Re: [talk-au] How many NearMap users do you think have accepted the new CTs and ODbL?

2011-05-02 Thread Ben Kelley
I'm not sure the source tag is enouh to identify a derived work. If person A adds a way by tracing (for example) Nearmap data which gets rendered as a map, and person B adds a nearby street based on what they saw on the map plus what they know of the area (source=local_knowledge), all are

Re: [talk-au] How many NearMap users do you think have accepted the new CTs and ODbL?

2011-05-02 Thread Gary Gallagher
I'm curious about the legal position on tracing as a derived work (probably different in different countries). Perhaps Microsoft saying it does not consider tracing to be a derived work does not stem from their largess but their reading of the legal position. Amongst artist friends I've heard

Re: [talk-au] NSW Dept of Lands aerial imagery...

2011-05-02 Thread Andrew Harvey
Sure if we can convince them to use more liberal licensing it would be great. Personally I would use it for areas not covered by nearmap. I'm not sure how we can be heard from them though. I supposed we could try emailing bob.he...@lands.nsw.gov.au as it says on the page... I could also attend

Re: [talk-au] NSW Dept of Lands aerial imagery...

2011-05-02 Thread David Murn
On Mon, 2011-05-02 at 19:33 +1000, Andrew Harvey wrote: Sure if we can convince them to use more liberal licensing it would be great. Personally I would use it for areas not covered by nearmap. While not necessarily beneficial for future new OSM, it could be beneficial to any forks if they

[talk-au] OSM CTs

2011-05-02 Thread Ian Callahan
It seems to me that there is a common sense solution to all the angst about changing CTs, licencing etc. Those who believe that OSM should transmogrify into something different should fork a new project, leaving those who desire the status quo with (obviously) the staus quo. To expect those

Re: [talk-au] OSM CTs

2011-05-02 Thread Ian Callahan
On 05/02/2011 09:06 PM, John Smith wrote: On 2 May 2011 20:55, Ian Callahanigcalla...@gmail.com wrote: I realise that if OSM is to continue in its previous guise, then the time and effort expended on projects like FreeOSM will be wasted. But isn't that the best outcome? Those

Re: [talk-au] OSM CTs

2011-05-02 Thread John Smith
On 2 May 2011 22:03, Ian Callahan igcalla...@gmail.com wrote: Those pushing for changes might have expected things to result in a fork as a result of what's happened but that isn't what has happened, instead the OSM community are on the verge of splintering into many various projects