To be prescriptive, the best way is to make a proposal, discuss it,
and vote on it.
While this is usually done on the international Tagging mailing list,
I've seen that the Japanese community has done formal proposals to
discuss how a tag should be used in Japan specifically.
We could consider
On August 29, 2019 at 8:08:08 AM PDT, Bradley White
wrote:
> I'm on the same page with Steve that describing how tagging currently *is*
> used and
> debating over how tagging might be better used, should be kept separate.
Kind of you to say so. I (and others) often find it useful to
> Also language introduced by NE2 when he changed the wiki to justify his own
> national mass edit on the US highways.
If all this language was added unilaterally by NE2, can we find the
specific wiki edits that they made and roll them back? I'm on the same
page with Steve that describing how
Vermont has at least two state highways that are partially or entirely
gravel, too.
On Thu, Aug 29, 2019 at 10:20 AM Wolfgang Zenker
wrote:
> * Paul Johnson [190829 14:09]:
> > On Thu, Aug 29, 2019 at 6:40 AM Joseph Eisenberg <
> joseph.eisenb...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
>
> >> That's probably
* Paul Johnson [190829 14:09]:
> On Thu, Aug 29, 2019 at 6:40 AM Joseph Eisenberg
> wrote:
>> That's probably not relevant for anywhere in the USA (even in Alaska
>> the main highways between cities are paved... right?) but it's a
>> reminder that we can certainly choose to do things in a way
On Thu, Aug 29, 2019 at 8:11 AM Paul Johnson wrote:
> The larger cities in southern Alaska. Most are gravel, including a paper
> interstate. I think Alaska's the last state to still have gravel state
> highways.
Not just southern Alaska. It's kind of hard to pave over permafrost,
so there's
On Thu, Aug 29, 2019 at 6:40 AM Joseph Eisenberg
wrote:
> That's probably not relevant for anywhere in the USA (even in Alaska
> the main highways between cities are paved... right?) but it's a
> reminder that we can certainly choose to do things in a way that makes
> sense for mapping the USA;
On Wed, Aug 28, 2019 at 11:41 PM Bradley White
wrote:
> > For example, US Hwy 101 is the main route connecting the cities (e.g.
> > Eureka) and towns along the coast of northern California. Right now
> > only some segments are tagged as highway=trunk. I would like to
> > upgrade all of it to
On 29.08.19 05:05, Joseph Eisenberg wrote:
> I don't have any local knowledge about old route 66 in OK, but I'd
> like to address the use of highway=trunk in general.
>
> I'm in favor of using a secondary tags like motorroad=yes and
> expressway=yes, along with other details like lanes=,
> For example, US Hwy 101 is the main route connecting the cities (e.g.
> Eureka) and towns along the coast of northern California. Right now
> only some segments are tagged as highway=trunk. I would like to
> upgrade all of it to highway=trunk, up to Hwy 199, where most traffic
> leaves 101 and
I chime in as a North American (Upper Midwest, originally) that highway=trunk
is a not-especially-clear semantic in OSM (here, let's say the lower 48). I
understand the history of the tag but agree it is used to mean many things,
widely, including in the states/regions/areas Joseph mentions;
I checked and motorroad=yes in used in Spain for "Autovias" which are
like expressways, but they usually allow bicycles, just like many
expressways in the USA.
So the idea that motorroads prohibit bicycles and pedestrians is more
specific to France, Germany and some other countries, while in
On Wed, Aug 28, 2019 at 9:15 PM stevea wrote:
>
> > Eeeeh, that's gonna be a hard sell for the most part, most Oklahoma
> expressways are built like this as are parts of Interstate freeways, with
> the only real difference between the two being at-grade intersections and
> limited driveways (as
On Wed, Aug 28, 2019 at 9:05 PM Joseph Eisenberg
wrote:
> I don't have any local knowledge about old route 66 in OK, but I'd
> like to address the use of highway=trunk in general.
>
> I'm in favor of using a secondary tags like motorroad=yes and
> expressway=yes, along with other details like
I totally agree with this! As I've stated before, I've long thought that
most US highways should be tagged as trunk roads. Heck, someone recently
tagged US 101 in Washington as trunk but I have no interest in changing it
back because I agree with the way it's tagged. That would be more in line
On Aug 28, 2019, at 6:16 PM, Paul Johnson wrote:
> So, the segment in question given in the example to me (I don't think the
> response was intended only for me, so I'm not quoting the whole thing) is
> https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/14678570/. OpenStreetCam has footage from
> November
I don't have any local knowledge about old route 66 in OK, but I'd
like to address the use of highway=trunk in general.
I'm in favor of using a secondary tags like motorroad=yes and
expressway=yes, along with other details like lanes=, surface=,
maxspeed=, etc, to specify expressways, rather than
On Wed, Aug 28, 2019 at 9:10 AM Kevin Kenny wrote:
> 'Historic US 66' is a bannered and numbered route because of its
> history, not because of its current importance to the road system. The
> constituent ways should be tagged as whatever they are currently in
> the road network. In many places,
On Wed, Aug 28, 2019 at 7:04 AM stevea wrote:
> Hi Paul, Hi Volker, Hi talk-us:
>
> The topic begs the question as to what such (usually very) old,
> poor-condition (where they ARE poor) roads should be tagged (we limit
> ourselves to US roads here because this is talk-us), and at what
>
On Wed, Aug 28, 2019 at 8:09 AM stevea wrote:
> The topic begs the question as to what such (usually very) old,
> poor-condition (where they ARE poor) roads should be tagged (we limit
> ourselves to US roads here because this is talk-us), and at what granularity.
> (Volker COULD do detailed
Hi Paul, Hi Volker, Hi talk-us:
The topic begs the question as to what such (usually very) old, poor-condition
(where they ARE poor) roads should be tagged (we limit ourselves to US roads
here because this is talk-us), and at what granularity. (Volker COULD do
detailed tagging, but I hear
On Tue, Aug 27, 2019 at 11:27 AM Volker Schmidt wrote:
> going over my Mapillary photos of Route 66 I just noticed that long
> stretches of the Historic 66 are mapped in OK as highway=trunk as soon as
> they have separate carriageways for the two directions. Many of these
> stretches are at best
Hi,
going over my Mapillary photos of Route 66 I just noticed that long
stretches of the Historic 66 are mapped in OK as highway=trunk as soon as
they have separate carriageways for the two directions. Many of these
stretches are at best secondary roads, often with poor road surface and
with
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