Re: [OSM-talk] Google Map Maker gets a UI overhaul

2011-12-15 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Martijn van Exel wrote: there's bound to be people slave-mapping for GMM that would contribute to OSM instead if 1) they knew about it or 2) it were easier to get started. If we had more than five people coding on the main site then maybe we could start to fix 2. ;) We're kind of hamstrung

[OSM-talk] Google Map Maker gets a UI overhaul

2011-12-14 Thread Martijn van Exel
I didn't even know that GMM had introduced peer reviewed edits, apparently they did so a while ago. 'Review some contributions and get yours reviewed faster' is what it told me when I logged in. And now they overhauled the UI to make it that much easier to contribute. We're definitely losing

Re: [OSM-talk] Google Map Maker gets a UI overhaul

2011-12-14 Thread Tobias Knerr
Martijn van Exel wrote: We're definitely losing (potential) mappers to GMM. I don't have to tell you that's a shame -- all that effort going into creating non-free data. But how do we divert some of that energy to OSM? Well, let's ask a Map Maker user:

Re: [OSM-talk] Google Map Maker gets a UI overhaul

2011-12-14 Thread Michal Migurski
On Dec 14, 2011, at 1:48 PM, Tobias Knerr wrote: Martijn van Exel wrote: We're definitely losing (potential) mappers to GMM. I don't have to tell you that's a shame -- all that effort going into creating non-free data. But how do we divert some of that energy to OSM? Well, let's ask a Map

Re: [OSM-talk] Google Map Maker gets a UI overhaul

2011-12-14 Thread Martijn van Exel
On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 1:21 PM, pec...@gmail.com pec...@gmail.com wrote: 2011. gada 14. decembris 21:57 Martijn van Exel m...@rtijn.org rakstīja: I didn't even know that GMM had introduced peer reviewed edits, apparently they did so a while ago. 'Review some contributions and get yours

Re: [OSM-talk] Google Map Maker gets a UI overhaul

2011-12-14 Thread Russ Nelson
Tobias Knerr writes: For people who are primarily motivated by applications they can use today, rather than the potential for future applications, we're just not that attractive - at least as far as mainstream applications are concerned. OSMAnd. Offline vector maps. Google Maps can't

Re: [OSM-talk] Google Map Maker gets a UI overhaul

2011-12-14 Thread Toby Murray
On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 9:35 PM, Russ Nelson nel...@crynwr.com wrote: OSMAnd. Offline vector maps. Google Maps can't touch that. +1 Especially with the OsmAnd update I got from the Android market a few days ago. Offline vector rendering was functional before. Now it's downright beautiful. On

Re: [OSM-talk] Google Map Maker gets a UI overhaul

2011-12-14 Thread Kev js1982
The Google maps app, via a labs add on, allows you to download offline vector maps! Okay they are only 10sq mi each and you are limited to 10 of them but its still possible. Kev On Dec 15, 2011 3:39 AM, Russ Nelson nel...@crynwr.com wrote: Tobias Knerr writes: For people who are primarily

Re: [OSM-talk] Google Map Maker gets a UI overhaul

2011-12-14 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, On 12/15/2011 03:45 AM, Martijn van Exel wrote: innovating leveraged gamification (GMM has 'superstar mappers' I believe) leverage I think you're reading too much off the blurby stuff ;) Thing is: Google has a gazillion more $$$ than we do, and they can buy all of Peru to do UI work for

[OSM-talk] Google Map Maker on TED

2010-01-13 Thread Tomas Straupis
http://www.ted.com/talks/lalitesh_katragadda_making_maps_to_fight_disaster_build_economies.html No comments so far... ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] Google Map Maker on TED

2010-01-13 Thread Valent Turkovic
On Wed, 13 Jan 2010 18:58:07 +0200, Tomas Straupis wrote: http://www.ted.com/talks/ lalitesh_katragadda_making_maps_to_fight_disaster_build_economies.html No comments so far... Has anybody from OSM held a speech at TED? UK guys and also people from different parts of our planet can talk about

Re: [OSM-talk] Google Map Maker on TED

2010-01-13 Thread Daniel Neugebauer
I heard about TED only recently and what I've read and seen about it so far seems like an insult - conspirative pseudo-open meetings for well-paying members of that strange elitist association. Talks seem to be only held by those members or VIPs that are invited occasionally if any. Even if I

Re: [OSM-talk] Google Map Maker on TED

2010-01-13 Thread Valent Turkovic
On Wed, 13 Jan 2010 21:54:59 +0100, Daniel Neugebauer wrote: I'd better stay away from them and go to some real open conferences and exhibitions instead. Maybe there are others OSM members who are willing to go? I agree that there are some elitism there but it is not only that, there are lots

Re: [OSM-talk] Google Map Maker on TED

2010-01-13 Thread Steve Bennett
On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 7:54 AM, Daniel Neugebauer mailingli...@energiequant.de wrote: I heard about TED only recently and what I've read and seen about it so far seems like an insult - conspirative pseudo-open meetings for well-paying members of that strange elitist association. Talks seem to

Re: [OSM-talk] Google Map Maker on TED

2010-01-13 Thread Michael Buege
Zitat Valent Turkovic: On Wed, 13 Jan 2010 18:58:07 +0200, Tomas Straupis wrote: http://www.ted.com/talks/ lalitesh_katragadda_making_maps_to_fight_disaster_build_economies.html No comments so far... Has anybody from OSM held a speech at TED? [..] Not a speech, but...

Re: [OSM-talk] Google Map Maker - press release

2008-06-26 Thread Nic Roets
My experience says that an institution like the foundation should not get involved in trying to give advice or otherwise comment on the product of a competitor. The reader will either know who we are and does not need to be informed about GMM, or the reader will think that the press release does

Re: [OSM-talk] Google Map Maker - press release

2008-06-26 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Nic Roets wrote: We're bigger than them in this space, so why give them free publicity ? Again, it depends on the media, I think. It's very plausible that Big Media will want to report on Google Map Maker - Google is sexy in news terms right now; there seems to be a story about them

Re: [OSM-talk] Google Map Maker - press release

2008-06-26 Thread Richard Fairhurst
John McKerrell wrote: One thing I'd say about the release is we might want to mention non-UK places too, it mentions Brighton and pubs of England. There's the wikiguide of Paris too isn't there which might be worth a mention? Good point - feel free to localise. cheers Richard

Re: [OSM-talk] Google Map Maker - press release

2008-06-26 Thread Martijn van Exel
Op 26 jun 2008, om 00:55 heeft Richard Fairhurst het volgende geschreven: Hi all, We've put together a press release with OSM (strictly speaking OSMF)'s reaction to Google Map Maker. You can get it in PDF or RTF format at: http://svn.openstreetmap.org/misc/pr_material/releases/ The

Re: [OSM-talk] Google Map Maker - press release (Richard Fairhurst)

2008-06-26 Thread Phil Endecott
Richard Fairhurst wrote: We've put together a press release with OSM (strictly speaking OSMF)'s reaction to Google Map Maker. You can get it in PDF or RTF format at: http://svn.openstreetmap.org/misc/pr_material/releases/

Re: [OSM-talk] Google Map Maker - press release

2008-06-26 Thread Steven Le Roux
2008/6/26 Martijn van Exel [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Op 26 jun 2008, om 00:55 heeft Richard Fairhurst het volgende geschreven: Hi all, We've put together a press release with OSM (strictly speaking OSMF)'s reaction to Google Map Maker. You can get it in PDF or RTF format at:

Re: [OSM-talk] Google Map Maker

2008-06-25 Thread Nick Whitelegg
I'm using gmail. The way I read my user agreement google pretty much has the right to do anything they want with any information I give them. For that reason I'm careful not to put anything really important in my emails. I find that very hard to believe, that a mail service operator would have

Re: [OSM-talk] Google Map Maker

2008-06-25 Thread Dave Stubbs
On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 12:16 PM, Nick Whitelegg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm using gmail. The way I read my user agreement google pretty much has the right to do anything they want with any information I give them. For that reason I'm careful not to put anything really important in my emails. I

Re: [OSM-talk] Google Map Maker

2008-06-25 Thread Michael Collinson
[Off original topic!] Google certainly do access the information sent to gmail accounts in order to deliver targeted ads in the account holders web email browser. So the original post had me rushing to read the fine print. I had to read it pretty carefully but access is limited to the

Re: [OSM-talk] Google Map Maker

2008-06-25 Thread Steve Hill
On Wed, 25 Jun 2008, Nick Whitelegg wrote: Is there not a law against unauthorised reading of emails? It isn't exactly unauthorised if you agreed to the contract when you signed up for the service... Whether they can read _inbound_ emails is a quite different question though, since the

Re: [OSM-talk] Google Map Maker

2008-06-25 Thread Steven Le Roux
2008/6/25 Richard Fairhurst [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Steven Le Roux wrote: d'un point de vue strictement technique, il faut reconnaitre que l'approche de map maker est meilleure que potlatch qui lui n'est pas utilisable sur une machine légere sous linux. (merci flash) Mais si vous detestez

[OSM-talk] Google Map Maker - press release

2008-06-25 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Hi all, We've put together a press release with OSM (strictly speaking OSMF)'s reaction to Google Map Maker. You can get it in PDF or RTF format at: http://svn.openstreetmap.org/misc/pr_material/releases/ The OSMF board is sending it to a few of the big tech blogs, but in true OSM fashion,

Re: [OSM-talk] Google Map Maker - press release

2008-06-25 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, We've put together a press release with OSM (strictly speaking OSMF)'s reaction to Google Map Maker. I know that dealing with the press requires a certain amount of dumbing down, but I do object to the phrase: Volunteers for OpenStreetMap, the Wikipedia-like website which is mapping the

Re: [OSM-talk] Google Map Maker - press release

2008-06-25 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Frederik Ramm wrote: I know that dealing with the press requires a certain amount of dumbing down, but I do object to the phrase: Volunteers for OpenStreetMap, the Wikipedia-like website which is mapping the world, say ... We are not a website. Sure. It depends who you're sending the

[OSM-talk] Google Map Maker

2008-06-24 Thread X
http://www.google.com/mapmaker/mapfiles/s/support.html Ready ... Fight ! ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] Google Map Maker

2008-06-24 Thread Victor Snesarev
Currently Map Maker is only enabled for a few areas that (I guess) don't have decent map data. Namely: # Bahamas # Barbados # Bermuda # British Virgin Islands # Cayman Islands # Cyprus # Grenada # Iceland # Jamaica # Netherlands Antilles # Pakistan # St. Kitts and Nevis # St. Lucia # St. Vincent

Re: [OSM-talk] Google Map Maker

2008-06-24 Thread Nic Roets
... # Cyprus # Grenada # Iceland ... No Germany ? Looks like peoplesmap 2.0 to me ! ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] Google Map Maker

2008-06-24 Thread Steven Le Roux
d'un point de vue strictement technique, il faut reconnaitre que l'approche de map maker est meilleure que potlatch qui lui n'est pas utilisable sur une machine légere sous linux. (merci flash) -- Steven Le Roux Jabber-ID : [EMAIL PROTECTED] 0x39494CCB [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2FF7 226B 552E 4709 03F0

Re: [OSM-talk] Google Map Maker

2008-06-24 Thread SteveC
Hum: http://blogs.s60.com/browser/images/seriouslyIBM_l.jpg On 24 Jun 2008, at 09:54, X wrote: http://www.google.com/mapmaker/mapfiles/s/support.html Ready ... Fight ! ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org

Re: [OSM-talk] Google Map Maker

2008-06-24 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Steven Le Roux wrote: d'un point de vue strictement technique, il faut reconnaitre que l'approche de map maker est meilleure que potlatch qui lui n'est pas utilisable sur une machine légere sous linux. (merci flash) Mais si vous detestez Flash, OpenStreetMap a un API, alors vous pouvez

Re: [OSM-talk] Google Map Maker

2008-06-24 Thread J.D. Schmidt
Who are we, Apple or IBM ? (And if the former, are you contemplating a surname-change in the near future ? ;) Me personally, I'm just waiting for the iOSM device - With matching white gpsantenna and rechargeable batteries that can't be exchanged without voiding the warranty. Not that the

Re: [OSM-talk] Google Map Maker

2008-06-24 Thread Lester Caine
SteveC wrote: Hum: http://blogs.s60.com/browser/images/seriouslyIBM_l.jpg I do wonder where we would be today if IBM had not used the worst possible processor ( because Intel could not sell it any where else ;) ) and then been conned into the the most restrictive operating system deal .

Re: [OSM-talk] Google Map Maker

2008-06-24 Thread Jeffrey Martin
I'm using gmail. The way I read my user agreement google pretty much has the right to do anything they want with any information I give them. For that reason I'm careful not to put anything really important in my emails. I'm guessing that google would have the rights to the aggregate mapping data

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] [OSM-talk] Google Map Maker

2008-06-24 Thread Denis
murphy2712.nospam a écrit : Au moins ça donne des idées pour améliorer nos interfaces/éditeurs/système de modération :) système de quoi ? Modérer la créativité du nouveau venu ? A quand une norme ISO sur le Web 2.05 GTI ? Bon, je plaisante à moitié seulement... Google n'est pas que LE glouton

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] [OSM-talk] Google Map Maker

2008-06-24 Thread Denis
Rodolphe Quiedeville a écrit : murphy2712.nospam a écrit : Au moins ça donne des idées pour améliorer nos interfaces/éditeurs/système de modération :) On Tue, Jun 24, 2008 at 6:54 PM, X [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.google.com/mapmaker/mapfiles/s/support.html Ready ... Fight ! La