On 2014-05-31 14:06, Serge Wroclawski wrote:
Since there is no signage for these routes, this is an import and should
be following the import guidelines.
In the past, on-road bike routes were typically advertised via maps and
annual guidebooks rather than reassurance markers. The U.S. Bike
Russ,
My opinion is that this is a single data source issue. Unlike other
data that we collect, there is nothing in the ground indicating the
existence of this as a route. There's no sign indicating where the
route is, so there's be no way to collect this data other than by
looking at an external
On 6/1/2014 12:32 AM, Russ Nelson wrote:
Why would that necessarily be
imported? And how do you import a route, anyway?
Similarly, there have been projects to add route relations to state
and county routes. Depending on the availability of sources from the
state, the mapper may end up
I am involved in similar work for the Bicitalia bicycle route network here
in Italy.
To be honest I had not considered even the possibility of considering this
an import.
The approach has been:
Where already signposted the Bicitalia routes get inserted as normal
relations.
Where the routes were
Maybe I should have cross-posted?
Please see my recent post to the import-us list at
https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/imports-us/2014-June/000583.html
Oh, and thank you, Minh. While 'tis true that the USBRS itself (as
physical infrastructure) needs a good deal of work, like a few
I would love to see these routes in OSM, and I think it's a shame that
there is such an ongoing fuss about it. I really do appreciate the
on-the-ground verifiability rule, but given that even 'approved'
imports like the NYC buildings most likely don't fully adhere to that
rule, given that it's
My apologies for posting the last message using my openstreetmap.us
account. This is my personal view, and has nothing to do with my
official capacity as osm.us chapter board member.
Martijn
On Sun, Jun 1, 2014 at 10:33 AM, Martijn van Exel
mart...@openstreetmap.us wrote:
I would love to see
Martijn van Exel wrote:
I would love to see these routes in OSM, and I think it's a shame
that there is such an ongoing fuss about it.
May I gently offer some experience from n years of both mapping and
developing National Cycle Network routes in the UK. (As well as being an
OSMer I'm a
Thanks for sharing your perspective, Richard. Regarding OSM 'not being
too far ahead' of reality - I think we should think of OSM as being
part of defining that reality, rather than just following it.
Authoritativeness in its traditional sense is an eroding concept, and
with the quality of
On 2014-06-01 10:46, Richard Fairhurst wrote:
Generally in the UK we only map proposed NCN routes when
a) we have some personal knowledge of them, and
b) the route has a serious likelihood of being signposted in the next
couple of years
This is pretty much the standard for mapping
Richard (Fairhurst):
Thank you for most informative post, sharing with us in the USA your
experiences of national bicycle network planning and especially
mapping in OSM. Your gentleness is appreciated -- in fact, it goes
a long way!
The USA equivalent of the UK's Sustrans (as national
Hi,
Bike Route 1 on Cape Cod, MA is signed. I saw a bunch of them last
summer biking around on vacation.
In my opinion at this point the new routes should go through the
import process, but given that signs are already up, and over time
more are sure to come, I don't see any problem having the
Steve,
On Sun, Jun 1, 2014 at 8:34 PM, stevea stevea...@softworkers.com wrote:
After my talk, Serge and Paul (Norman) had lunch with me, and while they
said that they did not represent the DWG, in fact they actually did. Serge
characterized this as If a cop pulls you over and says 'I'm going
Serge Wroclawski writes:
My opinion is that this is a single data source issue. Unlike other
data that we collect, there is nothing in the ground indicating the
existence of this as a route. There's no sign indicating where the
route is, so there's be no way to collect this data other than
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