Re: [OSM-talk] Live Data - all new Data in OSM

2009-05-12 Thread Paul Johnson
Iván Sánchez Ortega wrote: El Martes, 12 de Mayo de 2009, Bernhard zwischenbrugger escribió: Is there a possibility to get all new data entered to OSM in realtime? No, AFAIK. The closest you can get is the minutely diffs (all the changes done in the last minute). It would be cool to get

[OSM-talk] TMC location codes

2009-05-15 Thread Paul Johnson
marcus.wolsc...@googlemail.com wrote: (When germany is done there are a dozen other countries with TMC location-codes that have published them openly or may be willing to do so.) I wonder how to reverse engineer these codes for areas like the US where these codes may be otherwise impossible

Re: [OSM-talk] New Proposed Feature: Tagging the age and duration of existence of features

2009-05-22 Thread Paul Johnson
Lester Caine wrote: OJ W wrote: start_date=, end_date= http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Map_Features#Properties http://osmdoc.com/en/tag/start_date/ http://osmdoc.com/en/tag/end_date/ maybe someone could create the tag pages for those on wiki? 2009/5/22 Peter Dörrie

Re: [OSM-talk] How to tag small city alley ?

2009-05-25 Thread Paul Johnson
Ivan Garcia wrote: Hi, could you tell me by looking at this picture [1] how to tag this in OSM ? http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_8Y0T3EnBVPw/SJcJ13KnOII/BCg/ot4X2My6CvA/s400/vietnam%2Balley.jpg It's an alley where only people/motorbikes can go. access=no foot=yes bicycle=yes (I assume

Re: [OSM-talk] Turn restrictions

2009-05-26 Thread Paul Johnson
Maarten Deen wrote: I've searched the wiki and I have used the tag myself, but there seems to be no documentation for restriction= ? This is, in fact, documented. http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Relation:restriction signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [OSM-talk] How to tag small city alley ?

2009-05-26 Thread Paul Johnson
Ben Laenen wrote: On Tuesday 26 May 2009, Jacek Konieczny wrote: On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 09:56:42AM +0200, Ivan Garcia wrote: Hi Peter, which your approach, I believe that the render by osm will be the same than a normal residential street No, I guess, it will have a red dashed transparent

Re: [OSM-talk] How to tag small city alley ?

2009-05-26 Thread Paul Johnson
andrzej zaborowski wrote: 2009/5/26 Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason ava...@gmail.com: On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 7:56 AM, Ivan Garcia capisc...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Peter, which your approach, I believe that the render by osm will be the same than a normal residential street, what highway tag can I use

Re: [OSM-talk] How to tag small city alley ?

2009-05-27 Thread Paul Johnson
andrzej zaborowski wrote: 2009/5/26 Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason ava...@gmail.com: On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 7:56 AM, Ivan Garcia capisc...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Peter, which your approach, I believe that the render by osm will be the same than a normal residential street, what highway tag can I use

Re: [OSM-talk] How to tag small city alley ?

2009-05-29 Thread Paul Johnson
Greg Troxel wrote: I'd agree that service isn't quite right, if that's the front of the buildings. But similarly residential isn't right either (I guess we all think of that as something with pavements/sidewalks). highway=unclassified for now (and throw a fixme= tag explaining the

Re: [OSM-talk] How to tag small city alley ?

2009-05-29 Thread Paul Johnson
- Zitierten Text ausblenden - Greg Troxel wrote: I'd agree that service isn't quite right, if that's the front of th= e buildings. But similarly residential isn't right either (I guess we= all think of that as something with pavements/sidewalks). highway=3Dunclassified for now (and

Re: [OSM-talk] Is 'name' tag mandatory for a 'living_street'?

2009-06-06 Thread Paul Johnson
USHAKOV, Sergey wrote: Hi, the wiki page http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:highway%3Dliving_street suggests that 'living_street' objects should be attributed with a 'name' tag. Meanwhile it is not uncommon for residential areas to have unnamed alleys inside, and the latter may form

Re: [OSM-talk] Is 'name' tag mandatory for a 'living_street'?

2009-06-07 Thread Paul Johnson
Jens Müller wrote: On 06.06.2009 15:14, Christoph Böhme wrote: in Germany a living_street is a designated type of street with a special sign [1]. So, I would only use living_street for this type of streets. Living streets are actully _zones_, so any alley at a living street is itself a

Re: [OSM-talk] RFC - 'living_street'

2009-06-08 Thread Paul Johnson
USHAKOV, Sergey wrote: Hi again, looks like I have brought a lot of confusion in my previous posts by misuse of the word 'alley'. The latter seems to have too broad range of meanings, and many of them are not what I meant. Just compare http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alley (not good as a

Re: [OSM-talk] Open*Map.* ?

2009-06-08 Thread Paul Johnson
Nic Roets wrote: Hi Russ, Does http://www.opengreenmap.org/ count ? The only thing that open about them is that they use FOSS and they are open to accepting pins in a Google Map. (The same can be said about Google Earth, so they are as open as the Democratic People's Republic of Korea is

[OSM-talk] Bicycle boulevards

2009-06-09 Thread Paul Johnson
I'm curious if bicycle boulevards would qualify as living streets, given that a living street would most closely describe a bicycle boulevard in OSM terms, though a bicycle boulevard might lack pedestrian facilities. Frequently, these are not streets you would want to let the kids play in, as the

Re: [OSM-talk] RFC - 'living_street'

2009-06-09 Thread Paul Johnson
USHAKOV, Sergey wrote: Wikipedia isn't the best example making a judgement call on this, either; our own wiki is much better in this regard. Our wiki has tagging examples and graphics that seem to make it pretty clear that the living_street tag applies only to ways that are actually

Re: [OSM-talk] Bicycle boulevards

2009-06-10 Thread Paul Johnson
I'm curious if bicycle boulevards would qualify as living streets, giv= en that a living street would most closely describe a bicycle boulevard i= n OSM terms, though a bicycle boulevard might lack pedestrian facilities= =2E Frequently, these are not streets you would want to let the kids

Re: [OSM-talk] Bicycle boulevards

2009-06-10 Thread Paul Johnson
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Re: [OSM-talk] Bicycle boulevards

2009-06-10 Thread Paul Johnson
Frederik Ramm wrote: Hi, Mario Salvini wrote: Even in germany on these roads there are no additional rights-of-way in comparison to normal cycleways (except that bicycles get the officially allowance to drive next to each other and not just inline. buts that's piece of cake ;) ). A

Re: [OSM-talk] Bicycle boulevards

2009-06-10 Thread Paul Johnson
Mario Salvini wrote: Richard Fairhurst schrieb: Shaun McDonald wrote: In my eyes, that road would be simply tagged with highway=cycleway. plus designation=cycleroad cheers Richard is there a benefit instead of just tagging these ways: highway=cycleway + motor_vehicle=yes ?

Re: [OSM-talk] Bicycle boulevards

2009-06-10 Thread Paul Johnson
Ed Loach wrote: In my eyes, that road would be simply tagged with highway=cycleway. As per the discussion on the talk page of the proposal. Alternatively highway=(road type), access=no, bicycle=yes. There are arguments I believe that in exceptions where cars are also allowed, having a

Re: [OSM-talk] Bicycle boulevards

2009-06-10 Thread Paul Johnson
Frederik Ramm wrote: Hi, 2009/6/10 Mario Salvini salv...@t-online.de: tag both ways as: highway=cycleway motor_vehicle=yes footway=right parking:right=inline parrking:left=diagonal width=13 I won't have it. This feature is a road, not a 20 metre wide cycleway with parking

Re: [OSM-talk] Bicycle boulevards

2009-06-10 Thread Paul Johnson
Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: 2009/6/10 Mario Salvini salv...@t-online.de: tag both ways as: highway=cycleway motor_vehicle=yes footway=right parking:right=inline parrking:left=diagonal width=13 the rest you don't like is just a rendering issue but not about data, I think. the rendering

Re: [OSM-talk] Bicycle boulevards

2009-06-10 Thread Paul Johnson
Richard Mann wrote: I think designation is about the legal status of a way, particularly where that might not be obvious from, or in conflict with the physical characteristics of the way. On physical characteristics, you can get a fair way with highway=residential + maxspeed=(say)30. There

Re: [OSM-talk] my cycling speed from gps traces

2009-06-10 Thread Paul Johnson
si...@mungewell.org wrote: Imagine if we scale this OSM and filter gps traces collected by cars, we have an empirical data on the average traffic speed. Unfortunately the GPS traces will be 'slow biased' as we all slow/stop to take pictures of post boxes etc. Depends; some of us just

Re: [OSM-talk] Bicycle boulevards

2009-06-10 Thread Paul Johnson
Michael Barabanov wrote: Can we use relations same way as for more complex cycle routes for this one? Yes, though you're not limited to just a specific kind of way for relations. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ talk mailing

Re: [OSM-talk] Bicycle boulevards

2009-06-10 Thread Paul Johnson
Karl Newman wrote: On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 10:04 AM, Paul Johnson ba...@ursamundi.org mailto:ba...@ursamundi.org wrote: Karl Newman wrote: *Avoid duplicate copies of messages?* When you are listed explicitly in the To: or Cc: headers of a list message, you can

Re: [OSM-talk] [tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Designation

2009-06-10 Thread Paul Johnson
Richard Mann wrote: This is a request for comments on the proposal for a new Key:designation. Hopefully it's had it's rough edges removed already, but I would appreciate your comments. Richard http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Designation I'm opposed; this seems like

Re: [OSM-talk] Bicycle boulevards

2009-06-10 Thread Paul Johnson
Ted Percival wrote: If it's not a through road for vehicles but is for bicycles that could be a challenge to tag access restrictions on. Perhaps a node with barrier=* if there is one. The barriers aren't usually barriers as such, but rather turn restrictions in place with exceptions for

Re: [OSM-talk] Bicycle boulevards

2009-06-10 Thread Paul Johnson
Mario Salvini wrote: Martin Koppenhoefer schrieb: 2009/6/10 Shaun McDonald sh...@shaunmcdonald.me.uk: In my eyes, that road would be simply tagged with highway=cycleway. there are some main differences though: usually they are normal streets changed in designation. That is cars are

Re: [OSM-talk] Bicycle boulevards

2009-06-10 Thread Paul Johnson
Cartinus wrote: But all other cyclestreets I know of in the Netherlands are signposted with signs that have no legal status at all. Using designation=cyclestreet there would not be appropriate. Using highway=residential or unclassified plus cycleway=cyclestreet sounds like a very good idea

Re: [OSM-talk] Vote for Google to liberate their aerial imagery - *please help*

2009-09-12 Thread Paul Johnson
On Fri, 2009-09-11 at 14:49 +0100, Richard Fairhurst wrote: Google has a really enlightened guy called the Data Liberation Front. His role is to make it easy for people to get their data out of Google - rather than it being locked in. Notice that signing online petitions to encourage

Re: [OSM-talk] Karlruhe Scheme addressing ways from 2009 TIGER data

2009-11-19 Thread Paul Johnson
Dave Hansen wrote: On Mon, 2009-11-16 at 15:05 +, Andy Allan wrote: So please, turn away from imports and work on getting mappers in charge, especially out pounding the streets. The outcome will be much, much better in the end, and that end will come much, much quicker. I think TIGER

Re: [OSM-talk] Which entry level budget garmin

2009-03-15 Thread Paul Johnson
Ulf Lamping wrote: Well, the zumo 550 (which is very certainly a somewhat roughetized nuvi) has no snap to road setting (it has not a lot of options in that regard at all). I did made experiments with the track log. Some of the tracks did *suspiciously* looked like a snap to road while

Re: [OSM-talk] Tagging dangerous areas

2009-04-03 Thread Paul Johnson
Matt Amos wrote: On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 1:55 PM, Brian Quinion openstreet...@brian.quinion.co.uk wrote: On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 9:38 AM, Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists) ajrli...@googlemail.com wrote: This should be tagged in a different way that uses fact instead of opinion/fiction.

Re: [OSM-talk] Rough Tracks

2009-04-21 Thread Paul Johnson
Mike Harris wrote: Oh dear - and I thought this was going to be simple! We're back to the confusion and overlap between the various keys and their values. If the mode_of_transport=yes/no tags have the same implications as the access= tags then do we need both? Yes. Access= sets the default,

Re: [OSM-talk] Rough Tracks

2009-04-21 Thread Paul Johnson
kaerast wrote: Claudius wrote: Down-grade them to grade4 or grade5. It's not your job to fix the router's routing in the data. The wiki suggests that the track grades are for surface type rather than usability. Yet there does also exist surface=* so I'm not sure. The grades sound

[OSM-talk] Complex turn restrictions

2009-04-24 Thread Paul Johnson
In Salem, Oregon, I have encountered a ramp that I can't quite seem to make a restriction that JOSM thinks is valid, so I'm wondering what the expected way to handle such a situation is. The area in question is visible at

Re: [OSM-talk] How to tag oneway exceptions?

2009-04-27 Thread Paul Johnson
Tobias Knerr wrote: Ben Laenen wrote: The proposal Conditions for access tags allows to alternatively use oneway=yes + oneway:bicycle=no which is a bit more flexible because it is not limited to bicycles, see http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Conditions_for_a ccess_tags

Re: [OSM-talk] How to tag oneway exceptions?

2009-04-27 Thread Paul Johnson
Ben Laenen wrote: On Sunday 26 April 2009, Tobias Knerr wrote: Renaud MICHEL schrieb: I didn't find an answer in the wiki, how should I tag roads that are one way for motorized vehicles but two way for bicycle? The documented and established way to do so is oneway=yes + cycleway=opposite,

Re: [OSM-talk] How to tag oneway exceptions? Oneway except residents?

2009-04-30 Thread Paul Johnson
Eddy Petrișor wrote: Paul Johnson a scris: Ben Laenen wrote: On Sunday 26 April 2009, Tobias Knerr wrote: Renaud MICHEL schrieb: I didn't find an answer in the wiki, how should I tag roads that are one way for motorized vehicles but two way for bicycle? The documented and established way

Re: [OSM-talk] Rendering of footways with bicycle=yes

2009-04-30 Thread Paul Johnson
Richard Mann wrote: Why not tag it as a cycleway? Then it will display as a cycleway. How is it different from anything else that might be tagged as a cycleway? At least when I'm trying to decide, I ask two questions: 1) Does it allow bicycles, and 2) Is it wide enough for two cyclists going

Re: [OSM-talk] Rendering of footways with bicycle=yes

2009-04-30 Thread Paul Johnson
Richard Mann wrote: It comes down to what you think is meant by highway=cycleway. If you think that it means a cycle superhighway, then obviously you don't want to apply that to a shared-with-pedestrians route. Depends on jurisdiction, of course. One problem OSM has with handling Oregon and

Re: [OSM-talk] Rendering of footways with bicycle=yes

2009-04-30 Thread Paul Johnson
Jacek Konieczny wrote: On Thu, Apr 30, 2009 at 01:10:13PM +0200, Mario Salvini wrote: If such paths are designated for foot ans bicyle as well, why don't you tag them both as designated? highway=path foot=designated bicycle=designated ( or footway +bicycle=designated or

Re: [OSM-talk] Rendering of footways with bicycle=yes

2009-05-02 Thread Paul Johnson
Mike Harris wrote: Be careful with dogging - it has a quite different meaning in British English (;) - on the other hand, I think you did mention it was in Oregon, so maybe ... I wasn't entirely unaware of the connotation... it does successfully screw over cycle traffic, especially if they

Re: [OSM-talk] Wikipedia POI import?

2009-05-05 Thread Paul Johnson
Richard Fairhurst wrote: Adam Schreiber wrote: We don't know where the wikipedia users sourced their cooridinates from. Oh yes we do: Google Maps. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Obtaining_geographic_coordinates#Google_tools There is absolutely no way that Wikipedia-derived

Re: [OSM-talk] Wikipedia POI import?

2009-05-06 Thread Paul Johnson
Russ Nelson wrote: On May 6, 2009, at 2:02 PM, Dair Grant wrote: Russ Nelson wrote: TeleAtlas data is copyrighted, and when licensed is licensed under an incompatible copyright. The data you're proposing taking from Wikipedia is probably derived, via Google, from that same TeleAtlas

Re: [OSM-talk] Wikipedia POI import?

2009-05-06 Thread Paul Johnson
N are known to contain easter eggs (though I don't recall which of the two denies this publicly). signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

[OSM-talk] Possible import of Metro, Oregon Bike There! data

2009-05-08 Thread Paul Johnson
Just a heads up to everyone, Metro DRC is holding a staff meeting on Monday regarding moving to a crowdsourced model to maintain the map. I contacted the Bike There lead yesterday, who informed me this morning that my timing was impeccable, and my expressed interest in merging this data in OSM

Re: [OSM-talk] dispensing pharmacy considered confusing

2009-05-08 Thread Paul Johnson
Greg Troxel wrote: I just mapped a CVS, which is a store that sells lots of personal hygiene stuff and has a real pharmacy (with a licensed pharmacist, who can fill prescriptions signed by doctors). I used amenity=pharmacy dispensing=yes, but find the description on the tag page confusing. I

[OSM-talk] All Oregon GIS data now available

2009-05-08 Thread Paul Johnson
A few weeks ago, I contacted Oregon GEO to see if I could get the official GIS data for Oregon relicensed for OpenStreetMap. After a three-week delay from my initial contact, I got a response to check the website again: They had updated it so all their data is in the public domain. So, all of

Re: [OSM-talk] dispensing pharmacy considered confusing

2009-05-09 Thread Paul Johnson
Adam Schreiber wrote: On Fri, May 8, 2009 at 5:55 PM, Paul Johnson ba...@ursamundi.org wrote: Greg Troxel wrote: I just mapped a CVS, which is a store that sells lots of personal hygiene stuff and has a real pharmacy (with a licensed pharmacist, who can fill prescriptions signed by doctors

Re: [OSM-talk] dispensing pharmacy considered confusing

2009-05-09 Thread Paul Johnson
Stefan Bethke wrote: Am 09.05.2009 um 08:59 schrieb Paul Johnson: Yes, but here in the US you wouldn't call anything where you couldn't get a prescription filled a pharmacy so the dispensing tag is redundant. I think that's what he's getting at. That's not true: I can think of several

Re: [OSM-talk] tagging Greenways (was: Re: Good routing vs legal routing (was: Path vsfootwayvs cycleway vs...))

2009-12-17 Thread Paul Johnson
Sam Vekemans wrote: Where the only way i know to map it is to use a relation and call it route=greenway and dont have it render on the cyclemap. Just map the sections as appropriate. Greenway is the US/Canadianism for cycleway. ___ talk mailing

Re: [OSM-talk] tagging Greenways

2009-12-20 Thread Paul Johnson
Greg Troxel wrote: I don't follow this. I think that in the US a cycleway would be called either a bike path or rail trail, depending on origin. You'd likely be wrong. Willamette Greenway is a very long, very popular bicycle arterial in Portland. The only thing it implies is non-motorized,

Re: [OSM-talk] [Warning: Potential Flamewar] Clarifying Interstate Relations

2010-03-09 Thread Paul Johnson
On Sun, 07 Feb 2010 13:58:38 -0500, Chris Hunter wrote: Last night, user NE2 cleaned up the interstate system by merging all of the states with 2 relations per interstate back into 1 relation with direction-based roles. I've already requested a roll-back on the area I was working on, but I

[OSM-talk] Victoria seems to be missing.

2012-03-06 Thread Paul Johnson
Looked at http://www.mapdust.com/detail/1978573 and noticed there doesn't seem to be any ways, but the nodes that belonged to the missing ways are still there. History only indicates Acrosscanadatrails as being the only person who has touched those nodes. Quite confused as to what happened here.

Re: [OSM-talk] Victoria seems to be missing.

2012-03-06 Thread Paul Johnson
On Mar 6, 2012 10:11 AM, Andrew Allison andrew.alli...@teksavvy.com wrote: On Sun, 2012-03-04 at 16:43 -0800, Paul Johnson wrote: Looked at http://www.mapdust.com/detail/1978573 and noticed there doesn't seem to be any ways, but the nodes that belonged to the missing ways are still

Re: [OSM-talk] iPhoto for iOS Not Using Google Maps

2012-03-08 Thread Paul Johnson
On Thu, Mar 8, 2012 at 3:53 AM, Julio Costa Zambelli julio.co...@openstreetmap.cl wrote: The map has the same easter eggs as Waze OSM import did in early 2010 (http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk/2010-August/053579.html), so I agree with Richards time frame estimate. Waze is using

Re: [OSM-talk] Nice problem to have

2012-03-09 Thread Paul Johnson
On Thu, Mar 8, 2012 at 4:10 PM, Martijn van Exel m...@rtijn.org wrote: Thanks for summarizing Richard. Really amazing to see the amount of response this is generating. Only some of the Apple-specific blogs are catching on to this, MacRumors among them:

Re: [OSM-talk] Group relation proposal

2012-03-22 Thread Paul Johnson
On Mar 22, 2012 5:14 AM, Richard Mann richard.mann.westoxf...@gmail.com wrote: Relations are not categories. They are for recording geospatial relationships between elements, not for putting things in groups. I agree, this has the real potential to overcomplicate editing routes in places where

Re: [OSM-talk] Group relation proposal

2012-03-22 Thread Paul Johnson
On Mar 22, 2012 7:32 AM, Petr Morávek [Xificurk] xific...@gmail.com wrote: Paul Johnson wrote: On Mar 22, 2012 5:14 AM, Richard Mann richard.mann.westoxf...@gmail.com mailto:richard.mann.westoxf...@gmail.com wrote: Relations are not categories. They are for recording geospatial

Re: [OSM-talk] Associated Press article: Crowds create Wikipedia-style maps of the world

2012-03-22 Thread Paul Johnson
On Mar 22, 2012 11:29 AM, Robert Scott li...@humanleg.org.uk wrote: On Thursday 22 March 2012, Spod OSM wrote: http://www.japantoday.com/category/lifestyle/view/crowds-create-wikipedia-style-maps-of-the-world?utm_campaign=jt_newsletterutm_medium=emailutm_source=jt_newsletter_2012-03-22_AM

Re: [OSM-talk] automated abbreviation changes?!

2012-03-23 Thread Paul Johnson
On Fri, Mar 23, 2012 at 5:36 AM, Mikel Maron mikel_ma...@yahoo.com wrote: User chdr (http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/chdr) seems to be running a script to automatically replace street name abbreviations with the full word. so 1600 Pennsylvania Ave NW becomes 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue

Re: [OSM-talk] Komuna e Malishevs, Serbia ?

2012-04-01 Thread Paul Johnson
On Sun, Apr 1, 2012 at 3:01 AM, Павел Фомин pavel...@yandex.ru wrote: Arrrgh. We should have rules on mapping disputed areas and partially recognised countries. Is OSM showing the internationally accepted situation or is it taking into account every single front line? Seems to be

Re: [OSM-talk] Mapdust

2012-04-06 Thread Paul Johnson
On Apr 6, 2012 7:25 AM, Philip Barnes p...@trigpoint.me.uk wrote: Anyone else try to fix bugs off there? I have tried as I want to improve OSM. I do regularly in the Oklahoma, Kansas, Oregon and Washington areas. I am increasingly finding it a waste of time, too many bugs are labelled

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM cycle map - ?excessive focus on long-distance routes

2012-05-09 Thread Paul Johnson
On May 9, 2012 11:27 AM, Cartinus carti...@xs4all.nl wrote: On 05/09/2012 10:54 AM, Richard Mann wrote: Obviously, OCM can render what it likes, but I think this neatly illustrates that OSM tagging of cycle routes is missing a trick or two. The first map in your mail is the kind of map

Re: [OSM-talk] TomTom is thumping us

2012-05-29 Thread Paul Johnson
On May 29, 2012 1:16 AM, Nick Whitelegg nick.whitel...@solent.ac.uk wrote: This is a very one sided argument and assumes that commercial online maps are accurate. It also completely neglects the fact that you can use OSM data without a fee andf without someone telling you what you can and cannot

Re: [OSM-talk] TomTom is thumping us

2012-06-01 Thread Paul Johnson
On Fri, Jun 1, 2012 at 2:15 AM, Lambertus o...@na1400.info wrote: A few recent quotes from OSM Garmin map users who emailed to say thanks: I travelled for 40 days in 7 different countries in South America abd found the Garmin Maps very helpful. I was driving last week through the netherlands

Re: [OSM-talk] Import guidelines review

2012-06-06 Thread Paul Johnson
On Wed, Jun 6, 2012 at 5:59 AM, Werner Poppele popp...@hm.edu wrote: Dont forget that an importer can produce thousands of errors in a very short period of time. All these must be fixed by humans. In some cases years after the import Notorious North American example: TIGER...

Re: [OSM-talk] Custom Imagery

2012-06-17 Thread Paul Johnson
On Sun, Jun 17, 2012 at 8:51 PM, Alex Rollin alex.rol...@gmail.com wrote: I am looking into how to use custom imagery for tracing. Can anyone point me at a process, and how-to? I was looking at the Digital Globe site, thinking of buying some images. What would I do with them to load them

Re: [OSM-talk] Funny usability issue

2012-07-09 Thread Paul Johnson
On Mon, Jul 9, 2012 at 6:09 AM, maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.comwrote: Just sharing something that happened during one of my osm session with newbies. Using P2, asked one user to zoom in closer. He/she then tried clicking the big OSM logo in the upperleft corner of the website. ;)

Re: [OSM-talk] Licence redaction ready to begin

2012-07-09 Thread Paul Johnson
On Mon, Jul 9, 2012 at 1:46 PM, Richard Fairhurst rich...@systemed.netwrote: Starting this week, we will be 'redacting' the contributions (less than 1%) from the live database that are not compatible with the new Contributor Terms and Open Database Licence (ODbL) - in other words, they will no

[OSM-talk] MapDust JOSM plugin

2012-07-15 Thread Paul Johnson
Is there someplace I can find the source for this plugin? I really want to enable the ability to select multiple bugs at once and tag all the bugs selected as fixed or invalid with the same comment. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org

Re: [OSM-talk] MapDust JOSM plugin

2012-07-15 Thread Paul Johnson
On Sun, Jul 15, 2012 at 5:43 PM, colliar colliar4e...@aol.com wrote: On 16/07/12 01:58, Paul Johnson wrote: Is there someplace I can find the source for this plugin? I really want to enable the ability to select multiple bugs at once and tag all the bugs selected as fixed or invalid

Re: [OSM-talk] Funny Twitter redaction comments

2012-07-20 Thread Paul Johnson
On Fri, Jul 20, 2012 at 2:49 AM, Eric Marsden eric.mars...@free.fr wrote: people should not read Twitter feeds. I fixed that for you. At least for those of us not fluent with Chinese, Japanese, Cherokee, or some other language that uses ideograms or a syllabary instead of an alphabet,

Re: [OSM-talk] Very not happy

2012-07-20 Thread Paul Johnson
On Fri, Jul 20, 2012 at 3:20 PM, Maetma 91 maetm...@gmail.com wrote: Before I say to my friends Use Openstreetmap it is cool and today they laugh me and say Openstreetmap is shit, it miss lots roads So fix it. Also, this could have been prevented in advance by using the license review tools

Re: [OSM-talk] FYI - Automated edit: footway - sidewalk

2012-07-25 Thread Paul Johnson
On Wed, Jul 25, 2012 at 6:47 AM, SomeoneElse li...@mail.atownsend.org.ukwrote: Gregory wrote: I don't have an account on the forum. Your standard OSM login should work there I think? There's also the whole forums are a PITA factor that mailing lists lack entirely.

Re: [OSM-talk] Explanation for image of the week 31?

2012-07-30 Thread Paul Johnson
On Mon, Jul 30, 2012 at 9:33 AM, Thomas Davie tom.da...@gmail.com wrote: On 30 Jul 2012, at 17:26, Maarten Deen md...@xs4all.nl wrote: What's the joke on the current image of the week? It's a reference to Harry Potter and the Olympics? Is it a rendering of a real Olympics stadium or what?

Re: [OSM-talk] Ipatinga, Brazil, is gone

2012-08-07 Thread Paul Johnson
On Mon, Aug 6, 2012 at 11:25 PM, popp...@hm.edu wrote: I used the remaining nodes to create some highways. You may have to split them into smaller parts according to the real world. Its best to find a local mapper to refine the highways. I tagged the newly created highways as

[OSM-talk] Problem with JOSM plugins

2012-09-16 Thread Paul Johnson
I'm unable to load certain JOSM plugins (namely: measurement, openvisible, DirectUpload) on amd64 Debian, using either Sun or OpenJDK. I'm pretty stumped on how to solve this...any hints? JOSM output follows. baloo@paddington:~/Downloads$ josm Using /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-openjdk/bin/java to

[OSM-talk] JOSM tile cache

2012-09-22 Thread Paul Johnson
I'm wondering where I would be able to see cache stats for imagery caches in JOSM, and any settings that might influence caching. At my home here in Oklahoma, I tend to only have a GPRS connection to the internet, so being able to maximize the local cache would be quite useful.

Re: [OSM-talk] Who Did It?

2012-10-03 Thread Paul Johnson
On Wednesday, October 3, 2012, Dave F. wrote: This looks like a great resource I'm using it regularly but I'm not sure edits done in Potlatch should automatically be considered suspicious, and classifying an edit 'red' because six nodes one way were removed when 134/3 were added seems a

Re: [OSM-talk] FYI - OpenTripPlanner instance

2012-10-31 Thread Paul Johnson
I'd love to reproduce that unofficially here in Tulsa. I was one of the OSM folks that worked on the data for the TriMet project. I haven't ever set up OTP before, I suggested it to Tulsa Transit sometime last year, they said it hadn't occurred to them to try an online trip planner. Then turned

Re: [OSM-talk] Operation Cowboy - 23. -25.11.

2012-11-03 Thread Paul Johnson
I'm trying to organize one in the Tulsa area, using this Google eventhttps://plus.google.com/u/0/events/c3ohfbgso96b1ahm1li1hba5aucto organize and promote it. On Sat, Nov 3, 2012 at 5:41 AM, Matthias Meißer dig...@arcor.de wrote: Hi everybody, I'd like to announce the fellow of the night of

Re: [OSM-talk] Data copied from Google Maps

2012-11-03 Thread Paul Johnson
On Sat, Nov 3, 2012 at 2:09 PM, Stephan Knauss o...@stephans-server.dewrote: As you mentioned StreetView: Using it to create a database is likely a violation of their TOS and OSM does not want this practice. In which way Google could have copyright or database rights on factual data derived

[OSM-talk] Data copied from Google Maps

2012-11-03 Thread Paul Johnson
On Saturday, November 3, 2012, Ian Sergeant wrote: On 04/11/12 07:24, Paul Johnson wrote: Would it be acceptable to use Street View to aid your memory of local knowledge of the ground truth? Something that's on the tip of your brain and you have actually been there, but can't remember what

[OSM-talk] Aaaaaaaaaaaaargh

2012-12-21 Thread Paul Johnson
On Friday, December 21, 2012, Richard Mann wrote: If there's a way of stopping the API from storing/returning very small numbers in scientific notation, I'm sure it'll save someone (else) some heartache in future. Or at least reserve it for more extreme cases than that...e±10 would be a

Re: [OSM-talk] permament access restrictions and routing

2012-12-24 Thread Paul Johnson
Sounds like perhaps highway=pedestrian, vehicle=destination would be closer to what we're looking for? On Mon, Dec 24, 2012 at 6:32 AM, Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com wrote: 2012/12/24 Maarten Deen md...@xs4all.nl: On 2012-12-23 23:53, Chris Hill wrote: On 23/12/12 15:41,

Re: [OSM-talk] Can Google use our buildings

2013-01-09 Thread Paul Johnson
Not necessarily. Urban blind people probably want to know where there's likely to be a wall. On Wed, Jan 9, 2013 at 7:30 AM, Greg Troxel g...@ir.bbn.com wrote: Gregory nomoregra...@googlemail.com writes: Why do you want to see outlines autogenerated from aerial imagery, you could just

Re: [OSM-talk] Simple improvement(s) to openstreetmap.org

2013-01-09 Thread Paul Johnson
On Wed, Jan 9, 2013 at 8:57 AM, Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org wrote: I think it is ok for us to post stuff to Twitter, and I think we should make room for such news on our web page (many web sites have a widget that shows the most recent twitter mentions). I would dislike a follow us on

Re: [OSM-talk] Simple improvement(s) to openstreetmap.org

2013-01-15 Thread Paul Johnson
On Wednesday, January 9, 2013, Joseph Reeves wrote: Ok, I'll bite... I think this would be missing our audience. If you're illiterate (a group Twitter caters specifically to), what are the odds you're going to be able to make use of a map, much less contribute constructively to OSM? How

Re: [OSM-talk] Fwd: Simple improvement(s) to openstreetmap.org

2013-01-15 Thread Paul Johnson
. -- Forwarded message -- From: Paul Johnson ba...@ursamundi.org Date: Tue, Jan 15, 2013 at 9:36 AM Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Simple improvement(s) to openstreetmap.org To: talk@openstreetmap.org talk@openstreetmap.org On Wednesday, January 9, 2013, Joseph Reeves wrote: Ok, I'll bite

Re: [OSM-talk] ;-)

2013-01-30 Thread Paul Johnson
A little disappointed the alt-text didn't bring up any of the long-term debates simmering slowly under the lid here... On Wed, Jan 30, 2013 at 9:03 AM, Alex Barth a...@mapbox.com wrote: http://xkcd.com/1167/ ___ talk mailing list

[OSM-talk] Speed limits on Garmin

2013-02-11 Thread Paul Johnson
What's the best tool to get Garmin devices to show maxspeed on screen? AFAICT, mkgmap doesn't handle including speed limit data so it appears on screen during navigation, thus also providing speed limit alerts. This would not only be useful for navigation, but also for finding incorrectly tagged

Re: [OSM-talk] Display names of crossroads

2013-02-13 Thread Paul Johnson
I'm starting to wonder if something could be adapted from the cycleway node style network tagging. On Feb 13, 2013 8:41 AM, Joseph Reeves iknowjos...@gmail.com wrote: The thing with the UK is that you get places named after junctions - Church Cross, or whatever. That may well be a locality, but

Re: [OSM-talk] advice for getting a newer Garmin nüvi car navigation device?

2013-02-13 Thread Paul Johnson
On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 7:06 PM, Greg Troxel g...@ir.bbn.com wrote: My other advice is that you can put osm data on a microsd, and take it to the store and try it. See the mkgmap docs/wiki, but basically, once you get the file, call it /Garmin/gmapsupp.img. Just power down the unit, put in

Re: [OSM-talk] advice for getting a newer Garmin nüvi car navigation device?

2013-02-14 Thread Paul Johnson
On Feb 14, 2013 2:54 AM, Kevin Peat k...@k3v.eu wrote: On 14 Feb 2013 01:10, Paul Johnson ba...@ursamundi.org Annoyingly, most of the cool goodies like on-screen speed limit and overspeed alert and lane assist aren't available in the mkgmap output as far as I can tell¹... I have rolled

Re: [OSM-talk] Master City - Country versions (Italy, France and Germany)

2013-03-08 Thread Paul Johnson
On Friday, March 8, 2013, Mario Danelli wrote: Dear all, I just released Android country versions of the Master City game Where can we find out more about this game? ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org

Re: [OSM-talk] Out of Service Roads

2013-03-28 Thread Paul Johnson
Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't access=no implied with any construction=* value other than minor? At least this is the feel I got from live use as the way mkgmap interprets things. On Thu, Mar 28, 2013 at 8:57 PM, Russ Nelson nel...@crynwr.com wrote: Clifford Snow writes: How do you tag

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