Re: [Talk-gb-westmidlands] [Talk-GB] UK Postcodes - Potential data source

2012-08-31 Thread Brian Prangle
I'd agree with Rob's logic and extend it to show one of three results: postcode missing or postcode incomplete or postcode incorrect. We have loads of addresses with only the first group in place e.g B27 and I'm sure when we were using codepoint( before we knew it was dodgy in licensing terms) we

Re: [Talk-gb-westmidlands] [Talk-GB] UK Postcodes - Potential data source

2012-08-31 Thread Andy Robinson
In the meantime I'm just downloading the files and filtering in spreadsheet for my patch (Sutton Coldfield) and then checking/adding postcode data for the handful of addresses it contains for each month. Though this only really works if you have the majority of your building addressing done for an

Re: [Talk-gb-westmidlands] [Talk-GB] UK Postcodes - Potential data source

2012-08-31 Thread Big Fat Frog
Have I missed something? What datasource are you referring to here? Jonathan On 31/08/2012 09:44, Andy Robinson wrote: In the meantime I’m just downloading the files and filtering in spreadsheet for my patch (Sutton Coldfield) and then checking/adding postcode data for the handful of

Re: [Talk-gb-westmidlands] [Talk-GB] UK Postcodes - Potential data source

2012-08-31 Thread Andy Robinson
http://www.landregistry.gov.uk/public/information/public-data/price-paid-dat a -Original Message- From: Big Fat Frog [mailto:bigfatfro...@gmail.com] Sent: 31 August 2012 10:11 To: talk-gb-westmidlands@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [Talk-gb-westmidlands] [Talk-GB] UK Postcodes -

Re: [Talk-gb-westmidlands] [Talk-GB] UK Postcodes - Potential data source

2012-08-31 Thread Andrew Mackenzie
Hi all there is another approach, which is to download the data for all companies in the UK from Companies House. This became available as free public data in July. The full address and postcode is there along with a URI (not the same as the company number). I prefer this approach to private

Re: [Talk-gb-westmidlands] [Talk-GB] UK Postcodes - Potential data source

2012-08-31 Thread Ed Loach
I’ve just downloaded this. It looks like it contains Registered Office address which isn’t necessarily the same as the business (trading) address – for example where I used to work in Pattingham used to have a registered office in Dudley (the accountants address, I understand), and having just

Re: [Talk-gb-westmidlands] UK Postcodes - Potential data source

2012-08-31 Thread Matt Williams
On 31 August 2012 12:26, Rob Nickerson rob.j.nicker...@gmail.com wrote: The other problem with the Companies House data is that there is no clear statement of the licence other than free. Come on CH please be more specific! Indeed. It looks like it could be another quite useful source of

Re: [Talk-gb-westmidlands] UK Postcodes - Potential data source

2012-08-31 Thread Andrew Mackenzie
Hi all The reply I have from Companies House about the license and re-use below. I have said we take the key clause to be Companies House imposes no rules or requirements on how the information on the public register is used. but that it lacks clarity and - should be posted on the download or

Re: [Talk-gb-westmidlands] UK Postcodes - Potential data source

2012-08-31 Thread Rob Nickerson
I think that translates to Public Domain Dedication and License (PDDL) then? On 31 August 2012 16:38, Andrew Mackenzie a.macken...@bethere.co.uk wrote: Hi all The reply I have from Companies House about the license and re-use below. I have said we take the key clause to be Companies House

Re: [Talk-gb-westmidlands] UK Postcodes - Potential data source

2012-08-31 Thread Matt Williams
On 31 August 2012 16:50, Rob Nickerson rob.j.nicker...@gmail.com wrote: I think that translates to Public Domain Dedication and License (PDDL) then? Probably, but I wouldn't feel comfortable using the data without an explicit set of license terms. Unless they have done and I just don't

Re: [Talk-gb-westmidlands] UK Postcodes - Potential data source

2012-08-31 Thread Andy Robinson
Not everyone considers a licence of any sort a requirement. It's just us that expects one or argues otherwise it might be public domain. I recall when I first came to OSM not understanding why a licence was required at all (because I'm used to contracts where the terms are explicit and OSM does