Re: [talk-au] Question about using NSW Speed Zone Data in OSM

2024-02-21 Thread Andy Townsend
On 21/02/2024 11:45, Mark Pulley wrote: I’ve got some further info on how this user has been editing (see comment on changeset https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/117791362 ) In short, Harsimranjit works for an un-named company. Unspecified people can report an incorrect speed limit on a

Re: [talk-au] Deletion of informal paths by NSW NPWS

2024-01-02 Thread Andy Townsend
On 02/01/2024 22:03, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: Only thought there is should the note= possibly be a description= ? Notes are only visible to mappers on OSM, descriptions show to "everybody" (?) using it downstream. This seems to be referring to an OSM note _tag_ rather than "OSM notes"

Re: [talk-au] Deletion of informal paths by NSW NPWS

2023-10-08 Thread Andy Townsend
On 09/10/2023 00:01, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: & for some reason, Andy's reply didn't appear in my email until after I sent my own saying more or less the same thing? I cocked it up anyway - sending it from a phone as html only, so I suspect many people (including the list archive) won't see

Re: [talk-au] Deletion of informal paths by NSW NPWS

2023-10-08 Thread Andy Townsend
> The path of least harm is to let land managers remove informal paths and leave them removedI'm not actually convinced that is true.If something is visible from

Re: [talk-au] Routing problem near Albany, WA

2023-06-07 Thread Andy Townsend
On 07/06/2023 03:00, Ian Steer wrote: My Garmin GPSMAP 66i gives misleading routing instructions at a new intersection on Albany Highway near Albany when using OSM data. One thing that might be useful to know is what was used to create the Garmin .img file from the .osm data.  Control over

Re: [talk-au] [Impersonated Sender] Re: Map feedback - Australia

2023-02-17 Thread Andy Townsend
On 17/02/2023 11:33, Salim Baidoun wrote: I conducted my due diligence and came back with a solid answer to answer your question, Yes, the user will have agreed to OSM's Contributor Terms. Great, thanks! ___ Talk-au mailing list

Re: [talk-au] Map feedback - Australia

2023-02-13 Thread Andy Townsend
For the avoidance of doubt - will the user have agreed to OSM's Contributor Terms? https://wiki.osmfoundation.org/wiki/Licence/Contributor_Terms Best Regards, Andy On 13/02/2023 17:48, Salim Baidoun wrote: Hello Australia Community, In TomTom's endeavor to improve OSM, we plan to conduct

Re: [talk-au] Adding river crossings to Guidelines "road quality / 4wd-only"?

2022-08-10 Thread Andy Townsend
On 8/10/22 03:06, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: Cleared a note to add a ford / river-crossing to a road in Cape York: https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/1025490234, & added both a "ford" node, & also changed the actual river crossing to a track with 4wd only & similar tags. Wondering if we

Re: [talk-au] New OSM Discourse site: community.osm.org

2022-05-02 Thread Andy Townsend
On 02/05/2022 22:36, Andrew Davidson wrote: How do we get a category we can interact with through email? I haven't used Discource enough to picture how it works. If you enable mailing list mode in your profile, you will get emailed all messages and can reply to them by email too.  What you

Re: [talk-au] Talk-au Digest, Vol 178, Issue 55

2022-04-30 Thread Andy Townsend (ajt1...@gmail.com)
I suspect that no-one is taking the piss - depending on the mail client "reply all" will very often go to the sender cc the list. Perhaps a bit more discussion about what problems have been created might have helped (and "source=knowledge") isn't a great description of why something was changed,

[talk-au] Garmin (was Re: Wiki Clean Up Progress Update)

2022-04-18 Thread Andy Townsend
On 18/04/2022 11:25, Bob Cameron wrote: Good stuff Dian! I don't know how widespread the problem is, but Garmin GPS navigation devices see no road surface tag as sealed. This can create routing stress for the driver and possibly safety issues. Might be worth mentioning that it's far better

Re: [talk-au] Tagging bicycle on footpath laws Was: Re: HighRouleur edits

2022-04-08 Thread Andy Townsend
On 08/04/2022 06:31, Andrew Harvey wrote: On Fri, 8 Apr 2022 at 14:53, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: On Fri, 8 Apr 2022 at 12:50, Andrew Harvey wrote: I think this is getting too much into mapping regulations, we could just have no bicycle tag and leave it to data

Re: [talk-au] Map Note Flood

2022-04-04 Thread Andy Townsend
On 04/04/2022 09:41, Phil Wyatt wrote: Hi Andy, I am aware of the volunteers doing this great work. My concern was that I had not received a confirmation that the email had been received and a ticket created. This has happened once before and I was led to believe the ticket creation to be

Re: [talk-au] Map Note Flood

2022-04-04 Thread Andy Townsend
Hello, Andy from OSM's Data Working Group here. > Is there any other way to alert the Data working group? With respect, which part of "Please understand that our working group consists of volunteers only who do this job in their spare time. All incoming messages are read but processing them

Re: [talk-au] Path versus Footway

2022-02-02 Thread Andy Townsend
On 02/02/2022 11:36, Kim Oldfield via Talk-au wrote: On 2/2/22 21:45, Phil Wyatt wrote: Is there somewhere to view those defaults for Tasmania? I assume its not usually editable by mappers? See https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/2369652 Specifically the tag:

Re: [talk-au] Deletion of walking tracks/paths

2022-01-25 Thread Andy Townsend
On 25/01/2022 22:43, David Wales via Talk-au wrote: 2. Practically invisible on the ground, except for bits of red tape hanging from tree branches every 50-100 metres! Every 50-100 meters?  Luxury! :) My recollection is that the signage on the bits of the Bibbulmun Track near Denmark in WA

Re: [talk-au] Stealth import of beach names?

2021-12-02 Thread Andy Townsend
On 02/12/2021 10:35, Adam Horan wrote: In the last 2 weeks a handful of users have added or edited 182 beaches in Victoria. Each changeset contains 1 beach, there's a closed way for the beach and there's a name. The changeset will reference Bing or Esri World Imagery (Clarity) Beta as the

Re: [talk-au] Unconnected ways

2021-11-28 Thread Andy Townsend
On 28/11/2021 22:28, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: I tried putting a path along the beach, but routing still walks up to the nearest road, along that, then back down onto the beach at the other end? What actually is it that you're referring to when you say "routing" above? Different routers

Re: [talk-au] No attribution on map

2021-10-27 Thread Andy Townsend
On 28/10/2021 00:50, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: Spotted this site a couple of days ago: https://easypark.com.au/parking/en_au/, that certainly appears to be using OSM with no attribution. Sent them an email, but no response as yet. On the site that they say they also operate in NZ & 15

Re: [talk-au] Cycling on Victorian paths

2021-10-03 Thread Andy Townsend
On 03/10/2021 22:52, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: In that case, the definitions in iD probably need to be updated / changed, as when you're mapping any form of highway=*, the "Allowed Access" options & explanations include designated: "Access allowed according to signs or specific local laws".

Re: [talk-au] Cycling on Victorian paths

2021-10-03 Thread Andy Townsend
On 03/10/2021 04:00, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: I would think it should be bicycle=designated, which means that signage & local laws would then apply? (on the very narrow question of what "bicycle=designated" means in OSM) "=designated" is a somewhat confusingly named tag - it sounds like

Re: [talk-au] Suspicious amount of removed bicycle tags

2021-09-18 Thread Andy Townsend
On 18/09/2021 14:05, Adam Horan wrote: I think I've tried to contact this user before. Yes you did: http://resultmaps.neis-one.org/osm-discussion-comments?uid=11210886 For info, to see who you've commented on the changesets of, go to "My Edits", click on a changeset, click on "changeset

Re: [talk-au] Friend requests from 'Porn Bots'

2021-09-12 Thread Andy Townsend
On 12/09/2021 12:44, Matthew Davalle wrote: Having some weird friend requests coming through after submitting changesets to OSM, one I account was deleted however the second account still exists That's normal - it just means that someone has reported it and it has already been deleted.

Re: [talk-au] [EXTERNAL] Re: Low quality road classification contributions in SA via Microsoft Open Maps Team - contact point?

2021-08-29 Thread Andy Townsend
At the risk of repeating what might have been said earlier, I'd suggest commenting on one or more of the problem changesets, explaining why "residential" (or whatever) isn't a good fit. If the users concerned don't reply then we (the DWG) can try and draw their attention to the comments

Re: [talk-au] Strange friend request?

2021-08-29 Thread Andy Townsend
I've had a few of these as well (different names to the ones mentioned). In the one example that I got to before the user was deleted, the profile had a link that claimed to be to a porn site. If anyone sees any of these, the best thing to do is to click the "report user" button in the user

Re: [talk-au] Australian maps for Garmin devices

2021-04-30 Thread Andy Townsend
On 01/05/2021 00:31, Ian Steer wrote: Ian, where did you go to learn what to do with this data ? (eg a nice little website somewhere ??) Ian (not Ian, obviously but) I wrote https://www.openstreetmap.org/user/SomeoneElse/diary/38613 a while back to try and explain the basics to someone in

Re: [talk-au] Mapping "off track" hiking routes

2020-10-24 Thread Andy Townsend
On 24/10/2020 04:49, Brendan Barnes wrote: Back to my original post which I was seeking advice on, I was requesting clarity of mapping an official hiking route, which a small section of it happens to not follow a defined track/path and a compass bearing is required. The hiking route is

Re: [talk-au] Anzacathon and mapping possibilities

2020-04-26 Thread Andy Townsend
On 26/04/2020 14:52, Simon Poole wrote: ... I would suggest at least giving a heads up on a suitable country specific medium before proceeding, doing otherwise is just going to lead to strife. It's an import, so the guidelines linked from https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Import would

Re: [talk-au] RapID roads now available for Australia

2020-01-04 Thread Andy Townsend
On 05/01/2020 00:39, Dion Moult wrote: I came across some feedback on the quality of RapID in Australia: https://en.osm.town/@rory/103419495240060182 "detecting walls as roads" was pretty much the original problem with Facebook AI additions to OSM (in Egypt), and that had to be completely

Re: [talk-au] "Missing" Roads in Queensland

2019-12-10 Thread Andy Townsend
On 10/12/2019 23:33, cleary wrote: In recent times a proliferation of unnamed roads has appeared on the map with edits usually titled "Missing Roads in Queensland" or similar. I have communicated with a couple of the people, providing specific instances of observed errors, but the problem

Re: [talk-au] tagging of "demolished" roads

2019-11-26 Thread Andy Townsend
On 26/11/2019 12:01, Ian Steer wrote: Nanga Rd in WA’s south west has been affected by bauxite mining and has been re-routed.  I’m hesitant to simply delete the old alignment, and am wondering whether there is an appropriate tag like “demolished=yes” to use on it instead ? Deleting the

[talk-au] Fantasy mapping NE of Broken Hill

2019-11-01 Thread Andy Townsend
Hi, An enthusiastic Russian person has been busy with fantasy edits NE of Broken Hill (https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/76455814 etc.).  That account looks like it's related to a couple of others editing elsewhere, so it wouldn't surprise me if they pop up again as another name (which

Re: [talk-au] Discussion K: Evaluation of ACT paths audit 2012 and the OSM ACT dataset

2019-10-08 Thread Andy Townsend
On 08/10/2019 09:33, Mateusz Konieczny wrote: 7 Oct 2019, 23:02 by talk-au@openstreetmap.org: "Community paths" (official term) are the most common path type in the ACT and correspond in the OSM ATG to the tagging: - highway=path - foot=designated - bicycle=designated -

Re: [talk-au] Undiscussed edits to Australian Tagging Guidelines on tagging footpaths/cycleways (Was: Discussion D: mapping ACT for cyclists – complying with ACT law)

2019-10-04 Thread Andy Townsend
On 04/10/2019 12:46, Andrew Davidson wrote: I think at one point footway was assumed to be paved and path unpaved. I think that it's actually a bit more complicated than that.  The "standard" style on OpenStreetMap.org changed to displaying footway and path the same because it was clear

[talk-au] Mailing lists (was: Re: Discussion H: public transport – the end game)

2019-10-02 Thread Andy Townsend
On 02/10/2019 08:19, Edoardo Neerhut wrote: it would make sense to limit his communications so we're not bombarded daily with his emails. At the risk of stating the bleeding obvious, one thing that it is perhaps worth mentioning is that in most mail clients it's perfectly possible to "file

[talk-au] "designated" for foot and bicycle (was: Re: Discussion D: mapping ACT for cyclists – complying with ACT law)

2019-09-29 Thread Andy Townsend
On 29/09/2019 11:34, Andrew Davidson wrote: On 28/9/19 8:55 am, Andrew Harvey wrote: If the way is specifically for a particular mode, then use mode=designated. So a shared cycle pedestrian path is foot=designated+bicycle=designated. Actually in Australia if a path is designated for bicycles

Re: [talk-au] User Diaries Spam

2019-05-07 Thread Andy Townsend
On 07/05/2019 10:38, Simon Poole wrote: ... (and the admins need to be available). That's the key bit, I think, and that's likely to be when the admins are awake (i.e. some hours after the people on this list are). Beyond that (at the risk of stating the bleeding obvious), maybe try

Re: [talk-au] more SEO spam?

2019-01-30 Thread Andy Townsend
On 30/01/2019 10:25, Andrew Harvey wrote: I agree, unless they come to the table to discuss we should block as much as possible to limit their abuse of OSM. On Wed., 30 Jan. 2019, 7:24 pm nwastra wrote: ...

Re: [talk-au] Mapping houses and addresses in Sydney

2018-06-04 Thread Andy Townsend
On 03/06/18 20:12, Andrew Harvey wrote: On 3 June 2018 at 21:48, Dion Moult > wrote: I've started using OSM more and more and I find it frustrating that many house addresses are not available in OSM. I would like to help by tracing many houses using ESRI

Re: [talk-au] poor business listing edits

2018-06-02 Thread Andy Townsend
(just to give a bit of an update) Some single account "description" adders are back (example https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/5658025380/history ), but they're not obviously part of the same group as the previous lot, so it's "as you were" with manual searching and reverting of obvious

Re: [talk-au] poor business listing edits

2018-05-26 Thread Andy Townsend
Hi all, just to let people know the admins have found a fair bit of commonality between the accounts behind the edits mentioned so far in this thread and have taken action* against them.  With a bit of luck, the spam torrent should reduce for a bit, but please let us know if it starts

Re: [talk-au] poor business listing edits

2018-05-21 Thread Andy Townsend
On 21/05/2018 12:33, Andrew Harvey wrote: Thanks for doing the research on this! ... and thanks from me, too. On 21 May 2018 at 19:32, Andrew Davidson > wrote: After wasting many hours on this I've come to the conclusion that a

Re: [talk-au] Open Mapping team at Microsoft Australian edits

2018-05-05 Thread Andy Townsend
On 05/05/18 04:10, osm.talk...@thorsten.engler.id.au wrote: https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/58382600 This user, which on his user page says "I am proud to be in Microsoft Open Maps team." Has been making a lot of "Fixed geometry" changesets. ... I made a changeset comment to which I

Re: [talk-au] Rendering of BBQs

2017-12-25 Thread Andy Townsend
On 25/12/17 23:37, Arthur Geeson wrote: Is there a reason that BBQs are not being rendered? Just out of interest, what would the tag be?  There isn't much that's too obvious at https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/search?q=barbeque#values . A related issue is for firepit, in

Re: [talk-au] Pokemon / doodles in Noranda, Perth?

2017-11-23 Thread Andy Townsend
On 22/11/2017 20:34, m.james wrote: Kill it, kill it all Thanks!  Someone's already deleted it.  A couple more questions though: One is the names of bits of parkland such as https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/260221961/history .  That was added by the same mapper looks like it might be either

[talk-au] Pokemon / doodles in Noranda, Perth?

2017-11-22 Thread Andy Townsend
It looks dodgy, and presumably is just a Pokemon-style edit, but I figured that someone more local would be more likely to know for certain one way or the other: https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/4725585201/history#map=19/-31.87776/115.88667 I'm happy to tidy up if you'd like me to - just

Re: [talk-au] Ficticious edits near Victor Harbour

2017-11-04 Thread Andy Townsend
On 04/11/2017 22:30, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: But I'd also agree with reverting the changes & blocking them till we get an explanation. Normally first things first, I'd suggest commenting on a changset and explaining that the data that they're modifying is used to create the map that

Re: [talk-au] Issues with a user putting back incorrect tags

2017-09-09 Thread Andy Townsend
On 09/09/2017 04:40, Ross Scanlon wrote: Contact the Data Working Group Yes - there's a "I've seen a problem; what should I do?" section on http://wiki.osmfoundation.org/wiki/Data_Working_Group which might help. In this case the user has replied to changeset discussion comments in the

Re: [talk-au] Tagging - World Solar Challenge - Darwin to Adelaide

2017-05-19 Thread Andy Townsend
On 19/05/2017 11:19, Alex Sims wrote: I’m not quite sure how to resolve this. There is a relation http://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/7107501#map=5/-24.173/134.723 for the World Solar Challenge that runs from Darwin to Adelaide. It is a relation tagged as highway=raceway I don't think

[talk-au] Trail deletions just outside Wagga Wagga

2016-11-28 Thread Andy Townsend
Hi all, I commented on the discussion on https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/43618845 a while back, but didn't get a reply. It's like just a local mapper tidying up what does and doesn't really exist, but might be worth someone having a look at it if they're familiar with the area.

Re: [talk-au] Possible illegal imports in Western Australia (Andy Townsend)

2016-07-18 Thread Andy Townsend
On 18/07/2016 14:13, Warren wrote: I am reasonably local. Both areas have had recent road building. But I think they are now complete. I will divert when I am close and resort to a gps trace. Excellent stuff - thanks. Best Regards, Andy ___

Re: [talk-au] Possible illegal imports in Western Australia

2016-07-17 Thread Andy Townsend
. Two issues that I spotted on the way through I've commented on on: https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/40195315 https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/40195392 It'd be great if a Perth local could have a look at those. Best Regards, Andy Townsend (SomeoneElse), on behalf of the Data

Re: [talk-au] Familiar with these places in WA?

2016-07-07 Thread Andy Townsend
On 07/07/2016 11:28, Nev Wedding wrote: http://mmwatch.osmz.ru/?country=Australia=%E7%8E%8B%E7%90%B3%E9%9B%85 ... one more thing to add - not all of their edits are unhelpful: https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/34911431/history now has opening hours on it and didn't before. I am familiar

Re: [talk-au] Familiar with these places in WA?

2016-07-07 Thread Andy Townsend
On 07/07/2016 11:28, Nev Wedding wrote: Anyone familiar with these places in WA to fix some of this mappers tags. shop=dry_cleaning appears to be a booming business to me. Also adding odd characters at end of names and parts of names in lower case

[talk-au] Northern NSW again

2015-12-18 Thread Andy Townsend
Hi, Just for info, I've suggested that a relatively new mapper in Northern NSW might want to contact other mappers here in a comment on https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/35480438 (https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/332351666 is clearly unjoined, but there may be other issues). It's a

Re: [talk-au] Inappropriate tagged areas

2015-12-17 Thread Andy Townsend
On 16/12/2015 21:58, Warin wrote: On 17/12/2015 8:35 AM, Ben Kelley wrote: Use is not consistent. Situation normal. (If you harvest the natural trees, which one is it?) forestry. See the Forest page on the wiki, The http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Forest page describes 4

Re: [talk-au] Melbourne Airport (mapped as both node and way)

2015-10-01 Thread Andy Townsend
On 01/10/2015 05:11, Warin wrote: -1 Here am I taking nodes and making them areas - thus removing the node. I think mkgmap needs some improvement to get relevant areas into POI ... if that is a problem. I'd put money on a mkgmap 'expert' tell us that it is not a mkgmap problem as it can be