Re: [Talk-it] foot=yes su strade con marciapiede

2019-07-16 Thread solitone
> On 16 Jul 2019, at 21:05, Volker Schmidt wrote: > > La possibilità di buon routing pedonale, per ciclisti, e per diversamente > abili, distingue OSM dalla competizione. > In questo senso routing è un criterio molto importante nelle decisioni come > mappare. Questo è vero, ma io mi

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] question limite nb vues switch to osm

2019-07-16 Thread marc marc
Le 16.07.19 à 15:38, Frédéric Rodrigo a écrit : > Le 16/07/2019 à 07:44, Laurence P a écrit : >> >> Bonjour, >> >> lorsque je tombe sur un site web _français_ qui propose une carte >> Google hors service (du fait que le site en question n'ait pas payé >> son obole à Google), je leur envoie en

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Désignation des supermarchés "Intermarché Super"

2019-07-16 Thread marc marc
Le 15.07.19 à 15:57, Luc Novales a écrit : > Le 15/07/2019 à 14:29, marc marc a écrit : >> iD propose 2 choses : >> >> - l'ajout de brand brand:wikipedia brand:wikidata, infos obtenue >> depuis le projet renseigné par Andrien. est-ce correct ? cela semble. >> >> - le changement du name : je

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Taguer une place

2019-07-16 Thread marc marc
Le 13.07.19 à 13:35, deuzeffe a écrit : > Rue/voies qui ont le même name= que la place. Donc on doublonne ? si on veux l'éviter, on peux renseigner le nom sur l'un (la place) et mettre un noname=yes sur l'autre (la rue). qu'en penses les autres ? ___

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Horaires des stations services

2019-07-16 Thread marc marc
Bonjour, la caisse de jour est différente de celle du magasin ? j'aurais fais 3 objets : - un pour le lavage payement uniquement par ticket/carte de lavage. - un pour le station d'essence, 24/7, en précisant les moyens de payement, sans y reneigner ce qui se vend dans le magasin. - un pour le

[Talk-de] Einladung zum 13. FOSSGIS-OSM-Hackingevent im Linuxhotel

2019-07-16 Thread Oliver Rudzick
Hallo allerseits, am ersten Adventswochenende vom 29.11.-01.12.2019 findet das FOSSGIS-OSM-Hackingevent Nr. 13 [1] im Linuxhotel in Essen statt: https://www.fossgis.de/wiki/FOSSGIS_Hacking_Event_2019_Nummer_13 Das Linuxhotel mit seiner guten technischen Ausstattung und dem parkähnlichen

Re: [OSM-talk] handling street names in speech

2019-07-16 Thread Andrew Errington
I think this is a rendering issue (i.e. rendering speech instead of graphics) and as such does not belong in OSM. The work to convert an arbitrary string into speech belongs in the TTS engine. If we start putting IPA strings in OSM then we will start getting arguments about the "correct"

[OSM-talk-fr] Import vectoriel d'éléments de cadastre depuis JOSM + documentation

2019-07-16 Thread Baptiste Jonglez
Salut, Jusqu'ici, j'importais les bâtiments du cadastre « à la main », en affichant la couche cadastre dans JOSM et en reproduisant le tracé des bâtiments en créant les points et polygones moi-même. Hors, dans les slides de la présentation de Vincent Privat au dernier SOTM [1], j'ai découvert

Re: [Talk-at] Zweiter Benutzer von addresshistory*org mit edits?

2019-07-16 Thread Rainer Fügenstein
On 16/07/2019 23:04, Johann Haag wrote: Urlaubsgrüsse aus Irland. hat schon jemand die irischen kollegen gewarnt? ___ Talk-at mailing list Talk-at@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-at

[Talk-GB] Automated Code-Point Open postcode editing (simple cases only)

2019-07-16 Thread ndrw6
Hi, Over past several months I've been adding postcodes from Code-Point Open. I've streamlined the procedure a bit, so I can now add the tags without spelling out every single one of them, but it is still a manual and labour intensive process: https://github.com/ndrw6/import_postcodes/

Re: [OSM-talk] handling street names in speech

2019-07-16 Thread Greg Troxel
John Whelan writes: > One or two are problematic usually as the street name is an > abbreviation.    For example 1e Avenue in French meaning First Avenue. > > Any suggestions on how these should be handled?  This particular > application is aimed at partially sighted people but I feel we should

Re: [Talk-at] Zweiter Benutzer von addresshistory*org mit edits?

2019-07-16 Thread Johann Haag
Ich muss mich entschuldigen. Ich habe meine Roccat Tyon Maus im Reisegepäck, 14 Gb Roaming Guthaben bereits gebucht, aber nun festgestellt dass ich meinen Laptop zuhause vergessen habe. Das bedeutet für mich nun, drei Wochen Mapping Pause. Ich hoffe ich gehe Euch nicht ab. Lg Johann Von meinem

Re: [Talk-at] Zweiter Benutzer von addresshistory*org mit edits?

2019-07-16 Thread Johann Haag
Lese gerade belustigt Eure Theorien, Urlaubsgrüsse aus Irland. Ja das war ich... das Delete in Tirol ein Versehen. Lg Von meinem iPhone gesendet > Am 16.07.2019 um 08:37 schrieb vari...@mailbox.org: > > Es gibt offensichtlich einen neuen Benutzer, der oft nichts anderes macht, > als den Tag

Re: [Talk-it] Depuratore

2019-07-16 Thread scratera
...per come la vedo io è a tutti gli effetti un depuratore chiuso come ce ne sono molti in giro non necessariamente sono all'aperto https://www.theplan.it/images/stories/gallery48707/06.jpg ..quindo come tale metterei bulding=yes man_made=wastewater_plant -- Sent from:

Re: [Talk-it] foot=yes su strade con marciapiede

2019-07-16 Thread Volker Schmidt
La possibilità di buon routing pedonale, per ciclisti, e per diversamente abili, distingue OSM dalla competizione. In questo senso routing è un criterio molto importante nelle decisioni come mappare. On Tue, 16 Jul 2019, 20:55 solitone via Talk-it, wrote: > > > On 16 Jul 2019, at 16:18, Volker

Re: [Talk-it] foot=yes su strade con marciapiede

2019-07-16 Thread solitone via Talk-it
> On 16 Jul 2019, at 16:18, Volker Schmidt wrote: > > Per motivi di routing pedonale è giusto che la strada porti un foot=yes, ma > anche questo manca spesso, ma i casi sono in aumento, grazie a iD. Non conosco i dettagli del problema, ma il mio primo pensiero è stato: "mappare per il

Re: [OSM-talk] handling street names in speech

2019-07-16 Thread Colin Smale
On 2019-07-16 19:52, Jo wrote: > If we were to make such exceptions, we would get into trouble really fast, as > some streets are signed differently on one end and on the other, depending > how big the street sign is, or in what period it was put there. Don't shoot the messenger, I didn't

Re: [OSM-talk] handling street names in speech

2019-07-16 Thread Jo
If we were to make such exceptions, we would get into trouble really fast, as some streets are signed differently on one end and on the other, depending how big the street sign is, or in what period it was put there. Expanding abbreviations is the norm. I try to do it even for first and middle

Re: [Talk-at] Zweiter Benutzer von addresshistory*org mit edits?

2019-07-16 Thread gppes_osm--- via Talk-at
Ich hatte es schon im CS-Kommentar geschrieben, diese "at_bev:addr_date"-Edits von "Landeskarte" sind aus meiner Sicht zu revertieren. Auch wenn pro CS anscheinend "nur" einzelne hundert Nodes bearbeitet wurden: Wir haben derzeit einfach zu viele undiskutierte mechanische Edits im Staate

Re: [OSM-talk] handling street names in speech

2019-07-16 Thread Colin Smale
On 2019-07-16 19:07, Nuno Caldeira wrote: > also on the the standard mapping convetions, its mentioned in bold : > > DON'T USE ABBREVIATIONS > > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Editing_Standards_and_Conventions But exceptions are made in some cases, including where the signage uses the

Re: [OSM-talk] handling street names in speech

2019-07-16 Thread Jo
When using OsmAnd in the streets of Brussels, it doesn't matter what the language is set to, the French - Dutch combo is consistently pronounced wrongly. IPA would indeed solve that. Editor support would be very welcome to enter the proper characters and to listen to the result, both in JOSM and

Re: [Talk-it] Depuratore

2019-07-16 Thread liste DOT girarsi AT posteo DOT eu
Il 16/07/19 18:30, Francesco Ansanelli ha scritto: >> ciao, come mappo un edificio sul quale c'è una targhetta che recita: >> >> Depuratore Comune di XY >> >> ripeto, all'apparenza è un semplice edificio, esternamente non si vede >> nient'altro che un edificio. >> mancando elementi definitivi,

Re: [OSM-talk] handling street names in speech

2019-07-16 Thread Nuno Caldeira
also on the the standard mapping convetions, its mentioned in bold : Don't use abbreviations https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Editing_Standards_and_Conventions A terça, 16/07/2019, 18:05, Stefan Baebler escreveu: > I think IPA ( >

Re: [OSM-talk] handling street names in speech

2019-07-16 Thread Stefan Baebler
I think IPA (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Phonetic_Alphabet ) would address that problem, but that would require many more tags, which are not trivial for mappers to write. Br, Štefan V tor., 16. jul. 2019 17:55 je oseba Colin Smale napisala: > The reason for wanting to

Re: [Talk-it] foot=yes su strade con marciapiede

2019-07-16 Thread Francesco Ansanelli
Buonasera Volker, Sono d'accordo sul fatto che manca un sistema di controllo per verificare se è presente il tag sidewalk=separate per le strade che si trovano in prossimità di un marciapiede. Credo si possa sviluppare un plugin per osmose, ammesso che sia considerato da tutti come un errore, che

Re: [Talk-it] Depuratore

2019-07-16 Thread Francesco Ansanelli
Ciao Enrico, Secondo me, l'edificio è 'building=service'... Valuta se mettere un nodo al suo interno che rappresenta il depuratore (non sapendo nulla, valuterei: water_supply=pipeline). Ho trovato questo sul taginfo: https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/keys/water_purification#combinations che può

Re: [OSM-talk] handling street names in speech

2019-07-16 Thread Colin Smale
The reason for wanting to expand abbreviations in OSM is surely to avoid ambiguity, not specifically to aid pronunciation or recognition. In the case of "1e ..." in a certain language context, would that not be unambiguous? Would a speech synthesiser not know how it should be spoken in its working

[Talk-it] Depuratore

2019-07-16 Thread demon_box
ciao, come mappo un edificio sul quale c'è una targhetta che recita: Depuratore Comune di XY ripeto, all'apparenza è un semplice edificio, esternamente non si vede nient'altro che un edificio. come lo taggo? grazie --enrico -- Sent from:

Re: [OSM-talk] handling street names in speech

2019-07-16 Thread john whelan
I think this one has nailed it. Thanks John On Tue, 16 Jul 2019 at 11:36, Stefan Baebler wrote: > Hints to the speaker (human or TTS engine) can be provided via: > 1) pronunciation tag: > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Phonetics eg >

Re: [OSM-talk] handling street names in speech

2019-07-16 Thread John Whelan
This approach I like. Name:expanded perhaps? To go back to earlier ideas. Expanding the name sounds sensible but unfortunately the street signs are posted with the abbreviation and some local mappers have a what is on the sign goes in the map mentality.  Also we have had discussions about

Re: [OSM-talk] handling street names in speech

2019-07-16 Thread Stefan Baebler
Hints to the speaker (human or TTS engine) can be provided via: 1) pronunciation tag: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Phonetics eg https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:name:pronunciation 2) teach it how to expand appreviations in different languages, eg

Re: [OSM-talk] handling street names in speech

2019-07-16 Thread Colin Smale
On 2019-07-16 16:54, John Whelan wrote: > One or two are problematic usually as the street name is an abbreviation. > For example 1e Avenue in French meaning First Avenue. > > Any suggestions on how these should be handled? This particular application > is aimed at partially sighted people

Re: [OSM-talk] handling street names in speech

2019-07-16 Thread Mateusz Konieczny
The same happened in Poland, abbreviations are expanded. 16 Jul 2019, 17:02 by nunocapelocalde...@gmail.com: > in Portugal the community has agreed not to use abreviations.  > > A terça, 16/07/2019, 15:58, John Whelan <> jwhelan0...@gmail.com > > > escreveu: > >>

Re: [OSM-talk] handling street names in speech

2019-07-16 Thread Nuno Caldeira
in Portugal the community has agreed not to use abreviations. A terça, 16/07/2019, 15:58, John Whelan escreveu: > One or two are problematic usually as the street name is an > abbreviation.For example 1e Avenue in French meaning First Avenue. > > Any suggestions on how these should be

[OSM-talk] handling street names in speech

2019-07-16 Thread John Whelan
One or two are problematic usually as the street name is an abbreviation.    For example 1e Avenue in French meaning First Avenue. Any suggestions on how these should be handled?  This particular application is aimed at partially sighted people but I feel we should be able to come up with a

Re: [Talk-GB] NaPTAN Aberdeen Import Completion

2019-07-16 Thread Mateusz Konieczny
Thanks for making this import! 16 lip 2019, 13:47 od silentspike...@gmail.com: > Just an update to say the import has been completed. > > I wrote a diary entry to share some insight (> > https://www.openstreetmap.org/user/TheEditor101/diary/390283 >

[Talk-it] foot=yes su strade con marciapiede

2019-07-16 Thread Volker Schmidt
Noto che si diffonde giustamente la mappatura di precisione. Tante strade al momento non hanno nessuna indicazione circa la presenza o meno di marciapiedi, cioè non c'è ne sidewalk=* ne un marciapiede separato. Per motivi di routing pedonale è giusto che la strada porti un foot=yes, ma anche

Re: [Talk-uy] Proyecto de Importación de Direcciones

2019-07-16 Thread muralito
Hola Jorge. Bienvenido el impulso que le dan a este asunto. La documentacion que hicieron me parecio adecuada. Lo planteo por la lista talk-uy que creo es lo que tiene llegada mas amplia. Estuve viendo que empezaron a importar algunas direcciones en Bella Unón, y hay algunos casos que no

Re: [talk-cz] Fody verifikace fotek - postup prace

2019-07-16 Thread Tom Ka
Aktualizace, mame 83% (pres 20 000ks) zverifikovanych fotek, zbyva 1770. Datumove jsme nekde pred v roce 2014. Bye čt 20. 6. 2019 v 13:56 odesílatel Tom Ka napsal: > > Ahoj, > > jen info - aktualne je jiz verifikovano 75% vsech fotek, datumove jsou > to (+-) 2016.03 a novejsi. Zbyva 3650. > >

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] question limite nb vues switch to osm

2019-07-16 Thread Frédéric Rodrigo
Le 16/07/2019 à 07:44, Laurence P a écrit : Bonjour, lorsque je tombe sur un site web _français_ qui propose une carte  Google hors service (du fait que le site en question n'ait pas payé son obole à Google), je leur envoie en général un email pour leur conseiller de passer à OpenStreetMap.

Re: [OSM-talk-be] How owing to FlightRadar24 to follow the Tour de France on a less straight route

2019-07-16 Thread André Pirard
On 12/07/2019 18.55, André Pirard wrote: Comment avec FlightRadar24 suivre les avions plutôt que les vélos du Tour de France. How owing to

Re: [Talk-es] Añadir capa con trazado del metro, cercanías y metro ligero de Madrid, España

2019-07-16 Thread yo paseopor
En primer lugar , como mola tu mapa y el hecho de que el código esté disponible. Estoy seguro que a muchos nos puede interesar. en segundo lugar te recomiendo otro repositorio de github que contiene capas diversas entre las que puedes encontrar alguna que te pueda interesar como la que sugiere

Re: [Talk-es] Añadir capa con trazado del metro, cercanías y metro ligero de Madrid, España

2019-07-16 Thread Jorge Sanz Sanfructuoso
Buenas Esta por ejemplo la capa de transporte que sale en la pagina de OSM https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=14/40.4191/-3.7049=T Muestra todas las rutas de transporte por lo que también salen buses. No sé si es lo que necesitas. Sino en esta sección de la wiki, a lo mejor en alguno de los

[Talk-es] Añadir capa con trazado del metro, cercanías y metro ligero de Madrid, España

2019-07-16 Thread Cyttorak
Hola ¿Como podría añadir una capa en mi mapa para que se vea el trazado (no solo las estaciones) de metro, cercanías y metro ligero de Madrid, España? ¿Hay alguna capa ya hecha para esto que pueda importar? Gracias.

Re: [Talk-GB] NaPTAN Aberdeen Import Completion

2019-07-16 Thread Tony Shield
Hi Spike Have read your diary and the NaPTAN/Aberdeen page - absolutely excellent. Yes It will encourage me to have a go for my local area. Regards Tony Shield TonyS999 On 16/07/2019 12:47, Silent Spike wrote: Just an update to say the import has been completed. I wrote a diary entry to

[Talk-GB] NaPTAN Aberdeen Import Completion

2019-07-16 Thread Silent Spike
Just an update to say the import has been completed. I wrote a diary entry to share some insight ( https://www.openstreetmap.org/user/TheEditor101/diary/390283), but no doubt forgot to mention something so feel free to ask me anything. Now it's time for me to start confirming stop details and

Re: [Talk-at] Zweiter Benutzer von addresshistory*org mit edits?

2019-07-16 Thread andreas wecer
Am Di., 16. Juli 2019 um 12:22 Uhr schrieb Frederik Ramm < frede...@remote.org>: > Sollte es ein "multi" von addresshistory*org sein, der damit in perfider > Weise versucht, unser Aufräumen zu torpedieren, wäre das natürlich ein > Grund, sämtliche Accounts erstmal für längere Zeit auf Eis zu

Re: [Talk-at] Zweiter Benutzer von addresshistory*org mit edits?

2019-07-16 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, On 16.07.19 09:37, vari...@mailbox.org wrote: > Es gibt offensichtlich einen neuen Benutzer, der oft nichts anderes > macht, als den Tag at_bev:addr_date=2019-04-01 zu löschen. Wurde auch > gefragt, warum er das gemacht hat ohne Antwort: Hab ihn gesperrt und um Wohlverhalten gebeten:

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Epreuve Cyclo-randonnée Paris-Brest-Paris dans OSM

2019-07-16 Thread Florimond Berthoux
Le lun. 15 juil. 2019 à 12:13, Phyks a écrit : > Salut, > > > Pour le besoin de différencier les itinéraires par type de pratique > > vélo, je suis plus pour dire que route=mtb est une erreur et que la > > bonne façon de faire c'est la spécialisation : > > route=bicycle > >

[Talk-at] Zweiter Benutzer von addresshistory*org mit edits?

2019-07-16 Thread various
Es gibt offensichtlich einen neuen Benutzer, der oft nichts anderes macht, als den Tag at_bev:addr_date=2019-04-01 zu löschen. Wurde auch gefragt, warum er das gemacht hat ohne Antwort: https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/72163441 weiter Beispiele z. B.

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Attribution incorrecte

2019-07-16 Thread Vincent Bergeot
Le 15/07/2019 à 23:12, osm.sanspourr...@spamgourmet.com a écrit : Je pense préférable que toute personne voyant un tel problème utilise le modèle conçu par Deuzeffe et si la personne ne réagit pas coreectement qu'on actionne le niveau officiel. En ne respectant pas l'attribution, c'est aussi