example.
Best of luck with the further discussions.
Cheers
Andy
From: John Baker [mailto:rovas...@hotmail.com]
Sent: 06 July 2014 00:57
To: Rob Nickerson; Talk-GB
Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] Getting Highway Agency information into OSM
Rob,
To be fair when I did post that there had been
On 05/07/14 22:09, Philip Barnes wrote:
Proposed highways should certainly not render, for example I drove
through Uttoxeter with osmand running and the proposed highways make the
map pretty confusing.
But we should be able to adjust the way osmand renders the data? As long
as it is tagged
Another option to the GPS data, would be to use Mapillary to provide the latest
images of the roads, and automatically a GPS trace is included too. This would
mean that the images could be used for us to map alongside a feed of the
changes that are known. This also has the advantage in that
Hi John,
The negativity, or least lack of enthusiasm, is partly due to the
complexity of the issue. We'd love to have Highways Agency data as open
data but if the data is based upon Ordnance Survey data this becomes a
quite tricky. Normally you would have the data holder apply for a Exemption
Thanks Phil, I agree that proposed highways should only be added (and
tagged as proposed) when they are certain to get built, however, we're not
talking about proposed highways here. We are talking about working with the
HA to get dates of road completions.
Rob
p.s. OSMand rendering is a matter
.
Oh well the do-ocracy system of OSM once again descends into no-ocracy.
Date: Sat, 5 Jul 2014 17:47:39 +0100
From: rob.j.nicker...@gmail.com
To: talk-gb@openstreetmap.org
Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] Getting Highway Agency information into OSM
Hi John,
The negativity, or least lack of enthusiasm
On 5 July 2014 19:20, John Baker rovas...@hotmail.com wrote:
snip
I'll let them them know about the copyright situation (which I was fully
aware from day one was a concern) and there is no real interest from the
OSM community for establishing this.
John,
Please don't tell the Highways
I am not convinced proposed highways are especially useful in OSM, until
construction starts they are just ideas and break the map what we see
rule.
Proposed highways should certainly not render, for example I drove
through Uttoxeter with osmand running and the proposed highways make the
map
I totally agree with Rob, we are tied by the law. The OS need to
realise that the data they hold was paid for by us and to restrict its
use by Govt is plain wrong. The HA should understand this so they can
pressure their Ministers to open things up.
http://bigfatfrog67.me
On 05/07/2014
week to see what I can sort out.
John
Date: Sat, 5 Jul 2014 21:19:55 +0100
Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] Getting Highway Agency information into OSM
From: rob.j.nicker...@gmail.com
To: rovas...@hotmail.com; talk-gb@openstreetmap.org
On 5 July 2014 19:20, John Baker rovas...@hotmail.com wrote:
snip
On 3 July 2014 17:51, John Baker rovas...@hotmail.com wrote:
Once the legal hurdle has been overcome the idea is to setup a process
stream so they can let me/us know what is happening (a simple spreadsheet or
something) and get it added to OSM quickly.
A better approach would be to get them to
On 3 July 2014 17:51, John Baker rovas...@hotmail.com wrote:
He just said we release the plans and
they are public domain.
Public Domain (British English, especially Government and in the
Courts): Information known by the public, could be under any kind of
copyright
Public Domain (US
On 03/07/14 17:51, John Baker wrote:
The first thing I am worried about is the copyright of the various
plans. Some/many seem to be derived from OS maps.
A legitimate concern.
Now I am no expert on the copyright situation here and dialogue is
difficult they know little about OSM really. He
could just republish it. So I am
wanting to know what we can use.
(actually the guy I spoke to didn't sound like he was even from the UK... -
Australian maybe but that is whole different story)
Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2014 18:05:55 +0100
Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] Getting Highway Agency information
that if there plans were based on the OS streetview (rather
than the more detailed ones) then we could use them.
Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2014 18:23:34 +0100
From: o...@raggedred.net
To: talk-gb@openstreetmap.org
Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] Getting Highway Agency information into OSM
On 03/07/14 17:51, John Baker
@openstreetmap.org
Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] Getting Highway Agency information into OSM
On 03/07/14 17:51, John Baker wrote:
The first thing I am worried about is the copyright of the various
plans. Some/many seem to be derived from OS maps.
A legitimate concern.
Now I am no expert
that if there plans were based on the OS streetview (rather
than the more detailed ones) then we could use them.
Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2014 18:23:34 +0100
From: o...@raggedred.net
To: talk-gb@openstreetmap.org
Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] Getting Highway Agency information into OSM
On 03/07/14 17:51, John Baker
that.
Maybe it is just down to how much OSMers enjoy mapping new features in their
area.
From: sh...@shaunmcdonald.me.uk
Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2014 20:30:15 +0100
To: danstowell+...@gmail.com
CC: talk-gb@openstreetmap.org
Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] Getting Highway Agency information into OSM
Maybe
To: danstowell+...@gmail.com
CC: talk-gb@openstreetmap.org
Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] Getting Highway Agency information into OSM
Maybe a simple method is to use the OSM notes system, which is what the
feature was designed for?
Shaun
On 3 Jul 2014, at 19:10, Dan S danstowell+...@gmail.com
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