengono taggate da anni le stazioni del car sharing come amenity=car_sharing e le stazioni del bikesharing come bicycle_rental, (tradotto come noleggio bici su josm anche se in molte città è gratuito) e

Re: [Talk-it] Dubbio relazione boundary

2012-11-03 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
Am 03/nov/2012 um 11:23 schrieb David Paleino da...@debian.org: Semplicemente.. metti tutti i pezzi come outer. +1 Cerchiamo di tenere le cose il più semplice possibile, è fondamentale per facilizzare l'ingresso in OSM. Ciao Martin ___ Talk-it

Re: [Talk-it] messaggio da: d...@osmfoundation.org

2012-11-03 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
Am 03/nov/2012 um 23:28 schrieb Leonardo kinetocor...@gmail.com: l'unica cosa che ho fatto è stato cambiare il mio nickname da DarkSwan a DarkSwan_Import, continuando comunque a usare quell'account anche per il mapping locale e i piccoli fix. Quindi se si dovesse un'altra volta

Re: [Talk-it] Un distributore di benzina ha chiuso

2012-11-03 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
Am 01/nov/2012 um 13:03 schrieb Gianluca Boero gianlucabo...@alice.it: Non sono sicuro com'è la situazione in Italia, ma in Germania il marchio spesso (q8, shell, ecc) non è ne il proprietario ne il gestore di un benzinaio, invece il gestore lo vedi dai scontrini ed il proprietario nel

Re: [Talk-it] messaggio da: d...@osmfoundation.org

2012-11-03 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
Am 03/nov/2012 um 11:15 schrieb Sky One sky...@skyone.it: resta da capire se una cosa fatta casa per casa sia inteso come import (secondo me no). È un Import (ma non è un import automatico). Lo è perchè non hai creato tu il dato, ma l'hai copiato da qualcun altro, che tiene i diritti.

Re: [talk-au] traffic lights on dual carriageway intersections

2012-11-03 Thread John Henderson
Steer wrote: I have been trying to find the accepted practise for mapping traffic lights where dual carriageways interest. There is much discussion on various sites, but most seems to be a bit old, and I’m not convinced I’ve found what is the latest accepted practise. I checked some

Re: [talk-au] traffic lights on dual carriageway intersections

2012-11-03 Thread Ross Scanlon
And the only area it's done like this is in Melbourne. Cheers Ross On 03/11/12 17:03, John Henderson wrote: Steer wrote: I have been trying to find the accepted practise for mapping traffic lights where dual carriageways interest. There is much discussion on various sites, but most seems to

Re: [talk-au] traffic lights on dual carriageway intersections

2012-11-03 Thread Alex Sims
On 3/11/2012 5:33 PM, John Henderson wrote: I checked some intersections in Melbourne’s CBD, and the method I saw that I liked and thought the best was where there were 4 lights at the intersection, but they were not placed on the intersecting modes, but one node back “upstream” on each way. I

Re: [talk-au] traffic lights on dual carriageway intersections

2012-11-03 Thread Ian Sergeant
On 03/11/12 18:03, John Henderson wrote: 2. It's the accurate representation of what's on the ground. It lets us convey the significance of the stop lines associated with the lights. That's something we can't do with two-way traffic without compromising point 1. Mapping is choosing a

Re: [talk-au] traffic lights on dual carriageway intersections

2012-11-03 Thread John Henderson
On 04/11/12 07:29, Ian Sergeant wrote: By choosing to place traffic light not on the intersection node, you are failing to represent that this is an intersection of two roads, controlled by traffic signals. Instead you are choosing to represent There is a stop line here and traffic signal and

[talk-au] 4WD only tags

2012-11-03 Thread Li Xia
Hi David, just my 2 cents on 4WD_only tags. By adding a 4x4 recommended tag will add to the complexity because it's kind of subjective as to which roads/tracks are traversable in a 2WD vehicle, therefor adding another option for this key will further complicate the issue. Li.

Re: [talk-au] 4WD only tags

2012-11-03 Thread David Bannon
  Li, I beg to differ. While I agree that grading of a 4x4 track is subjective, so is much of the other data in the OSM database. Must be that way. The real issue is how important the data is. As I have mentioned, I am concerned that maps are being rendered that ignore this data. Routing engines

Re: [talk-au] 4WD only tags

2012-11-03 Thread Stephen Hope
David, When we first proposed (and started using) the 4wd_only tag, there was a lot of pushback from people who complained that it was not a verifiable tag. Track type had the same response. We were able to show them that there are signs all over Australia that say 4WD only at the start of a

[Talk-br] Progresso remapeamento IBGE

2012-11-03 Thread Vitor Sessak
Olá, Para quem não seguiu as últimas mensagens da lista sobre esse assunto, o traçado no OSM de várias estradas do Brasil foram criadas em 2009 à partir de dados do IBGE. Infelizmente, esses traçados tem uma precisão péssima: não é raro achar vias distantes de centenas de metros da sua posição

[Talk-de] Operation Cowboy - 23.-25.11

2012-11-03 Thread Matthias Meißer
Guten Morgen liebe Liste, ich möchte die Gelegenheit nutzen, um euch auf den Nachfolger der NOTLM-Party bekannt zu geben: Operation Cowboy http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Operation_cowboy Ja, ihr vermutet richtig, diesmal geht es um Amerika :) Sie wird Ende des Monats stattfinden und

Re: [Talk-de] wie machen die das?

2012-11-03 Thread Sven Geggus
Manfred A. Reiter ma.rei...@gmail.com wrote: Warum kann ich das nicht mit OSM haben? Eventuell weil OSM in erster Linie ein Projekt zur Sammlung von Geodaten ist und eben kein kostenfreier Ersatz für Google maps? Ich bin es ehrlich gesagt langsam leid Postings in der Art Google kann das und

Re: [Talk-de] Operation Cowboy - 23.-25.11

2012-11-03 Thread malenki
Matthias Meißer schrieb: 1. *FOSSGIS Sponsoring* Ich hatte die zwar kontaktiert, aber es kam keine Antwort. Könnte da jemand nachhaken, ob die ein zweites Mal noch etwas Geld für die Parties spenden könnten? Wenn nicht, würde jemand probieren (OSM-/GIS-)Firmen dafür zu gewinnen? (gerne auch das

Re: [Talk-de] wie machen die das?

2012-11-03 Thread Angie
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Am 03.11.2012 12:44, schrieb Sven Geggus: Manfred A. Reiter ma.rei...@gmail.com wrote: Warum kann ich das nicht mit OSM haben? Freie Software entsteht nunmal nicht durch Bussinesspläne und schon gar nicht dadurch, dass jemand auf OSM Listen

Re: [Talk-de] wie machen die das?

2012-11-03 Thread Peter
Am 02.11.2012 16:16, schrieb Manfred A. Reiter: ein guter Freund von mir OSer mit Leib und Seele, seine Frau eine Bienenfreundin kommt zu mir und klagt http://www.friendsofthebees.org/bee-friendly-zones-map/ Warum kann ich das nicht mit OSM haben? Wieso sollte man das nicht mit OSM machen

Re: [Talk-de] wie machen die das?

2012-11-03 Thread Hartmut Holzgraefe
On 02.11.2012 16:16, Manfred A. Reiter wrote: ein guter Freund von mir OSer mit Leib und Seele, seine Frau eine Bienenfreundin kommt zu mir und klagt http://www.friendsofthebees.org/bee-friendly-zones-map/ Warum kann ich das nicht mit OSM haben? was genau wäre denn das? * Einfach nur OSM

Re: [Talk-de] wie machen die das?

2012-11-03 Thread Manfred A. Reiter
Lieber Sven, Am 3. November 2012 12:44 schrieb Sven Geggus li...@fuchsschwanzdomain.de: Manfred A. Reiter ma.rei...@gmail.com wrote: Warum kann ich das nicht mit OSM haben? Eventuell weil OSM in erster Linie ein Projekt zur Sammlung von Geodaten ist und eben kein kostenfreier Ersatz für

Re: [Talk-de] wie machen die das?

2012-11-03 Thread Benjamin Lebsanft
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hallo Manfred, wenn du dir meine Antwort angesehen hast, die ja in etwa das macht was du willst, dann denke ich dass Simone der beste Ansprechpartner dafür ist. Grafiken austauschen und das Clustering ändern, dann passt das. Liebe Grüße Benjamin

Re: [Talk-de] wie machen die das?

2012-11-03 Thread Manfred A. Reiter
Hallo Peter, Am 3. November 2012 18:08 schrieb Peter peter@gmx.net: Am 02.11.2012 16:16, schrieb Manfred A. Reiter: ein guter Freund von mir OSer mit Leib und Seele, seine Frau eine Bienenfreundin kommt zu mir und klagt

Re: [Talk-de] wie machen die das?

2012-11-03 Thread Tobias Knerr
Am 03.11.2012 12:44, schrieb Sven Geggus: Ich bin es ehrlich gesagt langsam leid Postings in der Art Google kann das und das, warum können wir das nicht zu lesen. Und ich bin es leid, dass eine Frage, ein Bugreport oder ein Featurerequest als dreiste Forderung oder persönliche Kränkung

Re: [Talk-de] wie machen die das?

2012-11-03 Thread Gehling Marc
Am 03.11.2012 um 19:12 schrieb Tobias Knerr o...@tobias-knerr.de: Am 03.11.2012 12:44, schrieb Sven Geggus: Ich bin es ehrlich gesagt langsam leid Postings in der Art Google kann das und das, warum können wir das nicht zu lesen. Und ich bin es leid, dass eine Frage, ein Bugreport oder ein

Re: [Talk-de] Wasserpfeifen Lounge taggen

2012-11-03 Thread Jimmy_K
Am 02.11.2012 15:34, schrieb René Falk: Hallo zusammen, hat hier schon mal jemand eine Shisha Lounge eingetragen? Shisha = Wasserpfeife Meist ein Zwischending aus Cafe und Bar plus Konsumierung von Wasserpfeifen. Beispiele wären schön. Grüße René

Re: [Talk-de] Wasserpfeifen Lounge taggen

2012-11-03 Thread Stephan Knauss
On 03.11.2012 20:57, Jimmy_K wrote: Gibt es noch nicht viele eingetragenen. Am ehesten findet man noch die Eintragungskombination Amenity=bar; shisha=yes (oder in Amerika hookah=yes). Drückt es halt generell ein wenig schlecht aus. Verglichen mit Smoking=yes, würde es nur bedeuten, dass sie

Re: [Talk-cz] czechia geonames

2012-11-03 Thread Tomáš Kratina
Pokud bude prezidentem Okamura tak uz Ceskou Republiku na mapa nenajde nikdo :D Vseci budou hledat Czechia nekde v asii :D 2012/11/3 Tomáš Kratina t.krat...@gmail.com: Prave proto, ze je malo pouzivany si myslim, ze je absolutne nevhodny. Navic to zni hodne divne :D 2012/11/3 Marek Prokop

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Comment marquer les voies bus en site propre ?

2012-11-03 Thread Rainer Kluge
Bonjour, 02/11/2012 23:46 Frantz: Il y a actuellement 2 marquages en guerre sur ces tracés : 1) highway=bus_guideway / access=no / psv=yes (les 2 derniers sont redondants avec le premier je pense) 2) highway=service / access=no / psv=yes Le highway=bus_guideway me semble plus destiné à des

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] probleme de bief

2012-11-03 Thread Ista Pouss
Finalement, dans OSM, le bief ne s'appelle nulle part... bief. C'est voulu, c'est génant, c'est normal, c'est discuté, c'est fait exprès, j'ai mal compris ?... Le 3 novembre 2012 00:15, PierreV belett...@hotmail.fr a écrit : Bonsoir, Je ne connais pas trop les marais bretons... mais je

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Comment marquer les voies bus en site propre ?

2012-11-03 Thread Tetsuo Shima
J'ai le meme souci avec le bus a haut niveau de service de Metz ... et pour le moment j'ai rien trouvé de tres satisfaisant. De plus parfois le site propre est tellement juxtaposé a la chaussée voiture que ce n'est pas évident de tracer une voie parallèle, meme s'il y un gros trottoir entre les

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] probleme de bief

2012-11-03 Thread Sylvain Maillard
Le 3 novembre 2012 09:21, Ista Pouss ista...@gmail.com a écrit : Finalement, dans OSM, le bief ne s'appelle nulle part... bief. C'est voulu, c'est génant, c'est normal, c'est discuté, c'est fait exprès, j'ai mal compris ?... C'est que dans OSM les tags servent pour décrire les usages,

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Comment marquer les voies bus en site propre ?

2012-11-03 Thread J.-Lys
Effectivement, bus_guideway désigne une voie réservée à des bus intégralement guidés, il en existe (ou a existé) en Allemagne, en G-B, en Australie. En France, le réseau de Douai voulait utiliser ce mode de transport, mais leur véhicule n'a pas été homologué en mode guidé et ce qu'ils appellent

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] probleme de bief

2012-11-03 Thread Ista Pouss
Le 3 novembre 2012 10:37, Sylvain Maillard sylvain.maill...@gmail.com a écrit : C'est que dans OSM les tags servent pour décrire les usages, peut-importe le nom donné dans la classification locale ! sinon, comment faire une carte des biefs au niveau européen, avec pas le même mot utilisé en

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Nouvelles données RATP

2012-11-03 Thread Frédéric Rodrigo
Les données sont maintenant disponibles à l'intégration dans OSM : http://osmose.openstreetmap.fr/map/?zoom=16lat=48.82486lon=2.30252layers=B000FFTitem=8040,8041level=1,2,3 Si c'est trop la pagaille au niveau des bus je peux réduire la distance de conflation, elle est de 100m

[OSM-talk-fr] enseigne à l'entrée d'une entreprise (comment taguer une ...)

2012-11-03 Thread Florian LAINEZ
salut, je me demande comment tagguer une enseigne à l'entrée d'une entreprise. Exemple : http://www.rfi.fr/actufr/images/052/enseigne_google220.jpg j'ai trouvé sur le wiki ( https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/FR:Key:advertising) le tag * advertising=sign* mais il ne plaît pas car c'est une

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] enseigne à l'entrée d'une entreprise (comment taguer une ...)

2012-11-03 Thread Marc Sibert
Le 03/11/2012 12:30, Florian LAINEZ a écrit : salut, je me demande comment tagguer une enseigne à l'entrée d'une entreprise. Exemple : http://www.rfi.fr/actufr/images/052/enseigne_google220.jpg j'ai trouvé sur le wiki (https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/FR:Key:advertising) le tag

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] enseigne à l'entrée d'une entreprise (comment taguer une ...)

2012-11-03 Thread panierAvide
Le 03/11/2012 13:00, Marc Sibert a écrit : Sinon, sérieusement, je dirais que l'on ne tague pas le panneau, mais ce qu'il annonce : on ne tague pas la plaque de rue, mais la rue elle-même, on en tague pas l'enseigne d'un magasin, mais ça surface ou son entrée ;-) Pas forcément, on peut taguer

[OSM-talk-fr] role de ces tags ?

2012-11-03 Thread Jean-François Gaffard
bonjour si vous éditez http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=47.60681lon=6.47519zoom=17layers=M sur la D 265 il y a des points taggués JOSM avec ele et time. Est-ce que cela correspond à l'altitude. Dans ce cas il ne faut pas les bouger. Est-ce

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] role de ces tags ?

2012-11-03 Thread Francescu GAROBY
'ele' correspond en effet à l'altitude, comme l'explique sa page sur le wikihttp://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/FR:Key:ele. Par contre, le tag 'time' semble plus être un reliquat de la trace GPS, et n'a, selon moi, rien à faire ici... Francescu Le 3 novembre 2012 14:57, Jean-François Gaffard

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] role de ces tags ?

2012-11-03 Thread Etienne Trimaille
Voici un des objets en question pour les flemmards curieux : http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/node/2103533 Je rencontre quelques fois certains nodes comme celui-ci. Il s'agit en effet d'une vielle trace GPS (en juillet 2005) converti en .osm et uploadé sur OSM en mai 2006. Le script .gpx =

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] role de ces tags ?

2012-11-03 Thread Clément Stenac
Même à la version 1 de l'objet, la précision de la mesure n'est pas très utilisable à mon avis. Le nombre de décimale me fait sourire. Et puis rien me dit que l’altimètre du GPS (pas la mesure de l'altitude par GPS) était bien étalonné. Bref, j'accorde vraiment aucune qualité à ce tag ele

[OSM-talk-fr] faux positifs sur osmose

2012-11-03 Thread PierreV
Bonjour C'est pour savoir ce qui est fait des faux positifs annoncés sur Osmose concernant les monuments, poste, école... Est-ce qu'ils sont analysés manuellement pour être placés au bon endroit? Est-ce qu'il y a un tableau de ceux qui n'ont pas été replacés? Bref, qu'est ce qui est fait une

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Comment marquer les voies bus en site propre ?

2012-11-03 Thread Pieren
2012/11/3 J.-Lys jacq...@famille-lys.com: Au vue de la description du tag bus_guideway, je pencherais aussi pour highway=service + access Pieren ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr

[OSM-talk-fr] Avocats, médecins, et autres plaques sur les porches

2012-11-03 Thread Francescu GAROBY
Bonjour, Peut-on tagguer les diverses professions libérales qui ont pour habitude de poser une plaque dorée à leur porche ? Je pense que oui, dans la mesure où il s'agit d'une profession, et non d'une atteinte à la vie privée, même quand le nom apparait sur la plaque, mais je tenais à en être sûr.

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] probleme de bief

2012-11-03 Thread Pieren
2012/11/2 Sylvain Maillard sylvain.maill...@gmail.com: il faudrait effectivement ajouter également d'autres tags pour préciser. Je mettrais: waterway=canal service=water_power boat=no et éventuellement width= Il faut voir à quoi correspond son bief sur le terrain. Je n'utiliserais pas

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] probleme de bief

2012-11-03 Thread Tetsuo Shima
Wiktionary donne trois sens a Bief, ca réconcilie tout le monde. 1Portion d’un canal de navigation on d’une rivière canalisée comprise entre deux écluses, deux barrages ou deux chutes. Le bief supérieur, le bief inférieur d’un canal. 2 Canal de dérivation. 3 Canal conduisant l’eau sur

[OSM-talk-fr] Comment tagguer les services d'aide à domicile ?

2012-11-03 Thread Francescu GAROBY
(re-)Bonjour, Je n'arrive pas à trouver comment tagguer les services d'aide à domicile (appelés aussi aides à la personne). Je ne parle pas des soins regroupés sous le tag 'social_facility', mais de choses moins vitales : devoirs scolaires, ménages/repassages, ... (Le but étant de tagguer les

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] role de ces tags ?

2012-11-03 Thread Jean-Claude Repetto
On 03/11/2012 15:41, Clément Stenac wrote: A part en zone urbaine (et peut être dans une forêt) où les batiments (et les arbres) peuvent gêner le radar, est-ce que le tag ele sert vraiment, raisonnablement, sachant que les données d'élévation SRTM sont disponibles librement sur l'intégralité

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] role de ces tags ?

2012-11-03 Thread Etienne Trimaille
En effet, SRTM n'est pas précis. Mais les tags ele en question ci-dessus ne le sont pas non plus à mon avis. Par contre, le tag ele est en effet indispensable pour les sommets, les points remarquables, ... Je note toutes les altitudes dans OSM lors de mes randonnée pédestre quand je rencontre ce

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] role de ces tags ?

2012-11-03 Thread Pierre Béland
Il ne faut pas oublier que les usages des données OSM sont variés. Les données d'élévation sont utiles plus particulièrement pour les cyclistes et les randonneurs. Et il faut penser à des informations synthétiques et pertinentes pour l'affichage sur des GPS de randonnée. En randonnée, le GPS

[OSM-talk-fr] Outil de suivi des objets qu on a edite

2012-11-03 Thread THEVENON Julien
Bonjour, Depuis quelques temps je developpe un logiciel d analyse de diff OSM. Une des applications qui m a paru interessante etait de suivre les modifications effectuees par d autres contributeurs sur des objets que j ai cree ou modifie. J ai un prototype qui commence a marcher, il n est pas

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] probleme de bief

2012-11-03 Thread monsieur a
Moi je tag bief=steack Ok, je sort :-) Le 3 nov. 2012 17:50, Tetsuo Shima tets...@gmail.com a écrit : Wiktionary donne trois sens a Bief, ca réconcilie tout le monde. 1Portion d’un canal de navigation on d’une rivière canalisée comprise entre deux écluses, deux barrages ou deux chutes.

[OSM-ja] 気象用レーダ

2012-11-03 Thread ribbon
というのがあるんですが、これ、どうタグづけましょう? 一応 man_made = tower にはしておきましたが oota ___ Talk-ja mailing list Talk-ja@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ja

Re: [Talk-GB] Request: Norfolk Broads National Park Boundary

2012-11-03 Thread Ed Loach
I've not looked at OS Strategi, but the Natural England datasets are now OGL licenced and they contain the national park boundaries, and I think are better resolution. http://www.naturalengland.org.uk/publications/data/default.aspx Ed -Original Message- From: Robert Norris

Re: [Talk-GB] Request: Norfolk Broads National Park Boundary

2012-11-03 Thread Robert Norris
I've downloaded the some of the data sets and fired up qgis. So, yes the Natural England datasets are a better resolution for National Parks. Be Seeing You - Rob. If at first you don't succeed, then skydiving isn't for you. From: e...@loach.me.uk

Re: [Talk-GB] Request: Norfolk Broads National Park Boundary

2012-11-03 Thread Rob Nickerson
Yep, the Natural England datasets are of good quality. Just one word of warning the Local Nature Reserves data is not OGL licensed so cannot be used. All others are ok for use in OSM - I'm slowing doing Millennium Greens working from the North down one by one so not as to mess up any existing data

Re: [Talk-us] Difficult USA mapper(s)

2012-11-03 Thread Jeff Meyer
On Fri, Nov 2, 2012 at 9:26 PM, Russ Nelson nel...@crynwr.com wrote: Martijn van Exel writes: 1) I don't think it is a good idea to come up with a code of conduct as a response to particular cases. Hard cases make bad law, yes. But it's not a difficult decision to say Don't change other

Re: [Talk-us] Difficult USA mapper(s)

2012-11-03 Thread Russ Nelson
Anthony writes: I agree that DWG has the authority to act, here. But as I understand it, the authority of DWG comes from OSMF, not from the OSM community. The DWG is specifically asking if it should have the authority to act. Please read the beginning message of this thread. Additionally,

Re: [Talk-us] Difficult USA mapper(s)

2012-11-03 Thread Russ Nelson
Jeff Meyer writes: - An overarching code of behavior could be very helpful to empower the less aggressive mapper. Maybe something simple like: Pursue the truth agreement do no harm. It gives the oppressed some simple question to ask the difficult mapper. Each of the segments of the code

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