Re: [OSM-talk] Google Map Maker - press release

2008-06-26 Thread Nic Roets
My experience says that an institution like the foundation should not
get involved in trying to give advice or otherwise comment on the
product of a competitor. The reader will either know who we are and
does not need to be informed about GMM, or the reader will think that
the press release does not tell the whole story and give GMM a chance.

We're bigger than them in this space, so why give them free publicity ?

They're going to draw users who do not know the difference between
free beer and free speech. They wouldn't bother getting it right
(rendering, routing etc).

You and Steve can say anything you like in your personal capacity. But
I think it should be a bit more positive like OpenStreetMap responds
to Google's effort with highly detailed of Googleplex

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Re: [OSM-talk] Google Map Maker - press release

2008-06-26 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Nic Roets wrote:

 We're bigger than them in this space, so why give them free  
 publicity ?

Again, it depends on the media, I think. It's very plausible that Big  
Media will want to report on Google Map Maker - Google is sexy in news  
terms right now; there seems to be a story about them every other day  
in the Independent. And if they're going to report on it anyway, we  
want our name in there.

cheers
Richard

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Re: [OSM-talk] Google Map Maker - press release

2008-06-26 Thread Richard Fairhurst
John McKerrell wrote:

 One thing I'd say about the release is we might want to mention non-UK
 places too, it mentions Brighton and pubs of England. There's the
 wikiguide of Paris too isn't there which might be worth a mention?

Good point - feel free to localise.

cheers
Richard

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Re: [OSM-talk] Google Map Maker - press release

2008-06-26 Thread Martijn van Exel
Op 26 jun 2008, om 00:55 heeft Richard Fairhurst het volgende  
geschreven:

 Hi all,

 We've put together a press release with OSM (strictly speaking OSMF)'s
 reaction to Google Map Maker.

 You can get it in PDF or RTF format at:
 http://svn.openstreetmap.org/misc/pr_material/releases/

 The OSMF board is sending it to a few of the big tech blogs, but in
 true OSM fashion, we'd like to crowdsource the distribution. After
 all, the OSM community has had amazing success in getting publicity
 recently.

 So please do:

 - download the release
 - translate it into your language
 - add any useful local statistics (e.g. 1000 roads in Nether Yvebosch
 mapped by one man)
 - add your contact details, if you're happy to be a media spokesperson
 - and send it to media who you think may appreciate it!

Hi Richard,

I translated the release into Dutch. It's being scrutinized by my  
Dutch peers today, and I hope we'll be able to send it out to the  
Dutch press later today.

For those who can read Dutch, the draft is here: 
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/WikiProject_Netherlands/PressRelease#Google_Maps_.22zit_ernaast.22_met_bewerkbare_kaart
 
 

Take care,

Martijn
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Re: [OSM-talk] Google Map Maker - press release (Richard Fairhurst)

2008-06-26 Thread Phil Endecott
Richard Fairhurst wrote:
 We've put together a press release with OSM (strictly speaking OSMF)'s  
 reaction to Google Map Maker.

 You can get it in PDF or RTF format at:
 http://svn.openstreetmap.org/misc/pr_material/releases/

http://svn.openstreetmap.org/misc/pr_material/releases/osm_release_25062008.pdf 
currently seems to be served as a text file; you need to set its MIME 
type to something like application/pdf so that it will open in a PDF 
viewer when clicked on.  Something like svn propset svn:mime-type 
application/pdf osm_release_25062008.pdf should do it.


Phil.





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Re: [OSM-talk] Google Map Maker - press release

2008-06-26 Thread Steven Le Roux
2008/6/26 Martijn van Exel [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 Op 26 jun 2008, om 00:55 heeft Richard Fairhurst het volgende
 geschreven:

  Hi all,
 
  We've put together a press release with OSM (strictly speaking OSMF)'s
  reaction to Google Map Maker.
 
  You can get it in PDF or RTF format at:
  http://svn.openstreetmap.org/misc/pr_material/releases/
 
  The OSMF board is sending it to a few of the big tech blogs, but in
  true OSM fashion, we'd like to crowdsource the distribution. After
  all, the OSM community has had amazing success in getting publicity
  recently.
 
  So please do:
 
  - download the release
  - translate it into your language



Here is a french release :
http://demo21.ovh.com/96e3e9d35fd3d070667570124efd9a88P/

I am waiting on a svn account to commit it so for those interested in
correcting french version you can get it from ovh DL service...




  - add any useful local statistics (e.g. 1000 roads in Nether Yvebosch
  mapped by one man)
  - add your contact details, if you're happy to be a media spokesperson
  - and send it to media who you think may appreciate it!


I have a good mail contact which could be quoted by many others in france so
I will try it when the french version will be a final pdf version :)



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[OSM-talk] Google Map Maker - press release

2008-06-25 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Hi all,

We've put together a press release with OSM (strictly speaking OSMF)'s  
reaction to Google Map Maker.

You can get it in PDF or RTF format at:
http://svn.openstreetmap.org/misc/pr_material/releases/

The OSMF board is sending it to a few of the big tech blogs, but in  
true OSM fashion, we'd like to crowdsource the distribution. After  
all, the OSM community has had amazing success in getting publicity  
recently.

So please do:

- download the release
- translate it into your language
- add any useful local statistics (e.g. 1000 roads in Nether Yvebosch  
mapped by one man)
- add your contact details, if you're happy to be a media spokesperson
- and send it to media who you think may appreciate it!

To avoid a recipient getting the release from three mappers at once, I  
suggest we co-ordinate here:
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Press/Release_distribution

As ever, any questions, just yell.

cheers
Richard
for OSMF

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Re: [OSM-talk] Google Map Maker - press release

2008-06-25 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi,

 We've put together a press release with OSM (strictly speaking OSMF)'s  
 reaction to Google Map Maker.

I know that dealing with the press requires a certain amount of dumbing
down, but I do object to the phrase:

Volunteers for OpenStreetMap, the Wikipedia-like website which is
mapping the world, say ...

We are not a website.

(I'll put the release up on the .de web site but I'll write of a
project, not a web site.)

Bye
Frederik


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Re: [OSM-talk] Google Map Maker - press release

2008-06-25 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Frederik Ramm wrote:

 I know that dealing with the press requires a certain amount of  
 dumbing
 down, but I do object to the phrase:

 Volunteers for OpenStreetMap, the Wikipedia-like website which is
 mapping the world, say ...

 We are not a website.

Sure. It depends who you're sending the release to, really. If it's a  
tech site then project is good. If it's a national paper then  
website helps them file it with the right correspondent.

cheers
Richard

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