Re: [OSM-talk] openmaps.eu

2010-01-14 Thread Jean-Marc Liotier
Emilie Laffray wrote: Unless they remove their NC (Non Commercial Use Only) clause, colloborating with openmaps.eu http://openmaps.eu is a non sequitur. Zaka, what do you think ? Is there any way that Openmaps.eu might in the future evolve toward removing the non-commercial clause, or is that

Re: [OSM-talk] openmaps.eu

2010-01-14 Thread Felix Hartmann
On 14.01.2010 14:56, Jean-Marc Liotier wrote: Emilie Laffray wrote: Unless they remove their NC (Non Commercial Use Only) clause, colloborating with openmaps.euhttp://openmaps.eu is a non sequitur. Zaka, what do you think ? Is there any way that Openmaps.eu might in the future

Re: [OSM-talk] openmaps.eu

2010-01-11 Thread Niklas Cholmkvist
Unless they remove their NC (Non Commercial Use Only) clause Yes. That clause was the exact reason I left the mapping project wikimapia to search for a more free/libre mapping collaboration project(I was not expecting that most of the software used in OpenStreetMap was/is floss, and it was a

Re: [OSM-talk] openmaps.eu

2010-01-05 Thread Jean-Marc Liotier
Jean-Marc Liotier wrote: Andreas Labres wrote: Patrick from talk-at found this by chance: http://openmaps.eu/ They seem to be reinventing the wheel, somehow... I sent their proeminent members (papa71, kepenu, KiVi, peter68, Trackman and BigMick) a gentle enquiry through their forum's

Re: [OSM-talk] openmaps.eu

2010-01-05 Thread andrzej zaborowski
2010/1/5 Jean-Marc Liotier j...@liotier.org: As you can see, osm and omp is created roughly parallel in time, but if we look back to the root (turistautak.hu) we're older than osm. And we have different aims as we can see. - our primary aim is to create maps for portable gps devices. We have

Re: [OSM-talk] openmaps.eu

2010-01-05 Thread Emilie Laffray
2010/1/5 andrzej zaborowski balr...@gmail.com So I don't have any answer to the question of how to join forces with openmaps.eu. There's one practical suggestion that I'd like to make: Unless they remove their NC (Non Commercial Use Only) clause, colloborating with openmaps.eu is a non

Re: [OSM-talk] openmaps.eu

2009-12-18 Thread Steve Bennett
On Fri, Dec 18, 2009 at 4:29 PM, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.comwrote: While it's a noble pursuit to help a specific demographic I think it's important not to exclude others in the process, most areas I've lived in in the last 12 months have no NearMap coverage, there is some coverage

Re: [OSM-talk] openmaps.eu

2009-12-18 Thread John Smith
2009/12/18 Steve Bennett stevag...@gmail.com: On Fri, Dec 18, 2009 at 4:29 PM, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com wrote: While it's a noble pursuit to help a specific demographic I think it's important not to exclude others in the process, most areas I've lived in in the last 12 months

Re: [OSM-talk] openmaps.eu

2009-12-18 Thread Steve Bennett
On Fri, Dec 18, 2009 at 7:34 PM, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.comwrote: This is a documentation issue, not a viewing issue, Buh? the OSM website is a bit disjointed, once a local entity is sorted out I'm planning to get a localised a website setup and from there we can start to

Re: [OSM-talk] openmaps.eu

2009-12-18 Thread John Smith
2009/12/18 Steve Bennett stevag...@gmail.com: Whatever you like, but I'm not seeing the link. I/you/anyone could fix the wiki now...why the need for a local entity? Why do you really want to create a new website? Because it's easier that trying to spend time/effort getting the main OSM site

Re: [OSM-talk] openmaps.eu

2009-12-17 Thread John Smith
2009/12/17 Kenneth Gonsalves law...@au-kbc.org: On Thursday 17 Dec 2009 1:03:16 pm Andreas Labres wrote: Patrick from talk-at found this by chance: http://openmaps.eu/ They seem to be reinventing the wheel, somehow... license looks proprietary From their copyright page: As our name

Re: [OSM-talk] openmaps.eu

2009-12-17 Thread Steve Bennett
Hmm, no one thought of registering Open Maps as a trademark as well as OpenStreetMap? On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 6:33 PM, Andreas Labres l...@lab.at wrote: Patrick from talk-at found this by chance: http://openmaps.eu/ They seem to be reinventing the wheel, somehow... /al

Re: [OSM-talk] openmaps.eu

2009-12-17 Thread John Smith
2009/12/17 Steve Bennett stevag...@gmail.com: Hmm, no one thought of registering Open Maps as a trademark as well as OpenStreetMap? Weren't you the one agreeing with me that the words open and free have been abused too much and are too ambigious the other day?

Re: [OSM-talk] openmaps.eu

2009-12-17 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, Steve Bennett wrote: Hmm, no one thought of registering Open Maps as a trademark as well as OpenStreetMap? What makes you think that if OpenStreetMap is a term deemed to general to work as a trademark, Open Maps would somehow work? Bye Frederik

Re: [OSM-talk] openmaps.eu

2009-12-17 Thread Ian Dees
As much as it is disappointing to see others work on a similar/the same project, I don't think it makes sense for a group of people that have open in their title to block others from doing something through trademark law. On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 6:40 AM, Steve Bennett stevag...@gmail.com wrote:

Re: [OSM-talk] openmaps.eu

2009-12-17 Thread Nick Whitelegg
Hmm, no one thought of registering Open Maps as a trademark as well as OpenStreetMap? What makes you think that if OpenStreetMap is a term deemed to general to work as a trademark, Open Maps would somehow work? In any case, we are supposed to be open. Trying to trademark names merely

Re: [OSM-talk] openmaps.eu

2009-12-17 Thread Steve Bennett
On Fri, Dec 18, 2009 at 12:35 AM, Nick Whitelegg nick.whitel...@solent.ac.uk wrote: In any case, we are supposed to be open. Trying to trademark names merely similar to our own is one of the most closed, monopolistic actions that it's possible to take. The idea of OSM is to collect and make

Re: [OSM-talk] openmaps.eu

2009-12-17 Thread Jean-Marc Liotier
Andreas Labres wrote: Patrick from talk-at found this by chance: http://openmaps.eu/ They seem to be reinventing the wheel, somehow... I sent their proeminent members (papa71, kepenu, KiVi, peter68, Trackman and BigMick) a gentle enquiry through their forum's internal mail system; that's

Re: [OSM-talk] openmaps.eu

2009-12-17 Thread Erik Lundin
Yeah! Maybe we have to increase our efforts to announce that we exist? I joined OSM in May 2008, but would have done it earlier if I had found out about it before. /Erik Andreas Labres skrev: They seem to be reinventing the wheel, somehow... ___

Re: [OSM-talk] openmaps.eu

2009-12-17 Thread Erik Lundin
I just found their links page (http://openmaps.eu/links) where they link to OpenStreetMap, so they are at least aware of our project. /Erik Erik Lundin skrev: Yeah! Maybe we have to increase our efforts to announce that we exist? I joined OSM in May 2008, but would have done it earlier if I

Re: [OSM-talk] openmaps.eu

2009-12-17 Thread Steve Bennett
On Fri, Dec 18, 2009 at 1:06 PM, Erik Lundin e...@lists.lun.nu wrote: Yeah! Maybe we have to increase our efforts to announce that we exist? I joined OSM in May 2008, but would have done it earlier if I had found out about it before. I would have joined a long time ago if I had known that

Re: [OSM-talk] openmaps.eu

2009-12-17 Thread John Smith
2009/12/18 Steve Bennett stevag...@gmail.com: On Fri, Dec 18, 2009 at 1:06 PM, Erik Lundin e...@lists.lun.nu wrote: Yeah! Maybe we have to increase our efforts to announce that we exist? I joined OSM in May 2008, but would have done it earlier if I had found out about it before. I would

Re: [OSM-talk] openmaps.eu

2009-12-17 Thread Steve Bennett
On Fri, Dec 18, 2009 at 3:04 PM, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.comwrote: since working this out have you tried to improve the documentation that would have made it easier for you? I think I made one or two tiny changes. Wasn't game to make any major changes at that stage, though I have

Re: [OSM-talk] openmaps.eu

2009-12-17 Thread John Smith
2009/12/18 Steve Bennett stevag...@gmail.com: I think I made one or two tiny changes. Wasn't game to make any major changes at that stage, though I have made suggestions on talk pages. I really think there needs to be a shift away from talking about GPS'ing to talking about editing, as the

[OSM-talk] openmaps.eu

2009-12-16 Thread Andreas Labres
Patrick from talk-at found this by chance: http://openmaps.eu/ They seem to be reinventing the wheel, somehow... /al ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] openmaps.eu

2009-12-16 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves
On Thursday 17 Dec 2009 1:03:16 pm Andreas Labres wrote: Patrick from talk-at found this by chance: http://openmaps.eu/ They seem to be reinventing the wheel, somehow... license looks proprietary -- regards Kenneth Gonsalves Senior Project Officer NRC-FOSS http://nrcfosshelpline.in/web/