Re: [Talk-GB] Copyright issues of checking details on other websites

2011-07-07 Thread Jerry Clough : SK53 on OSM
On 05/07/2011 10:51, Richard Fairhurst wrote: Tom Chance wrote: So I suspect it's potentially breaching copyright, and a matter of judgement as to whether it's worth the risk. For example, if you were copying in data from a commercial web site whose business model was based around that data

[Talk-GB] Nottingham Pub Meet-up Tuesday 21st June: reminder

2011-06-20 Thread Jerry Clough : SK53 on OSM
To my horror I see that I did't update the mani wiki page when I changed the calendar. Many apologies. Let me know if this is now too short notice. Just a quick reminder, that this is scheduled for 19:30 tomorrow, meet up at 18:30 for mapping walk outside the Lincolnshire Poacher. Wiki page:

Re: [Talk-GB] Woodland Trust and Open Data

2011-06-16 Thread Jerry Clough : SK53 on OSM
On 16/06/2011 15:31, TimSC wrote: My communication recent with the woodland trust, regarding open data: It would be good if you could do more on data openness - that is more permissive permissions to use data on your web site. Also it would be good to be able to upload creative commons

Re: [Talk-GB] OSM Governance: How Should Decisions Be Made?

2011-06-15 Thread Jerry Clough : SK53 on OSM
On 13/06/2011 00:38, TimSC wrote: The OSMF is currently reviewing its role in OSM. I want to know the view of ordinary mapping contributors about how decisions should be made in OSM. Is OSMF a supporting body? If so what does supporting mean in this context? Is it a governing body? What

Re: [Talk-GB] OSM Analysis New Data and bot

2011-06-14 Thread Jerry Clough : SK53 on OSM
On 14/06/2011 10:41, Craig Loftus wrote: On 14 June 2011 10:26, Richard Fairhurstrich...@systemed.net wrote: Potlatch 2's improved (not deployed yet) shapefile background layers asks you for the projection before loading, rather than relying on the .prj file. Thanks for clarifying. I'm not

Re: [Talk-GB] OSM Analysis New Data and bot

2011-06-09 Thread Jerry Clough : SK53 on OSM
Generally, I am still opposed to a bot. There is a substantial body of evidence that automated imports damage the ability to recruit and nuture new mappers. Recent posts about Latvia, Austria and The Netherlands on talk all substantiate this: in many cases the people recognising the issue were

Re: [Talk-GB] OSM Analysis New Data and bot

2011-06-09 Thread Jerry Clough : SK53 on OSM
On 09/06/2011 15:47, SteveC wrote: On Jun 9, 2011, at 7:42, Jerry Clough : SK53 on OSM sk53_...@yahoo.co.uk mailto:sk53_...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: Generally, I am still opposed to a bot. There is a substantial body of evidence that automated imports damage the ability to recruit and nuture new

Re: [Talk-GB] OpenKent, OSM coverage estimation

2011-06-08 Thread Jerry Clough : SK53 on OSM
On 08/06/2011 15:58, Richard Fairhurst wrote: TimSC wrote: On 07/06/11 14:37, Richard Fairhurst wrote: You don't need to put stuff into OSM to make it mashable-uppable. Most competent licences will have a Collective Work/Database provision to enable this. While this this strictly true it is

[Talk-GB] Any interest in a mapping party S Wales Sunday 26th June

2011-05-24 Thread Jerry Clough : SK53 on OSM
I plan to be in S. Wales for a few days late June, and will be free on Sunday 26th June. My suggestion would be Carmarthen : its not well mapped and is convenient for me, and reachable by public transport. Any takers? Jerry ___ Talk-GB mailing

[Talk-GB] Reminder: 3rd Nottingham Pub Meet-up Tuesday 24th May

2011-05-23 Thread Jerry Clough : SK53 on OSM
Just a quick reminder that I (and I hope some others) will be at the Lincolnshire Poacher from 19:30 tomorrow night for Nottingham area pub meet-up. http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Nottingham/Pub_Meetup Providing the weather isn't too bad I'll be there at 18:30, so that we can do something

[Talk-GB] Access Land tagging

2011-05-18 Thread Jerry Clough : SK53 on OSM
I recently did a blog post on Access Land http://sk53-osm.blogspot.com/2011/05/access-land.html. Part of the idea of doing this was to do something concrete to provide a basis for discussing better tagging for this sort of land. Basically, I added a relation tagged designation=access_land and

Re: [Talk-GB] Kent Heritage Trees Project - launch event report

2011-05-15 Thread Jerry Clough : SK53 on OSM
On 14/05/2011 18:28, TimSC wrote: On 14/05/11 17:39, Andy Mabbett wrote: The Woodland Trust do something similar (no URL, sorry, as I'm mobile). Do you mean http://www.woodlandtrust.org.uk/en/visit-woods/ ? I already asked for their data set but they were not very communicative... It would

Re: [Talk-GB] traditional orchard survey

2011-05-05 Thread Jerry Clough : SK53 on OSM
On 05/05/2011 09:35, Peter Miller wrote: On 5 May 2011 09:02, TimSC mappingli...@sheerman-chase.org.uk mailto:mappingli...@sheerman-chase.org.uk wrote: Hi all, I thought this UK list of orchards was interesting. It would be nice if they were to release it as open data. Not sure

Re: [Talk-GB] railway stations (again)

2011-04-26 Thread Jerry Clough : SK53 on OSM
On 26/04/2011 12:38, Thomas Wood wrote: On 04/26/11 12:04, Peter Miller wrote: Baker Street. There are three separate nodes tagged 'railway=station,name=Baker Street' (one for each line served). In reality there five separate lines each of which may have 2 platforms (unless any of them share

[Talk-GB] Nottingham Pub-meet Tuesday 26th April 19:30

2011-04-25 Thread Jerry Clough : SK53 on OSM
Just a quick reminder http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Nottingham/Pub_Meetup. Lincolnshire Poacher, Mansfield Road, 19:30. I'll do an hour mapping before hand, and will be outside the pub at 18:30. Cheers, Jerry ___ Talk-GB mailing list

Re: [Talk-GB] Definitive Public Right Of Way map for Northumberland

2011-04-21 Thread Jerry Clough : SK53 on OSM
On 21/04/2011 13:50, TimSC wrote: ... If you have patience, the OS 7th series sheets that are coming out of copyright and have rights of way on them. Of course they are 50 years out of date... (but it's mostly accurate in my experience). ... Regards, TimSC

[Talk-GB] Another Nottingham Pub Meet-up Week after Easter

2011-04-19 Thread Jerry Clough : SK53 on OSM
I've been remiss in getting another Nottingham Pub Meet-up organised. I'm going to suggest next Tuesday 26th April at the Lincolnshire Poacher, Mansfield Road, from 19:30 onwards. Preferably in the back-room snug. I'll check out if they do food at that time. I'll be outside at 18:30 for

Re: [Talk-GB] Roadside cycle-lanes vs. off-road cycle-paths

2011-04-15 Thread Jerry Clough : SK53 on OSM
On 15/04/2011 19:21, Phil Endecott wrote: Dear Experts, Can anyone propose a test that I can use to distinguish between roadside cycle-lanes and off-road cycle paths? This is part of my effort to superimpose OSM path info onto OS District Map. I would like to show off-road cycle paths that

Re: [Talk-GB] Vandalism/bad edits in Cardiff (changeset 7775606)

2011-04-11 Thread Jerry Clough : SK53 on OSM
On 11/04/2011 21:20, Paul Williams wrote: Hi, In and around Cardiff city centre, a new user has recently decided in his first edit (see http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/7775606) to go about and delete several things from the map including POIs, roads or parts of roads, and even the

Re: [Talk-GB] Publishing Self-Devised Walks

2011-04-09 Thread Jerry Clough : SK53 on OSM
On 09/04/2011 12:00, dan...@daniel-watkins.co.uk wrote: Hello all, Over the past couple of weeks, I've come up with a couple of interesting walks from my house. I would like to publish these on my blog, in the hopes that other people looking for walks in the area will find them. However, I

Re: [Talk-GB] findmaps using OSM, and current situation regarding use of OS 'stuff' used in Google maps

2011-04-06 Thread Jerry Clough : SK53 on OSM
On 06/04/2011 17:46, Jason Cunningham wrote: Hi all, Recently was made aware of Findmaps new free service that overlays a lot of recently released UK data over maps. http://free.findmaps.co.uk/ The available background maps are 'google maps' 'osm mapnik' and OS. You then chose to see several

Re: [Talk-GB] Rebooting the NAPTAN import?

2011-04-04 Thread Jerry Clough : SK53 on OSM
On 04/04/2011 19:36, Stuart Grimshaw wrote: On Mon, Apr 4, 2011 at 4:31 PM, Ed Avise...@waniasset.com wrote: What we seem to be edging towards is a mixed tagging of route_ref and relations, being respectively the 'rough' and 'proper' way to tag bus routes, and the need for some lint-like tool

Re: [Talk-GB] Rebooting the NAPTAN import?

2011-04-02 Thread Jerry Clough : SK53 on OSM
On 02/04/2011 15:14, Stuart Grimshaw wrote: This weekend sees Sheffield's first Transport Hackday, hosted at theGistLab[3], we've got a bunch of guys sitting here with various apps we've written or would like to write and one of the projects we identified as a potential target for today would be

Re: [Talk-GB] What's the best way of mapping/tagging...

2011-04-02 Thread Jerry Clough : SK53 on OSM
On 02/04/2011 17:32, Richard Mann wrote: Sounds like a highway=living_street to me (but highway=pedestrian would be fine) In general you need to tag the characteristics of the whole street if you can. Micro-mapping is a bonus, and you need to be careful not to make it unintelligable to the data

Re: [Talk-GB] OS and OSM

2011-03-21 Thread Jerry Clough : SK53 on OSM
On 11/03/2011 10:19, Steve Chilton wrote: I have been asked by editor of the Cartographic Journal to write a short piece on the effect of the release of OS OpenData on the OpenStreetMap project, and I am just trying to gather my thoughts, and make sure I cover all bases. I was present at

Re: [Talk-GB] Postcodes to Shapefile

2011-03-18 Thread Jerry Clough : SK53 on OSM
On 18/03/2011 22:56, Kev js1982 wrote: Resurrecting an old thread I know but with the NSPD Open data also being available allowing Northern Ireland to be generated and having access to an otherwise idle 64bit server I've taken the opportunity to revisit this, and have successfully created the

Re: [Talk-GB] Postcode finder based on OSM data

2011-03-17 Thread Jerry Clough : SK53 on OSM
On 17/03/2011 14:33, Derick Rethans wrote: On Thu, 17 Mar 2011, Matt Williams wrote: snip.. It doesn't currently parse any postcode tag on highway=* roads since strictly it's not the roads themselves that have postcodes, but the houses themselves. I didn't want to encourage this too much I

[Talk-GB] Nottingham Pub Meet-up last night

2011-03-09 Thread Jerry Clough : SK53 on OSM
We had a well attended meeting last night with 8 of us. A good mix, of active local mappers, old hands (smsm1 ;-) ), relative newcomers and interested map lurkers. There was enough enthusiasm to do it again, and a general view that a monthly was fine, so I'll suggest a time place for early

Re: [Talk-GB] Incorrect use of OS VectorMap District when mapping?

2011-03-09 Thread Jerry Clough : SK53 on OSM
On 09/03/2011 11:57, Michael Collinson wrote: At 12:32 10/02/2011, Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists) wrote: Henry Gomersall [mailto:h...@cantab.net] wrote: Sent: 10 February 2011 11:07 AM To: Peter Miller Cc: Talk GB Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] Incorrect use of OS VectorMap District when mapping?

[Talk-GB] Reminder: Nottingham OSM pub-meetup, this Tuesday 8th March

2011-03-07 Thread Jerry Clough : SK53 on OSM
Reminder that we're having a pub meet-up in Nottingham is this Tuesday 8th March from 7:30 pm, Sir John Borlase Warren, Canning Circus, Nottingham NG7 3GD. http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Nottingham/Pub_Meetup Cheers Jerry ___ Talk-GB mailing

Re: [Talk-GB] Southwark update

2011-03-03 Thread Jerry Clough : SK53 on OSM
On 03/03/2011 09:51, Richard Mann wrote: I think you might also consider a path density map or a shop/pub:street density map. That's the sort of stuff where OSM can really do much better than OS / Google. Richard This was exactly what I was trying to do with my various pub density maps

Re: [Talk-GB] Southwark update

2011-03-03 Thread Jerry Clough : SK53 on OSM
On 03/03/2011 03:21, Jason Cunningham wrote: Well done to all those who finished off the road network in Southwark. I was drawn into OSM when searching for a mapping solution in the far south of Southwark, and it's brilliant to see how things have come along. Tom, I've noticed you've added a

[Talk-GB] Address information in MapDust bugs

2011-02-24 Thread Jerry Clough : SK53 on OSM
Recently, I have noticed a number of MapDust bugs which contain a postcode sector and, apparently, a range of housenumbers (e.g., Southdale Dr 40-98, NG4 1, GB for http://www.mapdust.com/detail/142061). There is no postcode or address information at this locality in OSM. I presume that it is

Re: [Talk-GB] Address information in MapDust bugs

2011-02-24 Thread Jerry Clough : SK53 on OSM
On 24/02/2011 13:42, Steve Doerr wrote: On 24/02/2011 13:14, Jerry Clough : SK53 on OSM wrote: Recently, I have noticed a number of MapDust bugs which contain a postcode sector and, apparently, a range of housenumbers (e.g., Southdale Dr 40-98, NG4 1, GB for http://www.mapdust.com/detail

Re: [Talk-GB] B72 is a wrap

2011-02-15 Thread Jerry Clough : SK53 on OSM
On 15/02/2011 15:32, Ed Avis wrote: Andy Robinson (blackadder-listsajrlists@... writes: http://blog.mappa-mercia.org/2011/02/whats-in-postcode.html Great work! How can you tell when you have every postcode and is there some way of checking them against the OS OpenData postcode centroids? I

Re: [Talk-GB] Armchair-mapping postcodes

2011-02-15 Thread Jerry Clough : SK53 on OSM
On 15/02/2011 17:23, Ed Avis wrote: Andy Robinson (blackadder-listsajrlists@... writes: Great work! How can you tell when you have every postcode and is there some way of checking them against the OS OpenData postcode centroids? Just by being systematic. If you have Chillly's codepoint

[Talk-GB] OSM Pub Meet Nottingham Tueday 8th March

2011-02-15 Thread Jerry Clough : SK53 on OSM
Just a quick announcement. A first pub meet for OSM mappers in the extended Nottingham area is scheduled for Tuesday 8th March at the John Borlase Warren http://osm.org/go/eu8ZoGm84--, Canning Circus, Nottingham NG7 3GD. from 19:30 onwards. Wiki page at:

Re: [Talk-GB] Incorrect use of OS VectorMap District when mapping?

2011-02-10 Thread Jerry Clough : SK53 on OSM
On 09/02/2011 20:27, Kevin Peat wrote: Hi Jason, I am the mapper (user:devonshire) who imported the woods in your first example around Dartmouth but it was last May so not exactly recently. The woods that are there now are a lot better than the NPE traced ones that we had before. I took the

Re: [Talk-GB] Adding a further 250, 000 UK roads quickly using a Bot?

2011-02-03 Thread Jerry Clough : SK53 on OSM
On 02/02/2011 21:10, Peter Miller wrote: ITO have been offering a service to compare osm road names with os locator road names for a while now[1] which has encouraged a lot of activity - and has even led to Andy to obsession.[2] I have also suffered from a bout of urgent mapping myself while

Re: [Talk-GB] Adding a further 250, 000 UK roads quickly using a Bot?

2011-02-03 Thread Jerry Clough : SK53 on OSM
On 03/02/2011 13:36, Tom Chance wrote: On 3 February 2011 11:51, Ed Avis e...@waniasset.com mailto:e...@waniasset.com wrote: I think automatically importing the OS data for areas where OSM currently has little to no coverage - or coverage merely traced from Yahoo imagery - is

Re: [Talk-GB] Adding a further 250, 000 UK roads quickly using a Bot?

2011-02-03 Thread Jerry Clough : SK53 on OSM
On 03/02/2011 15:24, Peter Miller wrote: Or do both? Surely the guys at the Royal Commission on Ancient Monuments are not about to head out on bikes to survey the area. What they will do, possibly, is get the boundary correct and put names on the buildings but not until the road

Re: [Talk-GB] pay_scale_area

2011-02-02 Thread Jerry Clough : SK53 on OSM
On 02/02/2011 13:39, Richard Mann wrote: On Wed, Feb 2, 2011 at 12:51 PM, SK%3 sk53_...@yahoo.co.uk mailto:sk53_...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: ... this information is needed and is currently poorly communicated: see if you can obtain a leaflet showing the edge of the fare zone with any