Re: [talk-au] answers to the difficult questions

2010-02-16 Thread John Smith
On 17 February 2010 17:19, Andrew Laughton laughton.and...@gmail.com wrote: The point being if someone wanted to search for the nearest effluent dump, it would be much easier to search for a single tag, not multiple tags. Which relies on the assumption of no pre-processing. You can potentially

Re: [talk-au] Suburb boundaries

2010-02-15 Thread John Smith
On 15 February 2010 18:27, John Henderson snow...@gmx.com wrote: And now Perth has gone under water: http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-31.901lon=115.835zoom=10layers=B000FTF That was cached, I forced the server to regenerate the tile and it no longer shows that much blue.

Re: [talk-au] repurcussions of IceTV decision

2010-02-14 Thread John Smith
This finally made it to slashdot.org today: http://yro.slashdot.org/story/10/02/14/0857256/Australian-Judge-Rules-Facts-Cannot-Be-Copyrighted?from=rss Complete with some discussions on what this may mean for various data sets: http://www.austlii.edu.au/au/cases/cth/FCA/2010/44.html

Re: [talk-au] repurcussions of IceTV decision

2010-02-14 Thread John Smith
On 14 February 2010 20:32, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com wrote: http://www.smartcompany.com.au/intellectual-property/20100212-sensis-loses-case-to-protect-copyright-of-yellow-pages-and-white-pages.html From the webpage: Dolphin says the key for database companies is to add some sort

Re: [talk-au] Canberra - last white spot on the map

2010-02-13 Thread John Smith
On 13 February 2010 18:30, Richard Colless fire...@ar.com.au wrote: I've checked and corrected 6 servos in my area (Campbelltown, NSW). Only 1811 to go. There is probably quite a few BP locations and coles express locations still needing to be fixed as well that there is no hi-res imagery

Re: [talk-au] Fixing ABS boundaries?

2010-02-13 Thread John Smith
On 14 February 2010 10:58, Sam Wilson s...@archives.org.au wrote: Ought one fix ABS administrative boundaries to bring them into line with roads (or nearmap, or surveys, or whatever else seems to actually be accurate)? The more I've had to deal with this the more I think it's a bad idea to

Re: [talk-au] Fixing ABS boundaries?

2010-02-13 Thread John Smith
On 14 February 2010 11:26, Sam Wilson s...@archives.org.au wrote: You're quite right, there's no reason to change the ABS data if it is, by definition, correct. I guess I'd just been thinking that it was probably supposed to match the roads. Which makes it difficult to fix roads if the

Re: [talk-au] Fixing ABS boundaries?

2010-02-13 Thread John Smith
On 14 February 2010 15:37, Richard Colless fire...@ar.com.au wrote: The ABS boundaries were defined many years ago, usually by some form of surveying data based on existing roads, watercourses etc.. But in a lot of cases, the roads which were originally used have been moved, in some cases by

Re: [talk-au] Suburb boundaries

2010-02-12 Thread John Smith
On 12 February 2010 17:57, John Henderson snow...@gmx.com wrote: I have no idea. But there are problems with the coastline in that area (and further south) at certain zoom levels. I've been looking for the source of the problems for a while, without luck and without changing anything. You

[talk-au] Fwd: [OSM-talk] Cyclone batters Cook Islands - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation)

2010-02-11 Thread John Smith
I'm forwarding this email to Mikel, who is/was involved with the Haitian mapping, perhaps he can give us pointers on priority etc -- Forwarded message -- From: Liz ed...@billiau.net Date: 11 February 2010 18:18 Subject: [OSM-talk] Cyclone batters Cook Islands - ABC News

Re: [talk-au] repurcussions of IceTV decision

2010-02-11 Thread John Smith
On 11 February 2010 21:19, James Livingston doc...@mac.com wrote: My non-lawyerly understanding of the IceTV case was that most of the argument was around whether the they used a substantial portion of the database (e.g. structure) not the facts themselves. I'll have to re-read the IceTV

Re: [talk-au] Suburb boundaries

2010-02-10 Thread John Smith
On 10 February 2010 18:02, Arie Paap wildmy...@gmail.com wrote: I'd like to know if the .osm files with suburb data are available somewhere. I have found the postcode files useful but they're missing some of the boundaries where a two suburbs have the same postcode and of course there aren't

Re: [talk-au] Suburb boundaries

2010-02-10 Thread John Smith
On 10 February 2010 19:35, Arie Paap wildmy...@gmail.com wrote: Anyone have suggestions how to recreate the relations which have been deleted? I can manually put back most of the information but the Are you sure the relation has been deleted? I've noticed a lot of suburb relations damaged by

Re: [talk-au] Canberra - last white spot on the map

2010-02-10 Thread John Smith
On 10 February 2010 20:28, Sam Couter s...@couter.id.au wrote: This happens with lower concentrations of ethanol, one reason why fuel companies love it and motorists should refuse it. In theory small amounts of water mixed like that shouldn't be a problem in most current engines,we're talking

[talk-au] For those looking for something to do....

2010-02-10 Thread John Smith
As I was fixing up railway lines around the Cronulla area of Sydney I noticed a lot of the ways need improving now that Nearmap imagery is available. It seems many of these ways were added prior to even Yahoo imagery being available and haven't been touched up since. Same goes for that matter

Re: [talk-au] Canberra - last white spot on the map

2010-02-10 Thread John Smith
On 8 February 2010 21:48, Richard Colless fire...@ar.com.au wrote: This link has a download for Caltex and Caltex Woolworths servos, in CSV format: http://apps.nowwhere.com.au/caltex/austlocator/search.aspx All 1817 points were added to the database, although there were 9 pairs of points that

Re: [talk-au] Duplicate node finder

2010-02-10 Thread John Smith
Looks like ACT, NSW, NT Qld are duplicate free now, most of the dupes left in Australia seem to have congregated in Melbourne. ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au

Re: [talk-au] repurcussions of IceTV decision

2010-02-10 Thread John Smith
On 11 February 2010 05:33, Liz ed...@billiau.net wrote: Haven't got far through the judgement so far but this sounds quite clear. 7. The Copyright Act does not protect facts, ideas or information contained in a work, to ensure a balance is struck between the interests of authors and those in

Re: [talk-au] Canberra - last white spot on the map

2010-02-10 Thread John Smith
On 11 February 2010 04:34, David Murn da...@incanberra.com.au wrote: I must have missed it, but was permission granted by the content owners, or is someone hoping to use OSM in a legal testcase? There is now 2 precedents on the issue, lists of facts now won't be considered copyright in

Re: [talk-au] Suburb boundaries

2010-02-10 Thread John Smith
On 11 February 2010 10:13, Arie Paap wildmy...@gmail.com wrote: I haven't used Merkaartor but I presume it presents relations in a way similar to JOSM which is what I've been using. The specific example I'm looking at is Hamersley, see

Re: [talk-au] Duplicate node removal

2010-02-10 Thread John Smith
On 11 February 2010 11:44, Craig Feuerherdt craigfeuerhe...@gmail.com wrote: I am not going to start on the USA duplicate removal, there is some definite time effort required there :) If you look at the countries with the most duplicates these tend to have had imports.

Re: [talk-au] Duplicate node removal

2010-02-10 Thread John Smith
On 11 February 2010 12:29, Craig Feuerherdt craigfeuerhe...@gmail.com wrote: This is exactly right John, one of the pitfalls of mass importation of data (however given the state of the US TIGER data it is hardly surprising). Alternatively you can spin that as a positive because now you have the

Re: [talk-au] repurcussions of IceTV decision

2010-02-10 Thread John Smith
On 11 February 2010 14:19, David Murn da...@incanberra.com.au wrote: Doesnt all content have an identifiable author, or at least copyright holder? Unless its computer generated that is. The copyright holder isn't always the author, although in the case of Channel 9/Telstra they should have

[talk-au] Fwd: [OSM-talk] New OSM GeoData License Status

2010-02-09 Thread John Smith
-- Forwarded message -- From: Mike Collinson m...@ayeltd.biz Date: 10 February 2010 03:06 Subject: [OSM-talk] New OSM GeoData License Status To: annou...@openstreetmap.org, t...@openstreetmap.org Here is an update from the License Working Group. We feel we've reached a

Re: [talk-au] Canberra - last white spot on the map

2010-02-08 Thread John Smith
On 8 February 2010 20:32, David Murn da...@incanberra.com.au wrote: The topic was someone using OSM maps on his GPS during a visit to Canberra, and having difficulty finding a service station that would take his wallet full of fuel discount vouchers. Well Coles Express locations exist now in

Re: [talk-au] Canberra - last white spot on the map

2010-02-08 Thread John Smith
On 8 February 2010 21:48, Richard Colless fire...@ar.com.au wrote: This link has a download for Caltex and Caltex Woolworths servos, in CSV format: http://apps.nowwhere.com.au/caltex/austlocator/search.aspx Ta, didn't see that page, I emailed Woolworths Petrol earlier for the information

Re: [talk-au] Canberra - last white spot on the map

2010-02-08 Thread John Smith
W here we go again, anyone else want to take a stab at what to tag things :) Eftpos Avail,Workshop Avail,Car Wash Avail,Disabled Toilets Avail,ATM Avail,BBQ Gas Avail,Truckstop Facility Avail,Starcash Avail, ___ Talk-au mailing list

Re: [talk-au] Canberra - last white spot on the map

2010-02-08 Thread John Smith
On 9 February 2010 05:09, John Henderson snow...@gmx.com wrote: I'm definitely seeing an OSM map, with detail I've added recently. The powered by Google image is probably confusing people, but it looks like mapnik produced tiles to me. But service station sites are a different matter. Those I

[talk-au] Caltex locations

2010-02-08 Thread John Smith
The list of caltex locations, among what you'd expect also includes some Ampol, BP and Mobil locations, with a couple of Gas 'n Go, IFS and Bogas thrown in. http://map-data.bigtincan.com/data/caltex.osm.bz2 Judging by a couple of locations I checked against Nearmap imagery they seem to be

[talk-au] Duplicate node finder

2010-02-08 Thread John Smith
SteveC just did a webcast on a new map rendering Matt has come up with to show duplicate nodes: http://www.opengeodata.org/2010/02/08/screencast-on-how-to-remove-duplicate-node-in-openstreetmap/ What he didn't bother to put in the post was the web address:

Re: [talk-au] Canberra - last white spot on the map

2010-02-08 Thread John Smith
On 9 February 2010 08:40, John Henderson snow...@gmx.com wrote: I e-mailed them yesterday, asking if/how we could add more fuel types, like e10. Just click on the location a couple of times and there is a list box where you can add fuel types. ___

Re: [talk-au] Canberra - last white spot on the map

2010-02-08 Thread John Smith
On 9 February 2010 10:17, John Henderson snow...@gmx.com wrote: Maybe I'm missing something, but there's ethanol and e85. No e10, and no way I can see to add it. I was guessing ethanol = e10 I've already added octane_91 to the servos in my area. I'm not sure that adding information there

Re: [talk-au] OSM Fuel

2010-02-08 Thread John Smith
On 9 February 2010 10:22, Craig Feuerherdt craigfeuerhe...@gmail.com wrote: The underlying map in OSM Fuel is definitely Google. Compare http://www.osmfuel.org/?lat=-36.73lon=144.29 with the same area in The static image seems to be gMaps, but the dynamic map seems to be OSM...

Re: [talk-au] Duplicate node finder

2010-02-08 Thread John Smith
On 9 February 2010 10:21, Liz ed...@billiau.net wrote: just done a big pile in western nsw now running into someone else doing the same so i've quit i'm not sure how fast the dupes site is going to be updated If it's feeding from the main OSM database server it will probably be real time.

Re: [talk-au] Duplicate node finder

2010-02-08 Thread John Smith
A duplicated node I fixed earlier is no longer showing... ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au

Re: [talk-au] Canberra - last white spot on the map

2010-02-08 Thread John Smith
On 9 February 2010 10:56, John Henderson snow...@gmx.com wrote: I take ethanol as meaning e100 (like what's available in Brazil). It doesn't explicitly state one way or the other on the wiki: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Fuel Also it's against the laws of physics to get e100, you need

[talk-au] Fwd: Canberra - last white spot on the map

2010-02-08 Thread John Smith
-- Forwarded message -- From: Adolf Hohl riceornoo...@googlemail.com Date: 9 February 2010 11:42 Subject: Re: [talk-au] Canberra - last white spot on the map To: John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com Hi John, you are right. I was missing good docu by that time. data is imported

Re: [talk-au] Servos

2010-02-08 Thread John Smith
On 9 February 2010 12:03, Alex (Maxious) Sadleir maxi...@gmail.com wrote: What if theyve put an easter-egg into that 'database of fact'? Suddenly they can prove you took their entire dataset. Or they can just refer to this publically accessable email discussion. That only proves you may have

Re: [talk-au] Canberra - last white spot on the map

2010-02-08 Thread John Smith
On 9 February 2010 13:25, John Henderson snow...@gmx.com wrote: As a term for automotive fuel, e100 means that there's no petroleum/gasoline whatsoever in the mix: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Common_ethanol_fuel_mixtures Similarly, I take biodiesel to mean b100, as is sold at at least one

Re: [talk-au] Canberra - last white spot on the map

2010-02-07 Thread John Smith
On 8 February 2010 13:16, David Murn da...@incanberra.com.au wrote: Thats fine if youre looking for a place that accepts woolworths cards, but what about if you have a caltex or shell card and want to search for someone who'll take that. If you want a POI search, you simply extract the various

Re: [talk-au] Canberra - last white spot on the map

2010-02-07 Thread John Smith
On 8 February 2010 14:09, David Murn da...@incanberra.com.au wrote: Is this the start of a new cliche? 'Tagging for the navigator' Seems that was what was being suggested, or more to the point, don't tag incorrectly for the navigator, eg using the name field incorrectly to indicate discounts

Re: [talk-au] Canberra - last white spot on the map

2010-02-06 Thread John Smith
On 6 February 2010 17:59, Elizabeth Dodd ed...@billiau.net wrote: So that's another scheme again - the one our way works just like Woolies and Coles but is tied in with United. I don't think you can express this information easily to both humans and computers with just one tag, will need a

Re: [talk-au] Canberra - last white spot on the map

2010-02-06 Thread John Smith
I've just made a bulk upload of Coles Express locations from their website: http://www.colesexpress.com.au/store-locator/gps-poi.aspx http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/3803645 Most likely there will be duplicates just as there were when the BP locations were imported, unfortunately

Re: [talk-au] Canberra - last white spot on the map

2010-02-06 Thread John Smith
On 6 February 2010 20:56, Liz ed...@billiau.net wrote: In the set I just checked none were more than 500m from where I last saw the servo so it could be a better set than BP overall Most of the ones I've seen are about the same, so their geocoding service is much better, at a guess due to

Re: [talk-au] Canberra - last white spot on the map

2010-02-06 Thread John Smith
I've been sent a couple of PDFs for locations of independent servos, but no lat/lon information, does anyone know of a suitable geocoding service that can be used? ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org

Re: [talk-au] Canberra - last white spot on the map

2010-02-06 Thread John Smith
On 7 February 2010 08:21, Steve Bennett stevag...@gmail.com wrote: Point is, you don't care which of several schemes a servo belongs to. What you care about is will they accept my docket? Suggestion: fuel:woolworths_discount=yes fuel:coles_discount=yes Except none of them allow you to use

Re: [talk-au] Canberra - last white spot on the map

2010-02-06 Thread John Smith
On 7 February 2010 15:33, David Murn da...@incanberra.com.au wrote: They have 4c coles voucher plus 4c instore, however last time I travelled past they didnt pass on the ethanol rebate. You can spot those who pass on the ethanol rebate, as the ethanol fuel is cheaper than regular unleaded.

Re: [talk-au] Canberra - last white spot on the map

2010-02-05 Thread John Smith
On 5 February 2010 23:42, David Murn da...@incanberra.com.au wrote: Maybe we should have some sort of fuel:discount tag? fuel:shopper_docket=yes ? discount is too ambiguous, discount for what? ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org

Re: [talk-au] Canberra - last white spot on the map

2010-02-05 Thread John Smith
On 6 February 2010 09:31, John Henderson snow...@gmx.com wrote: Most Woolies customers no longer receive a docket entitling them to fuel discount. It's all done by scanning the Everyday Rewards plastic card. Those that don't want to give their privacy away still get a bar code on a docket.

Re: [talk-au] Canberra - last white spot on the map

2010-02-05 Thread John Smith
On 6 February 2010 09:47, David Murn da...@incanberra.com.au wrote: Alternatively, what about operator=caltex;woolworths ? Can you have multiple values for operator tag? Yes, but it's a pain to try and parse them afterwards. ___ Talk-au mailing list

[talk-au] Turning photos of buildings into a map object...

2010-02-05 Thread John Smith
I just noticed this diary post: http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/Ainsworth/diary/9483 He took photos of a church, and then fed it into some 3D software and then used the output to plot a church in OSM. ___ Talk-au mailing list

[talk-au] Autonomous car that uses GPS...

2010-02-05 Thread John Smith
Shelley knows exactly where she is on the road by using a differential GPS. Unlike a standard GPS system, hers corrects for interference in the atmosphere, showing the car's position on the Earth with an accuracy of about 2 centimeters. Shelley measures her speed and acceleration with wheel-speed

Re: [talk-au] Canberra - last white spot on the map

2010-02-05 Thread John Smith
On 6 February 2010 15:29, Liz ed...@billiau.net wrote: mine's an IGA discount from Ritchies and I have seen others around the area where the local supermarket has an agreement with the fuel outlet so add in other Most of the IGA discounts I've seen require you to produce a fuel receipt and

[talk-au] Fwd: [Aust-NZ] Surveying for Mapping

2010-02-04 Thread John Smith
-- Forwarded message -- From: Ross Charles Johnson ros...@hotmail.com Date: 5 February 2010 09:18 Subject: [Aust-NZ] Surveying for Mapping To: aust...@lists.osgeo.org From: susie.salisb...@ga.gov.au [mailto:susie.salisb...@ga.gov.au] Sent:

Re: [talk-au] How to undo saved edits?

2010-02-03 Thread John Smith
On 3 February 2010 19:29, Liz ed...@billiau.net wrote: Often newbies spend a lot of time putting in something and need a quick pick- me-up help so they don't get totally discouraged when all their hard work has been wasted. Maybe there should be a tutorial mode added to potlatch, with some

Re: [talk-au] google maps criticised for unreliable toll road routing

2010-02-03 Thread John Smith
On 3 February 2010 19:46, Roy Wallace waldo000...@gmail.com wrote: Just a thought - might be a nice reminder to check how we are doing on this front in OSM? I've seen some toll booths marked, not sure how any of the routing engines deals with it however. In Brisbane gMaps keeps sending me via

Re: [talk-au] Canberra - last white spot on the map

2010-02-03 Thread John Smith
On 3 February 2010 21:24, Richard Colless fire...@ar.com.au wrote: could be added to the POI's. Also had a bit of trouble locating a convenient petrol station - a lot were Unnamed. Not helpful when you have a wallet full of Coles or Woolworths discount vouchers. It might be useful to clarify

Re: [talk-au] Canberra - last white spot on the map

2010-02-03 Thread John Smith
On 4 February 2010 07:58, Roy Wallace waldo000...@gmail.com wrote: Is the name actually Woolworths Renmark, though? If not, it shouldn't be in the name tag...(right?) Should be what ever the registered business name or company name is. ___ Talk-au

Re: [talk-au] Canberra - last white spot on the map

2010-02-03 Thread John Smith
On 4 February 2010 13:01, ed...@billiau.net wrote: Can we document on the wiki which is Operator and which is Name (for Australia) because I never found it to make sense I suspect Operator is the franchise name - am I right? I've been setting the Operator to the fuel they supply, eg

Re: [talk-au] google maps criticised for unreliable toll road routing

2010-02-03 Thread John Smith
On 4 February 2010 13:44, Steve Bennett stevag...@gmail.com wrote: I've only checked Citylink here, but I notice that neither Mapnik nor Osmarender renders tollroads any differently. How strange. Why is it strange that no one put in a request to have them render differently?

Re: [talk-au] Canberra - last white spot on the map

2010-02-03 Thread John Smith
On 4 February 2010 16:01, Roy Wallace waldo000...@gmail.com wrote: +1. e.g. for Woolworths Caltex petrol, is it Woolworths or Caltex? For those with a discount voucher they're probably more interested in looking for Woolworths stations than Caltex stations... I usually set name=Woolworths

Re: [talk-au] How to undo saved edits?

2010-02-02 Thread John Smith
On 3 February 2010 16:45, John Henderson snow...@gmx.com wrote: I just tread very carefully in JOSM, tentatively deleting ways to see if there's another underneath, and restoring needed things again with ctrl-Z. You don't need to delete something to see if there is a way underneath, just select

Re: [talk-au] Most of Busselton deleted

2010-02-01 Thread John Smith
I've forwarded a copy of your email to the main talk list, some people have scripts to be able to easily revert changes but I don't have anything set up at present. On 2 February 2010 15:45, Arie Paap wildmy...@gmail.com wrote: Can someone suggest how to deal with this kind of vandalism: Most

Re: [talk-au] Tram stops and routes for Melbourne

2010-01-30 Thread John Smith
On 30 January 2010 19:36, Andy Botting a...@andybotting.com wrote: Before uploading them to OSM, I'd probably test them out on Google Maps first as a sanity check. If you make an OSM file, you can open this in JOSM and check it against OSM data, and even Nearmap overlays etc...

Re: [talk-au] OSM in Feb Silicon Chip

2010-01-29 Thread John Smith
On 29 January 2010 18:11, Andrew Gregory and...@scss.com.au wrote: They aren't up to Feb just yet online, you'd need to subscribe anyway. I bought the dead tree version yesterday. Pity, it's good to post links for those outside Australia in diary entries etc.

Re: [talk-au] Tram stops and routes for Melbourne

2010-01-29 Thread John Smith
On 30 January 2010 11:56, David Murn da...@incanberra.com.au wrote: Im worried about a technique like that. You plan to remove all existing stops (whether survey'd or nearmapped or whatever) to be replaced by a mass data set. Just ask around how well that worked for the BP import and how

Re: [talk-au] Global warming?

2010-01-28 Thread John Smith
On 28 January 2010 18:49, Liz ed...@billiau.net wrote: Then the continent must be tipping Maybe the moon got hit by a chunk of brown dwarf :) ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au

[talk-au] Fwd: [Aust-NZ] Brisbane OSGeo meeting

2010-01-28 Thread John Smith
-- Forwarded message -- From: Shaun Kolomeitz shaun.kolome...@derm.qld.gov.au Date: 28 January 2010 14:23 Subject: [Aust-NZ] Brisbane OSGeo meeting To: aust...@lists.osgeo.org Hello all, We will be holding our first Brisbane Open Source Geospatial Users Meeting on Tuesday week,

[talk-au] Nokia to add radar to phones?

2010-01-28 Thread John Smith
Nokia have a prototype which they added radar, like the police used to use till they upgraded to lidar, I wonder how useful something like this would be in combination with other sensors and GPS etc to produce more accurate location information...

Re: [talk-au] re Coastline rendering in Garmins Mapsource

2010-01-28 Thread John Smith
This came up on the talk list: http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk/2010-January/047660.html ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au

Re: [talk-au] Tram stops and routes for Melbourne

2010-01-28 Thread John Smith
On 29 January 2010 08:29, Andy Botting a...@andybotting.com wrote: When writing this email, I had the import of the Vic Police stations in mind. I think this might be similar to what was done in that case. The vic police stations were released under a cc-by license so we didn't need to contact

Re: [talk-au] Tram stops and routes for Melbourne

2010-01-28 Thread John Smith
On 29 January 2010 08:36, Andy Botting a...@andybotting.com wrote: I think it's a fantastic initiative by the government to release it data. Kinda gives me the impression that they're starting to 'get it', and this information should be free. I don't know if they are finally getting it, or

Re: [talk-au] re Coastline rendering in Garmins Mapsource

2010-01-28 Thread John Smith
On 29 January 2010 14:18, John Henderson snow...@gmx.com wrote: as the first two lines of the mkgmap polygons style file. There's no improvement in the rendering of the ocean. Read the thread I posted before, you have to tweak other things I think.

Re: [talk-au] OSM in Feb Silicon Chip

2010-01-28 Thread John Smith
On 29 January 2010 17:41, Andrew Gregory and...@scss.com.au wrote: OSM is briefly mentioned as a map source in the GPS Car Computer article in the Feb 2010 issue of Silicon Chip. There's even a screen shot! (Yick - lots of mini-roundabouts - should fix them sometime) Do you have a URL? Thank

Re: [talk-au] Global warming?

2010-01-27 Thread John Smith
Was perth last week Probably the same problem effecting the garmin maps? On 1/27/10, Liz ed...@billiau.net wrote: reported from the west coast on irc Fremantle is now underwater so the coast is badly broken ___ Talk-au mailing list

Re: [talk-au] Global warming?

2010-01-27 Thread John Smith
The opposite is happening near Brisbane, seems land has been reclaimed from the sea: http://osm.org/go/ueGzkZIk- ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au

Re: [talk-au] re Coastline rendering in Garmins Mapsource

2010-01-26 Thread John Smith
How is the garmin util converting from osm2garmin format? There is shape files which are error checkef before mapnik renders tiles... On 1/27/10, John Henderson snow...@gmx.com wrote: John Kitchener wrote: Here's how it renders on an Oregon 300

Re: [talk-au] For the mapper with too much money who wants it all...

2010-01-22 Thread John Smith
2010/1/22 David Murn da...@incanberra.com.au: For US$400 you get a full HD resolution camera, which can geotag your photos with both GPS coordinates and compass direction. Ummm $400 isn't that much money, when I was into photography you didn't get much for $400, a small/cheap lens maybe...

Re: [talk-au] maps.bigtincan.com is down atm

2010-01-22 Thread John Smith
Most if not all services should now be restored. Also in the mean time Franc was kind enough to upload suburb boundaries, so these can be reviewed and/or fixed by using the osm files: http://map-data.bigtincan.com/data/suburbs/ ___ Talk-au mailing

Re: [talk-au] Question about lanes

2010-01-22 Thread John Smith
2010/1/23 Sam Couter s...@couter.id.au: There's no indication of how to map asymmetrical roads, Liz's suggestion of using 1/2 or 3/2 amuses me. The most common example I can think of is over taking sections on say the Pacific or New England or Bruce or highways where it isn't dual carriage

Re: [talk-au] Question about lanes

2010-01-22 Thread John Smith
2010/1/23 Kevin Pye kevin@gmail.com: 2010/1/23 Sam Couter s...@couter.id.au: The second photo shows cars parked on both sides of the street facing away from the camera, which suggests it's a one-way street. It's a poor example. You can't necessarily assume that a street is one way based

Re: [talk-au] Question about lanes

2010-01-21 Thread John Smith
2010/1/22 John Henderson snow...@gmx.com: Mark Pulley wrote: I'm currently doing some edits in Armidale (NSW) following my trip there for Christmas. Many of the streets and surrounding roads are labelled lanes=1. Some of these are clearly wrong, as they have a painted line in the middle

Re: [talk-au] Blue?

2010-01-21 Thread John Smith
2010/1/22 Arie Paap wildmy...@gmail.com: The correct coastline data seems to be in use again. Tiles that still have blue background are updated when resubmitted for rendering. Would be nice to be able to determine what date the rendered coastline comes from. Download the coastline shape file

[talk-au] Nearmap Sydney area imagery

2010-01-20 Thread John Smith
It looks like Nearmap have started processing imagery from beyond just the Sydney area down towards Wollongong... http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/NearMap_PhotoMaps#Current_coverage ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org

Re: [talk-au] Nearmap Sydney area imagery

2010-01-20 Thread John Smith
2010/1/20 John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com: It looks like Nearmap have started processing imagery from beyond just the Sydney area down towards Wollongong... http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/NearMap_PhotoMaps#Current_coverage More imagery seems to be being processed round Geelong area

Re: [talk-au] Boat ramp

2010-01-20 Thread John Smith
2010/1/21 Stephen Hope slh...@gmail.com: A service road can lead to a boat ramp.  But the boat ramp itself is not a point, it's a line. It's usually pretty clear where the ramp starts - where it ends is usually harder to find unless you go wading. Assuming you don't go head over tail on the

Re: [talk-au] Alcohol Free / Prohibited Zones

2010-01-15 Thread John Smith
2010/1/15 cam_...@fastmail.fm: Alcohol prohibited: http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/relation/384683 it doesn't highlight St Leonard's Park.  - Perhaps this is a bug I should file? (and where would I file it to?) I don't think child relations do anything/much... this isn't so much a bug as

Re: [talk-au] access=destination

2010-01-15 Thread John Smith
2010/1/15 Roy Wallace waldo000...@gmail.com: So this would seem to infer that motorbike riders don't have to obey Local Traffic Only signs. Strange (and/or incorrect). Motorbike riders are exempt from a number of things cars aren't, they're allowed to be in transit lanes without any other

Re: [talk-au] OSM in Haiti

2010-01-15 Thread John Smith
2010/1/16 Alex (Maxious) Sadleir maxi...@gmail.com: Technological Disasters. It did get activated for the Australian bushfires but the USGS were the only ones to act on it and there's no published imagery:

Re: [talk-au] OSM in Haiti

2010-01-15 Thread John Smith
2010/1/16 David Murn da...@incanberra.com.au: Last time I checked, a bushfire doesnt change the geographical location of *everything*, like a 7.0 earthquake does.  Im sure there were OSM updates in Australia after the fires of damaged infrastructure, but we Damaged infrasturcture is only one

Re: [talk-au] Haitian Earthquake Emphasizes Danger of a Split Geo Community

2010-01-15 Thread John Smith
2010/1/16 morb@beagle.com.au: Hi everyone, As I work to bring CommonMap to fruition I'm heartened that I'm not the only one that wants to see it happen. If you're handy to Brisbane tonight then come join the CommonMap association as part of the Samford Mapping Party

Re: [talk-au] access=destination

2010-01-15 Thread John Smith
2010/1/16 Roy Wallace waldo000...@gmail.com: The main issue that access=destination (i.e. applying to all traffic modes) is wrong - it isn't on the ground, and (quite probably...) isn't even in the legal books. I haven't seen any signs that distinguish between traffic, they just state Local

Re: [talk-au] access=destination

2010-01-15 Thread John Smith
2010/1/16 Liz ed...@billiau.net: On Sat, 16 Jan 2010, John Smith wrote: We're tagging what the sign states, what it means will vary between legal jurisdictions... __ but first we have to find out what it really means, and what are the restrictions I'm

Re: [talk-au] Haitian Earthquake Emphasizes Danger of a Split Geo Community

2010-01-15 Thread John Smith
2010/1/16 Roy Wallace waldo000...@gmail.com: On Sat, Jan 16, 2010 at 12:16 PM, James Livingston doc...@mac.com wrote: It's all a matter of tradeoffs and what is most important to you - being able to use it for whatever you want, or getting the most data in OSM. Well said. Funny thing is,

[talk-au] Fwd: [OSM-talk] Florist apologises: A florist says changing competitors' details on Google Maps 'became an addiction'.

2010-01-15 Thread John Smith
I wonder if the police would bother pursuing the matter if people were caught for the same offence on OSM... -- Forwarded message -- From: Robin Paulson robin.paul...@gmail.com Date: 2010/1/16 Subject: [OSM-talk] Florist apologises: A florist says changing competitors' details on

Re: [talk-au] Haitian Earthquake Emphasizes Danger of a Split Geo Community

2010-01-15 Thread John Smith
2010/1/16 Roy Wallace waldo000...@gmail.com: Interesting. But the catch is, as you say, only what is edited from existing PD data. And if you have different mappers using different If that's too much of a limitation then more drastic action would be needed, nothing will please everyone all the

Re: [talk-au] date time formats

2010-01-14 Thread John Smith
2010/1/14 Jim Croft jim.cr...@gmail.com: forgotten the context, but there was some chat a few weeks back on standard date formats, date ranges. etc. this may be of interest: http://www.loc.gov/standards/datetime/examples.html I think you are referring to the thread on opening hours, but this

Re: [talk-au] OSM in Haiti

2010-01-14 Thread John Smith
2010/1/14 Jim Croft jim.cr...@gmail.com: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Haiti#2010_Earthquake_Response http://blog.ushahidi.com/index.php/2010/01/13/haiti-earthquake/ I'm not trying to detract from how badly off people are in Haiti... but nothing like this occurred when

Re: [talk-au] Alcohol Free / Prohibited Zones

2010-01-14 Thread John Smith
2010/1/14 cam_...@fastmail.fm: As always, suggestions are welcome :) I never did get round to doing the one I was going to do before I had to leave, so well done... The only comment is on the prohibited relation, is it really needed to do the inner sections of St Leonards Park, when you have

Re: [talk-au] Alcohol Free / Prohibited Zones

2010-01-14 Thread John Smith
2010/1/15 John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com: 2010/1/14  cam_...@fastmail.fm: As always, suggestions are welcome :) I never did get round to doing the one I was going to do before I had to leave, so well done... The only comment is on the prohibited relation, is it really needed to do

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