Re: [OSM-talk] OSMXapi

2008-03-21 Thread 80n
On Thu, Mar 20, 2008 at 9:54 PM, Chris Hill [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have extracted some data yesterday from OsmXapi for a range [bbox=-1.1, 53.63,0.16,54.17], roughly the area of East Yorkshire, UK. In the resulting data there are nodes and ways from well outside this area, for example:

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM server down

2008-03-21 Thread SteveC
db went down for some reason, restarted On 21 Mar 2008, at 07:57, Mike Collinson wrote: Both http://www.openstreetmap.org/ and attempted JOSM download give 500 Internal Server Error ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org

[OSM-talk] Survey: Bad Map Rendering

2008-03-21 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, I've been approached by a student of Geoinformatics who wants to write her Master's Thesis about something OSM related. I suggested to look into the rendering topic: Where are our current problems in rendering, can they be solved by simply improving the renderer(s) or will they need

Re: [OSM-talk] Survey: Bad Map Rendering

2008-03-21 Thread SteveC
Label placement. Sometimes the 'wrong' label gets precedent and one is hidden. Use spring-force placement on the labels to jiggle them until a fit is found. Anchor a virtual spring to the lat/lng of a node with place:city, name:Foo. The other end on to the label itself. Repeat with all the

[OSM-talk] Teleatlas file format

2008-03-21 Thread Alilo
Hi, Does any one know what file format or database Teleatlas/navteq uses for the maps they are selling to their clients? Is there a sample file somwhere? I searched and didn't find any. Alilo ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org

Re: [OSM-talk] Survey: Bad Map Rendering

2008-03-21 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Frederik Ramm wrote: I'd be happy to hear from you about such areas of bad rendering, whether they are bugs in there renderer(s) or just things that are ugly for some reason. Label placement (as Steve's flagged) and generalisation (i.e. stretching the geographical truth to convey the

Re: [OSM-talk] Survey: Bad Map Rendering

2008-03-21 Thread Sven Grüner
Frederik Ramm schrieb: I'd be happy to hear from you about such areas of bad rendering, whether they are bugs in there renderer(s) or just things that are ugly for some reason. I'm sure you are alluding to the redundant captions of ways that are split up for bridges or of dual carriageways.

Re: [OSM-talk] Teleatlas file format

2008-03-21 Thread SteveC
yes its just shapefiles with a specific ontology afair. there are specs on the web On 21 Mar 2008, at 11:54, Alilo wrote: Hi, Does any one know what file format or database Teleatlas/navteq uses for the maps they are selling to their clients? Is there a sample file somwhere? I searched

Re: [OSM-talk] Survey: Bad Map Rendering

2008-03-21 Thread Lambertus
Maybe routing is an interesting area to research as it is related to rendering and hinting or additional input from mappers. This is all AFAIK, sorry if I'm wrong here: So far we've seen a few examples of routing using OSM data but no real 'measurement' of how 'good' this routing actually is.

Re: [OSM-talk] Teleatlas file format

2008-03-21 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, Does any one know what file format or database Teleatlas/navteq uses for the maps they are selling to their clients? Is there a sample file somwhere? I searched and didn't find any. I read that both TeleAtlas and Navteq do supply data in GDF. There are two well-known GDF examples linked

Re: [OSM-talk] GPStogo is go!

2008-03-21 Thread Daniel Challen
Cool. Does the Foundation's status as a UK registered limited company preclude these donations benefitting from Gift Aid http://www.hmrc.gov.uk/charities/gift-aid.htm ? - Dan ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org

Re: [OSM-talk] GPStogo is go!

2008-03-21 Thread 80n
We are a registered non-profit organisation, but not a registered charity. Gift aid is only available for donations to registered charities. However, for large donations (say £1k+) it is possible for the donation to be channeled via a charity. We have an arrangement in place to do this. This

Re: [OSM-talk] Teleatlas file format

2008-03-21 Thread Dair Grant
Alilo wrote: Does any one know what file format or database Teleatlas/navteq uses for the maps they are selling to their clients? I don't know about NavTeq, but Tele Atlas data is available in GDF, RMF, Oracle, and Shapefiles. Is there a sample file somwhere? I searched and didn't find any.

[OSM-talk] Teleatlas file format

2008-03-21 Thread Peter Miller
Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2008 11:54:59 + From: Alilo [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [OSM-talk] Teleatlas file format To: Talk Openstreetmap talk@openstreetmap.org Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Hi, Does any one know what file format or

Re: [OSM-talk] OSMXapi

2008-03-21 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, Now i've got the most bizarre results ever, it does actually seem to be the right area its rending now, with all the right labels and icons just none of the ways (and no closed ways) all the individual nodes are there (it seems, POI are showing up). Actually I lie there are about 5-6

Re: [OSM-talk] OSMXapi

2008-03-21 Thread Daniel Taylor
Frederik Ramm wrote: Hi, Now i've got the most bizarre results ever, it does actually seem to be the right area its rending now, with all the right labels and icons just none of the ways (and no closed ways) all the individual nodes are there (it seems, POI are showing up). Actually I

Re: [OSM-talk] OSMXapi

2008-03-21 Thread 80n
On Thu, Mar 20, 2008 at 9:54 PM, Chris Hill [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have extracted some data yesterday from OsmXapi for a range [bbox=-1.1, 53.63,0.16,54.17], roughly the area of East Yorkshire, UK. In the resulting data there are nodes and ways from well outside this area, for example:

Re: [OSM-talk] Recent (last few weeks) [EMAIL PROTECTED] render changes

2008-03-21 Thread 80n
On Fri, Mar 21, 2008 at 8:59 PM, Alex Mauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've been looking at some of the recent changes to rendering of [EMAIL PROTECTED], and have some comments. Looking at the US at zoom 4 shows 3 distinctly rendered zones: East, Southwest, and Northwest. Looking a bit

Re: [OSM-talk] OSMXapi

2008-03-21 Thread Daniel Taylor
Frederik Ramm wrote: Hi, [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/Desktop/osm$ java -jar osmosis-0.24/osmosis.jar --read-xml file=data.osm --bb left=-2.6951453125 bottom=53.53062734375 right=2.6072546875 top=53.57457265625 completeRelations=no [...] Exception in thread Thread-1-read-xml

Re: [OSM-talk] OSMXapi

2008-03-21 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/Desktop/osm$ java -jar osmosis-0.24/osmosis.jar --read-xml file=data.osm --bb left=-2.6951453125 bottom=53.53062734375 right=2.6072546875 top=53.57457265625 completeRelations=no [...] Exception in thread Thread-1-read-xml java.lang.OutOfMemoryError: Java heap

Re: [OSM-talk] Recent (last few weeks) [EMAIL PROTECTED] render changes

2008-03-21 Thread Skywave
Would it be possible to take the borders in the same rendering as you render the text? The way they are now in the captionless tiles they are imho invisible. Also it would be very nice to filter on admin_level Skywave On Fri, Mar 21, 2008 at 10:44 PM, 80n [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, Mar

Re: [OSM-talk] OSMXapi

2008-03-21 Thread Chris Hill
I have downloaded the selection again and it now looks much better at a first glance. It is also a little over half the size of the old one. Thanks for your work. cheers, Chris - Original Message From: 80n [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Chris Hill [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Talk OSM

Re: [OSM-talk] re contours

2008-03-21 Thread Adam Schreiber
On Thu, Mar 20, 2008 at 6:05 AM, Steve Hill [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: with altitude anyway - if you're cycling (for example) at an altitude of 600m, a 100m high hill is just as significant to you as it would be if you were cycling at sea level, but in the former case it wouldn't show up on

Re: [talk-au] Rankins Springs

2008-03-21 Thread Liz
On Tue, 12 Feb 2008, Liz wrote: On Tue, 12 Feb 2008, Mike R wrote: . . . . . Mid Western Hwy and Rankins Springs Rd are also listed   :-) Mike I've emailed the council for advice. Its the sort of place which may provide access to their GIS for our use (to make sure they aren't

[Talk-de] kml overlay für osm

2008-03-21 Thread Stephan Richter
Hallo zusammen, ich weiss gar nicht genau ob das hier her gehört, aber ich versuche es mal: Für meine HP würde ich gern GPS-Tracks als overlay über osm Karten legen. Dafür scheint mir zunächst Openlayers am brauchbarsten, nur bin ich auf folgendes Problem gestoßen: Die Einbindung der

[Talk-de] Baustellen/Sperrungen auf Autobahnen

2008-03-21 Thread Andreas Hubel
Hi, wir hatten hier ja ab und zu schon Diskussionen, wie und ob man den Baustellen und Sperrungen am besten in OSM kennzeichnen könnte. Neulich bin ich auf der Homepage des B auf deren Baustelleninformationsystem gestoßen und mal angefragt, ob man die dahinter liegenden Daten bekommen könnte,

Re: [Talk-de] Baustellen/Sperrungen auf Autobahnen

2008-03-21 Thread Andreas Hubel
Neulich bin ich auf der Homepage des B auf deren [...] ich hab da wohl nen Platzhalter nicht ausgefüllt. ;-) gemeint war das Bundesministerium für Verkehr, Bau und Stadtentwicklung oder kurz bmvbs MfG Andi ___ Talk-de mailing list

Re: [Talk-de] Höhen in OSM

2008-03-21 Thread Andreas Hubel
Christoph Eckert schrieb: das sind die srtm-Daten, die schon Guenther erwähnte. Währe das nicht eine Möglichkeit diese Höhenangaben generell in OSM einzubauen? Soweit ich weiß ist der momentane Konsens eher, diese Daten nicht zu übernehmen. gibts dafür auch quellen?

Re: [Talk-de] Baustellen/Sperrungen auf Autobahnen

2008-03-21 Thread Karl Eichwalder
Stellt sich die Frage, ob wir für solche Informationen nicht eine eigene Schicht in OSM anlegen sollten und ob wir sie überhaupt in OSM haben wollen, oder dafür nicht ein eigenes Unterprojekt aufmachen sollten... Nach lage der dinge stellt sich die frage nicht wirklich... Zunächst müsste man

[Talk-de] SoC Idee: Verknüpfung mit externen Dat enquellen am Beispiel Öffnungszeiten

2008-03-21 Thread Hanno Böck
Hi, Ich schreib hier mal eine Idee, mit der ich mich für den SoC bewerben will. Englische Variante kommt dann die Tage. Die Idee hat Frederick mal bei einem Talk in Karlsruhe in den Raum geworfen und ich sinnier seitdem drüber nach dass ich das gern realisieren würde. Konkret geht es um die

Re: [Talk-de] kml overlay für osm

2008-03-21 Thread Sven Geggus
Stephan Richter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 1) ein Tool, welches aus meiner kml/gpx Datei mit lat/lon-Koordinaten eine kml/gpx Datei mit UTM Koordinaten macht. Gibt es sowas? cs2cs aus dem proj4 Paket kann so Sachen hin und her konvertieren. Beispielsweise von Gauß-Krüger (GK2) nach lat/long:

Re: [Talk-de] Baustellen/Sperrungen auf Autobahnen

2008-03-21 Thread Florian Schmitt
Andreas Hubel zitierte: Die Daten dürfen nicht an Dritte weitergegeben und nicht für kommerzielle Zwecke genutzt werden. (...) Wie könnte verhindert werden, dass die Daten nach Integration in OSM weder weitergegen noch (von Dritten) kommerziell genutzt werden? Solange die Bedingungen, unter

Re: [Talk-de] Baustellen/Sperrungen auf Autobahnen

2008-03-21 Thread Stefan Hirschmann
Andreas Hubel wrote: Voraussetzung für die Nutzung der Daten des Baustellen-Informationssystems ist die nicht-kommerzielle Nutzung der Daten. Hier ist der erste Haken! OSM selber ist zwar nicht kommerziell, aber: JEdes kommerzielle Projekt darf die Daten übernehmen - so eine Bedingung ist

[Talk-de] Barrierefreiheit taggen

2008-03-21 Thread Lulu-Ann
Hallo Martin, Was die barrierefrei zug?nglichen WC angeht, so sollten sich diese eigentlich in allen ?ffentlichen Geb?uden befinden, da sie Vorschrift sind. Die Zugangsbreite der T?ren muss meines Wissens mind. 90 betragen, besser aber 100 cm, wenn der angesprochene Rollstuhlfahrer durch

[Talk-cz] (no subject)

2008-03-21 Thread Petr Schonmann
Ahoj, přemýšlel jsem, jaky zpropagovat OSM v ČR. Napadlo mě, že kdybych byl na nejakém Uzemi, Tak bych si vzal sebou letáčky, samolepky popr neco jineho a prave polepoval nezmapovane casti. S tim ze by jsem samozrejme data zakreslil :). Na samolepkach by mohlo byt napsano odsud byli vyhnani

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Re : Activité hier en france

2008-03-21 Thread Renaud Martinet
Si les côtes sont effectivement considérées comme des frontières alors elle devraient à mon sens être également taguées boundary, le rendu est un autre problème qui devrait être facilement réglé. Pour les îles, ça devrait pouvoir se règler avec des relations non ? Renaud. 2008/3/17 Alban [EMAIL

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] geo-evenement - Paris 8, 9, 10 avril 2008

2008-03-21 Thread Renaud Martinet
Traduction : Désolé de poster en anglais sur cette liste, je vais essayer de faire court. Est-ce que quelqu'un a prévu d'assister à cet évènement à Paris ? http://www.ortech.fr/geo-evenement/village_open_source.php Merci, --- I probably won't be there myself but we have some

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Re : Activité hier en france

2008-03-21 Thread Stéphane Urbanovski
Renaud Martinet a écrit : Si les côtes sont effectivement considérées comme des frontières alors elle devraient à mon sens être également taguées boundary, le rendu est un autre problème qui devrait être facilement réglé. Pour les îles, ça devrait pouvoir se règler avec des relations non ?