Re: [OSM-talk] New OSM GeoData License Status

2010-02-10 Thread Pieren
On Tue, Feb 9, 2010 at 6:06 PM, Mike Collinson m...@ayeltd.biz wrote: The next step is introduce dual licensing for *new* OpenStreetMap contributors as soon as possible. When they register, they will be asked to license their contributions under both CC-BY-SA and ODbL until and when the ODbL

Re: [OSM-talk] New OSM GeoData License Status

2010-02-10 Thread John Smith
On 10 February 2010 23:17, Pieren pier...@gmail.com wrote: But now, the OSMF should speed-up the transition ! We are many contributors that are reluctant to modify or improve existing data because of the threat that many old or minor contributions will disappear - not because people will

Re: [OSM-talk] New OSM GeoData License Status

2010-02-10 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, John Smith wrote: If the reason for changing licenses is because cc-by isn't applicable for geodata doesn't that mean that essentially the current data can just be converted to ODBL without needing written permission to change it? This has been said about 150 times, by various people who

Re: [OSM-talk] New OSM GeoData License Status

2010-02-10 Thread John Smith
On 10 February 2010 23:45, Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org wrote: Truth is, you can legally be an asshole. I wasn't comment on the ethics of doing so, merely if it could be done legally, the sticking point here is people that won't respond and what to do about their past contributions, not

Re: [OSM-talk] New OSM GeoData License Status

2010-02-10 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Michael Collinson wrote: At the moment, we are trying to address some concerns raised by OSM and OSMF members about the new Contributor Terms. These have been slightly modified and the latest version can be seen here http://www.osmfoundation.org/wiki/License/Contributor_Terms This is much

Re: [OSM-talk] New OSM GeoData License Status

2010-02-10 Thread Stefan de Konink
Op 10-02-10 14:57, Richard Fairhurst schreef: Michael Collinson wrote: At the moment, we are trying to address some concerns raised by OSM and OSMF members about the new Contributor Terms. These have been slightly modified and the latest version can be seen here

Re: [OSM-talk] New OSM GeoData License Status

2010-02-10 Thread Grant Slater
On 10 February 2010 14:09, Stefan de Konink ste...@konink.de wrote: a contributor (whether using a single or multiple accounts) who has edited the Project in any 3 calendar months from the last 6 months (i.e. there is a demonstrated interest over time); and has maintained a valid email

Re: [OSM-talk] New OSM GeoData License Status

2010-02-10 Thread Stefan de Konink
Op 10-02-10 15:19, Grant Slater schreef: On 10 February 2010 14:09, Stefan de Koninkste...@konink.de wrote: a contributor (whether using a single or multiple accounts) who has edited the Project in any 3 calendar months from the last 6 months (i.e. there is a demonstrated interest over

Re: [OSM-talk] New OSM GeoData License Status

2010-02-10 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, Stefan de Konink wrote: Does this mean that an active contributor is such without an OSMF membership? Of course. There are many in OSMF who would actually like to implement this the other way round - anyone who is an active contributor is automatically an OSMF member. But this is not

Re: [OSM-talk] New OSM GeoData License Status

2010-02-10 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, Richard Fairhurst wrote: This is much better. Really pleased to see this. I especially like the you (You) bit. It sounds so ... legal. Bye Frederik ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] New OSM GeoData License Status

2010-02-10 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Stefan de Konink wrote: Is goes 'edited the project' then as far as 'wrote a wikipage', 'submitted a bug', 'edited the source'. Or is exclusively to geo-data? We're only talking about the licensing of geodata here. There's no reasoning for a coder to have a say over data which they haven't

Re: [OSM-talk] New OSM GeoData License Status

2010-02-10 Thread Gervase Markham
On 09/02/10 17:06, Mike Collinson wrote: At the moment, we are trying to address some concerns raised by OSM and OSMF members about the new Contributor Terms. These have been slightly modified and the latest version can be seen here http://www.osmfoundation.org/wiki/License/Contributor_Terms

[OSM-talk] New OSM GeoData License Status

2010-02-09 Thread Mike Collinson
Here is an update from the License Working Group. We feel we've reached a reasonable community consensus to move forward carefully based on results from the OSMF member vote and from the general community poll (below). At the moment, we are trying to address some concerns raised by OSM and

[talk-au] Fwd: [OSM-talk] New OSM GeoData License Status

2010-02-09 Thread John Smith
-- Forwarded message -- From: Mike Collinson m...@ayeltd.biz Date: 10 February 2010 03:06 Subject: [OSM-talk] New OSM GeoData License Status To: annou...@openstreetmap.org, t...@openstreetmap.org Here is an update from the License Working Group. We feel we've reached