Re: [talk-au] Importing 200 emergency markers?

2021-11-25 Thread Kim Oldfield via Talk-au
Hi, The markers were installed by the railway, and are maintained by the railway. They are pole numbers attached to each telegraph pole along the railway. To help emergency services locate points along the railway Puffing Billy provided their location to ESTA with the "PBM" prefix. As the

Re: [talk-au] Importing 200 emergency markers?

2021-11-25 Thread forster
Phil Good idea, totally off topic but, go to https://www.mapillary.com/app/?lat=-37.9088066=145.3647858=17=246259583949249=photo and press play you get an animation of Puffing Billy crossing the historic trestle bridge at Selby. Sorry I didn't see any markers but someone with more

Re: [talk-au] Importing 200 emergency markers?

2021-11-25 Thread Phil Wyatt
Maybe a slow train ride will capture them on Mapillary? https://www.mapillary.com/app/user/tastrax?lat=-37.93374758=145.43984216 =17=135923665213980=photo -Original Message- From: fors...@ozonline.com.au Sent: Friday, 26 November 2021 5:26 PM To: Adam Horan Cc: OSM-Au Subject: Re:

Re: [talk-au] Importing 200 emergency markers?

2021-11-25 Thread forster
Further If the marker looks the same as the bottom photo of https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:highway%3Demergency_access_point then the dataset is https://data.gov.au/data/dataset/esta-emergency-markers/resource/44add10f-a478-4ab0-a6fa-227493663b28 Tony Hi This subject was discussed

Re: [talk-au] Importing 200 emergency markers?

2021-11-25 Thread forster
Hi This subject was discussed in October. The dataset they are sharing is likely to be https://data.gov.au/data/dataset/esta-emergency-markers/resource/44add10f-a478-4ab0-a6fa-227493663b28 and it was determined that we do not have the right licence to use this data. I say likely to be the same

Re: [talk-au] Importing 200 emergency markers?

2021-11-25 Thread Adam Horan
Are these emergency markers created and maintained by the Puffing Billy Railway? If not they might be sharing a dataset with you that they don't have permission to share for this purpose? Adam On Fri, 26 Nov 2021 at 16:24, wrote: > Maybe just create a simple page on the wiki describing what

Re: [talk-au] M11 naming

2021-11-25 Thread Adam Horan
@Dian where were the roadsigns that you saw? Maybe someone can get out and take some pictures. >From VicNames it seems that south of Springvale Road it's called Mornington Peninsula Freeway, but north of Springvale it's Mordialloc Freeway. Continue further south and it's Peninsula Link, and then

Re: [talk-au] Importing 200 emergency markers?

2021-11-25 Thread osm.talk-au
Maybe just create a simple page on the wiki describing what you intent to do along with a link to information about the received permission? Just to make it easier to find in the future if there are any concerns. From: Andrew Harvey Sent: Friday, 26 November 2021 13:46 To: Kim Oldfield

Re: [talk-au] M11 naming

2021-11-25 Thread Brendan Barnes
Unfortunately the Major Road Projects Victoria website is not compatible with the ODbL, as "no part may be reproduced or used for any commercial purposes whatsoever". The press release on their site has no other licencing information, so we should treat it as copyright and not use it as a source

Re: [talk-au] Enriching OpenStreetMap with open data

2021-11-25 Thread John Luan
Hi Andrew, Yes, I will fellow the guideline to prepare this bulk import, and I will get peer reviewef in this group before we sumbit the changes. Cheers, John On Fri, 26 Nov 2021, 3:42 pm Andrew Harvey, wrote: > > > On Fri, 26 Nov 2021 at 15:27, John Luan wrote: > >> And we will have another

Re: [talk-au] Enriching OpenStreetMap with open data

2021-11-25 Thread Andrew Harvey
On Fri, 26 Nov 2021 at 15:27, John Luan wrote: > And we will have another follow up session after we finish the bulk > import, and we will talk about our bulk import experience. > I wasn't able to join the whole talk, but if you're planning on doing a bulk import then please make sure you check

Re: [talk-au] Enriching OpenStreetMap with open data

2021-11-25 Thread John Luan
Thank you Brendan, unfortunately I forgot to record this session. And we will have another follow up session after we finish the bulk import, and we will talk about our bulk import experience. On Fri, 26 Nov 2021 at 15:17, Brendan Barnes wrote: > That was an informative session. John, thanks

Re: [talk-au] Enriching OpenStreetMap with open data

2021-11-25 Thread Brendan Barnes
That was an informative session. John, thanks for presenting! If anyone has other OSM-based presentations, feel free to let the list know. Cheers. On Wed, 24 Nov 2021 at 16:41, John Luan wrote: > Hi Map Fans, > > Just a reminder, tonight at 7pm Melbourne time. A meetup for how to enrich > osm

Re: [talk-au] Unconnected ways

2021-11-25 Thread Brendan Barnes
We've previously used proposed tag fuzzy=[metres] for other "non track" routes, which may be of assistance. On Fri, 26 Nov 2021 at 14:36, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: > More inclined to use description=invisible route on beach sand. > On 26/11/21 2:12 pm,

Re: [talk-au] Importing 200 emergency markers?

2021-11-25 Thread Andrew Harvey
That sounds fine to me, this email consulting with the community, informing of your plan and what steps you've taken is enough in my opinion. I would ask if you could share more information about the permission you obtained? So long as you have sufficient rights to submit the data under the OSM

Re: [talk-au] Unconnected ways

2021-11-25 Thread Warin
More inclined to use description=invisible route on beach sand. On 26/11/21 2:12 pm, osm.talk...@thorsten.engler.id.au wrote: Possibly path=link? *From:*Andrew Harvey *Sent:* Friday, 26 November 2021 12:34 *To:* Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> *Cc:* OSM Australian Talk List *Subject:* Re:

Re: [talk-au] Lots of identical changesets for toll roads (possibly incorrect).

2021-11-25 Thread Warin
On 26/11/21 11:36 am, Jake Coppinger wrote: Hello, I noticed I was getting bad OSM car directions which avoided General Holmes Dr (the east/west road under Sydney airport). I checked OverpassTurbo and it's been marked as a toll road (https://overpass-turbo.eu/s/1ds0

Re: [talk-au] Unconnected ways

2021-11-25 Thread osm.talk-au
Possibly path=link? From: Andrew Harvey Sent: Friday, 26 November 2021 12:34 To: Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> Cc: OSM Australian Talk List Subject: Re: [talk-au] Unconnected ways On Fri, 26 Nov 2021 at 11:54, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com > wrote: Same

Re: [talk-au] Lots of identical changesets for toll roads (possibly incorrect).

2021-11-25 Thread Andrew Harvey
I haven't looked at their other changesets, but I've reverted this one to remove the toll=yes on the untolled section. On Fri, 26 Nov 2021 at 11:40, Jake Coppinger wrote: > Hello, > > I noticed I was getting bad OSM car directions which avoided General > Holmes Dr (the east/west road under

Re: [talk-au] Unconnected ways

2021-11-25 Thread Andrew Harvey
On Fri, 26 Nov 2021 at 11:54, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: > Same problem where a bushwalking route uses a beach. I was told IIRC it > is ok to use highway=path with trail_visibility=no. > Agreed, and while I still don't think it's perfect, it's probably the best compromise at the

Re: [talk-au] Unconnected ways

2021-11-25 Thread stevea
I've seen the solution Warin notes here in USA, too. "Walk along the beach" (somewhat lengthily) yet the tide removes all the sandy footprints of any implicit or explicit "trail." It's a route, though one that is invisible upon the ground. But not among people who say "yep, mate, I'm walking

Re: [talk-au] Unconnected ways

2021-11-25 Thread Warin
On 26/11/21 7:16 am, Tom Brennan wrote: Quick question on unconnected ways. I've just mapped one: https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/1006252416 Probably best viewed in edit mode with an aerial photo underlay. This way is a physical path between two open grassed areas that themselves have no

Re: [talk-au] Lots of identical changesets for toll roads (possibly incorrect).

2021-11-25 Thread stevea
I'm mixed in this reply and not quite able to invest the time right now on the necessary research to revert. On the one hand, the changeset is 3 months old and that's plenty of time for a snarl to result from revert, because of temporal drift. On the other hand, the geographical area is

[talk-au] Lots of identical changesets for toll roads (possibly incorrect).

2021-11-25 Thread Jake Coppinger
Hello, I noticed I was getting bad OSM car directions which avoided General Holmes Dr (the east/west road under Sydney airport). I checked OverpassTurbo and it's been marked as a toll road (https://overpass-turbo.eu/s/1ds0), which is incorrect as I drive there all the time - the toll road starts

[talk-au] Unconnected ways

2021-11-25 Thread Tom Brennan
Quick question on unconnected ways. I've just mapped one: https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/1006252416 Probably best viewed in edit mode with an aerial photo underlay. This way is a physical path between two open grassed areas that themselves have no discernible paths. So at this stage, all I

[talk-au] Importing 200 emergency markers?

2021-11-25 Thread Kim Oldfield via Talk-au
Hi, I have a list of 200 emergency marker locations along 22km of the Puffing Billy Railway which were provided to me by the railway with permission to include them in OSM. I've been reading through https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Import - most of which appears to be geared toward

Re: [talk-au] Use of macrons in name:en

2021-11-25 Thread Luke Stewart
Similar to the case with New Zealand, I would support the use of macrons if they are either official or used on-the-ground in terms of signage etc. Regardless, having a namespace tag for English and Pitjantjatjara is definitely a good idea. On Wed, 24 Nov 2021 at 04:32, Andrew Harvey wrote: >