Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Houses of cards

2008-02-21 Thread SteveC
On 21 Feb 2008, at 11:42, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Quoting SteveC [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On 21 Feb 2008, at 08:47, Rob Myers wrote: - I have violated the contract but I am completely anonymous and untraceable. Nobody can find out who I am to do anything about this. And OSM would want

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] transitive contracts

2008-02-21 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, On 20.02.2008, at 20:37, Frederik Ramm wrote: Hm. Suppose we used a restrictive copyleft license lice the ODL, but at the same time said that 12 months after being last edited, we release stuff into the public domain. [...] Maybe we can find a compromise along these lines. No

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Houses of cards

2008-02-21 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Frederik Ramm wrote: To me at least, it seems obvious what Rob says. If you have something that is not copyrighted, and you give it someone [A] under a contract, and that person breaches te contract and publishes the data, then whatever you gave him is up for grabs by anyone [B] as they're

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Houses of cards

2008-02-21 Thread Gervase Markham
Frederik Ramm wrote: [1] even more theoretical aside: maybe we should dual-license to also say we'll sell you full non-exclusive rights to planet.osm for £5,000 a node ;) I have a feeling that Rob can't be bought. I'm pro-copyleft and I'd support this :-) It's clear it would be more money

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Houses of cards

2008-02-21 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, I'm a bit confused. Isn't that situation, in US jurisdiction, a problem with any copyleft license that would be adopted? I can do this with gpl software, too. I can download the linux kernel, take away the license notices and then sell it to someone to use in a proprietary product.

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] transitive contracts

2008-02-21 Thread A Morris
Geographical features simply don't change very often. I don't think the fact that the data is one year old would discourage someone from copying stuff into their own proprietary dataset. Aled. On Thu, Feb 21, 2008 at 2:13 PM, Frederik Ramm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, No comments on that by

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] transitive contracts

2008-02-21 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, What would be lost if someone copied the February 2007 planet into their own proprietary dataset today? The principle of share-alike. Ah, the good old mantra I won't give you anything unless you give me something in return. Fair enough, it's the base pillar of commerce. And

[OSM-talk] Way doesn't appear

2008-02-21 Thread Listas
Hello, I wait for a week to see my first trace. The trace should appear here: http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=42.29056lon=-8.66194zoom=15 For now, I can't see anything only I see something here: http://www.openstreetmap.org/edit.html?lat=42.2904lon=-8.67593zoom=15 What could be the problem

Re: [OSM-talk] Way doesn't appear

2008-02-21 Thread Nick Whitelegg
Hello Listas, The maps are rendered every week. If you go to www.informationfreeway.org, which uses the [EMAIL PROTECTED] project, maps are rendered more frequently. Nick ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org

Re: [OSM-talk] Way doesn't appear

2008-02-21 Thread Dirk-Lüder Kreie
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Listas schrieb: Hello, I wait for a week to see my first trace. The trace should appear here: http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=42.29056lon=-8.66194zoom=15 For now, I can't see anything only I see something here:

Re: [OSM-talk] Way doesn't appear

2008-02-21 Thread Listas
Nick Whitelegg escribió: Hello Listas, The maps are rendered every week. If you go to www.informationfreeway.org, which uses the [EMAIL PROTECTED] project, maps are rendered more frequently. Nick Yes, but I trace this way last week, on tuesday or wednesday .. when is it updated ? I

Re: [OSM-talk] Way doesn't appear

2008-02-21 Thread Andy Robinson (blackadder)
Listas wrote: Sent: 21 February 2008 8:51 AM To: talk@openstreetmap.org Subject: [OSM-talk] Way doesn't appear Hello, I wait for a week to see my first trace. The trace should appear here: http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=42.29056lon=-8.66194zoom=15 For now, I can't see anything only I see

Re: [OSM-talk] Continuous audio in JOSM on tracks without waypoints

2008-02-21 Thread John McKerrell
Yes, this sounds great. I don't tend to log explicit waypoints so this is going to be much more useful for me. Did you think about having a little arrow or some sort of marker that followed the trace as you played the audio or is there some specific reason that this would not be possible?

[OSM-talk] Never run out of batteries again!

2008-02-21 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Looks interesting: http://www.ikonglobal.com/ http://www.treehugger.com/files/2005/03/pedal_power.php cheers Richard ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] Osmarender Layer=5, POI and the XSLT

2008-02-21 Thread Stuart
Thanks Dodi I sort of assumed that a default level of 3 e.g. would have left a bit of flexibility for something even more important. I suppose by that stage there is nothing to add so text etc might as well go as high as possible. I'm hoping to learn more about the osmarender.xsl and POI. I

Re: [OSM-talk] Never run out of batteries again!

2008-02-21 Thread Andy Robinson (blackadder)
Richard Fairhurst wrote: Sent: 21 February 2008 10:01 AM To: talk@openstreetmap.org Subject: [OSM-talk] Never run out of batteries again! Looks interesting: http://www.ikonglobal.com/ http://www.treehugger.com/files/2005/03/pedal_power.php I remember those rim running dynamos on my bike as a

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Attempt to clarify

2008-02-21 Thread SteveC
On 20 Feb 2008, at 22:01, Frederik Ramm wrote: Hi, I might therefore conclude (and stop me if my logic is faulty) that the only reason for someone to propose Option 1 over Option 2 on the basis of it won't work is because they actually have a principled objection to the

Re: [OSM-talk] Way doesn't appear

2008-02-21 Thread Listas
Andy Robinson (blackadder) escribió: Listas wrote: Sent: 21 February 2008 8:51 AM To: talk@openstreetmap.org Subject: [OSM-talk] Way doesn't appear Hello, I wait for a week to see my first trace. The trace should appear here:

Re: [OSM-talk] Way doesn't appear

2008-02-21 Thread Tom Hughes
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nick Whitelegg escribió: The maps are rendered every week. If you go to www.informationfreeway.org, which uses the [EMAIL PROTECTED] project, maps are rendered more frequently. Yes, but I trace this way last week, on tuesday or

Re: [OSM-talk] [SPAM: 3.000] Way doesn't appear

2008-02-21 Thread Steve Chilton
You just need to be a little patient. There are a lot of tiles to render each week from the weekly dump. If you zoom out you will see it starting to appear at different zooms as the renderer works through its task: http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=42.291lon=-8.662zoom=11layers=B0FT Cheers STEVE

Re: [OSM-talk] Never run out of batteries again!

2008-02-21 Thread Tom Hughes
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jonas Svensson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 21 Feb 2008, Andy Robinson (blackadder) wrote: I remember those rim running dynamos on my bike as a kid. I hated them because they made a load of noise and you could really feel the resistance. It amazes me

Re: [OSM-talk] Never run out of batteries again!

2008-02-21 Thread Andy Robinson (blackadder)
Tom Hughes wrote: Sent: 21 February 2008 10:29 AM To: talk@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Never run out of batteries again! In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jonas Svensson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 21 Feb 2008, Andy Robinson (blackadder) wrote: I remember those rim

Re: [OSM-talk] Never run out of batteries again!

2008-02-21 Thread Andy Robinson (blackadder)
Tom Hughes wrote: Sent: 21 February 2008 10:29 AM To: talk@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Never run out of batteries again! In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jonas Svensson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 21 Feb 2008, Andy Robinson (blackadder) wrote: I remember

Re: [OSM-talk] Never run out of batteries again!

2008-02-21 Thread Dirk-Lüder Kreie
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Jonas Svensson schrieb: There are better solutions, at least for the bikes headlight. I do not know what the name is in english but the generator is mounted in the center of the wheel. Can't feel the resistance and it won't clog up by snow. See

Re: [OSM-talk] Never run out of batteries again!

2008-02-21 Thread Lambertus
Andy Robinson (blackadder) wrote: Richard Fairhurst wrote: Looks interesting: http://www.ikonglobal.com/ http://www.treehugger.com/files/2005/03/pedal_power.php I remember those rim running dynamos on my bike as a kid. I hated them because they made a load of noise and you could really

Re: [OSM-talk] Continuous audio in JOSM on tracks without waypoints

2008-02-21 Thread David Earl
On 21/02/2008 09:26, John McKerrell wrote: Yes, this sounds great. I don't tend to log explicit waypoints so this is going to be much more useful for me. Did you think about having a little arrow or some sort of marker that followed the trace as you played the audio or is there some

Re: [OSM-talk] Continuous audio in JOSM on tracks without waypoints

2008-02-21 Thread Andy Robinson (blackadder)
David Earl wrote: Sent: 21 February 2008 10:31 AM To: John McKerrell Cc: OSM Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Continuous audio in JOSM on tracks without waypoints On 21/02/2008 09:26, John McKerrell wrote: Yes, this sounds great. I don't tend to log explicit waypoints so this is going to be much more

Re: [OSM-talk] Never run out of batteries again!

2008-02-21 Thread Jo
Richard Fairhurst wrote: Looks interesting: http://www.ikonglobal.com/ http://www.treehugger.com/files/2005/03/pedal_power.php cheers Richard I bought a solar powered charger for 1,2 V NiMH AA batteries from ANSMANN. It can charge all my USB devices and the Sony Ericsson phone. It can

Re: [OSM-talk] Never run out of batteries again!

2008-02-21 Thread Lambertus
Robert (Jamie) Munro wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Richard Fairhurst wrote: | Looks interesting: | | http://www.ikonglobal.com/ | http://www.treehugger.com/files/2005/03/pedal_power.php I want one that has loads of resistance, but only engages when I pull the

Re: [OSM-talk] Using an extract from OSM in an academic paper

2008-02-21 Thread Richard Fairhurst
David Cottingham wrote: - Can I, despite the fact that the images I create that utilise OSM data are classed as derived works and hence the images should be dsitributed under the CC-SA license (correct me if I'm wrong!), still publish those images in a paper whose copyright will be owned by

Re: [OSM-talk] Never run out of batteries again!

2008-02-21 Thread Simon Hewison
Andy Robinson (blackadder) wrote: I remember those rim running dynamos on my bike as a kid. I hated them because they made a load of noise and you could really feel the resistance. It amazes me that nobody has come up with a simpler and more efficient solution. I've got one of these:

Re: [OSM-talk] Using an extract from OSM in an academic paper

2008-02-21 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, - Can I, despite the fact that the images I create that utilise OSM data are classed as derived works and hence the images should be dsitributed under the CC-SA license (correct me if I'm wrong!), still publish those images in a paper whose copyright will be owned by the publisher?

Re: [OSM-talk] Using an extract from OSM in an academic paper

2008-02-21 Thread David Cottingham
Hi Phillip, On Thu, 21 Feb 2008, Barnett, Phillip wrote: As I understand it, while the copyright of the paper as a whole is owned by the publisher, an image which uses OSM data will be copyright OSM, True. not the publisher. Not really so unusual, open any newspaper or magazine and look at

Re: [OSM-talk] Continuous audio in JOSM on tracks without waypoints

2008-02-21 Thread Alex S.
Andy Robinson (blackadder) wrote: You might think about the format of the moving marker. Perhaps selected by a user preference. Say a stick man, bike or car :-D Why not auto select by apparent speed? ;) ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org

Re: [OSM-talk] Continuous audio in JOSM on tracks without waypoints

2008-02-21 Thread David Earl
On 21/02/2008 09:26, John McKerrell wrote: Yes, this sounds great. I don't tend to log explicit waypoints so this is going to be much more useful for me. Did you think about having a little arrow or some sort of marker that followed the trace as you played the audio or is there some

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM flyer

2008-02-21 Thread Christoph Eckert
Hi, I don't really know where (in an ideal world) Scribus would fit in the toolchain. Would you write your text with OO and make your bitmaps with the Gimp and vector graphics with Inkscape and then use Scribus to put it all together? OO is a word processor, Inkscape is a vector drawing

Re: [OSM-talk] Never run out of batteries again!

2008-02-21 Thread Christoph Eckert
Hi, In the Netherlands most new streetbikes are equiped with a wheelhub dynamo which solves your annoyances: no noise, no noticable resistance. And another plus: they're always enabled, so instant light in a tunnel (with a light sensor in your headlight). Because shimano europe returns 503

Re: [OSM-talk] Never run out of batteries again!

2008-02-21 Thread Patrick Weber
German C't Magazine had an article a couple of months ago about how to keep a PDA/GPS charged with a hub dynamo while cycling. They basically showed you how to construct a buffer battery and electronics for it, that can fit into the seat tube. I dont know if there a English translation, the

Re: [OSM-talk] Continuous audio in JOSM on tracks without waypoints

2008-02-21 Thread John McKerrell
On 21 Feb 2008, at 19:04, David Earl wrote: On 21/02/2008 09:26, John McKerrell wrote: Yes, this sounds great. I don't tend to log explicit waypoints so this is going to be much more useful for me. Did you think about having a little arrow or some sort of marker that followed the

Re: [OSM-talk] Continuous audio in JOSM on tracks without waypoints

2008-02-21 Thread Andy Robinson (blackadder)
Alex S. wrote: Sent: 21 February 2008 7:09 PM To: talk@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Continuous audio in JOSM on tracks without waypoints Andy Robinson (blackadder) wrote: You might think about the format of the moving marker. Perhaps selected by a user preference. Say a stick man,

Re: [OSM-talk] Continuous audio in JOSM on tracks without waypoints

2008-02-21 Thread Andy Robinson (blackadder)
David Earl wrote: Sent: 21 February 2008 7:04 PM To: John McKerrell Cc: OSM Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Continuous audio in JOSM on tracks without waypoints On 21/02/2008 09:26, John McKerrell wrote: Yes, this sounds great. I don't tend to log explicit waypoints so this is going to be much more

Re: [OSM-talk] Using an extract from OSM in an academic paper

2008-02-21 Thread Iván Sánchez Ortega
El Jueves, 21 de Febrero de 2008, David Cottingham escribió: I'm using OSM data as part of my research, and one of the resulting papers that I'm in the process of writing will have some images that combine a small amount of OSM data [...] In european-like jurisdictions, you get an exception

Re: [OSM-talk] Raw GPS layer

2008-02-21 Thread Gregory
In particular, its very easy for JOSM users to trace from GPX files but then never upload them. In the past I've banged on about the importance of people identifying the source of their contributions. If the source is a track log then it really ought to be compulsory to upload that track

Re: [OSM-talk] Raw GPS layer

2008-02-21 Thread 80n
On Thu, Feb 21, 2008 at 11:40 PM, Frederik Ramm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, In particular, its very easy for JOSM users to trace from GPX files but then never upload them. I think we should provide a track upload facility within JOSM. I started work on that once but got

Re: [OSM-talk] Continuous audio in JOSM on tracks without waypoints

2008-02-21 Thread David Earl
On 21/02/2008 20:59, John McKerrell wrote: On 21 Feb 2008, at 19:04, David Earl wrote: On 21/02/2008 09:26, John McKerrell wrote: Yes, this sounds great. I don't tend to log explicit waypoints so this is going to be much more useful for me. Did you think about having a little arrow or

Re: [OSM-talk] Continuous audio in JOSM on tracks without waypoints

2008-02-21 Thread Robin Paulson
On 22/02/2008, David Earl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Funnily enough, the first time I tried audio tracing I just assumed there was something like this available, so when I came to use my audio I realised that all my post box on the left NOW, bus stop on the right... NOW was fairly

Re: [OSM-talk] Raw GPS layer

2008-02-21 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, Does anyone have any stats on number of edits vs. number of tracklogs by user? It might be quite revealing about who does and who doesn't upload their tracklogs (coastline uploaders and serial Yahoo! tracers excepted, of course). If such statistics are compiled, may I

Re: [OSM-talk] Continuous audio in JOSM on tracks without waypoints

2008-02-21 Thread David Earl
On 21/02/2008 23:56, David Earl wrote: One thing I realised just cycling along this evening, having stepped back from the project for a while, is that when you don't have a waypoint at the start it is hard to synchronise on a marker, because it they are sampled, not related to any specific

Re: [OSM-talk] Raw GPS layer

2008-02-21 Thread J.D. Schmidt
80n skrev: At the moment we are not signalling clearly enough that *every* track log is valuable to the project, even for places that have already been mapped. Does anyone have any stats on number of edits vs. number of tracklogs by user? It might be quite revealing about who does and who

Re: [OSM-talk] Raw GPS layer

2008-02-21 Thread Juan Lucas Dominguez Rubio
When you say track log you mean a GPX file? It's very easy to convert a SHP file into a GPX file. I have done it myself many times, so the existence of such GPX file proves nothing. Am I misunderstanding the whole thing? :-/ Cheers, Lucas De: [EMAIL

Re: [OSM-talk-nl] GPS-coordinaten van fietsknooppunten Noord-Brabant

2008-02-21 Thread Gert Gremmen
Ik zou melden dat de betreffende routes ongetwijfeld door onze vrijwilligers zullen worden gefietst, en zodoende met vertraging toch in onze fietsroute database belanden. Ik denk niet dat men copyright heeft op de route zelf ? Toch alleen op de gps coördinaten ? Of vergis ik mij daarin ? Gert

Re: [OSM-talk-nl] GPS-coordinaten van fietsknooppunten Noord-Brabant

2008-02-21 Thread Joris Meijerink
Dit kreeg ik terug van BBT. Jammer, maar dit is natuurlijk nog niet het laatste. Ik wil nog een mailtje sturen met het idee dat we elkaar, juist in het up to date houden, kunnen versterken enz.enz.. Ook is het voor ons natuurlijk mogelijk updates te verwerken. Nog meer punten die ik zou kunnen

Re: [OSM-talk-nl] GPS-coordinaten van fietsknooppunten Noord-Brabant

2008-02-21 Thread Jo
Joris Meijerink wrote: Dit kreeg ik terug van BBT. Jammer, maar dit is natuurlijk nog niet het laatste. Ik wil nog een mailtje sturen met het idee dat we elkaar, juist in het up to date houden, kunnen versterken enz.enz.. Ook is het voor ons natuurlijk mogelijk updates te verwerken. Nog

Re: [OSM-talk-nl] GPS-coordinaten van fietsknooppunten Noord-Brabant

2008-02-21 Thread Lambertus
Klinkt als een excuus om de gegevens niet te willen geven. Het zou me verbazen als aandringen wel tot vrijgave leidt. Maargoed, je zou aan kunnen voeren dat AND de data aan OSM heeft geschonken juist omdat ze verwachten dat de kwaliteit van hun data erdoor verbeterd wordt. Succes! Joris

[OSM-talk-nl] FW: Fietsroutenetwerk-punten automatiseren?

2008-02-21 Thread Bert Muijtstege
Aha duidelijk via de editfunctie dus.De rest was al bekend, alleen als je het opzet zoals hier [1]krijg je het niet binnen kosmos aan de praat aangezien de nodes alleen een rcn_ref tag hebben.[1] http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Fietsroutes Bert Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008

Re: [OSM-talk-nl] planet files op mirror.openstreetmap.nl

2008-02-21 Thread Lambertus
Is het mogelijk dat de beheerder van deze server hier eens naar gaat kijken? Of is het hele mirror gebeuren afgelopen ofzo? - Original Message - From: Lambertus To: OpenStreetMap NL discussion list Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2008 20:12 Subject: [OSM-talk-nl] planet files op

[Talk-de] Josm - Speicherplatz

2008-02-21 Thread Michael Buchberger
Hi Liste, nachdem mir JOSM mit der Arbeit von einer halben Stunde abgesemmelt ist (Fehlermeldung kein Speicherplatz mehr). (Ja Ja, ich weiss zwischenspeichern) eine Frage an die JOSM-Experten. a) Kann man sich in JOSM den aktuell verbrauchten Speicherplatz anzeigen lassen? b) wie kann ich den

[Talk-de] Anzeige von Karten

2008-02-21 Thread Matthias Blüher
Hallo, ich habe mich gerade bei Openstreetmap angemeldet und habe da eine Frage. Wenn ich mir die Karten für Garmingeräte anschauen möchte bekomme ich nur eine Error Meldung angezeigt . VIIleicht kann mir jemand erklären wie ich mir die Karten anschauen kann?

Re: [Talk-de] Josm - Speicherplatz

2008-02-21 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hallo, a) Kann man sich in JOSM den aktuell verbrauchten Speicherplatz anzeigen lassen? Vermutlich nicht, zumindest nicht so, dass es auf allen Betriebssystemen gut funktioniert. b) wie kann ich den zugewiesenen Speicherplatz erhöhen? Funktioniert so was? java -Xmx1024M -jar josm-latest.jar

[Talk-de] www.openstreetmap.de (was: Anzeige von Karten)

2008-02-21 Thread Sven Geggus
Matthias Blüher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ich habe mich gerade bei Openstreetmap angemeldet und habe da eine Frage. Wenn ich mir die Karten für Garmingeräte anschauen möchte bekomme ich nur eine Error Meldung angezeigt . *argh* wer ist denn für www.openstreetmap.de zuständig? Der Link unter

Re: [Talk-de] Anzeige von Karten

2008-02-21 Thread Matthias Blüher
Hallo Christian, Ich bin über die Startseite von Openstreetmap auf den Link Daten gegangen und habe Karten für Garmin-geräte angeklickt und folgende Meldung erhalten: Objekt nicht gefunden! Der angeforderte URL konnte auf dem Server nicht gefunden werden. Der Link auf der verweisenden Seite

[Talk-de] OSM-Buch lieferbar - Rezensionsexemplare?

2008-02-21 Thread Gerald Oppen
Nachtrag: Wie wäre es den mit einem Versuch bei der BNN (Badische Neuste Nachrichten)? So ein Artikel in der Samstagsausgabe könnte doch auch was bewirken? Jede andere Tageszeitung ging natürlich-aber Karlsruhe als Schöpfungsstadt des Buches würde besonders gut passen... Garry P.S. Die Flyer

Re: [Talk-de] Anzeige von Karten

2008-02-21 Thread Christian Linder
Ja, das hat neulich schon jemand bemäkelt. Ich weiß nicht, wer für die Seite verantwortlich ist. Sollte www.openstreetmap.de nicht einfach auf die deutsche Wiki-Seite verlinken? Für Garmin-Karten probiere mal http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/OSM_Map_On_Garmin/Download oder für Deutschland

Re: [Talk-de] Anzeige von Karten

2008-02-21 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hallo, ich habe mal Deine Karte von Hessen ausprobiert, und festgestellt, dass die Höhenangaben der Höhenlinien nicht stimmen. Bei mir zu Hause kommt die nächstgelegene Höhenlinie auf 43m, es sind aber 140m NN. Der Feldberg im Taunus hat auf Deiner Karte auch anstelle 960m nur 268m.

Re: [Talk-de] openstreetmap.de

2008-02-21 Thread Till Maas
On Wed February 20 2008, Harald Kirsch wrote: durch eine Nebenbemerkung in einem anderen Posting bin ich drauf gekommen, dass es auch http://openstreetmap.de/ gibt.-) Dort sind mir zwei Sachen aufgefallen: Zum einen ist auf der Seite http://www.openstreetmap.de/dateien.html der Link auf

Re: [Talk-de] Anzeige von Karten

2008-02-21 Thread Carsten Schwede
Hallo Christian, ich habe mal Deine Karte von Hessen ausprobiert, und festgestellt, dass die Höhenangaben der Höhenlinien nicht stimmen. Bei mir zu Hause kommt die nächstgelegene Höhenlinie auf 43m, es sind aber 140m NN. Der Feldberg im Taunus hat auf Deiner Karte auch anstelle 960m nur 268m.

Re: [Talk-de] openstreetmap.de

2008-02-21 Thread Christian Linder
Also die Domain ist eingetragen auf Sven Anders. Leider ohne Email. Liest der hier noch mit? Vielleicht könnte man ihn überreden, aus der Seite ein Wiki zu machen oder einfach auf die deutsche Wiki-Seite zu verlinken? Beste Grüße Chrischan 2008/2/20, Harald Kirsch [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hallo,

Re: [Talk-de] highway=living_street = total verbuggt?

2008-02-21 Thread Martin Simon
Am 21.02.08 schrieb Marc Schütz [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Das living_street-Tag ist erst ein/zwei Wochen alt und wird von den Renderern noch nicht unterstützt. Ich selber bin aber auch nicht ganz glücklich damit, dass da ein neuer Wert für das highway-Tag eingeführt wird, statt ein zusätzlicher

Re: [Talk-de] highway=living_street = total verbuggt?

2008-02-21 Thread Marc Schütz
Christopher Dyrlich schrieb: Bevor ich nen Ticket im Bug Tracker dadrüber machen, wollte ich erstmal fragen, ob die Spielstraßen nur bei mir nicht richtig gerendert werden, oder ob das nen generelles Problem zur Zeit ist. Weil wie man hier

Re: [Talk-de] Josm - Speicherplatz

2008-02-21 Thread Sven Grüner
Frederik Ramm schrieb: b) wie kann ich den zugewiesenen Speicherplatz erhöhen? Funktioniert so was? java -Xmx1024M -jar josm-latest.jar Ja, das empfehle ich auch oft ;-) Aha, das bedeutet etwa so viel wie Die Kiste hat 1024MB RAM, nutze sie auch. Wenn ich nur 512 habe kann ich dann analog

[Talk-de] RFC: Administrative Strukturen in Relationen

2008-02-21 Thread Sven Grüner
Hallo, gerade habe ich das Gefühl das an mehreren Schreibtischen an Ideen getüftelt wird, wie man administrative Strukturen in OSM-Relationen abbilden und erfassen könnte. Außerdem taucht das Thema auch immer wieder auf anderen Listen auf und köchelt im wiki vor sich hin Ich stelle mir vor

Re: [Talk-de] Vereinheitlichung bei S-, U-, Stadt- und Straßenbahn

2008-02-21 Thread Heiko Jacobs
Moin Ich habe nun auch mal einen Blick auf das englischsprachige Original geworfen. Was bei uns mit Straßenbahn/S-Bahn/U-Bahn übersetzt ist, heißt dort: railway=tram: One or two carriage rail vehicles, usually sharing motor road railway=light_rail: Short/light passenger trains. Metro systems

Re: [Talk-de] Vereinheitlichung bei S-, U-, Stadt- und Straßenbahn

2008-02-21 Thread Heiko Jacobs
Moin Nach deiner Recherche und der Erkenntnis, daß light_rail nicht S-bahn, sondern Stadtbahn ist, würde ich die Linien 16, 18 und 66 als light_rail umtaggen und die Linien 61 und 62 erst einmal als tram belassen, da sie viel im Verkehr mitschwimmen. Daß die Bahnen in anderen Städten noch

Re: [Talk-de] Vereinheitlichung bei S-, U-, Stadt- und Straßenbahn

2008-02-21 Thread Martin Simon
Am 21.02.08 schrieb Heiko Jacobs [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Moin Ich habe nun auch mal einen Blick auf das englischsprachige Original geworfen. Light rail, unlike rapid transit, is not fully grade-separated from other forms of traffic and thus is a step below a true rapid transit system. Das

Re: [Talk-de] OpenGeoDB Update

2008-02-21 Thread Sven Anders
Am Montag, 18. Februar 2008 22:48 schrieb Andreas Hubel: Hi, @Sven Anders: Wie weit bist du mit dem Update, sind die Relations inzwischenzeit drin? Nein, mein Rechner hat schlapp gemacht, und ich musste erstmal einen neuen kaufen (und einrichten (und dass soll dann halt auch alles erneuert

Re: [Talk-de] Relationen

2008-02-21 Thread Christoph Eckert
Hi, Ich will nun doch mal genau wissen, ob mein Verständnis von Relationen in einem kleinen Teilsektor richtig ist. da wird Dir momentan noch keiner was genaues sagen können ;-) . [...] Nun habe ich ganz zaghaft genau diese L205 einmal als Relation mit   type: route   ref:  L205

Re: [Talk-de] openstreetmap.de

2008-02-21 Thread Sven Anders
Am Donnerstag, 21. Februar 2008 10:20 schrieb Christian Linder: Also die Domain ist eingetragen auf Sven Anders. Leider ohne Email. Liest der hier noch mit? Ja, aber nicht stündlich :-) sondern nur alle 1-7 Tage. Vielleicht könnte man ihn überreden, aus der Seite ein Wiki zu machen oder

Re: [Talk-de] OpenGeoDB Update

2008-02-21 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hallo, Das Problem mit den Relationen ist, das die API wie im wiki beschrieben noch nicht wirklich funktioniert. Du kannst die Relationen zwar anlegen aber wieder laden (mit einen bestimmten Key/Value) funktioniert noch nicht. Kannst Du das mal genauer beschreiben? Bye Frederik --

[Talk-de] gravitystorm.co.uk in JOSM

2008-02-21 Thread Karl Eichwalder
Gibt es eine möglichkeit, gravitystorm.co.uk in JOSM als hintergrund zu laden? Wenn ich z.B. http://www.gravitystorm.co.uk/osm/?zoom=13lat=6351746.7745lon=1235966.73112layers=B00 sehen könnte, könnte ich anhand der höhenlinien die berge eingermaßen zuverlässig eintragen. Schade, dass die

Re: [Talk-de] Josm - Speicherplatz

2008-02-21 Thread Harald Kirsch
mx steht für MaXimum. Das ist der maximale virtuelle Speicher, den sich die Javamaschinerie (auch jvm genannt) für dynamische Daten holt. Summa summarum wird durchaus noch etwas mehr Speicher verwendet. Wann das Maximum ausgereizt wird, hängt von vielen Faktoren ab. Wenn Du Lust auf Risiko hast,

[Talk-de] OSM-Daten statistisch auswerten, war : Re: Vereinheitlichung bei S-, U-, Stadt- und Straßenbahn

2008-02-21 Thread Heiko Jacobs
Zitat von Heiko Jacobs [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Schaut man aber auf die 4 Orte in F und GB, so sieht man dass alle 4 als railway=tram getagged sind...! Jetzt die ganze Welt nach als light_rail kartierten Systemen manuell abzusuchen, ist mir momentan doch ein wenig zu viel :-) Kann man sowas

Re: [Talk-de] openstreetmap.de

2008-02-21 Thread Christoph Eckert
Moin, Ev. würde es schon langen, den Punkt Beispielkarte auf Straßenkarte oder sowas umzubenennen und um eine Suchfunktion zu erweitern. da wäre schon viel geholfen. Ich kann nur für mich reden, aber unter Beispielkarte hätte ich eher Screenshots als eine vollständig Zoombare Karte erwartet.

Re: [Talk-de] openstreetmap.de

2008-02-21 Thread Stefan Hirschmann
Sven Anders wrote: [SNIP Zukunft Openstreetmap.de] Was ich bei openstreetmap.de am meisten vermisste ist, dass es keine Karte gibt. Ich würde es als dringend erachten, dass e zumindestens einen Link auf openstreetmap.org gibt, welcher so beschriftet ist, dass es klar ist, dass dahinter die

Re: [Talk-de] Relationen

2008-02-21 Thread Fabian -Patzi- Patzke
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Rainer Schulze schrieb: | Hallo Experten | | Ich will nun doch mal genau wissen, ob mein Verständnis von Relationen in | einem kleinen Teilsektor richtig ist. | | Ausgangslage: Es gibt hier (und überall anderswo auch) eine Landstraße mit | der 'ref'

Re: [Talk-GB] Are we all terrorists?

2008-02-21 Thread Tom Higgy
tim wrote: We may not be all terrorists, but we are participating in terrorist behaviour. £10 in cigarettes and a phone call for the first person to be arrested and held for a month from mapping. I got stop-searched today at B'ham New Street station, something related to counter-terrorism.

Re: [Talk-GB] Are we all terrorists?

2008-02-21 Thread Gregory
On 21/02/2008, Tom Higgy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: tim wrote: We may not be all terrorists, but we are participating in terrorist behaviour. £10 in cigarettes and a phone call for the first person to be arrested and held for a month from mapping. I got stop-searched today at B'ham New