Re: [OSM-talk] Mapnik Lowzoom TIles - proof of concept

2014-07-08 Thread Frederik Ramm
Toby, On 07/07/2014 08:57 PM, Toby Murray wrote: Is this a tagging problem or a rendering problem? As Christoph has already spotted, the server on which I made these tiles had a slightly older style sheet and ocean shape. I'll re-do the tiles based on the current Carto style and we'll have a

Re: [OSM-talk] Mapnik Lowzoom TIles - proof of concept

2014-07-07 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, On 06/30/2013 01:32 AM, Frederik Ramm wrote: On 12.03.2012 08:56, Frederik Ramm wrote: There's nothing keeping one from applying the Tiles@Home lowzoom process to a slight variation of our standard Mapnik style however, and out comes this (for zoom levels 0-8; from z9 on, the standard

Re: [OSM-talk] Mapnik Lowzoom TIles - proof of concept

2014-07-07 Thread Christoph Hormann
On Monday 07 July 2014, Frederik Ramm wrote: A new year, a new update. I like it how this map reveals some things that otherwise remain unseen, like for example a several 100km long secondary road in Antarctica (near New Zealand) that seems to have been there for a year (I've deleted it

Re: [OSM-talk] Mapnik Lowzoom TIles - proof of concept

2014-07-07 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, On 07/07/2014 01:41 PM, Christoph Hormann wrote: That was actually an existing feature - a transport route from the coast to the French Concordia station - you can even marginally see it on the LIMA mosaic if you look closely: Oh dear. I automatically assumed that it must be some kind

Re: [OSM-talk] Mapnik Lowzoom TIles - proof of concept

2014-07-07 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2014-07-07 13:41 GMT+02:00 Christoph Hormann chris_horm...@gmx.de: See also: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Concordia_Station The tagging might of course be considered wrong - it could be more like highway=track and surface=snow but for the standards of the region highway=secondary might

Re: [OSM-talk] Mapnik Lowzoom TIles - proof of concept

2014-07-07 Thread colliar
Am 07.07.2014 16:13, schrieb Frederik Ramm: Hi, On 07/07/2014 01:41 PM, Christoph Hormann wrote: That was actually an existing feature - a transport route from the coast to the French Concordia station - you can even marginally see it on the LIMA mosaic if you look closely: Oh dear. I

Re: [OSM-talk] Mapnik Lowzoom TIles - proof of concept

2014-07-07 Thread Christoph Hormann
On Monday 07 July 2014, Frederik Ramm wrote: The tagging might of course be considered wrong - it could be more like highway=track and surface=snow but for the standards of the region highway=secondary might even be an understatement. What would you recommend? Well - there is not really

Re: [OSM-talk] Mapnik Lowzoom TIles - proof of concept

2014-07-07 Thread Toby Murray
This rendering has highlighted inconsistent tagging in county borders in the U.S. However the inconsistency is only on member ways. The county boundary relations are very consistent but don't seem to be used in rendering. Should they be? I do like that counties are a little more prominent than on

Re: [OSM-talk] Mapnik Lowzoom TIles - proof of concept

2013-07-06 Thread Christian Quest
I slightly modified the boundary rendering I also added islands and archipelago rendering, which makes seas a bit less empty... Example: http://tile.openstreetmap.fr/?zoom=7lat=58.13383lon=-2.9452layers=B0FFF Work still in progress... and feedback (with permalinks) welcome ! 2013/7/4

Re: [OSM-talk] Mapnik Lowzoom TIles - proof of concept

2013-07-06 Thread Christoph Hormann
On Saturday 06 July 2013, Christian Quest wrote: I slightly modified the boundary rendering I also added islands and archipelago rendering, which makes seas a bit less empty... Example: http://tile.openstreetmap.fr/?zoom=7lat=58.13383lon=-2.9452layers= B0FFF I very much like the island

Re: [OSM-talk] Mapnik Lowzoom TIles - proof of concept

2013-07-06 Thread RainerU
Am 06.07.2013 11:02, schrieb Christian Quest: I slightly modified the boundary rendering As in the OSM Mapnik style, rendering of admin_level=3 boundaries seems to be identical to the one for admin_level=2 boundaries, which may lead to misundertandings for countries where level 3 is used, such

Re: [OSM-talk] Mapnik Lowzoom TIles - proof of concept

2013-07-04 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org wrote: http://fred.dev.openstreetmap.org/lowzoom/ I have updated these tiles with current data. (I had somehow lost the code that produced the tiles and had to reverse engineer my way back from the old tiles... the year-old tiles are still available from

Re: [OSM-talk] Mapnik Lowzoom TIles - proof of concept

2013-07-04 Thread Christoph Hormann
On Thursday 04 July 2013, Tirkon wrote: [...] The first priority for rendering could be the admin level. Within the admin level at first the towns with a capital tag are rendered wirh a star next to the name. If this is space-kompetitiv at a given zoom level, the winner will be decided on the

Re: [OSM-talk] Mapnik Lowzoom TIles - proof of concept

2013-07-04 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2013/7/4 Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org On 07/04/2013 02:00 AM, Tirkon wrote: I am not sure: Do you want to replace rhe lowzoom levels at osm.org? I think the lowzoom levels at osm.org look very bland and my approach attempts to fix that I partly agree (have thought that for a long

Re: [OSM-talk] Mapnik Lowzoom TIles - proof of concept

2013-07-04 Thread Tom Hughes
On 04/07/13 09:39, Christoph Hormann wrote: The thing is the standard osm.org map is meant to allow near real time updates and compromises rendering quality for that. But there is very little actual real time data in the rendering at the lowest zoom levels anyway - none in 0 and 1, only labels

Re: [OSM-talk] Mapnik Lowzoom TIles - proof of concept

2013-07-04 Thread Christian Quest
Based on Frederik lowzoom idea, I started improving the low zooms on our OSM-FR style... Here is zoom 7 (others are in the render_list queue): http://tile.openstreetmap.fr/?zoom=7lat=46.88069lon=3.13697layers=B0FFF Here is how I did it: - modify my OSM-FR to remove all labels and boundary at

Re: [OSM-talk] Mapnik Lowzoom TIles - proof of concept

2013-07-04 Thread Christoph Hormann
On Thursday 04 July 2013, Tom Hughes wrote: Low zooms (0 to 12) are not actually updated in real time anyway - they are only updated periodically by a batch job. But you can still trigger a rerender using /dirty. Greetings, -- Christoph Hormann http://www.imagico.de/

Re: [OSM-talk] Mapnik Lowzoom TIles - proof of concept

2013-07-04 Thread Tom Hughes
On 04/07/13 10:48, Christoph Hormann wrote: On Thursday 04 July 2013, Tom Hughes wrote: Low zooms (0 to 12) are not actually updated in real time anyway - they are only updated periodically by a batch job. But you can still trigger a rerender using /dirty. At the moment you probably can,

Re: [OSM-talk] Mapnik Lowzoom TIles - proof of concept

2013-07-04 Thread Tirkon
Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org wrote: The first priority for rendering could be the admin level. Certainly an idea worth pursuing, however some magic would have to be applied to match place tags (usually nodes - they will have a population or capital tag) with admininistrative boundaries

Re: [OSM-talk] Mapnik Lowzoom TIles - proof of concept

2013-07-04 Thread colliar
Am 04.07.2013 11:18, schrieb Christian Quest: Based on Frederik lowzoom idea, I started improving the low zooms on our OSM-FR style... Here is zoom 7 (others are in the render_list queue): http://tile.openstreetmap.fr/?zoom=7lat=46.88069lon=3.13697layers=B0FFF Here is how I did it: -

Re: [OSM-talk] Mapnik Lowzoom TIles - proof of concept

2013-07-04 Thread Michael Kugelmann
Am 04.07.2013 11:18, schrieb Christian Quest: Here is zoom 7 (others are in the render_list queue): to me this looks really nice and a huge improvement to the current OSM default lowzoom rendering! Best regards, Michael. ___ talk mailing list

Re: [OSM-talk] Mapnik Lowzoom TIles - proof of concept

2013-07-03 Thread colliar
Am 01.07.2013 22:32, schrieb Joseph Reeves: Hi Frederik, I really liked this when I saw it last year; am pleased to see it back on the mailing list! To be honest, I prefer the last year's version, but only because of one feature: country borders. I often use the MapQuest Open tiles, for

Re: [OSM-talk] Mapnik Lowzoom TIles - proof of concept

2013-07-01 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
On Sat, Jun 29, 2013 at 4:32 PM, Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org wrote: On 12.03.2012 08:56, Frederik Ramm wrote: There's nothing keeping one from applying the Tiles@Home lowzoom proces http://fred.dev.openstreetmap.**org/lowzoom/http://fred.dev.openstreetmap.org/lowzoom/ Nice. Those

Re: [OSM-talk] Mapnik Lowzoom TIles - proof of concept

2013-07-01 Thread Joseph Reeves
Hi Frederik, I really liked this when I saw it last year; am pleased to see it back on the mailing list! To be honest, I prefer the last year's version, but only because of one feature: country borders. I often use the MapQuest Open tiles, for example, at low zooms because they show borders much

Re: [OSM-talk] Mapnik Lowzoom TIles - proof of concept

2013-06-30 Thread Christoph Hormann
On Sunday 30 June 2013, Frederik Ramm wrote: I have updated these tiles with current data. (I had somehow lost the code that produced the tiles and had to reverse engineer my way back from the old tiles... the year-old tiles are still available from the layer switcher.) Hello Fred, what

Re: [OSM-talk] Mapnik Lowzoom TIles - proof of concept

2013-06-30 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, On 30.06.2013 10:27, Christoph Hormann wrote: what method did you use for resizing the tiles? It seems to be different in the new and the old tiles emphasizing the line features now. Yes, I simply didn't manage to reproduce last year's version exactly. What I do is precisely the

Re: [OSM-talk] Mapnik Lowzoom TIles - proof of concept

2013-06-30 Thread Christoph Hormann
On Sunday 30 June 2013, Frederik Ramm wrote: * To produce the raw tiles for z-1 (which are never visible but only used as an input for z-2 tiles later), I not only downscale the tiles on z, but after that, use ImageMagick's Compose function with a mode of Darken to repeat the placement of

Re: [OSM-talk] Mapnik Lowzoom TIles - proof of concept

2013-06-29 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, On 12.03.2012 08:56, Frederik Ramm wrote: There's nothing keeping one from applying the Tiles@Home lowzoom process to a slight variation of our standard Mapnik style however, and out comes this (for zoom levels 0-8; from z9 on, the standard Mapnik style looks fine):

Re: [OSM-talk] Mapnik Lowzoom TIles - proof of concept

2012-04-28 Thread Dmitry Marakasov
* Frederik Ramm (frede...@remote.org) wrote: There's nothing keeping one from applying the Tiles@Home lowzoom process to a slight variation of our standard Mapnik style however, and out comes this (for zoom levels 0-8; from z9 on, the standard Mapnik style looks fine):

Re: [OSM-talk] Mapnik Lowzoom TIles - proof of concept

2012-03-17 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, On 03/12/2012 08:56 AM, Frederik Ramm wrote: There's nothing keeping one from applying the Tiles@Home lowzoom process to a slight variation of our standard Mapnik style however, and out comes this (for zoom levels 0-8; from z9 on, the standard Mapnik style looks fine):

Re: [OSM-talk] Mapnik Lowzoom TIles - proof of concept

2012-03-17 Thread sabas88
2012/3/17 Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org Hi, On 03/12/2012 08:56 AM, Frederik Ramm wrote: There's nothing keeping one from applying the Tiles@Home lowzoom process to a slight variation of our standard Mapnik style however, and out comes this (for zoom levels 0-8; from z9 on, the

Re: [OSM-talk] Mapnik Lowzoom TIles - proof of concept

2012-03-17 Thread Steve Bennett
There's nothing keeping one from applying the Tiles@Home lowzoom process to a slight variation of our standard Mapnik style however, and out comes this (for zoom levels 0-8; from z9 on, the standard Mapnik style looks fine): http://fred.dev.openstreetmap.org/lowzoom/ I love it. Australia is

Re: [OSM-talk] Mapnik Lowzoom TIles - proof of concept

2012-03-13 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
Am 13. März 2012 00:20 schrieb Stephan Knauss o...@stephans-server.de: The strength of OSM is not in displaying landuse which we typically import from somewhere. This rendering is emphasizing the wrong aspect of OSM. around here we typically map the landuses by ourselves (aerial imagery and

Re: [OSM-talk] Mapnik Lowzoom TIles - proof of concept

2012-03-13 Thread hbogner
On 03/12/2012 10:21 AM, Erik Johansson wrote: On Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 08:56, Frederik Rammfrede...@remote.org wrote: There's nothing keeping one from applying the Tiles@Home lowzoom process to a slight variation of our standard Mapnik style however, and out comes this (for zoom levels 0-8;

Re: [OSM-talk] Mapnik Lowzoom TIles - proof of concept

2012-03-13 Thread Janko Mihelić
2012/3/12 Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org http://fred.dev.openstreetmap.org/lowzoom/ The land cover looks great. I would maybe add country borders and remove region labels. If not remove, then make different than country labels. It's a bit of a mess like this. Janko

[OSM-talk] Mapnik Lowzoom TIles - proof of concept

2012-03-12 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, one thing I particularly liked about the now-deceased Tiles@Home style was the lowzoom tiles which, in contrast to our rather bland Mapnik tiles http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=52.3lon=7.8zoom=5layers=M or those beefed up by terrain colouring

Re: [OSM-talk] Mapnik Lowzoom TIles - proof of concept

2012-03-12 Thread Erik Johansson
On Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 08:56, Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org wrote: There's nothing keeping one from applying the Tiles@Home lowzoom process to a slight variation of our standard Mapnik style however, and out comes this (for zoom levels 0-8; from z9 on, the standard Mapnik style looks

Re: [OSM-talk] Mapnik Lowzoom TIles - proof of concept

2012-03-12 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, On 03/12/12 10:21, Erik Johansson wrote: I'm guessing most of the terrain pixels are Corine Land cover? The only problem I have with this is that it will make the Corine import go faster in all those white areas. Yes, that must not be encouraged. I think that if we make roads more

Re: [OSM-talk] Mapnik Lowzoom TIles - proof of concept

2012-03-12 Thread Joakim Fors
On 12 mar 2012, at 11:22, Frederik Ramm wrote: Hi, On 03/12/12 10:21, Erik Johansson wrote: I'm guessing most of the terrain pixels are Corine Land cover? The only problem I have with this is that it will make the Corine import go faster in all those white areas. Yes, that must not be

Re: [OSM-talk] Mapnik Lowzoom TIles - proof of concept

2012-03-12 Thread Stephan Knauss
On 12.03.2012 11:22, Frederik Ramm wrote: Yes, that must not be encouraged. I think that if we make roads more prominent, then the non-landcover areas will look better. I also think it does focus to much on natural=* How would it look if adding highway=motorway,trunk,primary to the

Re: [OSM-talk] Mapnik Lowzoom TIles - proof of concept

2012-03-12 Thread Mike Dupont
that looks great fred, and yes Erik, I recognize the corine import that i did there in southeast europe. mike On Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 10:21 AM, Erik Johansson e...@kth.se wrote: I'm guessing most of the terrain pixels are Corine Land cover? The -- James Michael DuPont Member of Free Libre

Re: [OSM-talk] Mapnik Lowzoom TIles - proof of concept

2012-03-12 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, On 03/12/2012 09:18 PM, Stephan Knauss wrote: How would it look if adding highway=motorway,trunk,primary to the rendering? Maybe in light shades of grey? All these *are* already on the rendering; the rendering is based on plain z9 tiles which are just bitmap reduced. They're just not

Re: [OSM-talk] Mapnik Lowzoom TIles - proof of concept

2012-03-12 Thread Stephan Knauss
On 12.03.2012 22:05, Frederik Ramm wrote: On 03/12/2012 09:18 PM, Stephan Knauss wrote: How would it look if adding highway=motorway,trunk,primary to the rendering? Maybe in light shades of grey? All these *are* already on the rendering; the rendering is based on plain z9 tiles which are just

Re: [OSM-talk] Mapnik Lowzoom TIles - proof of concept

2012-03-12 Thread Russ Nelson
Stephan Knauss writes: ... displaying landuse which we typically import from somewhere. Careful with that we Eugene[1]! Some of us typically enter landuse[2] from our knowledge of the use of the land. [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Careful_with_That_Axe,_Eugene [2]