Re: [Talk-GB] Scheduled Monument

2020-07-30 Thread Tony OSM
g. HMPA2 (which is a Historic Marine Protected Area). This makes it easier to identify by the listing as to the type of heritage designation (suggest that code references/descriptors could be included on a wiki for ref:hs=*) On 23/07/2020 11:39, Tony OSM wrote: Hi When I started mapping these

Re: [Talk-GB] Scheduled Monument

2020-07-23 Thread Tony OSM
020 10:47, Robert Skedgell wrote: On 15/07/2020 10:18, Tony OSM wrote: Whilst mapping some of my local historic places I have found Scheduled Monuments. They are described in the Historic England list as Heritage Category: Scheduled Monument and has a List Entry Number. Building are listed as He

Re: [Talk-GB] Electric vehicle charging points

2020-07-22 Thread Tony OSM
I have compared some of the data in my locale against several I have mapped. The NCR data does not indicate - I think - the number of chargepoints at a location - my Local Asda has 4 but only one entry in NCR. Others are missing and some recent ones (in the last year) included. One at my

Re: [Talk-GB] UPRN tag proposal page

2020-07-21 Thread Tony OSM
Thanks for the effort. No problem to vote for this, no "red flags" for me. Tony On 20/07/2020 22:11, Rob Nickerson wrote: Hi all, As discussed at the State of the Map online workshop, I took away an action to draft a proposal page for ref:GB:uprn. This page is now up online.

Re: [Talk-GB] Scheduled Monument

2020-07-16 Thread Tony OSM
15 Jul 2020 at 11:17, Brian Prangle <mailto:bpran...@gmail.com>> wrote: I use listed_status =Scheduled Monument On Wed, 15 Jul 2020, 10:19 Tony OSM, mailto:tonyo...@gmail.com>> wrote: Whilst mapping some of my local historic places I have found Sche

[Talk-GB] Scheduled Monument

2020-07-15 Thread Tony OSM
Whilst mapping some of my local historic places I have found Scheduled Monuments. They are described in the Historic England list as Heritage Category: Scheduled Monument and has a List Entry Number. Building are listed as Heritage Category: Listed Building , Grade: (I, II*, II) and a list

Re: [Talk-GB] Great North Trail MTB Route

2020-07-12 Thread Tony OSM
Hi On https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sustrans the first line is '*Sustrans* is a UK walking and cycling charity and custodian of the National Cycle Network .' Custodian is the important term. The Sustrans website

Re: [Talk-GB] UPRN & USRN Tagging

2020-07-03 Thread Tony OSM
', 'Numbered Street' and 'Unofficial Street Name'. In addition to this, some streets appear to have a UPRN for the 'street record'. On 03/07/2020 15:31, Tony OSM wrote: As we have access to the data and Robert Whittaker has produced a great UPRN locations map, how are we planning to tag OSM objects

[Talk-GB] UPRN & USRN Tagging

2020-07-03 Thread Tony OSM
As we have access to the data and Robert Whittaker has produced a great UPRN locations map, how are we planning to tag OSM objects? ref:UK:uprn and ref:UK:usrn have been suggested as tags - I think this is the way to go. There is also Key:ref:NPLG:UPRN:1 in the wiki. Question: Should uprn

Re: [Talk-GB] UPRN Locations Map

2020-07-03 Thread Tony OSM
11:23, Tony OSM wrote: There was a reference to £1000 worth of data being made free each month to individual users - can't find out how this works yet. This may allow us as individuals to populate OSM and OSM essentially aggregates the data - rather like postcode data. Generally reconstr

Re: [Talk-GB] UPRN Locations Map

2020-07-03 Thread Tony OSM
Thanks Russ - didn't know about https://os.openstreetmap.org/ Free beer or free speech -  I'm looking at. T On 03/07/2020 11:35, Russ Garrett wrote: On Fri, 3 Jul 2020 at 11:24, Tony OSM wrote: There was a reference to £1000 worth of data being made free each month to individual users

Re: [Talk-GB] UPRN Locations Map

2020-07-03 Thread Tony OSM
I spent part of yesterday navigating the relevant OS and LandRegistry sites and trying to figure out what we can do. We can basically put UPRN and USRN into OSM freely - the license is written to enable that.  OS have also separated out the ability to match UPRN and USRN to address and street

Re: [Talk-GB] M58 / A49 Link Road Wigan - Open - MAPPED

2020-07-01 Thread Tony OSM
2020, at 6:25 PM, Tony OSM wrote: Reported in Local Newspapers https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/greater-manchester-news/long-awaited-20m-road-linking-18495724 the road has opened. Can anyone point me to a definitive line to allow me to map it, or does anyone else want to map it corre

Re: [Talk-GB] Virtual meeting: New open data and towards more UK addresses

2020-06-29 Thread Tony OSM
Hi Rob I think a meeting this weekend is a good idea. Even if a basic discussion of what we understand is available and the creation of an agenda of how to use the data. Tony Shield On 29/06/2020 20:37, Rob Nickerson wrote: Hi all, The new open data comes out on Wednesday this week (land

Re: [Talk-GB] M58 / A49 Link Road Wigan - Open - Needs Mapping

2020-06-29 Thread Tony OSM
in this changset: https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/68842940 --- https://hdyc.neis-one.org/?spiregrain spiregrain_...@ksglp.org.uk On Sat, 27 Jun 2020, at 6:25 PM, Tony OSM wrote: Reported in Local Newspapers https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/greater-manchester-news/long-awaited-20m-road

Re: [Talk-GB] "secret" site

2020-06-28 Thread Tony OSM
I question the meaning of the word 'secret' when used in a newspaper. My observations are that secret means the reporter didn't know about it. Tony On 28/06/2020 00:47, David Woolley wrote: On 27/06/2020 23:37, Dave Love wrote: I was going to map a covered reservoir round here that I've

[Talk-GB] M58 / A49 Link Road Wigan - Open - Needs Mapping

2020-06-27 Thread Tony OSM
Reported in Local Newspapers https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/greater-manchester-news/long-awaited-20m-road-linking-18495724 the road has opened. Can anyone point me to a definitive line to allow me to map it, or does anyone else want to map it correctly. There is a way marked

Re: [Talk-GB] Land Registry INSPIRE data - 1 July OGL release

2020-06-27 Thread Tony OSM
Agree with - My preference was for ref:GB:uprn and ref:GB:usrn, Can we put onto the Wiki as placeholders and ask people to refrain from changes until agreement on how best to use them and apply a source reference. I'm thinking that the data may be more accurate than our existing methods

Re: [Talk-GB] JOSM Plugin for the FHRS API

2020-06-26 Thread Tony OSM
for that one without the user having to select it. Kai On 26.06.2020 17:14, Tony OSM wrote: Hi I get that also. In my case its caused by not selecting an entry in the table presented after the initial Search entry. I've reported this issue & Kai is aware. Tony On 26/06/2020 15:54, Dave F

Re: [Talk-GB] JOSM Plugin for the FHRS API

2020-06-26 Thread Tony OSM
Hi I get that also. In my case its caused by not selecting an entry in the table presented after the initial Search entry. I've reported this issue & Kai is aware. Tony On 26/06/2020 15:54, Dave F via Talk-GB wrote: I'm getting this after selecting the Search Entry option:

Re: [Talk-GB] JOSM Plugin for the FHRS API

2020-06-26 Thread Tony OSM
Hi It works without the FHRS:ID - just used it on 5 businesses I know. It needs the address details  - road and place seem to be sufficient, post code is optional. The FHRS -> Search entry will take the address details and get one or more entries - select which you want. Then a dialog

Re: [Talk-GB] JOSM Plugin for the FHRS API

2020-06-26 Thread Tony OSM
Hi Kai I've looked at github and your OSM profile - impressive, more so than mine. Pleased to make your acquaintance. I will download the fhrs app and give you feedback. Regards Tony On 26/06/2020 10:45, o...@poppe.dev wrote: Hey Tony, as I'm from the other side of the Channel, I doubt

Re: [Talk-GB] JOSM Plugin for the FHRS API

2020-06-26 Thread Tony OSM
Hi Kai I'd like to help as its a good idea - however I don't know you, so could you get some community people who are well known to vouch for you, its just that I don't want strange software on my machine. Regards Tony Shield TonyS999 On 26/06/2020 05:58, Kai Michael Poppe - OSM wrote:

Re: [Talk-GB] Cycle Track - part/soft protection tags - proposal

2020-06-17 Thread Tony OSM
Hi Guys While investigating I cam across this company who have a product line which uses these terms and shows pictures - they have an exemplar from Greenwich which I believe to be in London. site is - http://www.rediweldtraffic.co.uk/products/cycle-lane-products/ TonyS999 On 16/06/2020

Re: [Talk-GB] Road closures/changes during Covid19

2020-05-24 Thread Tony OSM
Hi Yes a very good idea. I'm in  North West England - the main driver in this area is Manchester. I have seen social media  and news outlets showing photos of Deansgate, Manchester with expanded pedestrian areas and expanded cycle lanes; motor vehicles removed - but I don't know if there are

Re: [Talk-GB] Rights of way mapping - making it easy for newcomers to OSM (perhaps!)

2020-05-14 Thread Tony OSM
anks, Nick *From:* Gareth L *Sent:* 14 May 2020 09:56 *To:* Tony OSM *Cc:* talk-gb@openstreetmap.org *Subject:* Re: [Talk-GB] Rights of way mapping - making it easy for newcomers to OSM (perhaps!) I wonder if it would be poss

Re: [Talk-GB] Rights of way mapping - making it easy for newcomers to OSM (perhaps!)

2020-05-14 Thread Tony OSM
Hi Nick I like the two stage approach - surveying then mapping. It would work well - some of my friends like walking but can't map to save their life, whereas I can't walk far but love mapping - Win Win for us all. May I suggest that a layer be created for JOSM with all the paths and their

Re: [Talk-GB] Talk-GB Digest, Vol 164, Issue 16

2020-05-12 Thread Tony OSM
What a useful insight into a parentless system. Tony On 12/05/2020 18:02, Philip Barnes wrote: On Mon, 2020-05-11 at 21:35 +0100, SK53 wrote: Its quite possible that this just cannot be done. I believe Leicestershire, and consequently Rutland as well, does not use any reference to tehe

Re: [Talk-GB] Lancashire prow_ref format (Was: Public Rights of Way - legal vs reality)

2020-05-11 Thread Tony OSM
sh ID/name, PROW type, number) I support. Regards. *From:*Tony OSM *Sent:* 10 May 2020 12:29 *To:* talk-gb@openstreetmap.org *Subject:* Re: [Talk-GB] Lancashire prow_ref format (Was: Public Rights of Way - legal vs reality) I agree with Adam. In the published path orders fixed to lamposts etc th

Re: [Talk-GB] Lancashire prow_ref format (Was: Public Rights of Way - legal vs reality)

2020-05-10 Thread Tony OSM
I agree with Adam. In the published path orders fixed to lamposts etc the written description includes parish, type, number. Sometimes in that order sometimes type, number, parish. There is no consistency. Parish, type, number is likely to be understood by every user of OSM and I have used it

[Talk-GB] COVID-19 Department of Health uses OSM

2020-05-04 Thread Tony OSM
Hi Noticed that the government website uses OSM on which to overlay coronavirus data. https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/#local-authorities ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb

Re: [Talk-GB] Public Rights of Way - legal vs reality

2020-05-04 Thread Tony OSM
Hi Nathan I've done some work on Chorley PROW's recently. Populated using the style Chorley FP 1; Lancaster area uses the numbering convention in MapThePaths eg 1-1 23. Fortunately I know the area well having lived in the vicinity for 30 years so I can do armchair mapping with some knowledge.

Re: [Talk-GB] CWGC: worldwide, war graves

2020-04-26 Thread Tony OSM
Am browsing the CWGC website as I write, looking at my locality. Clearly landuse=cemetery is the principal tag for the typical CWGC cemetery - dedicated to military with rows of the fallen. There is a proposal for cemetary=sector which appears to have failed. CWGC is showing in my locality >

Re: [Talk-GB] HS2 Phase 1 Construction NTP

2020-04-17 Thread Tony OSM
we've seen news reports of parts of the alignment fenced off and invaded by protestors - those parts are certainly under construction, and the pictures show that bulldozers have been active. I think if we can identify those areas then construction is now correct. Tony Shield TonyS999 On

Re: [Talk-GB] prow_ref format for Dorset Public Rights of Way

2020-04-16 Thread Tony OSM
Hi Rob There is a very similar state in Lancashire, I can imagine the Lancashire officer providing  a very similar response to that from Dorset. Dorset are saying that their definitive statement is listed by named parish, status and route number. I believe that as the public definitive

Re: [Talk-GB] Geospatial Commission to release UPRN/ UPSN identifiers under Open Government Licence

2020-04-10 Thread Tony OSM
Prefer capitalised ref:UK:uprn and ref:UK:usrn as wikipage for ref https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:ref shows towards the end that US and FR are used to build up refs, FR has a page showing all their ref's

Re: [Talk-GB] Geospatial Commission to release UPRN/ UPSN identifiers under Open Government Licence

2020-04-09 Thread Tony OSM
That makes perfect sense to me. Any other views? Tony On 09/04/2020 14:31, Robert Whittaker (OSM lists) wrote: On Thu, 9 Apr 2020 at 14:26, Robert Whittaker (OSM lists) wrote: On Thu, 9 Apr 2020 at 09:21, Tony OSM wrote: If the data is to be in the public domain the next step has

Re: [Talk-GB] Geospatial Commission to release UPRN/ UPSN identifiers under Open Government Licence

2020-04-09 Thread Tony OSM
Thanks to Andy for highlighting this. If the data is to be in the public domain the next step has to be tagging. Do we need country specific tags for these two pieces of data? What should they be? Do we need a wiki for them , where?  I'll summarise the answers and create a wiki page if

Re: [Talk-GB] Adding Leeds Bins to OpenStreetMaps

2020-03-26 Thread Tony OSM
ag & date seems like a really good idea too – we hadn’t thought of that. Cheers, Patrick *From:*Tony OSM mailto:tonyo...@gmail.com>> *Date:*Tuesday, 24 March 2020 at 12:18 *To:*"talk-gb@openstreetmap.org <mailto:talk-gb@openst

Re: [Talk-GB] Adding Leeds Bins to OpenStreetMaps

2020-03-24 Thread Tony OSM
Agree with Silent Spike. This has a lot of similarities with NaPTAN bus stop imports - conflating and verification/validation are the difficulties there - looking at the West Midlands notes may help. For Leeds with a workforce regularly checking/cleaning bins then perhaps the tool you are

Re: [Talk-GB] European Water Project - Introduction

2020-03-13 Thread Tony OSM
I completely agree with Colin On 13/03/2020 12:12, Colin Smale wrote: Daniel, that is completely uncalled for. If you can't live and let live, take your own advice and go procreate somewhere else. On 2020-03-13 12:27, Daniel Holsey wrote: Fuck Off On Fri, 13 Mar 2020 at 10:31, European

Re: [Talk-GB] "OSMUK-in-a-box"

2020-02-06 Thread Tony OSM
Absolutely Fabulous! Not done Docker but I'll start learning how to get it on those environments. I'll try to support by QA and writing instructions as to how to get it live. Cheers TonyS999 On 06/02/2020 12:29, Jez Nicholson wrote: I come from a database background, and when a question

[Talk-GB] OSM Stickers

2020-02-03 Thread Tony OSM
Hi I've been pointed to the https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/OSM_Promotional_Material_Programme page. Noticed one of their stickers contained a QR code. Would it be possible to create stickers containing QR code for UK or locations such a AGM in Leeds? Could a mechanism be provided to

Re: [Talk-GB] railway=halt

2020-02-01 Thread Tony OSM
Hi Great to see your station work. I agree they should all be station. If DfT classifies stations as A-F or whatever then a tag to indicate that would be useful. These DfT classifications seem to be used by the rail industry to indicate roughly importance by passenger numbers, from which

Re: [Talk-GB] Update bus stop names

2020-01-18 Thread Tony OSM
Hi Guys I imported NaPTAN data for my local area (Chorley) some months ago. Took the data for Lancashire and filtered on Town:Chorley. Some of the stops were excluded because the data had not been correctly input by reason of no entry, misspelt, wrong town entered. Using the JOSM:Conflate

[Talk-GB] New Entertainment venue - what tags?

2019-12-29 Thread Tony OSM
Hi In Chorley a new entertainment business has opened - https://www.escapeentertainmentvenue.co.uk/ It's primary offering is TenPin bowling, Gator Adventure golf (a form of indoor golf) and a bar & restaurant. What is the best way to tag? One node or three nodes? The new building is

Re: [Talk-GB] Laura Ashley - looking for tagging consensus

2019-12-20 Thread Tony OSM
Hi I've been in several of their shops, have just looked at their website, and can see the tags below - -  I think that this is a lifestyle shop that sells all of those tagged bar fashion. Lifestyle tag  is only used 5 times but that word occurs frequently on their website. My 2nd choice is

Re: [Talk-GB] What is farmland?

2019-12-16 Thread Tony OSM
Mapping Fields - preferred method I think is individual fields, or at least polygons which are based on road or natural boundaries. Mea Culpa - I have also mapped farmland as larger polygons. Large polygons make life difficult when a field changes use - near where I live it becomes scrub for

Re: [Talk-GB] What is farmland?

2019-12-16 Thread Tony OSM
I have always thought that farmland as an English word means land used for production by growing things - cabbages, cows etc. Hierarchy then led to arable, pasture, horticulture. But what do you do with managed woodland eg coppiced or pollarded or left to semi-wild animal populations eg deer,

Re: [Talk-GB] OpenStreetCam in JOSM

2019-12-06 Thread Tony OSM
Hi Brian Occasionally I have a problem displaying the images. I often see the road sign symbols and just one sequence track of photos. If I focus elsewhere sometimes the photo tracks become visible and I can view the images. Most of the time they work as expected. BTW - I still have the

Re: [Talk-GB] Lancashire prow_ref reference table

2019-11-26 Thread Tony OSM
each individual authority. Kind regards, Adam On Tue, 26 Nov 2019, 16:04 Robert Whittaker (OSM lists), <mailto:robert.whittaker%2b...@gmail.com>> wrote: On Tue, 26 Nov 2019 at 14:32, Dave F via Talk-GB mailto:talk-gb@openstreetmap.org>> wrote: > > On 26/11/2

[Talk-GB] Lancashire prow_ref reference table

2019-11-26 Thread Tony OSM
Lancashire PROW data has been made available and is presented on http://www.mapthepaths.org.uk/ and http://www.rowmaps.com/ The reference presented is in the style "9-4 5". I have researched and analysed the data used by Rowmaps, read Lancashire County Council public notices and noted that

Re: [Talk-GB] Types of Kissing Gates

2019-11-20 Thread Tony OSM
Happy with a kissing_gate tag that could combine these variations. Can we also discuss paths/tracks which have a vehicle gate and a pedestrian gate alongside each other. Is it one complex gate? or for routing do we have to place two gates and draw paths through each? Personally I just need

Re: [Talk-GB] Resurrecting the 'find the missing paths for 2026' project

2019-10-02 Thread Tony OSM
Hi I've been using MapThe Paths for the last year to add my local ROW's to OSM - I find it a great help. If we can get all of the data into OSM it will enable all ROW users to identify in one source of ROWs and NOT.ROWs. This is important as I have identified several paths which perhaps

Re: [Talk-GB] Canoeing infrastructure/river features

2019-09-01 Thread Tony OSM
Hi, Had a quick look at https://opencanalmap.uk/about/ particularly the Canal & River Trust license link at the bottom, it clearly states 3.1 This licence does not permit the use of: .3.1.4Data for or in connection with or for the direct or indirect benefit of any Commercial