Re: [OSM-talk] online survey about the OSM community

2014-08-23 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, If you are at least 18 years of age and speak English, [...] The same message has meanwhile been posted to a whole lot of national OSM mailing lists, with an additional ** apologies for cross-posting ** at the top. If you know it is something that you shouldn't be doing, then sticking an

Re: [OSM-talk] online survey about the OSM community

2014-08-23 Thread john whelan
Looking at what they are doing I'd say the information being dug out will be of value to the OSM community and help us understand a little more about the people who add value to the maps. It might even help us on the retention rate and bring the experience of the average mapper up a little. It's

Re: [OSM-talk] online survey about the OSM community

2014-08-23 Thread Christian Quest
Studies and surveys are interesting for a better understanding of our community, but I'm a bit afraid that the results of this one will be highly biased by one single thing: language. OSM is already very english centric and having a survey that is only available in english won't help understand

Re: [OSM-talk] online survey about the OSM community

2014-08-23 Thread Christoph Hormann
On Saturday 23 August 2014, john whelan wrote: Looking at what they are doing I'd say the information being dug out will be of value to the OSM community and help us understand a little more about the people who add value to the maps. It might even help us on the retention rate and bring the

Re: [OSM-talk] online survey about the OSM community

2014-08-23 Thread moltonel 3x Combo
On 23/08/2014, john whelan jwhelan0...@gmail.com wrote: In an ideal world the way to get a proper random sample would be to select OSM mappers randomly then message them. Hopefully you'd get better than 90% response rate to keep it statistically meaningful. Reality is you might be lucky to

Re: [OSM-talk] online survey about the OSM community

2014-08-23 Thread Stephan Knauss
On 23.08.2014 15:17, Christian Quest wrote: OSM is already very english centric and having a survey that is only available in english won't help understand the OSM community worldwide, just a part of it. It would be interesting to have the same survey being done in another language and compare

Re: [OSM-talk] online survey about the OSM community

2014-08-23 Thread JB
Hum, I was finally curious of what I would find there. I find this: It is important that OpenStreetMap keep the use of maps non-commercial. Is this really a serious question, or a serious survey, or am I just completly mistaking about OSM since the beginning, or is my English not as good as I

Re: [OSM-talk] online survey about the OSM community

2014-08-23 Thread john whelan
It is important that OpenStreetMap keep the use of maps non-commercial. Either the survey doesn't understand about OSM or since it does have a subject matter specialist on board I'd be inclined to think its surveying the perception of the mappers. I strongly suspect many think it is totally

Re: [OSM-talk] online survey about the OSM community

2014-08-23 Thread JB
Ok, then it is the last option, my english is not good enough for this survey. But in this case, I suspect it will also be the case for many many other non-english peopleā€¦ Of course people should be able to make money out of OSM. But as pointed out previously, in some countries, it seems that

Re: [OSM-talk] online survey about the OSM community

2014-08-23 Thread Stephan Knauss
On 23.08.2014 16:14, JB wrote: Hum, I was finally curious of what I would find there. I find this: It is important that OpenStreetMap keep the use of maps non-commercial. Is this really a serious question, or a serious survey, or am I just completly mistaking about OSM since the beginning, or is

Re: [OSM-talk] online survey about the OSM community

2014-08-23 Thread OSMR
We understand that as a member of multiple lists some OSM contributors may have received the survey invitation more than once and that may have felt like a disrespectful attempt to impose on ones personal time and inbox space. That was definitely not our intent and although we tried to be

Re: [OSM-talk] online survey about the OSM community

2014-08-23 Thread Clifford Snow
On Sat, Aug 23, 2014 at 10:51 AM, OSMR osm_resea...@mail.com wrote: We understand that as a member of multiple lists some OSM contributors may have received the survey invitation more than once and that may have felt like a disrespectful attempt to impose on one's personal time and inbox

Re: [OSM-talk] online survey about the OSM community

2014-08-23 Thread Richard Weait
clickhole.com has reported that a Local Mapper has responded to misguided surveys by deleting the campus data of the offending institution and replacing it with amenity=kindergarten. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org

Re: [OSM-talk] online survey about the OSM community

2014-08-20 Thread Nick Whitelegg
Date: 19/08/2014 09:38PM Cc: Talk Openstreetmap talk@openstreetmap.org, cdimo...@mail.sdsu.edu Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] online survey about the OSM community I too found the questions in the middle of the survey a bit odd. .. To the extent that I needed to re-read the email about the study

Re: [OSM-talk] online survey about the OSM community

2014-08-20 Thread Lester Caine
On 20/08/14 09:27, Nick Whitelegg wrote: I have to admit I filled the thing in - I assumed the middle questions were perhaps psychology related (psychology of OSM users, etc). It never asks for name, email address, phone, place of work etc, town etc. - just age. Didn't really strike me as

Re: [OSM-talk] online survey about the OSM community

2014-08-20 Thread Tony
Helleranta.com jaa...@helleranta.com wrote: - To: Clifford Snow cliff...@snowandsnow.us From: Jaakko Helleranta.com jaa...@helleranta.com Date: 19/08/2014 09:38PM Cc: Talk Openstreetmap talk@openstreetmap.org, cdimo...@mail.sdsu.edu Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] online survey about the OSM community

Re: [OSM-talk] online survey about the OSM community

2014-08-20 Thread john whelan
It is a genuine survey, just those middle questions did not prompt any sensible answers which is why I gave up :) It sounds silly but how does one tell if it is a genuine academic survey or not? I'd like to see an https link to a known trusted web site and not just the OSM wiki. Has the survey

Re: [OSM-talk] online survey about the OSM community

2014-08-20 Thread Azca_ T.P.
Hi there, There is the name of Prof. Claudiu Dimofte, and the given mail address matches with his own page on the university website [1]. The subdomain [2] of the given URL seems be owned by the same university, and the main domain [3] is a Online Survey service website. I don't think it's a kind

Re: [OSM-talk] online survey about the OSM community

2014-08-20 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, On 08/19/2014 10:31 PM, Jaakko Helleranta.com wrote: Should we have a Code of Ethics for researching the OSM community? I give you Muki Haklay's SOTM-EU 2011 talk: http://povesham.wordpress.com/2011/07/16/observing-from-afar-or-joining-the-action-osm-and-giscience-research/ He formulated

Re: [OSM-talk] online survey about the OSM community

2014-08-20 Thread sabas88
Mildly off topic, I read this article yesterday http://www.theverge.com/2014/8/19/6044403/derp-research-partnership-launched-by-reddit-twitch-imgur-fark-stack-exchange They aim giving transparency to the research into their online communities as far as I can understand. I took the survey and

[OSM-talk] online survey about the OSM community

2014-08-19 Thread OSMR
Dear OSM contributor, If you are at least 18 years of age and speak English, you are invited to take part in an online survey about the OSM community pursued by faculty at San Diego State University (contact info below). In this research, we are trying to understand what makes a highly diverse

Re: [OSM-talk] online survey about the OSM community

2014-08-19 Thread Lester Caine
On 19/08/14 17:47, OSMR wrote: Thank you in advance for your potential participation and apologies for the lengthy message in case you are not interested. I gave up before I got half way - just seems like a load of useless crap? Anybody actually managed the whole thing? -- Lester Caine -

Re: [OSM-talk] online survey about the OSM community

2014-08-19 Thread Clifford Snow
I had the same issue. It stopped being about OSM. Which made me suspect that his intent was other than what was announced. I'd be willing to help the OP if he was agreeable to suggestions. Clifford Typos by tablrt On Aug 19, 2014 11:15 AM, Lester Caine les...@lsces.co.uk wrote: On 19/08/14

Re: [OSM-talk] online survey about the OSM community

2014-08-19 Thread john whelan
It's actually quite an interesting survey by looking at the questions you can often get an understanding of what is in the questioner's mind. One of the most difficult bits is getting a good sample so please go back and complete it even if it doesn't appear to make sense to you. It does show a

Re: [OSM-talk] online survey about the OSM community

2014-08-19 Thread Jaakko Helleranta.com
I too found the questions in the middle of the survey a bit odd. .. To the extent that I needed to re-read the email about the study + the Research page of the wiki to evaluate if this was a valid research of just an odd phishing attempt. And while I ended up trusting that this is a legit request

Re: [OSM-talk] online survey about the OSM community

2014-08-19 Thread Jaakko Helleranta.com
On Tue, Aug 19, 2014 at 2:31 PM, Jaakko Helleranta.com jaa...@helleranta.com wrote: Should we have a Code of Ethics for researching the OSM community? Picking up from my own question: When looking at the Research page in the wiki I was actually trying to look for a section that would list

Re: [OSM-talk] online survey about the OSM community

2014-08-19 Thread john whelan
I was surprised by the question about income wasn't the last one, traditionally once people see such a question they stop answering the survey and also consider the survey intrusive, but that is just a question of the structure. The other thing of course is that it is one that doesn't always get

Re: [OSM-talk] online survey about the OSM community

2014-08-19 Thread Lester Caine
On 19/08/14 23:31, john whelan wrote: I was surprised by the question about income wasn't the last one, traditionally once people see such a question they stop answering the survey and also consider the survey intrusive, but that is just a question of the structure. The other thing of course

Re: [OSM-talk] online survey about the OSM community

2014-08-19 Thread Serge Wroclawski
I have some questions about this survey. First of all, you never explain what this survey is for. Is it academic, is it commercial? You mention names of professors, but not institutions. You also never explicitly state what you're studying. Knowing these would put me at ease. Secondly, you don't

[Talk-it] Fwd: [OSM-talk] online survey about the OSM community

2014-08-19 Thread gianfranco gliozzo
Se sapete parlare inglese. Ciaoo -- Forwarded message -- From: OSMR osm_resea...@mail.com Date: 19 August 2014 17:47 Subject: [OSM-talk] online survey about the OSM community To: t...@openstreetmap.org Dear OSM contributor, If you are at least 18 years of age and speak English