[Talk-GB] 10 fascinating facts about OSM OSGB

2013-04-18 Thread sk53.osm
OSGB has just tweeted it's 10 fascinating facts. I thought it would be fun to compare with OSM 1. Pylons: 80,517 ; 58,487 (OSMhttp://taginfo.openstreetmap.org.uk/search?q=tower#values ) 2. Post Boxes: 93.728 (OSGB); 42,742 (OSMhttp://taginfo.openstreetmap.org.uk/search?q=post_box#values

Re: [Talk-GB] 10 fascinating facts about OSM OSGB

2013-04-18 Thread Shaun McDonald
Not all of NaPTAN was imported. It was only done in some regions. It still needs the maintenance, i.e. updating from the updates from NaPTAN too, however no tools have been built to make this happen yet. Shaun On 18 Apr 2013, at 11:41, Barnett, Phillip phillip.barn...@itn.co.uk wrote: I

Re: [Talk-GB] 10 fascinating facts about OSM OSGB

2013-04-18 Thread Dave F.
On 18/04/2013 10:27, sk53.osm wrote: OSGB has just tweeted it's 10 fascinating facts. I thought it would be fun to compare with OSM 1. Post Boxes: 93.728 (OSGB); 42,742 (OSM http://taginfo.openstreetmap.org.uk/search?q=post_box#values) Excuse ignorance, but what's OSGB? Ordnance

Re: [Talk-GB] 10 fascinating facts about OSM OSGB

2013-04-18 Thread Dave F.
On 18/04/2013 11:59, SomeoneElse wrote: Shaun McDonald wrote: Not all of NaPTAN was imported. It was only done in some regions. It still needs the maintenance, i.e. updating from the updates from NaPTAN too, however no tools have been built to make this happen yet. In the other direction

Re: [Talk-GB] 10 fascinating facts about OSM OSGB

2013-04-18 Thread Shaun McDonald
On 18 Apr 2013, at 12:33, Dave F. dave...@madasafish.com wrote: On 18/04/2013 11:59, SomeoneElse wrote: Shaun McDonald wrote: Not all of NaPTAN was imported. It was only done in some regions. It still needs the maintenance, i.e. updating from the updates from NaPTAN too, however no tools

Re: [Talk-GB] 10 fascinating facts about OSM OSGB

2013-04-18 Thread Dave F.
On 18/04/2013 12:52, Shaun McDonald wrote: Updates are a lot harder to do as you have to deal with differences When you say differences, do you mean within the tags? Does it need to do that, could it not do a simpler find replace? Dave F. ___

Re: [Talk-GB] 10 fascinating facts about OSM OSGB

2013-04-18 Thread Tom Hughes
On 18/04/13 13:16, Gregory wrote: Which one is approved by OSM London? Bizarrely it's the Blue Posts: http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/97209483 Seems that Derick decided to approve it for us ;-) Mind he also added food=yes which is a bit hopeful given the somewhat random nature

Re: [Talk-GB] 10 fascinating facts about OSM OSGB

2013-04-18 Thread Shaun McDonald
On 18 Apr 2013, at 13:01, Dave F. dave...@madasafish.com wrote: On 18/04/2013 12:52, Shaun McDonald wrote: Updates are a lot harder to do as you have to deal with differences When you say differences, do you mean within the tags? Does it need to do that, could it not do a simpler find

Re: [Talk-GB] 10 fascinating facts about OSM OSGB

2013-04-18 Thread Chris Hill
On 18/04/13 14:14, Shaun McDonald wrote: On 18 Apr 2013, at 13:01, Dave F. dave...@madasafish.com wrote: On 18/04/2013 12:52, Shaun McDonald wrote: Updates are a lot harder to do as you have to deal with differences When you say differences, do you mean within the tags? Does it need to do

Re: [Talk-GB] 10 fascinating facts about OSM OSGB

2013-04-18 Thread Oliver Jowett
On Thu, Apr 18, 2013 at 3:02 PM, Chris Hill o...@raggedred.net wrote: On 18/04/13 14:14, Shaun McDonald wrote: On 18 Apr 2013, at 13:01, Dave F. dave...@madasafish.com wrote: On 18/04/2013 12:52, Shaun McDonald wrote: Updates are a lot harder to do as you have to deal with differences

Re: [Talk-GB] 10 fascinating facts about OSM OSGB

2013-04-18 Thread Chris Hill
On 18/04/13 16:40, Oliver Jowett wrote: On Thu, Apr 18, 2013 at 3:02 PM, Chris Hill o...@raggedred.net mailto:o...@raggedred.net wrote: On 18/04/13 14:14, Shaun McDonald wrote: On 18 Apr 2013, at 13:01, Dave F. dave...@madasafish.com mailto:dave...@madasafish.com wrote:

Re: [Talk-GB] 10 fascinating facts about OSM OSGB

2013-04-18 Thread Oliver Jowett
On Thu, Apr 18, 2013 at 4:57 PM, Chris Hill o...@raggedred.net wrote: I followed the guidelines in the wiki [1] That seems to boil down to don't modify naptan: tags except naptan:verified, so hopefully we won't have to worry about conflicts between import updates and manual changes there. Not

[Talk-GB] Neighbourhood Planning - data import proposal

2013-04-18 Thread stephen.pete...@sky.com
Hi all Comments please on my proposal to upload new data about Neighbourhood Planning Areas in England.  This will involve re-using parish and electoral ward boundaries across the country. Proposal is here -  http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Neighbourhood_Planning_data_loading_proposal 

[Talk-GB] Updating Imports (Was: 10 fascinating facts...)

2013-04-18 Thread Rob Nickerson
Hi, The issue of how to update imports is an important one. For this years SotM (in Birmingham, September) we have a theme of Change, with one of these areas of change being how do we go from being map data creators to map data maintainers. I would love to see ideas put forward for this in the

Re: [Talk-GB] 10 fascinating facts about OSM OSGB

2013-04-18 Thread Chris Hill
On 18/04/13 18:12, Oliver Jowett wrote: On Thu, Apr 18, 2013 at 4:57 PM, Chris Hill o...@raggedred.net mailto:o...@raggedred.net wrote: I followed the guidelines in the wiki [1] That seems to boil down to don't modify naptan: tags except naptan:verified, so hopefully we won't have to

Re: [Talk-GB] 10 fascinating facts about OSM OSGB

2013-04-18 Thread Oliver Jowett
On Thu, Apr 18, 2013 at 7:15 PM, Chris Hill o...@raggedred.net wrote: On 18/04/13 18:12, Oliver Jowett wrote: On Thu, Apr 18, 2013 at 4:57 PM, Chris Hill o...@raggedred.net mailto: o...@raggedred.net wrote: I followed the guidelines in the wiki [1] That seems to boil down to don't

Re: [Talk-GB] 10 fascinating facts about OSM OSGB

2013-04-18 Thread Rob Nickerson
I would not, therefore, support updating OSM with another NaPTAN import in my local area. Agreed that a blanket import would be a poor option, but surely a tool that would show comparisons between the new NaPTAN data and OSM data would be useful? Or perhaps a comparison between the old and new

Re: [Talk-GB] 10 fascinating facts about OSM OSGB

2013-04-18 Thread Oliver Jowett
On Thu, Apr 18, 2013 at 7:50 PM, Rob Nickerson rob.j.nicker...@gmail.comwrote: Or perhaps a comparison between the old and new NaPTAN data would be better? Do we have the old data around? (I'm not clear whether all the original imports were from one dataset, or several over time) Oliver

Re: [Talk-GB] 10 fascinating facts about OSM OSGB

2013-04-18 Thread Rob Nickerson
Maybe we should be advising that for all imports the original files are kept somewhere safe. Rob On 18 April 2013 19:57, Oliver Jowett oliver.jow...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Apr 18, 2013 at 7:50 PM, Rob Nickerson rob.j.nicker...@gmail.comwrote: Or perhaps a comparison between the old and

Re: [Talk-GB] Neighbourhood Planning - data import proposal

2013-04-18 Thread Dudley Ibbett
Hi Steve It would be good to know how this would impact practically. There are Parish boundaries are on the map locally and we are developing a Neighbourhood Plan that covers two Parishes. Would this be a relation joining the PCs that form the NPA with the additional tags you are suggesting

Re: [Talk-GB] Neighbourhood Planning - data import proposal

2013-04-18 Thread SomeoneElse
stephen.pete...@sky.com wrote: Comments please on my proposal to upload new data about Neighbourhood Planning Areas in England. This will involve re-using parish and electoral ward boundaries across the country. First, perhaps you could explain the steps that you took to follow the