[Talk-transit] Announcement re new 'moderation' email list to develop effective responses to vandalism and mistakes

2009-09-28 Per discussione Peter Miller
A new 'moderation' email list[1] has been created to help develop effective responses to vandalism and mistakes. To avoid spam subscriber's the first posts will be moderated so don't expect them to appear immediately. Subsequent posts will not be moderated. [1]

Re: [Talk-transit] Relations for stop areas in NaPTAN

2009-09-28 Per discussione Frankie Roberto
Jerry wrote: I've just noticed that the relations for stop places generated in the NaPTAN import do not have a type. I just happened to be browsing through some KeepRight issues and noticed a number of relation without type ones. I think the consensus is that these should become type=site.

Re: [Talk-transit] Relations for stop areas in NaPTAN

2009-09-28 Per discussione Peter Miller
On 28 Sep 2009, at 14:58, Frankie Roberto wrote: Jerry wrote: I've just noticed that the relations for stop places generated in the NaPTAN import do not have a type. I just happened to be browsing through some KeepRight issues and noticed a number of relation without type ones. I

Re: [Talk-transit] Relations for stop areas in NaPTAN

2009-09-28 Per discussione Thomas Wood
2009/9/28 Jerry Clough - OSM sk53_...@yahoo.co.uk: I've just noticed that the relations for stop places generated in the NaPTAN import do not have a type. I just happened to be browsing through some KeepRight issues and noticed a number of relation without type ones. I'm sure its unimportant

Re: [Talk-transit] Relations for stop areas in NaPTAN

2009-09-28 Per discussione Claudius Henrichs
Am 28.09.2009 15:05, Peter Miller: On 28 Sep 2009, at 13:44, Jerry Clough - OSM wrote: I've just noticed that the relations for stop places generated in the NaPTAN import do not have a type. I just happened to be browsing through some KeepRight issues and noticed a number of relation

Re: [Talk-transit] Relations for stop areas in NaPTAN

2009-09-28 Per discussione Claudius Henrichs
Am 28.09.2009 17:10, Frankie Roberto: 2009/9/28 Thomas Wood grand.edgemas...@gmail.com mailto:grand.edgemas...@gmail.com I think the type=* tag on relations is ugly, similar to the original class=* tag proposed on every element in the early days of OSM. class=* was dropped, as

[talk-ph] To save the electronic items.

2009-09-28 Per discussione Michael Cole
First thing is if you cannot do anything with them straight away place into a bucket of clean water and leave there. The cleaner the better. Next is to dry them off. If you can safely remove the case do so and let drain. If you can get alcohol pour over the device, It can damage some plastics

[talk-ph] Fwd: [waypointsdotph] Red Cross Needs your help

2009-09-28 Per discussione Ed Garcia
message sent to waypointsdotph ... forwarding it to you guys as maybe even if you can not get the coordinates via GPS, if you know of such evacuation centers, maybe you can approximate the coordinates from maps or from our own OSM data. ed -- Forwarded message -- From:

Re: [talk-ph] [waypointsdotph] Re: Tropical Storm Ondoy: are you guys ok?

2009-09-28 Per discussione maning sambale
Hi, We're OK. Other's are not so lucky but our family and immediate relatives are safe. The water was so fast you don't have time to panic. Thankfully the whole family was safe. I went around just this morning to look at the extent of the damage. I went to Ed's house (indescribable).

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] New license status

2009-09-28 Per discussione Jukka Rahkonen
Mike Collinson m...@... writes: Here is a quick report from the License Working Group as we have been rather quiet.Since the proposal we made to the OSMF board in August and at SOTM 2009, we have been working on a number of small issues raised but now getting on track to make our final formal

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Grant for usage of a google mapmaper users data to me

2009-09-28 Per discussione Erik Johansson
On Sun, Sep 27, 2009 at 7:44 PM, jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com wrote: Will you react calmly if Google send messages to every OSM contributor asking them to dual-license their data? Only if you can honestly answer yes should you proceed. HI there, I would never

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] New license status

2009-09-28 Per discussione Martin Koppenhoefer
2009/9/28 Jukka Rahkonen jukka.rahko...@mmmtike.fi: Mike Collinson m...@... writes: Article 10 Term of protection 1. The right provided for in Article 7 shall run from the date of completion of the making of the database. It shall expire fifteen years from the first of January of the year

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] New license status

2009-09-28 Per discussione Gustav Foseid
On Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 12:46 PM, Jukka Rahkonen jukka.rahko...@mmmtike.fiwrote: Will all contents of OSM year 2009 database be in public domain first of January, 2025? The database directive gives 15 years of protection for a dump of a database. As long as the database is updated, the

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] New license status

2009-09-28 Per discussione Iván Sánchez Ortega
El Lunes, 28 de Septiembre de 2009, Gustav Foseid escribió: On Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 12:46 PM, Jukka Rahkonen jukka.rahko...@mmmtike.fiwrote: Will all contents of OSM year 2009 database be in public domain first of January, 2025? The database directive gives 15 years of protection for a

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] New license status

2009-09-28 Per discussione Martin Koppenhoefer
2009/9/28 Gustav Foseid gust...@gmail.com: 2009/9/28 Iván Sánchez Ortega i...@sanchezortega.es Better? :-) :-) does this mean yes? What is the situation with planned Odbl? cheers, Martin ___ legal-talk mailing list legal-talk@openstreetmap.org

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Grant for usage of a google mapmaper users data to me

2009-09-28 Per discussione jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com
On Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 5:57 PM, Chris Fleming m...@chrisfleming.org wrote: I'm not sure what you're going to achieve here. You can't use there POI's directly as they will have probably been derived from google's aerial imagery. If you are planning on visiting the places anyway then just go on

Re: [OSM-talk] Bot removing attribution tags

2009-09-28 Per discussione edodd
2009/9/28 Lester Caine les...@lsces.co.uk: And this seems to be the case here? The problem is the ways are the best place to tag the ABS information, and the ABS data just happens to follow rivers, islands, railways and roads and so on which is very useful where people can't survey and

Re: [OSM-talk] address interpolation

2009-09-28 Per discussione David Earl
On 28 Sep 2009, at 05:22, Marcus Wolschon mar...@wolschon.biz wrote: On Sun, Sep 27, 2009 at 7:33 PM, David Earl da...@frankieandshadow.com wrote: I'm experimenting with adding house numbering for the first time (and using the address interpolation plugin). One common case I came across

Re: [OSM-talk] Breach of Copyright?

2009-09-28 Per discussione Nick Whitelegg
Incidentally, as well as the possible OS contamination, the Council will itself have database and content copyright in the data, so explicit permission would be needed from them to incorporate and release it under our CCBySA license. In obtaining that permission you could ask them to assert

Re: [OSM-talk] Breach of Copyright?

2009-09-28 Per discussione David Earl
On 28/09/2009 08:53, Nick Whitelegg wrote: Incidentally, as well as the possible OS contamination, the Council will itself have database and content copyright in the data, so explicit permission would be needed from them to incorporate and release it under our CCBySA license. In obtaining

Re: [OSM-talk] address interpolation

2009-09-28 Per discussione David Earl
What plugin are you talking about? The AdvancedAddressDB of Traveling Salesman? Sorry, the AddrInterpolation plugin in JOSM. http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/JOSM/Plugins/AddrInterpolation which doesn't allow you to put just a number in the starting # field when numbering scheme is set to

Re: [OSM-talk] Own aerial photos

2009-09-28 Per discussione paul youlten
Alpo Hassinen's site also links to http://www.smartplanes.se/ http://www.smartplanes.se/applications_e.html (in English) It isn't exactly clear how they make their mosaics - the white paper says The image data of a flight mission can be further processed using the PAMS Internet service to derive

Re: [OSM-talk] The French Corine Import has started

2009-09-28 Per discussione Marc Schütz
I am sending a quick message to mention that the French import of Corine has started. We created an user for the occasion: http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/CLCF06 ... Shouldn't the attribution (source) go into the changeset? I don't know what the current consensus about this is. AFAIK a

Re: [OSM-talk] The French Corine Import has started

2009-09-28 Per discussione Frederik Ramm
Hi, Marc Schütz wrote: I am sending a quick message to mention that the French import of Corine has started. We created an user for the occasion: http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/CLCF06 Shouldn't the attribution (source) go into the changeset? I don't know what the current consensus

Re: [OSM-talk] Breach of Copyright?

2009-09-28 Per discussione Chris Hill
David Earl wrote: On 28/09/2009 08:53, Nick Whitelegg wrote: Incidentally, as well as the possible OS contamination, the Council will itself have database and content copyright in the data, so explicit permission would be needed from them to incorporate and release it under our CCBySA

Re: [OSM-talk] The French Corine Import has started

2009-09-28 Per discussione Pieren
On Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 11:03 AM, Marc Schütz schue...@gmx.net wrote: Shouldn't the attribution (source) go into the changeset? I don't know what the current consensus about this is. AFAIK a bot is removing these things from the TIGER data in the US right now. Regards, Marc I would like

Re: [OSM-talk] The French Corine Import has started

2009-09-28 Per discussione Frederik Ramm
Hi, Pieren wrote: I would like too. But if we move the attribution (which is a legal statement we must insert) into the changesets, it disappears in the exports and planet dumps. It will disappear from there anyway as soon as somebody modifies the way. Bye Frederik

Re: [OSM-talk] The French Corine Import has started

2009-09-28 Per discussione Pieren
On Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 12:39 PM, Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org wrote: It will disappear from there anyway as soon as somebody modifies the way. Bye Hi Frederik Yes, I know. And I would say it is normal if the original landuse is improved by local survey. It is not if the landuse polygon

Re: [OSM-talk] How to tag dead-ends and how to distinguish them from incomplete ways

2009-09-28 Per discussione Dave F.
ed...@billiau.net wrote: You see, this is where I get /really /confused I see no reference to 'todo' or 'continue' in the general OSM wiki. In the Groundtruth wiki page they're highlighted red, saying there there no reference page. I'm repeatedly told don't tag for the renderers Yet it

Re: [OSM-talk] Breach of Copyright?

2009-09-28 Per discussione Richard Fairhurst
Nick Whitelegg wrote: One council (West Sussex) referred to its data as public domain when I last looked. I'd guess that's the same for all councils. Bear in mind that public domain meaning free of copyright is a US term. The traditional UK meaning is quite different. In the UK, if you say

Re: [OSM-talk] How to tag dead-ends and how to distinguish them from incomplete ways

2009-09-28 Per discussione John Smith
2009/9/28 Dave F. dave...@madasafish.com: The database on its own is useless. It needs to be represented in some manner such as a visual map. To tag randomly ie 'tag whatever you want let the renderers sort it out' seems illogical counter productive. It's more of a case of converting the

Re: [OSM-talk] address interpolation

2009-09-28 Per discussione Jochen Topf
On Sun, Sep 27, 2009 at 06:33:25PM +0100, David Earl wrote: I'm experimenting with adding house numbering for the first time (and using the address interpolation plugin). One common case I came across was 25, 25A, 25B, ... I wonder whether addr:interpolation=alphabetic could include this

Re: [OSM-talk] How to tag dead-ends and how to distinguish them from incomplete ways

2009-09-28 Per discussione Dave F.
John Smith wrote: 2009/9/28 Dave F. dave...@madasafish.com: The database on its own is useless. It needs to be represented in some manner such as a visual map. To tag randomly ie 'tag whatever you want let the renderers sort it out' seems illogical counter productive. It's more

Re: [OSM-talk] Breach of Copyright?

2009-09-28 Per discussione Nick Whitelegg
Bear in mind that public domain meaning free of copyright is a US term. The traditional UK meaning is quite different. In the UK, if you say the map is now in the public domain, that means that the map is now available to the public - i.e. it's not solely an internal publication. It does not

Re: [OSM-talk] How to tag dead-ends and how to distinguish them from incomplete ways

2009-09-28 Per discussione John Smith
2009/9/28 Dave F. dave...@madasafish.com: I'm not saying we should bend over backwards in our tagging to ensure it will immediately render in all the different rendering flavours, but to tag without /any/ consideration for multitude of uses OSM could be used for is, I think, lazy, selfish

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] New license status

2009-09-28 Per discussione Iván Sánchez Ortega
El Lunes, 28 de Septiembre de 2009, Gustav Foseid escribió: 2009/9/28 Iván Sánchez Ortega i...@sanchezortega.es The database directive gives 15 years of protection for a dump of a database. As long as the database is updated, the protection period will be continously renewed.

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Grant for usage of a google mapmaper users data to me

2009-09-28 Per discussione jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com
OSM is the one project where kosovo is ahead of serbia. We have now 6-8 GPS devices on the ground and a motivated team. we are using yahoosat and training mappers. We are importing GNS features and other things. I dont know about the GMM people, but they dont seem to me informed about anything. I

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] New license status

2009-09-28 Per discussione Gustav Foseid
2009/9/28 Iván Sánchez Ortega i...@sanchezortega.es Better? :-) :-) - Gustav ___ legal-talk mailing list legal-t...@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/legal-talk

[OSM-talk] Announcement re new 'moderation' email list to develop effective responses to vandalism and mistakes

2009-09-28 Per discussione Peter Miller
A new 'moderation' email list[1] has been created to help develop effective responses to vandalism and mistakes. To avoid spam subscriber's the first posts will be moderated so don't expect them to appear immediately. Subsequent posts will not be moderated. [1]

Re: [OSM-talk] How to tag dead-ends and how to distinguish them from incomplete ways

2009-09-28 Per discussione Dave F.
John Smith wrote: 2009/9/28 Dave F. dave...@madasafish.com: I'm not saying we should bend over backwards in our tagging to ensure it will immediately render in all the different rendering flavours, but to tag without /any/ consideration for multitude of uses OSM could be used for is, I

Re: [OSM-talk] Help from Tourist office?

2009-09-28 Per discussione Paul Houle
Dave F. wrote: Iván Sánchez Ortega wrote: (Which is a pretty stupid thing, given that tourists ought to know all the local web portals when preparing a trip, instead of going to e.g. OSM or Wikitravel) I dunno. That kind of site is usually a site for sore eyes. If they've got

Re: [OSM-talk] Field boundaries

2009-09-28 Per discussione Mark Williams
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 courtland.yoc...@mindspring.com wrote: I've been thinking a bit about this from a very different perspective - that of parks and other open public areas where you might not have a chance to walk the perimeter ... for instance, you've a dog who

Re: [OSM-talk] Help from Tourist office?

2009-09-28 Per discussione John Smith
2009/9/29 Paul Houle p...@ontology2.com:    In a lot of places the Tourist Office is actually (or practically) a cooperative sponsored by certain businesses,  generally the larger and more expensive ones.  This is true of restaurants as much as it is of hotels. In regional parts of Australia

Re: [OSM-talk] Field boundaries

2009-09-28 Per discussione Peter Childs
2009/9/28 Mark Williams mark@blueyonder.co.uk: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 courtland.yoc...@mindspring.com wrote: I've been thinking a bit about this from a very different perspective - that of parks and other open public areas where you might not have a chance to

Re: [OSM-talk] Help from Tourist office?

2009-09-28 Per discussione Iván Sánchez Ortega
El Lunes, 28 de Septiembre de 2009, Paul Houle escribió: [...] If they've got the attitude that we want our site to be the only source of information about our area it means that they don't get the web and that the site isn't going to be a good source of information. No, it doesn't mean

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Grant for usage of a google mapmaper users data to me

2009-09-28 Per discussione Chris Fleming
On 28/09/09 14:29, jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com wrote: is the one project where kosovo is ahead of serbia. We have now 6-8 GPS devices on the ground and a motivated team. we are using yahoosat and training mappers. We are importing GNS features and other things. I dont know about the GMM

Re: [OSM-talk] walking-papers.org is dead?

2009-09-28 Per discussione ouɐɯnH
On Sat, Sep 26, 2009 at 12:33 PM, Michal Migurski m...@stamen.com wrote: Eep. I'm not sure what happened there - it looked like it was working correctly, and didn't send me the SMS that it's supposed to when it goes down, yet it was busted. Tanks , working fine salu2 humano I've given the

Re: [OSM-talk] The French Corine Import has started

2009-09-28 Per discussione Ruben Wisniewski
I think the user speaks for itself, you can look at the history if you want to know where the data came from. But I think there should be a tag like on the tiger data which indicates if the data was reviewed locally, to prove it is valid. Regards, Ruben Marc Schütz wrote: I am sending a quick

Re: [OSM-talk] The French Corine Import has started

2009-09-28 Per discussione Apollinaris Schoell
On 28 Sep 2009, at 10:06 , Ruben Wisniewski wrote: I think the user speaks for itself, you can look at the history if you want to know where the data came from. But I think there should be a tag like on the tiger data which indicates if the data was reviewed locally, to prove it is

Re: [OSM-talk] Breach of Copyright?

2009-09-28 Per discussione Mike Harris
... Except from definitive maps based on OS mapping that is more than 50 years old (see my earlier message) - and I suspect that quite a lot of it is. Mike Harris -Original Message- From: Nick Whitelegg [mailto:nick.whitel...@solent.ac.uk] Sent: 28 September 2009 14:23 To:

[OSM-talk] [tagging] Feature Proposal - landuse=orchard

2009-09-28 Per discussione Pieren
Hi all, This is not my proposal but this tag is used by the Corine Land Cover current import in France corresponding to the class 2.2.2 of this european program (Agricultural areas - Permanent crops - Fruit trees and berry plantations). I would like to push this for improvements and a proper

[OSM-talk] Flickr Now Supports OSM Tags

2009-09-28 Per discussione Ian Dees
http://www.readwriteweb.com/archives/flickr_now_supports_openstreetmap_tags.php Good to see someone else talking about OSM... ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] Flickr Now Supports OSM Tags

2009-09-28 Per discussione Jack Stringer
Here is the Flickr blog post http://code.flickr.com/blog/2009/09/28/thats-maybe-a-bit-too-dorky-even-for-us/ Jack Stringer ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] Flickr Now Supports OSM Tags

2009-09-28 Per discussione Dave F.
Ian Dees wrote: http://www.readwriteweb.com/archives/flickr_now_supports_openstreetmap_tags.php Good to see someone else talking about OSM... Excellent news ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org

Re: [OSM-talk] Announcement re new 'moderation' email list to develop effective responses to vandalism and mistakes

2009-09-28 Per discussione Dave F.
Dave F. wrote: Hi Peter A couple of questions - Is there a need for a separate list? Isn't here good enough for discussion? to start the ball rolling: What is vandalism? Since I've been here (admittedly not that long) I've heard a view cries of Vandal, that turn out, on closer

Re: [OSM-talk] Announcement re new 'moderation' email list to develop effective responses to vandalism and mistakes

2009-09-28 Per discussione SteveC
On 28 Sep 2009, at 06:33, Peter Miller wrote: To avoid spam subscriber's the first posts will be moderated so don't expect them to appear immediately. Subsequent posts will not be moderated. How... recursive! :-) Yours c. Steve ___ talk

Re: [OSM-talk] Breach of Copyright?

2009-09-28 Per discussione edodd
Coincidentally I have just had a meeting with someone from one of the local councils who is interested in using OSM data for their online services. I brought up this issue and he explicitly said that the coordinates of the footpaths on the definitive map were derived from Ordnance Survey

Re: [OSM-talk] The OpenStreetMap website is now translatable at Translatewiki

2009-09-28 Per discussione Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
On Tue, Sep 22, 2009 at 11:13 PM, Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason ava...@gmail.com wrote: These translations aren't automatically being synced back to the OpenStreetMap SVN repository yet. Me and Nikerabbit have been fixing bugs in the import/export process required to make this happen. Those bugs

Re: [OSM-talk] Flickr Now Supports OSM Tags

2009-09-28 Per discussione Iván Sánchez Ortega
El Lunes, 28 de Septiembre de 2009, Ian Dees escribió: http://www.readwriteweb.com/archives/flickr_now_supports_openstreetmap_tags .php Good to see someone else talking about OSM... Oh my, this is all kinds of awesome. I know several paleo-geographers that are into the semantic web thingie...

[OSM-talk] How *NOT* to map

2009-09-28 Per discussione David Paleino
http://osm.org/go/xZaERTJSm-- Please, don't. David (getting mad at how ridiculously is Palermo (Italy) mapped.) -- . ''`. Debian maintainer | http://wiki.debian.org/DavidPaleino : :' : Linuxer #334216 --|-- http://www.hanskalabs.net/ `. `'` GPG: 1392B174 |

Re: [OSM-talk] How *NOT* to map

2009-09-28 Per discussione David Paleino
David Paleino wrote: http://osm.org/go/xZaERTJSm-- Ah, I forgot also this one: http://osm.org/go/xZYvzIcHP-- NOT THE WAY TO DO IT! /me will need some time to fix the whole city :( -- . ''`. Debian maintainer | http://wiki.debian.org/DavidPaleino : :' : Linuxer #334216 --|--

Re: [OSM-talk] Flickr Now Supports OSM Tags

2009-09-28 Per discussione Eugene Alvin Villar
The big problem I see is that our node, way, and relation IDs are too brittle for this sort of thing. A POI node might eventually get replaced with a closed-way building. Or a way will get split into two (and those two ways get completely new IDs) or two ways will be merged (with the new way not

Re: [OSM-talk] Flickr Now Supports OSM Tags

2009-09-28 Per discussione Iván Sánchez Ortega
El Martes, 29 de Septiembre de 2009, Eugene Alvin Villar escribió: The big problem I see is that our node, way, and relation IDs are too brittle for this sort of thing. I see that as premature optimisation. And the rule of thumb for premature optimisation is don't. If there is a problem with

Re: [OSM-talk] Breach of Copyright?

2009-09-28 Per discussione Russ Nelson
Richard Fairhurst writes: Nick Whitelegg wrote: One council (West Sussex) referred to its data as public domain when I last looked. I'd guess that's the same for all councils. Bear in mind that public domain meaning free of copyright is a US term. The traditional UK meaning is

Re: [OSM-talk] Flickr Now Supports OSM Tags

2009-09-28 Per discussione Ian Dees
Perhaps we should write a WoEID [0] - OSM ID mapping. The mapping would watch the minutely changes and update the mapping if a node or way changes. [0] http://geobloggers.com/2008/05/12/yahoo-woe-where-on-earth-that-is-ids/ On Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 7:53 PM, Eugene Alvin Villar

Re: [OSM-talk] Flickr Now Supports OSM Tags

2009-09-28 Per discussione andrzej zaborowski
2009/9/29 Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.com: The big problem I see is that our node, way, and relation IDs are too brittle for this sort of thing. A POI node might eventually get replaced with a closed-way building. Or a way will get split into two (and those two ways get completely new

Re: [OSM-talk] Flickr Now Supports OSM Tags

2009-09-28 Per discussione Dave F.
Iván Sánchez Ortega wrote: It's just way too soon to foresee what problems may arise, and even more to put preemptive measures up. Some might say that a little forward planning might alleviate future problems. ___ talk mailing list

Re: [OSM-talk] Breach of Copyright?

2009-09-28 Per discussione John Smith
2009/9/29 Russ Nelson nel...@crynwr.com: Richard Fairhurst writes:   Nick Whitelegg wrote:   One council (West Sussex) referred to its data as public domain   when I last looked. I'd guess that's the same for all councils.     Bear in mind that public domain meaning free of copyright is a

Re: [OSM-talk] Breach of Copyright?

2009-09-28 Per discussione Dave F.
Russ Nelson wrote: Lawds, I wish the English could speak English. Who decided it would be a good idea to fork off American into a whole 'nother language? Many believe the American version is closer to the original. We in the UK then went added extra letters to certain words jut to show

Re: [OSM-talk] Flickr Now Supports OSM Tags

2009-09-28 Per discussione Sam Vekemans
It's great to see that flickr 'Get's it'. Sharing is a good thing :) Now we just need to make a plug-in with JOSM so that as your photo-mapping, you can load your photos to flickr (or any other site). Or is that already done? (so all the images are available to everyone) If so, I think that

Re: [OSM-talk] [talk-ph] [waypointsdotph] Re: Tropical Storm Ondoy: are you guys ok?

2009-09-28 Per discussione maning sambale
Hi, We're OK. Other's are not so lucky but our family and immediate relatives are safe. The water was so fast you don't have time to panic. Thankfully the whole family was safe. I went around just this morning to look at the extent of the damage. I went to Ed's house (indescribable).

[OSM-talk-nl] OSM op T-Dose

2009-09-28 Per discussione Henk Hoff
Aankomend weekend vindt de jaarlijkse T-Dose plaats in Eindhoven. T-DOSE is a free and yearly event held in The Netherlands to promote use and development of Open Source Software. Er is een presentatie van OpenStreetMap op de zondag. Daarnaast is er een presentatiestand voor OpenStreetMap

Re: [OSM-talk-nl] OSM op T-Dose

2009-09-28 Per discussione Christ van Willegen
2009/9/28 Henk Hoff h...@toffehoff.nl: Aankomend weekend vindt de jaarlijkse T-Dose plaats in Eindhoven. T-DOSE is a free and yearly event held in The Netherlands to promote use and development of Open Source Software. Henk (en anderen...) Een collega van mij is vanmiddag naar een bedrijf toe

Re: [OSM-talk-nl] OSM op T-Dose

2009-09-28 Per discussione Stefan de Konink
Ik hoorde ervandaag over bij Falk, echter ik vond het wel goed klinken. Gezamelijke repo van Live OV data. Het zelfde idee als dat nationale database warehouse voor file info. ...beetje jammer alleen dat ze er twee jaar over moeten doen. Protocol gaat 'bizon' heten. Stefan Op 28 sep 2009

Re: [OSM-talk-nl] OSM op T-Dose

2009-09-28 Per discussione Christ van Willegen
Was dat in Utrecht? Dan was mijn collega Alex daar ook... Bizon is een partij die allerlei OV-koppelingen bedenkt en vastlegt. Christ van Willegen On 9/28/09, Stefan de Konink ste...@konink.de wrote: Ik hoorde ervandaag over bij Falk, echter ik vond het wel goed klinken. Gezamelijke repo van

Re: [OSM-talk-nl] OSM op T-Dose

2009-09-28 Per discussione Stefan de Konink
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Christ van Willegen schreef: Was dat in Utrecht? Nee bij de 'darkside' in Eindhoven. Daar is een soort Deathstar met overal lijntjes naar toe. Bizon is een partij die allerlei OV-koppelingen bedenkt en vastlegt. Alles om onder 9292ov uit te

Re: [talk-au] Our own satellite imagery?

2009-09-28 Per discussione John Smith
2009/9/28 Ross Scanlon i...@4x4falcon.com: I like it. Use the autopilot from here: http://paparazzi.enac.fr/wiki/Main_Page The wired editor also has a site up that sells autopilot kit: http://www.diydrones.com/profiles/blogs/ardupilot-main-page with one of these:

Re: [talk-au] ABS Data (was Re: More on the survey tag)

2009-09-28 Per discussione James Livingston
On 27/09/2009, at 4:37 PM, John Smith wrote: I came across a perfect example of how good and bad the PGS data can be at the same time and when it makes sense to use both PGS and ABS data to make a better coast line: http://sautter.com/map/?zoom=13lat=-23.75251lon=151.26423layers=0BTF

Re: [talk-au] ABS Data (was Re: More on the survey tag)

2009-09-28 Per discussione John Smith
2009/9/28 James Livingston doc...@mac.com: I assume people have been doing the same along various bits of the mainland too. A lot of the time the ABS data seems as good if not better than the PGS data, for the times they vary wild I do what you suggested and check sat imagery, however for the

Re: [talk-au] More on the survey tag

2009-09-28 Per discussione John Smith
2009/9/28 Mark Pulley mrpul...@lizzy.com.au: As well as gps/GPS being missing, it's interesting that Yahoo is missing from the Map Features page. Yahoo could be listed both as a source and an attributation, but everyone else lists it as a source so it's a go with the flow sort of thing. When

Re: [talk-au] New CC-BY datasets due Monday 28 September on Government 2.0 Taskforce website

2009-09-28 Per discussione John Smith
Does anyone know what ended up getting released yesterday, if it's available yet, or when it's likely to be? ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au

Re: [talk-au] ABS Data (was Re: More on the survey tag)

2009-09-28 Per discussione John Smith
I'm adding in postcode 4800 and ABS boundaries just seem to stop for no reason as if they've been deleted, there is also untagged nodes that may have been a way or something, located at: -20.3732, 148.2629 Does anyone know what these are/were for certain?

Re: [talk-au] ABS Data (was Re: More on the survey tag)

2009-09-28 Per discussione John Smith
Maybe look to the right of that point there is a bunch of untagged ways near a stream On 29/09/2009 12:54 PM, Ross Scanlon i...@4x4falcon.com wrote: On Tue, 29 Sep 2009 12:08:08 +1000 John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com wrote: I'm adding in po... Just looking at the node at the above lat/long

Re: [talk-au] ABS Data (was Re: More on the survey tag)

2009-09-28 Per discussione John Smith
On Tuesday, September 29, 2009, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com wrote: Maybe look to the right of that point there is a bunch of untagged ways near a stream I meant untagged nodes not ways ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org

Re: [talk-au] ABS Data (was Re: More on the survey tag)

2009-09-28 Per discussione John Smith
2009/9/29 Ross Scanlon i...@4x4falcon.com: On Tue, 29 Sep 2009 12:08:08 +1000 John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com wrote: I'm adding in postcode 4800 and ABS boundaries just seem to stop for no reason as if they've been deleted, there is also untagged nodes that may have been a way or

Re: [talk-au] ABS Data (was Re: More on the survey tag)

2009-09-28 Per discussione John Smith
Take this ABS boundary as an example: http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/32259741 It's not connected to any other ABS boundaries, either the surrounding boundaries have been deleted, which I'm not entirely sure how I can find out what happened.

Re: [talk-au] ABS Data (was Re: More on the survey tag)

2009-09-28 Per discussione John Smith
2009/9/29 John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com: Take this ABS boundary as an example: http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/32259741 It's not connected to any other ABS boundaries, either the surrounding boundaries have been deleted, which I'm not entirely sure how I can find out what

[Talk-br] Dúvidas sobre fronteiras que desaparecem

2009-09-28 Per discussione Rodrigo de Avila
Olá, tenho uma dúvida, mas não sei pra quem exatamente perguntar... Quando eu faço o download de uma área, pra editar no JOSM, as fronteiras importadas do IBGE aparecem todas certinhas. A URL que uso pra fazer o download está em [1], e um screenshot do JOSM com as fronteiras está em [2]. Mas,

Re: [Talk-br] Dúvidas sobre fronteiras que desaparec em

2009-09-28 Per discussione Junior, Claudomiro
Rodrigo, Acho que a fonte do problema é a mesma que acometeu a renderização do mapnik. Ou seja, problema na replicação incremental dos dados via arquivos diff (minute-diffs) Podemos entrar em contato como o developer da ferramenta para ver se é possível copiar manualmente do banco principal

Re: [Talk-br] Dúvidas sobre fronteiras que desaparec em

2009-09-28 Per discussione Rodrigo de Avila
Junior, Claudomiro escreveu: Acho que a fonte do problema é a mesma que acometeu a renderização do mapnik. Ou seja, problema na replicação incremental dos dados via arquivos diff (minute-diffs) Tens razão... olhando o arquivo baixado, as fronteiras do Brasil com o Uruguai também não

[Talk-br] limite internacional CIA - IBGE

2009-09-28 Per discussione Daniel Meyer Do Santos
Ola! Sou Daniel, colaboro muito no OSM da Argentina. Hoje vi o limite internacional entre Argentina e Río Grande do Sul do IBGE que importou Claudomiro. Estou fascinado como a cualidade dos dados. Comparando com o Yahoo é tao bom que estou pensando se a gente nao deve cancelar ou jogar fora o

Re: [Talk-de] Straßennamen und Stadtteilanzeigen .... nach mkgmap-Update ?

2009-09-28 Per discussione Dirk-Lüder Kreie
Jan Tappenbeck schrieb: Moin ! ich war heute erstmal mit meinen neuen Garmin-Karten unterwegs und da kam mir einiges merkwürdig vor. Es werden die Straßennamen nur durch den ersten Buchstaben, gefolgt von Punkten (R.) dargestellt, [...] Wenn das so ist -kann man das wieder

Re: [Talk-de] Grenze und Fluss

2009-09-28 Per discussione Georg Feddern
Moin, Frederik Ramm schrieb: Hallo, Markus wrote: Eine solche Verknüpfung von Flussmitte und Grenze aufgrund eines politischen Beschlusses müsste in OSM als Regel abgebildet werden, die für den jeweiligen Fall die ansonsten getrennten Klassen Fluss und Grenze hier verbindet.

Re: [Talk-de] Grenze und Fluss

2009-09-28 Per discussione Frederik Ramm
Hallo, Georg Feddern wrote: Markus befürchtet, das *ein und dasselbe way-Objekt* die tags Fluss und Grenze bekommt, Und genau das mache ich auch so, wenn der Fluss die Grenze *ist*. Bye Frederik ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org

Re: [Talk-de] Grenze und Fluss

2009-09-28 Per discussione Frederik Ramm
Hallo, Frederik Ramm wrote: Markus befürchtet, das *ein und dasselbe way-Objekt* die tags Fluss und Grenze bekommt, Und genau das mache ich auch so, wenn der Fluss die Grenze *ist*. Ergaenzung: Das Tag Grenze am Fluss wuerde ich zwar auch setzen, aber ausschlaggebend fuer die Grenze ist

Re: [Talk-de] Wie mappt man ein Wahllokal?

2009-09-28 Per discussione Gerd Hoffmann
On 09/27/09 22:40, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: meiner Erfahrung nach sind Wahllokale (wo ich bisher wahlberechtigt war) immer dieselben Räume (klar mag sich das auch mal ändern, aber AFAIK so häufig nun auch wieder nicht). Meistens schon. Gibt aber wohl auch Orte wo das Ausrichten der Wahl

Re: [Talk-de] Wie mappt man ein Wahllokal?

2009-09-28 Per discussione DarkAngel
Martin Koppenhoefer schrieb: Am 27. September 2009 22:33 schrieb Tobias Knerr o...@tobias-knerr.de: Am ehesten ginge es wohl noch, wenn man die Wahl mit aufnimmt, also sinngemäß wahllokal_für = Bundestagswahl 2009; das würde die obigen Fragen beantworten. Obwohl das fast schon wieder das Thema

Re: [Talk-de] Grenze und Fluss

2009-09-28 Per discussione Martin Koppenhoefer
Am 28. September 2009 09:06 schrieb Georg Feddern ne...@bavarianmallet.de: Markus befürchtet, das *ein und dasselbe way-Objekt* die tags Fluss und Grenze bekommt, während alle anderen m. E. einen way Fluss und einen way Grenze erstellen, die nur dieselben Nodes als Stützpunkte verwenden. alle

Re: [Talk-de] Wie mappt man ein Wahllokal?

2009-09-28 Per discussione Martin Koppenhoefer
Am 28. September 2009 09:55 schrieb DarkAngel darkan...@ms-team.de: Sicherlich sind Schulen regelmäßig Wahllokale, ebenso andere Staatliche Einrichtungen, Gemeindehäuser usw. Aber die Bezeichnung des Wahllokals kann durchaus eine andere sein. Wahlbezirke verändern sich ebenfalls regelmäßig,

[Talk-de] vom Objekt zum changeset?

2009-09-28 Per discussione Martin Koppenhoefer
1. gibt es eigentlich eine Möglichkeit, zu einem Objekt (node/way/relation) alle changesets zu bekommen, in denen es bearbeitet wurde? 2. interessant wäre IMHO bei ways (und ggf. relationen) auch, diejenigen zu bekommen, wo zwar der way selbst _nicht_ verändert wurde, wohl aber mind. 1 seiner

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