Nick Whitelegg wrote:
No venues as yet. Jonathan (Bennett) - since you live in the area, do you
know
anywhere suitable in Guildford (e.g. wi-fi access?)
The pub we ended up in at the last Guildford meet-up, the Guildford Tup
(http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=51.23744lon=-0.56999zoom
Ian Haylock wrote:
And of course everyone should be using lynx to browse the web. After all
who needs fancy graphics anyway ? It's just a pure waste of the
internets bandwidth :-)
I think Tom was making a more general point that a spinning (or flaming)
logo is a poor substitute for a
SteveC wrote:
Having considered many great proposals, Ireland has been chosen for
SOTM08
We should get DERI (http://www.deri.ie/) at UGC involved. I'm assuming
the venue is Limerick, as proposed on the Wiki (although I wouldn't
object to SOTM being in Galway).
Niccolo Rigacci wrote:
we tag unpaved traks as highway (sound very
confusing for Italian people!).
It could have been worse -- we could have used 'thoroughfare' as the
key, and then waited for non-Brits to pronounce it.
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Frederik Ramm wrote:
In the long(er) run we'll have to think about multiple data layers
anyway. For example, someone might want to map the ancient city of
Rome, or someone might want to map aviation routes and airspace, and
the like.
I have exactly such a project in mind.
So we will, sooner
Robert (Jamie) Munro wrote:
I note that near where I live, someone has traced the edge of the high
resolution imagery and tagged it:
Do people agree with this example? If so I'll add it to Oxford and any
others I come across.
I'd disagree, and even go so far as to say tagging things like
elvin ibbotson wrote:
Things humans read need to be human readable. The database should be
read by software and if it can be faster and more efficient using
numbers, numbers are what should be used.
The best way of proving this would be to come up with your own version
of the OSM server
Nick Whitelegg wrote:
Hello everyone,
Would like to announce the initial release of Freemap Mobile, a Java ME
mapping application for mobile devices. Freemap Mobile displays Freemap
maps (i.e. UK countryside-orientated OSM maps) on a GPS enabled mobile
phone (e.g. Nokia N95) and the
Inge Wallin wrote:
I'd like to be able to show these three different turning facilities (the
first one isn't a circle) on the map. One way would be to add a size tag:
highway=turning_circle
size=small | medium | large
with small or medium being the default. What do you think?
I
Florian Lohoff wrote:
There are even turning circles around a house or with parking lots in
the middle.
Those aren't turning circles -- a turning circle is just a wider,
usually rounded piece of road to allow vehicles to turn where there
wouldn't otherwise be space.
Here's what I was mapping
Jochen Topf wrote:
I find 207 000 places in Europe and only 57 000 population tags.
I've just done my bit by adding a population tag to Guildford. Only
149,999 places to go
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While we're on the subject of dataset quality, you may want to consider
this journey from Glasgow Airport to Glasgow Central station:
Nic Roets wrote:
The same route with osm data.
http://tile.openstreetmap.nl/~lambertus/routing-world/?flat=55.863481flon=-4.427433tlat=55.859127tlon=-4.259269v=carfast=1
At first glance it look better...
Not from here. OSM + Gosmore sends you the correct (and possible) route.
Google Maps
...you go on holiday to a Scottish island, and one of the words your
two-year old son learns while he's there is GPS.
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Frederik Ramm wrote:
But saying: We don't intend to support this because we cannot think of
an application that absolutely requires it, is quite un-OSM, is it not?
Qualify application as application which actually uses the geodata,
and it's not so far off the mark. We don't need a million
andrzej zaborowski wrote:
You might be missing out on a cool visualisation tool though (maybe
what Bernhard is trying doing is similar), but that's the only use
case I can think of right now.
How does that help anyone a) use the data, or b) improve the data? See
ITO's OSM Mapper if you want a
Ian Dees wrote:
Woah! Since when can OSM tell me what sort of applications I can and
can't write with the open source data that OSM is providing**?
You're not being told what to do with the data, but it's being suggested
to you that you can't have it in a particular, resource-intensive format
andrzej zaborowski wrote:
Cool visualisation tools don't have to comply with a) or b), they just
need to be cool :)
So cool you're prepared to pay for the infrastructure to support it?
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Shaun McDonald wrote:
I've taken another look at the wording. I think that the wording could
be changed from Start mapping with OpenStreetMap to Start LIVE
editing the OpenStreetMap data.
I don't think that will be enough -- as David pointed out, the idea that
an application has a Save
Tobias Knerr wrote:
Relations are not Categories uses the argument that you can query for
all objects that carry a tag. This isn't enough, however, if the
combined information from tags and coordinates doesn't qualify as an
unique identifier. The situation for architects, imo, resembles the
Jacek Konieczny wrote:
If the clubs have documented and are maintaining the routes, then they
are official enough. Just use the operator tag to mark which club is
responsible for which route. network tag could be also used for that,
but it is currently used rather for describing network scope
Martin Koppenhoefer wrote:
Albert Speer.
Father and son, quite notorious case by the way...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Albert_Speer
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Albert_Speer,_Jr.
the grand father http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Albert_Friedrich_Speer
also was an architect, but there is no
...and how many buildings designed by either have you tagged so far?
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Martin Koppenhoefer wrote:
if you didn't destroy them... ;-)
Ah, they were clients of AT Harris Urban Remodelling Services?
Unfortunate as that is, it just reinforces my second point: Don't try to
solve a problem that you haven't actually encountered yet.
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Eugene Alvin Villar wrote:
Any comments?
Important to who?
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Ed Loach wrote:
Important to who?
A good question. Perhaps prominence rather than important?
Using synonyms for Importance doesn't answer the basic question.
Anything not based on observable fact is inherently subjective. There
are many ways to arrive at your own score for importance based
Thomas Schäfer wrote:
Therefore my appeal: Ask your next admin/provider for ipv6 , make a
plan and
make the network working, add the to dns an be happy. Solve the little
problems .
Asked and answered.
http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk/2007-October/018603.html
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Thomas Schäfer wrote:
No, the answer was not satisfying.
What part of it's not under our control didn't you understand?
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Stefan de Konink wrote:
Set up a SixXS tunnel and have fun :)
Great idea! How long do you think it will take you?
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Thomas Schäfer wrote:
Lets solving the Chicken-and-egg problem in ipv6 by simply doing it.
OK -- when are you available to set it up?
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John Smith wrote:
I'm still scratching my head as to why this isn't possible to be honest.
It's possible, but it appears the people who think it's so important
just want to sit on their arses and have someone else do the work.
By comparison, when Relations were proposed, they happened because
Roy Wallace wrote:
On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 4:33 PM, Lester Caineles...@lsces.co.uk wrote:
High ground clearance required?
...So 4WD_Only is not really the correct terminology
and does not clearly identify the problem? IS it ground clearance, deep
fords,
mud or poor traction conditions ...
John Smith wrote:
I feel there is a very real need to describe something that is between
residential and track and up until this point in time unclassified has been
used.
If there are types of roads in Australia that you feel the existing tags
don't adequately describe, feel free to start
John Smith wrote:
Is it forbidden, explicitly or otherwise?
Yes. Unless it's explicitly permitted, it's forbidden.
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Morten Kjeldgaard wrote:
Remember that data is no good if it's not rendered,
Remember that rendering a map isn't the only use for geodata.
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Mike Ryan wrote:
Hi
Not really sure if this is the right place to ask, but I wanted to leave
a comment on the Opengeodata.org website and you need to login first.
However, there's nowhere listed to register. Does anyone know how to do
this on there?
I appears to be disabled at the moment.
Martin Koppenhoefer wrote:
no, we shouldn't. But what's so strange about the desire to tag
nuclear installations? Why not tag all chemical plants? There is a lot
of benefit in mapping not just industrial but also the type of
industry, be it chemical, automotive, steel, clothing or whatever.
Liz wrote:
I'm looking to implant some OSM maps into Wikipedia, but I need some examples
of their wiki editing style so I don't get my edits rubbed out by the style
police.
Could people please advise me of wikipedia pages with OSM maps so I can view
the style of the pages?
Liz,
See:
Tobias Knerr wrote:
How about offer reliable service with good uptimes? After the recent
maintenance weekend it was stated that our services are not really
intended for the public (at least if they need them and don't just
experiment with them) and we are only about data. If that's still the
Anthony wrote:
Eh, I'd take on Google pro se (or with the help of free EFF lawyers or
the like) over the issue of the ToS, and based on US law I'm pretty sure
I'd win. However, I'm aware that other users of OSM don't have the
benefit US-jurisdictional copyright law with respect to factual
David Muir Sharnoff wrote:
Perhaps the OSM database should be moved out of the EU to a location
that doesn't suffer from a Database Rights law.Extracting from
no-EU data source by people not in the EU would then be okay for sure.
Great! Let us know when you've secured the funding for this
Valent Turkovic wrote:
Currently on wiki I only found place=suburb tag and I see that it is used
also for mapping city's quarters.
Only issue is that when you map quarter of some town or village currently
the quarter has bigger font than name of village or town.
You should use the suburb
Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason wrote:
Why doesn't OSM ever tell me to take a 270 degree turn into oncoming
traffic on a 6-lane highway and get onto the motorway_link on the
other side?
OSM also never tells you to turn 180 degrees across a motorway central
reservation, then drive off the side of a
Eugene Alvin Villar wrote:
I wish OSM has a redirect feature for deleted nodes, ways, and
relations sort of like what Wikipedia has for its articles and pages.
Maybe a redirect=* tag? :-)
You mean something like this?:
http://trac.openstreetmap.org/ticket/2194
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Frankie Roberto wrote:
Ha, well there's a contentious statement! If that were the case, then
why do we even bother with the Mapnik/Osmarender tiles? Surely they're
the ultimate form of doing clever stuff with the data.
Primarily so mappers can see what they've been doing, as a form of
Nick Whitelegg wrote:
It seems rather contra to the spirit of free software and open source it
has to be said.
Not at all. You're free to do whatever you want with the data, and most
of the software used to create, store, process and display it.
What you can't do is expect someone else to
Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason wrote:
As Kyle Gordon brought up in this thread the issue is that the OSM
data has both building=yes/no and building=true/false and flickr only
supports the former.
Dave F. suggested that the OSM database be normalized to just use the
former because that's simpler.
Russ Nelson wrote:
On the other side you have mappers who want to create useful data, not
a pile of random rubbish.
No-one wants to create random rubbish. What people do want is to be able
to describe what they've just mapped without needing prior approval from
the OpenStreetMap Tagging
Gervase Markham wrote:
So why did you make the noname map in the first place, if it's not
important? Have you changed your mind about its usefulness?
It's useful *as a guide*, or a tool. What some people seem to be unable
to grasp is that *it's OK for a road to appear in red on NoNames*. You
Another new mailing list has been created: annou...@openstreetmap.org
You can subscribe here:
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Announce is a moderated list limited to announcements about OSM
services, new software versions and any other really, really important
news that affects
Dave F. wrote:
Could it be possible to change the render a the highest detail level or
two, to display the C+number. In the example you give it they would
certainly fit.
Dave,
This isn't aimed at you specifically, but you've raised a common point
which needs clarifying.
OpenCycleMap is a
Bráulio Bezerra da Silva wrote:
Will it ever happen?
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bernhard wrote:
Does OSM provide something like openid for mobile devices.
OSM supports OAuth.
See http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/OAuth
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David Groom wrote:
I have been doing the former, but it appears this might stop routing
applications allowing a car to travel from c - d as the barrier = stile
blocks the road to vehicle transport, and so the second tagging option
might be better.
Indeed it is. If it helps, think of a way
Jean-Marc Liotier wrote:
In Potlatch, 'Shift+g' shows only your traces and 'g' show all the
traces (http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Potlatch/Keyboard_shortcuts).
But the same shortcuts don't work in JOSM and nothing similar is listed
in http://josm.openstreetmap.de/wiki/Shortcuts. Is
Jean-Marc Liotier wrote:
The only drawback is that it depends on always working on the same host.
I often move and I would have preferred a solution that does not depend
on local data but only on what is on the server.
USB key? That has the advantage of working now, rather than waiting for
Shalabh wrote:
JOSM does not give me that option of a bridge under hiking trail,
atleast not while using the presets. If I use the highway tag with a
bridge, consider this. I have a hiking trail marked as an 'demanding
alpine hiking' 50 km from any humanity and then I have a bridge tagged
as
Steve Bennett wrote:
[...] I tend to
believe I can ride my bike wherever the hell I want unless there's a
sign saying otherwise.
That's fine for your personal decision making. However, for OSM we need
to provide people with as much information as possible so they can make
their own, possibly
Martin Koppenhoefer wrote:
Please see the proposal here:
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Dog_off-leash_area
This tag already seems to be well in use:
http://osmdoc.com/en/tag/leisure/dog_park
and there are no violent objections on the talk page, so it seems like
it's fine
Ian Dees wrote:
It might be interesting to start a draw your campus competition
similar to the one that Google did for its Sketchup application, but on
OSM. What d'ya think?
I think we should actually ask the marketing departments of the
Universities in question to arrange a donation of their
Stanislav Brabec wrote:
A completely different community project Discogs has following policy:
- You can subscribe to news in area of your interest.
- Voting on new data: Tell, how correct and accurate are these changes
are.
- Vote is a privilege, new users don't have vote privilege.
80n wrote:
I knew about latitude and longitude about 25 years before hyperlinks
were even invented, let alone permalinks.
I didn't think you were *that* old...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_hypertext_technology
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elvin ibbotson wrote:
Steve,
It looks like fakeSteveC or someone is pretending to be you and posting
elitist, patronising, condescending rubbish in an apparent attempt to
make you look foolish. I look forward to it being demonstrated that
'most people don't know what coordinates are'.
Shaun McDonald wrote:
(I'm wondering if there is a station out there that has all the
railway=platforms mapped, rather than just placing a footpath to the
railway=station node.)
Guildford station is pretty close, thanks to TimSC.
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Peter Miller wrote:
Btw, I have had xybot turning natural=wood into landuse=forest.
Where I come from a wood and forest are not the same thing at all.
Indeed not. I'd say a natural=wood refers to where trees have
self-seeded and spread naturally, while landuse=forest is a man-made,
artificially
Frank Sautter wrote:
can you please provide some information about that (way id). as far as
i can say this should not happen. xybot changed natural=forest to
landuse=forest and yes, wood and forest are not the same.
No, they aren't. And neither are natural and landuse -- natural
describes what
Richard Fairhurst wrote:
One quick win. When you search for OpenStreetMap on your favourite
search engine, it returns something like this:
OpenStreetMap
Licensed under the Creative Commons Attribution-Share Alike 2.0
license by the OpenStreetMap project and its contributors. ...
Is this our first bit of large-scale vandalism?
http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=40.78377lon=-119.20424zoom=16layers=00B0FTF
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Nop wrote:
So a good vote needs a better system and considerably more attention.
But just because people have not been paying attention when asked to
contribute does not give them the right to overrule those who did.
A good system for reaching consensus is based on discussion, not mere
Matthias Julius wrote:
What is the definition of a category here?
I would call a category something like buildings that are 29 strories
tall. An architect I would call an (abstract) object that can have
other attributes as well like a birthdate, an email address and so
on. (Whether all
Matthias Julius wrote:
I just prefer to explicitly link objects together over duplication of
data.
As long as the buildings are tagged consistently, having the tag is
probably enough -- you can then use XAPI to query the DB for all
buildings by a particular architect.
Nick Whitelegg wrote:
But one of my plans for Freemap (shortly to be re-launched as OpenFootMap,
all being well) is to add a nationwide Fix My Paths feature where users
can use OSM-derived maps to report a problem with a path. In other words,
they could click on the map, then the
MP wrote:
How large is the current delay before uploaded data became visible?
I've uploaded some changes in JOSM, provided a comment ... and when I
re-downloaded the area again, my changes were not there.
The servers are *very, very* busy right now, and it's possible that your
changes didn't
Frederik Ramm wrote:
That would be a bug in JOSM then. The API has no delay.
It could be that you get no warning when the upload fails under certain
circumstances. Hasn't happened to me on the latest SVN build, though.
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Russ Nelson wrote:
Any reason not to go through Wikipedia and import everything with a
coordinate as a POI, with a url=http://wikipedia.org/NAME link, and
name=NAME where NAME is the name of the Wikipedia entry? If I do this
under a special username, then there is no problem backing out
andrzej zaborowski wrote:
I think wikipedia=XX:NAME was choosen because the other way you can
Chosen? Where? As far as I can see the only discussion is at
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/External_links#Wikipedia
and that says wikipedia:XX=article name in that language
Jacek Konieczny wrote:
You don't need multiple values. Other languages are linked in Wikipedia,
no need to duplicate this in OSM.
If a place is described in 20 national Wikipedias do we really want 20
wikipedia=XX:name tags in OSM when only single wikipedia=XX:name
links to all the pages?
Peter Childs wrote:
In that case what we may need is a phonetic name tag. (Oh dear)
Like the one on:
http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/node/18167379
then?
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maning sambale wrote:
Can't download and connect to the main site.
WORKSFORME
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Frederik Ramm wrote:
Oh, and someone in Ireland
has just released a motor that produces more energy than it consumes.
Apart from the massive D cell powering it, you mean?
http://blogs.zdnet.co.uk/news-blog/#10014630
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On 22/12/2009 16:27, John F. Eldredge wrote:
There also does not appear to be any provision on the OSM web site for
changing to a new password
See http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/your display name/account
where there are two password boxes. Fill them both in to change your
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On 13/01/2010 20:45, Stan Berka wrote:
Whom do I contact to correct this?
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Nominatim#Bugs_.2F_Error_reporting
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On 14/01/2010 11:01, sara susini wrote:
This list generally uses English.
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/IT:FAQ
e
talk...@openstreemap.org - http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
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On 19/01/2010 20:02, Shaun McDonald wrote:
You may find that adding openstreetmap to your web searches helps to find
openstreetmap related stuff.
Or even using this custom search of the wiki, mailing lists and forum:
http://bit.ly/osmsearch
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On 04/02/2010 14:49, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote:
AFAIK our current license offers our data for everyone who attributes
correctly, but I'd like to raise the issue of malicious use of our
data by governmental organisations. What do you thing about setting up
a paragraph that prohibits the use of
On 05/02/2010 03:12, Sam Wilson wrote:
Hullo,
Does any one have any ideas about what programs I could use on tablet
computers in vehicles for navigation and tracking, and possibly editing?
For the navigation and tracking you could use TrackMyJourney
On 23/02/2010 23:07, SteveC wrote:
Let me know if you want that retracted or anyone else would like to be
involved in anything we can accomplish with them.
You can give my name, if you like.
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On 04/03/2010 10:57, Pieren wrote:
Excepted that we should try to keep spelling consistent, no ? All other
approved tags using 'center' are written 'centre'.
According to OSMdoc, there are already 252 uses of
amenity=community_centre and 90 uses of amenity=community_center
So the more popular
On 28/02/2010 22:27, Randy wrote:
Oops, I meant to check the groups list before sending this. There is an
announce list, as of last October. However, it hasn't had much activity.
That's because, try as I might, I'm not psychic and can't announce
things people don't tell me about.
Jonathan
On 22/03/2010 22:38, Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason wrote:
JOSM doesn't visualize relations at all. You need to notice that the
thing you're working on is part of a relation in the attributes dialog
(where the key/values are listed).
Almost true. It does if you work in the wireframe view, where
On 24/06/2010 16:57, Toby Murray wrote:
Two days ago he tweeted that the new server
was nearly ready so hopefully things will improve soon!
And don't forget, if you think OpenCycleMap.org is great, you could
always call in at the shop on the way out:
http://shop.opencyclemap.org/
On 28/07/2010 14:57, Floris Looijesteijn wrote:
But the girl is worth image of the week anyhow...
http://xkcd.com/322/
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On 21/11/2011 14:10, Václav Řehák wrote:
That's not true anymore. Downloading is disabled by Locus author in
the recent versions and online browsing is limited to a certain number
of tiles per day.
Possibly, but on the Locus web site
(http://www.locusmap.eu/version-1-14-0) there's a big red
On 05/12/2011 21:35, Frans Thamura wrote:
i think must research how to copy the data in weekly basis,
Use Osmosis' replication features:
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Osmosis/Detailed_Usage_0.38#Replication_Tasks
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On 24/01/2012 11:22, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote:
I wonder if this kind of tagging should be tolerated. In the wiki I
found no documentation regarding this tag, and therefore this data
seems unusable for most mappers.
Perhaps not, but systematically removing it won't improve anything
(since most
On 27/06/2012 23:06, john whelan wrote:
Could someone or a group come up with a more standard set of icons please?
Yes. You could.
If not you, who?
Seriously, having a library of icons matching common OSM features is a
fantastic idea, and I'm sure would be welcomed. It does need someone to
On 18/09/2012 13:42, Vincent Privat wrote:
What happened on 15th september looks like an abuse of authority to me,
as this largely exceeds the limits of the mandate given to the DWG. I
expect a clarification from the OSMF board on this point.
OK, if we're playing WikiLawyer pissing games, the
On 19/09/2012 17:26, Pieren wrote:
So, theoretically, we might have the same issue when tracing from Bing
for instance. Should we use a different account for Bing imagery
contributions as well, just in case we move later to a licence
incompatible with Bing ?
No, because tracing over Bing
On 20/09/2012 12:46, Lucas Nussbaum wrote:
It would certainly be helpful if more local communities would have one
of their members amongst the DWG members.
It certainly would -- those local communities who feel they need better
representation should decide amongst themselves who they want to
On 02/10/2012 12:29, woll wrote:
The New York Times has not amended the article, so it still contains the
statement that:
The biggest problem with Apple’s map...is that much of its data appears to
be drawn from OpenStreetMap, a Wikipedia-like service that contains a lot of
incorrect and
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