Re: [OSM-talk] No attribution on osm.org?

2012-03-09 Thread Andrew Ayre
On 3/9/2012 10:42 AM, Tom Hughes wrote: We have always taken the position that the attribution is implicit when you're visiting the web site - it's blatantly obvious that you're looking at the OpenStreetMap data. I think the OSM site should set a clear example for correct usage, rather than

Re: [OSM-talk] No attribution on osm.org?

2012-03-09 Thread Andrew Ayre
On 3/9/2012 1:59 PM, Floris Looijesteijn wrote: I fiddled around with the code and it's no problem to just add it, but I'm hesitant to submit a patch if the majority doesn't agree. I can't imagine why the majority wouldn't agree on improving attribution. Tom Hughes asked for a patch so just

Re: [OSM-talk] Mixing OSM and FOSM data

2012-01-16 Thread Andrew Ayre
On 1/16/2012 12:11 PM, kenneth gonsalves wrote: On Mon, 2012-01-16 at 13:03 +0100, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: In my perception legal-talk is not meant to be a ghetto but it is an attempt to sort things thematically to keep talk readable (i.e. reduce traffic) also for those that don't want to

Re: [Talk-us] USPS Address Database

2011-03-02 Thread Andrew Ayre
Anthony wrote: (*) Incidentally, if you'd like to buy a copy of the database and give it to me, I'd be willing to be the guinea pig who redistributes it, or Buying the database and giving it to you is probably against the terms of the license, possibly leaving that person open to being a

Re: [OSM-talk] Fwd: Re: collateral damage

2011-02-11 Thread Andrew Ayre
Toby Murray wrote: Does anyone think more discussion is going to yield anything useful? It is obvious that Anthony is unwilling to accept a nearly universally held community consensus. I initially thought that the wholesale nuking of all his contributions was a little drastic. But his continued

Re: [OSM-talk] It's fun while it lasts

2011-02-11 Thread Andrew Ayre
What is the point of spreading unfounded FUD? OSM doesn't need Microsoft to exist anyway. Andy pec...@gmail.com wrote: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-12427680 I think we can call it a day. I really doubt Microsoft will be that interested in OSM anymore when they got Nokia on their hook.

Re: [Talk-us] TIGER edited map updated with Toby's suggestion

2011-01-24 Thread Andrew Ayre
Sorry, the village of Summerhaven, which I totally reworked in Sep 2009 is still shown in red: http://open.mapquestapi.com/tigerviewer/index.html?zoom=12lat=32.438lon=-110.75635layers=B Andy Antony Pegg wrote: All, sorry I didnt write this sooner Last week we updated the TIGER edited map

Re: [Talk-us] TIGER 2010 Imports

2010-12-16 Thread Andrew Ayre
Alan Mintz wrote: At 2010-12-15 10:04, Ian Dees wrote: Look at the TIGER edited map. There is *lots* of untouched TIGER data in OSM: http://open.mapquestapi.com/tigerviewer/index.html?zoom=9lat=40.07546lon=-76.32layers=B

Re: [Talk-us] TIGER 2010 Imports

2010-12-16 Thread Andrew Ayre
Andrew Ayre wrote: Alan Mintz wrote: At 2010-12-15 10:04, Ian Dees wrote: Look at the TIGER edited map. There is *lots* of untouched TIGER data in OSM: http://open.mapquestapi.com/tigerviewer/index.html?zoom=9lat=40.07546lon=-76.32layers=B http://open.mapquestapi.com/tigerviewer

Re: [OSM-talk] Let's prepare to Fork OSM to a CCBYSA 2.0 continuation

2010-08-22 Thread Andrew Ayre
Eugene Alvin Villar wrote: On Sun, Aug 22, 2010 at 6:08 PM, Felix Hartmann extremecar...@googlemail.com mailto:extremecar...@googlemail.com wrote: This means we have to find a new domain, new servers, and get the usernames/passwords copied so people can login to the CCBYSA 2.0 fork

Re: [OSM-talk] iPad app

2010-08-20 Thread Andrew Ayre
Sadly flash won't work on the iPad. So it would likely to have to be an iPad specific app in Objective-C (shudder). And then a Flash version for all the other platforms. Andy Graham Jones wrote: Maybe a neater alternative would be to make Potlatch respond to touch screen events and access the

Re: [OSM-talk] Legal discussion on talk@

2010-08-13 Thread Andrew Ayre
Alan Mintz wrote: At 2010-08-13 14:09, Frederik Ramm wrote: Liz wrote: If a poster wishes to spread a message more widely to the community, they should be quite free to do so. That's the thinking that killed any worthwhile Usenet groups once the internet became available to everyone, sadly

Re: [OSM-talk] You have killed accessibility!

2010-07-01 Thread Andrew Ayre
Iván Sánchez Ortega wrote: On Thursday 01 July 2010 20:20:55 Lulu-Ann wrote: You are inhibiting our blind contributors to stay with us!!! We're also inhibiting the spammers, who are a nuisance just right now. User block didn't work, and IP block didn't work, so the wiki admins were forced

Re: [OSM-talk] Post code areas

2010-04-01 Thread Andrew Ayre
John Smith wrote: On 2 April 2010 03:59, Ian Dees ian.d...@gmail.com wrote: Do we really want to import these kinds of administrative boundaries? If a regular old mapper can't go out with a GPS and verify that a border actually exists, does this sort of data belong in OSM? How many admin

Re: [OSM-talk] Mathematic genius needed

2010-03-21 Thread Andrew Ayre
How about converting to UTM then using a zoom level specified as meters per pixel? Here is what I did when printing from Mapnik: http://www.britishideas.com/2009/09/22/map-scales-and-printing-with-mapnik/ Andy Bernhard zwischenbrugger wrote: Hi all Maybe that one is easy for someone out

Re: [Talk-us] Incorporation

2009-12-04 Thread Andrew Ayre
I believe that California will charge $800 per year income tax for for-profit corporations even if you make a loss or no profit... A large number of Corporations in the US are incorporated in Delaware because my understanding is that they are very friendly towards businesses and easy to deal

Re: [Talk-us] Incorporation

2009-12-04 Thread Andrew Ayre
can find lots of these via Google. On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 10:23 AM, Andrew Ayre a...@britishideas.com mailto:a...@britishideas.com wrote: I believe that California will charge $800 per year income tax for for-profit corporations even if you make a loss or no profit

Re: [OSM-talk] UserActivity / Vandalism etc.

2009-09-18 Thread Andrew Ayre
#! is called a shebang and allows you to run a script without having to specify which program runs it. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shebang_(Unix) Your wiki page shows that you specify perl on the command line, so the shebang isn't needed if the shell can find perl, but it's typical to add it

Re: [OSM-talk] Vote for Google to liberate their aerial imagery - *please help*

2009-09-12 Thread Andrew Ayre
Paul Johnson wrote: On Fri, 2009-09-11 at 14:49 +0100, Richard Fairhurst wrote: Google has a really enlightened guy called the Data Liberation Front. His role is to make it easy for people to get their data out of Google - rather than it being locked in. Notice that signing online

Re: [OSM-talk] Twitter bots

2009-08-24 Thread Andrew Ayre
Shaun McDonald wrote: On 24 Aug 2009, at 09:35, Tim Waters (chippy) wrote: Hi Alexander, Nice to see it popular, however... a few of us like to use a twitter search for openstreetmap to see what humans are saying but recently pretty much all of the tweets we receive for this search are

[OSM-talk] Stream in a tunnel

2009-08-24 Thread Andrew Ayre
This way: http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/39456905 is marked as layer = -1, tunnel = yes, waterway = stream. I was expecting it to be rendered by Mapnik as a dashed line and paler to indicate it was underground, but I don't see that. Any ideas why? Andy -- Andy PGP Key ID:

Re: [OSM-talk] Twitter bots

2009-08-20 Thread Andrew Ayre
Alexander Klink wrote: Hi everyone, This weekend, I hacked together a quick twitter bot, which now tweets all changesets in a certain are (in my case, Darmstadt, Germany) - see http://twitter.com/osm_darmstadt I've found it quite useful thus far, on the one hand I write better changeset

[OSM-talk] Business Building Conventions

2009-08-19 Thread Andrew Ayre
If I draw an outline for a freestanding building which is some kind of business, then I give the outline a name. Mapnik renders the name. If I draw the outline of a strip mall (a connected string of shops) this represents several businesses together. If I then put nodes on them and give the

Re: [OSM-talk] Business Building Conventions

2009-08-19 Thread Andrew Ayre
Roy Wallace wrote: On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 10:29 AM, Andrew Ayrea...@britishideas.com wrote: If I draw an outline for a freestanding building which is some kind of business, then I give the outline a name. Mapnik renders the name. If I draw the outline of a strip mall (a connected string of

Re: [OSM-talk] Something Might be Broken

2009-08-01 Thread Andrew Ayre
Jon Burgess wrote: On Fri, 2009-07-31 at 15:58 -0700, Andrew Ayre wrote: As Shaun mentioned in another email, this seems to be another instance of nodes missing from the minutely diffs. This is a known issue but I'm not sure if we have a trac ticket for it. I have put more details

Re: [OSM-talk] Something Might be Broken

2009-07-31 Thread Andrew Ayre
Jon Burgess wrote: 2009/7/31 Marc Schütz schue...@gmx.net: Wrong, osm2pgsql does process relations properly. If they aren't then Jon Burgess is happy to take a look to see if he can fix the problem with osm2pgsql. Second there has been no planet reload for a few weeks now. There's definitely

Re: [OSM-talk] Something Might be Broken

2009-07-31 Thread Andrew Ayre
Jon Burgess wrote: On Fri, 2009-07-31 at 09:36 -0700, Andrew Ayre wrote: Done. See: http://trac.openstreetmap.org/ticket/2118 I add add tickets for the other two issues I referred to later today. Thanks! As Shaun mentioned in another email, this seems to be another instance of nodes

Re: [OSM-talk] Something Might be Broken

2009-07-31 Thread Andrew Ayre
Jon Burgess wrote: On Fri, 2009-07-31 at 09:36 -0700, Andrew Ayre wrote: Done. See: http://trac.openstreetmap.org/ticket/2118 I add add tickets for the other two issues I referred to later today. Thanks! As Shaun mentioned in another email, this seems to be another instance of nodes

Re: [OSM-talk] Something Might be Broken

2009-07-31 Thread Andrew Ayre
Tom Hughes wrote: On 31/07/09 23:55, Andrew Ayre wrote: I think if the OSM API was improved so it could accept large changesets faster then that would greatly help out the people who are trying to add large amounts of data. So far I haven't see a fast and reliable method. Excuse me

[OSM-talk] Reverting Node Move

2009-07-30 Thread Andrew Ayre
Hi, I select a way with approx 2,000 nodes and move it in JOSM. I then commit the change. This creates v2 of the nodes but the way is still v1. How do I revert this changeset? It seems Potlatch can only revert ways? thanks, Andy -- Andy PGP Key ID: 0xDC1B5864

[OSM-talk] Something Might be Broken

2009-07-30 Thread Andrew Ayre
Take a look at this boundary where a forest and national park meet: http://osm.org/go/TwUljNo-- Notice that the boundaries don't line up. This is because the national park is in slightly the wrong place. The national park is this changeset uploaded yesterday:

[Talk-us] To Do Lists

2009-07-28 Thread Andrew Ayre
I would like to compile a To Do list for the wiki to encourage people in my city to help. I've created a template page so far for the city. I've seen the wiki page on fixing the Tiger data, but there is much more to do than just that. Has anyone created a complete list of everything needed to

Re: [OSM-talk] Problem With Relations

2009-07-26 Thread Andrew Ayre
Christiaan Welvaart wrote: On Sat, 25 Jul 2009, Karl Guggisberg wrote: Is this the expected behaviour? Is there a problem perhaps with that particular way? I think it isn't. I today applied the patch from the provider of the sort feature, but sorting of relations is still under

[OSM-talk] Problem With Relations

2009-07-25 Thread Andrew Ayre
Hi, I have a problem with many of the recent relations I've created in JOSM. In the past I didn't have a problem. Here is an example: http://osm.org/go/TwDfQSF?layers=0B00FTF This shows a single way in a relation that is supposed to be a closed loop of several ways. Only the first way has

Re: [OSM-talk] Problem With Relations

2009-07-25 Thread Andrew Ayre
well for me to get all members sorted On Jul 25, 2009, at 10:09 AM, Andrew Ayre wrote: Hi, I have a problem with many of the recent relations I've created in JOSM. In the past I didn't have a problem. Here is an example: http://osm.org/go/TwDfQSF?layers=0B00FTF This shows a single way

Re: [OSM-talk] Problem With Relations

2009-07-25 Thread Andrew Ayre
). Is this the expected behaviour? Is there a problem perhaps with that particular way? It is this one: http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/37858230 Andy Frederik Ramm wrote: Hi, Andrew Ayre wrote: I just downloaded the latest version and the sort button is always disabled. How do I

Re: [OSM-talk] Problem With Trails

2009-07-22 Thread Andrew Ayre
Andy Allan wrote: On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 6:11 AM, Andrew Ayrea...@britishideas.com wrote: I have uploaded two sets of trails on two different days. The first set have rendered, but the second set hasn't. I'm stumped as to why. I'll give examples of a single trail from each set. This one

Re: [OSM-talk] Problem With Trails

2009-07-21 Thread Andrew Ayre
, is probably a good idea. Woo trails! -Tyler On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 10:11 PM, Andrew Ayre a...@britishideas.com mailto:a...@britishideas.com wrote: I have uploaded two sets of trails on two different days. The first set have rendered, but the second set hasn't. I'm stumped

Re: [OSM-talk] Do we care if its forest or wood? Natural world mapping ...

2009-07-20 Thread Andrew Ayre
I've been adding the national forests in Arizona, and the Wikipedia definition doesn't fit too well. There are areas here that are inside an administrative boundary called a National Forest where the trees are very sparse - 10s of meters between them. Elsewhere in the forest the trees are

[OSM-talk] Problem With Trails

2009-07-20 Thread Andrew Ayre
I have uploaded two sets of trails on two different days. The first set have rendered, but the second set hasn't. I'm stumped as to why. I'll give examples of a single trail from each set. This one works: http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/37637417 This one doesn't:

[OSM-talk] Bulk Uploading

2009-07-18 Thread Andrew Ayre
I am converting public domain data into OSM files for bulk upload. This is data that currently is not in OSM. JOSM is a nightmare for uploading large amounts of data. I have a OSM file with 30k nodes (5Mb) and JOSM tells me it will take 15 hours... I tried bulk_upload.py and it fails with

Re: [Talk-us] Data Upload

2009-07-18 Thread Andrew Ayre
and it gave me Fatal error: The API returned: and then blank. It's uploaded something, but who knows what? I'm now trying JOSM again - it's saying 15 hours for a 5Mb upload So, does anyone have a reliable means of uploading OSM files created in JOSM? Andy Andrew Ayre wrote: After working

Re: [Talk-us] Data Upload

2009-07-18 Thread Andrew Ayre
wrote: On Sat, 2009-07-18 at 20:07 -0700, Andrew Ayre wrote: I tried bulk_upload.py and it gave me a 404 error. I've used this in the past: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Bulk_upload.pl Evidently it hasn't been updated to 0.6 yet. But, honestly, that shouldn't be *that* hard to do

[Talk-us] Data Upload

2009-07-15 Thread Andrew Ayre
After working on a new set of data for import, is there a faster way of uploading it than with JOSM? For example I have an OSM file with 30k nodes in it. JOSM says it will take four hours. Then after an hour the connection is reset. I understand there is some overhead with changesets, etc. but

[Talk-us] US Forest Service Wilderness Areas

2009-07-11 Thread Andrew Ayre
Hi, I am nearly finished with import of region 3 of the US Forest Service. Thanks to everyone that gave me help, especially Tyler. Next I am importing the region 3 wilderness areas. These are part of the US National Forests, but they are areas where there should be no evidence of human

Re: [Talk-us] US Forest Service Wilderness Areas

2009-07-11 Thread Andrew Ayre
The other question I have is: region 2 wilderness areas consist of 72 closed ways spread over two states. Should they all be put into a single boundary relation, should they each have their own boundary relation, or should I not use boundary relations at all? Andy Andrew Ayre wrote: Hi, I am

Re: [Talk-us] Frustrated

2009-07-08 Thread Andrew Ayre
Update: When I go to the live slippy map and look at the piece that was deleted I see someone added a boundary relation. So the piece is still there, but JOSM wants to remove it. Totally confused.. Andy Andrew Ayre wrote: Perhaps I am going about this the wrong way, but I am about ready

[Talk-us] Frustrated

2009-07-08 Thread Andrew Ayre
Perhaps I am going about this the wrong way, but I am about ready to give up. rant I started uploading the forest boundaries for Arizona using JOSM. Working well so far. However I saw that I made a mistake with one of the tags. So now I started re-uploading all my data using my original OSM

Re: [Talk-us] Frustrated

2009-07-08 Thread Andrew Ayre
and running it would be the appropriate way to do this sort of thing. On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 12:34 PM, Andrew Ayre a...@britishideas.com mailto:a...@britishideas.com wrote: Update: When I go to the live slippy map and look at the piece that was deleted I see someone added

Re: [Talk-us] Mapping of State/county/national parks

2009-06-25 Thread Andrew Ayre
Does boundary=national_park have nothing to do with US National Parks? I.e. it's just a park at the national level? Andy Tyler wrote: Just tagging the underlying landtypes and uses is fine (aside from most of them not being natural) but doesn't at all account for the difference between

Re: [Talk-us] Fixing Alignments in JOSM

2009-06-24 Thread Andrew Ayre
Thanks for the hints Russ! Andy Russ Nelson wrote: On Jun 23, 2009, at 2:57 PM, Andrew Ayre wrote: So I need to split the North-South way into two pieces and it intersects the East-West way in two places. Select the node where both roads are joined. Press 'g' to unglue (or Unglue Ways

[Talk-us] Fixing Alignments in JOSM

2009-06-23 Thread Andrew Ayre
I'm not sure if I can clearly explain my problem, but I'll try. The tiger street alignments are a mess in my area and I'm trying to fix them. I will come across a situation where there is a North-South way that crosses an East-West way. Thet are joined with a common node. However in reality it

Re: [Talk-us] Fixing Alignments in JOSM

2009-06-23 Thread Andrew Ayre
Dave, That worked. Perfect! Thanks, Andy Dave Hansen wrote: On Tue, 2009-06-23 at 12:35 -0700, Andrew Ayre wrote: They are on the same level. The north-south alignment of the street was changed at an intersection. Here is a screen shot: http://files.britishideas.com/public/mapping

[Talk-us] National Atlas

2009-06-21 Thread Andrew Ayre
Hi, I see the National Atlas has a shapefile download for Federal lands. I'm interested in getting the National forests in Arizona into OSM, but the data sets I've found so far are crude. This one has good detail IIRC. I can't find licensing information for this government site. Is all US

Re: [Talk-us] National Atlas

2009-06-21 Thread Andrew Ayre
Thanks Tyler and Eric! Andy Tyler wrote: I know that for the National Park boundaries the national atlas data is much worse than park specific data. I would suspect that to be the case for national forest boundaries as well on the National Atlas. As Eric said, most government data is

Re: [Talk-us] National Atlas

2009-06-21 Thread Andrew Ayre
OK, I have the data in JOSM in the WGS84 projection as a GPX file. I converted the GPX layer to a data layer. I then zoomed in to one small distinct piece and selected all the nodes. Next I went to the menu and choose Forest and entered a name for this piece (Coronado National Forest). However