Re: [OSM-talk] GeoEye Haiti imagery Ok'd

2010-01-15 Thread Simone Cortesi
On Fri, Jan 15, 2010 at 02:21, Schuyler Erle schuy...@nocat.net wrote:

  http://maps.nypl.org/tilecache/1/haiti/$z/$x/$y.jpg

 You can also use this custom imagery URL in Potlatch:

  http://maps.nypl.org/tilecache/1/haiti/!/!/!.png

 Finally, there's WMS for use in JOSM:

  http://maps.nypl.org/relief/maps/wms/32?request=GetMapversion=1.1.1styles=format=image/pngsrs=epsg:4326exceptions=application/vnd.ogc.se_inimage;

 These URLs are using the exact same image as the gravitystorm.dev.osm
 server, but might be under less load...

Is the image (the nypl) as of now correctly placed if opened in JOSM?

I see many shifted building and somewhere also a problems with the
coastline. is this just older data that need to be moved around or is
there some shift in the imagery?

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Re: [OSM-talk] GeoEye Haiti imagery Ok'd

2010-01-15 Thread John F. Eldredge
You may be seeing the earthquake damage, since it damaged or collapsed 
thousands of buildings, and may well have caused some coastal changes via 
landslides, the raising or lowering of land, etc.

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On Fri, Jan 15, 2010 at 02:21, Schuyler Erle schuy...@nocat.net wrote:

  http://maps.nypl.org/tilecache/1/haiti/$z/$x/$y.jpg

 You can also use this custom imagery URL in Potlatch:

  http://maps.nypl.org/tilecache/1/haiti/!/!/!.png

 Finally, there's WMS for use in JOSM:

  http://maps.nypl.org/relief/maps/wms/32?request=GetMapversion=1.1.1styles=format=image/pngsrs=epsg:4326exceptions=application/vnd.ogc.se_inimage;

 These URLs are using the exact same image as the gravitystorm.dev.osm
 server, but might be under less load...

Is the image (the nypl) as of now correctly placed if opened in JOSM?

I see many shifted building and somewhere also a problems with the
coastline. is this just older data that need to be moved around or is
there some shift in the imagery?

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Re: [OSM-talk] GeoEye Haiti imagery Ok'd

2010-01-15 Thread Simone Cortesi
On Fri, Jan 15, 2010 at 17:07, John F. Eldredge j...@jfeldredge.com wrote:
 You may be seeing the earthquake damage, since it damaged or collapsed 
 thousands of buildings, and may well have caused some coastal changes via 
 landslides, the raising or lowering of land, etc.

so, the image is correctly placed and I can safely move the coast
around to match it?

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Re: [OSM-talk] GeoEye Haiti imagery Ok'd

2010-01-15 Thread John F. Eldredge
I haven't had a chance to compare the image to the map; I am just pointing out 
that some discrepancies are likely to be due to earthquake damage, not mapping 
errors.

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Sent: Jan 15, 2010 10:11 AM

On Fri, Jan 15, 2010 at 17:07, John F. Eldredge j...@jfeldredge.com wrote:
 You may be seeing the earthquake damage, since it damaged or collapsed 
 thousands of buildings, and may well have caused some coastal changes via 
 landslides, the raising or lowering of land, etc.

so, the image is correctly placed and I can safely move the coast
around to match it?

--
-S


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Re: [OSM-talk] GeoEye Haiti imagery Ok'd

2010-01-15 Thread Joseph Reeves
Do you have a link to a bit that isn't right? There's been a lot of
coastline tidying since yesterday - wouldn't want to see us
duplicating effort.

Cheers, Joseph



2010/1/15 Simone Cortesi sim...@cortesi.com:
 On Fri, Jan 15, 2010 at 17:07, John F. Eldredge j...@jfeldredge.com wrote:
 You may be seeing the earthquake damage, since it damaged or collapsed 
 thousands of buildings, and may well have caused some coastal changes via 
 landslides, the raising or lowering of land, etc.

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Re: [OSM-talk] GeoEye Haiti imagery Ok'd

2010-01-15 Thread andrzej zaborowski
2010/1/15 Simone Cortesi sim...@cortesi.com:
 On Fri, Jan 15, 2010 at 17:07, John F. Eldredge j...@jfeldredge.com wrote:
 You may be seeing the earthquake damage, since it damaged or collapsed 
 thousands of buildings, and may well have caused some coastal changes via 
 landslides, the raising or lowering of land, etc.

 so, the image is correctly placed and I can safely move the coast
 around to match it?

There are some imported roads in Haiti from before the earthquake and
some GPS traces, you can compare against them.  Generally I would
rather move the imagery than pre existing stuff, it's a common trap to
align to misaligned imagery.

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Re: [OSM-talk] GeoEye Haiti imagery Ok'd

2010-01-15 Thread Andy Allan
On Fri, Jan 15, 2010 at 4:11 PM, Simone Cortesi sim...@cortesi.com wrote:
 On Fri, Jan 15, 2010 at 17:07, John F. Eldredge j...@jfeldredge.com wrote:
 You may be seeing the earthquake damage, since it damaged or collapsed 
 thousands of buildings, and may well have caused some coastal changes via 
 landslides, the raising or lowering of land, etc.

 so, the image is correctly placed and I can safely move the coast
 around to match it?

The imagery isn't rectified using ground control points obtained via
GPS units, if that's what you're asking, so no, it's not going to be
100% accurate. I'm not certain what was used to rectify it, but I
suspect either Yahoo imagery or OSM data itself.

If you find an area where all the OSM data is off by a fixed amount,
then don't worry about moving the data, move the imagery instead. And
don't worry about it overly much, since anyone on the ground with a
GPS unit will be able to cope with a 5-10m displacement.

Cheers,
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Re: [OSM-talk] GeoEye Haiti imagery Ok'd

2010-01-15 Thread Simone Cortesi
On Fri, Jan 15, 2010 at 17:27, Andy Allan gravityst...@gmail.com wrote:

 The imagery isn't rectified using ground control points obtained via
 GPS units, if that's what you're asking, so no, it's not going to be
 100% accurate. I'm not certain what was used to rectify it, but I
 suspect either Yahoo imagery or OSM data itself.

 If you find an area where all the OSM data is off by a fixed amount,
 then don't worry about moving the data, move the imagery instead. And
 don't worry about it overly much, since anyone on the ground with a
 GPS unit will be able to cope with a 5-10m displacement.

have a look here:
http://www.openstreetmap.org/edit?lat=18.542645lon=-72.337311zoom=18tileurl=http://maps.nypl.org/tilecache/1/haiti/!/!/!.png
(the 2 circles in the center of the image)

or here: http://www.openstreetmap.org/edit?lat=18.546683lon=-72.349488zoom=18
(coastline)

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Re: [OSM-talk] GeoEye Haiti imagery Ok'd

2010-01-15 Thread Micha Ruh
2010/1/15 Simone Cortesi sim...@cortesi.com

 Is the image (the nypl) as of now correctly placed if opened in JOSM?


No!


 is this just older data that need to be moved around or is
 there some shift in the imagery?


No, please don't move around existing data without verifying with other
image layers, try comparing with Yahoo imagery and existing ways (watch for
primary and secondary roads, which where imported earlier), those are
expected to be most correct. Try aligning the nypl images to this.

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Re: [OSM-talk] GeoEye Haiti imagery Ok'd

2010-01-15 Thread Joseph Reeves
or here: http://www.openstreetmap.org/edit?lat=18.546683lon=-72.349488zoom=18

Looks fine to me...


2010/1/15 Simone Cortesi sim...@cortesi.com:
 On Fri, Jan 15, 2010 at 17:27, Andy Allan gravityst...@gmail.com wrote:

 The imagery isn't rectified using ground control points obtained via
 GPS units, if that's what you're asking, so no, it's not going to be
 100% accurate. I'm not certain what was used to rectify it, but I
 suspect either Yahoo imagery or OSM data itself.

 If you find an area where all the OSM data is off by a fixed amount,
 then don't worry about moving the data, move the imagery instead. And
 don't worry about it overly much, since anyone on the ground with a
 GPS unit will be able to cope with a 5-10m displacement.

 have a look here:
 http://www.openstreetmap.org/edit?lat=18.542645lon=-72.337311zoom=18tileurl=http://maps.nypl.org/tilecache/1/haiti/!/!/!.png
 (the 2 circles in the center of the image)

 or here: 
 http://www.openstreetmap.org/edit?lat=18.546683lon=-72.349488zoom=18
 (coastline)

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Re: [OSM-talk] GeoEye Haiti imagery Ok'd

2010-01-15 Thread Andy Allan
On Fri, Jan 15, 2010 at 4:39 PM, Simone Cortesi sim...@cortesi.com wrote:
 On Fri, Jan 15, 2010 at 17:27, Andy Allan gravityst...@gmail.com wrote:

 The imagery isn't rectified using ground control points obtained via
 GPS units, if that's what you're asking, so no, it's not going to be
 100% accurate. I'm not certain what was used to rectify it, but I
 suspect either Yahoo imagery or OSM data itself.

 If you find an area where all the OSM data is off by a fixed amount,
 then don't worry about moving the data, move the imagery instead. And
 don't worry about it overly much, since anyone on the ground with a
 GPS unit will be able to cope with a 5-10m displacement.

 have a look here:
 http://www.openstreetmap.org/edit?lat=18.542645lon=-72.337311zoom=18tileurl=http://maps.nypl.org/tilecache/1/haiti/!/!/!.png
 (the 2 circles in the center of the image)

 or here: 
 http://www.openstreetmap.org/edit?lat=18.546683lon=-72.349488zoom=18
 (coastline)

Right, so the imagery and the OSM data are out of alignment by a few
metres. I'm not sure what answer you want?

Either the imagery is a few metres out, or the data is a few metres
out. I don't know any more than you do. The only way to fix it is for
someone there, with multiple GPSes, to go up and down the roads (and
up and down the hills, too) until we have sufficient GPS traces to
tell which is correct. Or, we do the best with what we've got.

Cheers,
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Re: [OSM-talk] GeoEye Haiti imagery Ok'd

2010-01-15 Thread Paul Houle
Maybe I've missed it but is there any page that's easily accessable 
to OSM outsiders about the Haiti mapping efforts?  This page is full of 
info but intimidating:

http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Haiti#Mapping_the_earthquake_area

I'd really like to see something that looks more like a press release...

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Re: [OSM-talk] GeoEye Haiti imagery Ok'd

2010-01-15 Thread Emilie Laffray
On 15/01/2010 19:43, Paul Houle wrote:
 Maybe I've missed it but is there any page that's easily accessable 
 to OSM outsiders about the Haiti mapping efforts?  This page is full of 
 info but intimidating:

 http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Haiti#Mapping_the_earthquake_area

 I'd really like to see something that looks more like a press release...
   

+1
I have been trying to get people to pick up this page to raise awareness
on how they can help, but a better page would help for the neophyte.

Emilie Laffray



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Re: [OSM-talk] GeoEye Haiti imagery Ok'd

2010-01-15 Thread Patrick Kilian
Hi all,
 Maybe I've missed it but is there any page that's easily accessable 
 to OSM outsiders about the Haiti mapping efforts?  This page is full of 
 info but intimidating:
 
 http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Haiti#Mapping_the_earthquake_area
 
 I'd really like to see something that looks more like a press release...

I created a first stab at that at
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Haiti/Press_info


HTH,
Patrick Petschge Kilian

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Re: [OSM-talk] GeoEye Haiti imagery Ok'd

2010-01-14 Thread Ian Dees
Mikel, I will start downloading/tiling this now.

Andy, if you finish before I post anything let me know.

On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 11:54 AM, Mikel Maron mikel_ma...@yahoo.com wrote:

 OSM has permission to use the imagery, as long as we give credit.
 I suggest using the source tag for this.
 Tiles are needed from the GeoTIFF.
 Details at http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Haiti#GeoEye

 == Mikel Maron ==
 http://mapkibera.org/
 +254 (0) 724899738
 mi...@osmfoundation.org


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Re: [OSM-talk] GeoEye Haiti imagery Ok'd

2010-01-14 Thread Andy Allan
On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 5:59 PM, Ian Dees ian.d...@gmail.com wrote:
 Mikel, I will start downloading/tiling this now.

 Andy, if you finish before I post anything let me know.

The race is on :-) I'm downloading the tiff onto dev.osm.org, and have
everything else waiting to go. Now if only the download was running
quicker...

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Re: [OSM-talk] GeoEye Haiti imagery Ok'd

2010-01-14 Thread Andy Allan
On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 6:25 PM, Andy Allan gravityst...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 5:59 PM, Ian Dees ian.d...@gmail.com wrote:
 Mikel, I will start downloading/tiling this now.

 Andy, if you finish before I post anything let me know.

 The race is on :-) I'm downloading the tiff onto dev.osm.org, and have
 everything else waiting to go. Now if only the download was running
 quicker...

Many thanks to Ian for helping me with this.

Imagery is available at
http://gravitystorm.dev.openstreetmap.org/imagery/haiti/z/x/y.png

Use this link in Potlatch:
http://gravitystorm.dev.openstreetmap.org/imagery/haiti/!/!/!.png

Note that the rectification is bleeding miles off on that geotiff.
I'll see if I can figure out a way to fix that, but for now press
space on potlatch and drag it in from the west. Zooms 19 and 20 are
being generated as I type.

Cheers,
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Re: [OSM-talk] GeoEye Haiti imagery Ok'd

2010-01-14 Thread ce-test, qualified testing bv - Gert Gremmen
Will there be a working wms server for JOSM ??

cetest

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Onderwerp: Re: [OSM-talk] GeoEye Haiti imagery Ok'd

On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 6:25 PM, Andy Allan gravityst...@gmail.com
wrote:
 On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 5:59 PM, Ian Dees ian.d...@gmail.com wrote:
 Mikel, I will start downloading/tiling this now.

 Andy, if you finish before I post anything let me know.

 The race is on :-) I'm downloading the tiff onto dev.osm.org, and have
 everything else waiting to go. Now if only the download was running
 quicker...

Many thanks to Ian for helping me with this.

Imagery is available at
http://gravitystorm.dev.openstreetmap.org/imagery/haiti/z/x/y.png

Use this link in Potlatch:
http://gravitystorm.dev.openstreetmap.org/imagery/haiti/!/!/!.png

Note that the rectification is bleeding miles off on that geotiff.
I'll see if I can figure out a way to fix that, but for now press
space on potlatch and drag it in from the west. Zooms 19 and 20 are
being generated as I type.

Cheers,
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Re: [OSM-talk] GeoEye Haiti imagery Ok'd

2010-01-14 Thread Karl Guggisberg
Perhaps the slippymap plugin could be tweaked to acces the haiti 
imagery. I don't know it well but it seems that it loads tiles addressed 
with (x,y)-coordinates, looks quite similar to what is availabe at 
gravitystorm. And it uses a level, i.e. the zoom level, that is the 
z in gravitiystorms URL? Then it could probably load tiles from  
http://gravitystorm.dev.openstreetmap.org/imagery/haiti/z/x/y.png too.

-- Karl

Am 14.01.2010 21:25, schrieb ce-test, qualified testing bv - Gert Gremmen:
 Will there be a working wms server for JOSM ??

 cetest

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 Aan: Ian Dees
 CC: talk@openstreetmap.org
 Onderwerp: Re: [OSM-talk] GeoEye Haiti imagery Ok'd

 On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 6:25 PM, Andy Allangravityst...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 5:59 PM, Ian Deesian.d...@gmail.com  wrote:
  
 Mikel, I will start downloading/tiling this now.

 Andy, if you finish before I post anything let me know.

 The race is on :-) I'm downloading the tiff onto dev.osm.org, and have
 everything else waiting to go. Now if only the download was running
 quicker...
  
 Many thanks to Ian for helping me with this.

 Imagery is available at
 http://gravitystorm.dev.openstreetmap.org/imagery/haiti/z/x/y.png

 Use this link in Potlatch:
 http://gravitystorm.dev.openstreetmap.org/imagery/haiti/!/!/!.png

 Note that the rectification is bleeding miles off on that geotiff.
 I'll see if I can figure out a way to fix that, but for now press
 space on potlatch and drag it in from the west. Zooms 19 and 20 are
 being generated as I type.

 Cheers,
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Re: [OSM-talk] GeoEye Haiti imagery Ok'd

2010-01-14 Thread Jonas Krückel

Am 14.01.2010 um 21:46 schrieb Karl Guggisberg:

 Perhaps the slippymap plugin could be tweaked to acces the haiti 
 imagery.

I got it to work this way, now waiting for Andy to fix the offset of the 
imagery because unfortunately the slippymap doesn't provide rectifying options 
like the WMS plugin.
We'll update the wiki with tutorials, tags to use etc. as soon as everything 
works.

Jonas

 I don't know it well but it seems that it loads tiles addressed 
 with (x,y)-coordinates, looks quite similar to what is availabe at 
 gravitystorm. And it uses a level, i.e. the zoom level, that is the 
 z in gravitiystorms URL? Then it could probably load tiles from  
 http://gravitystorm.dev.openstreetmap.org/imagery/haiti/z/x/y.png too.
 
 -- Karl
 
 Am 14.01.2010 21:25, schrieb ce-test, qualified testing bv - Gert Gremmen:
 Will there be a working wms server for JOSM ??
 
 cetest
 
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 Van: talk-boun...@openstreetmap.org
 [mailto:talk-boun...@openstreetmap.org] Namens Andy Allan
 Verzonden: donderdag 14 januari 2010 20:20
 Aan: Ian Dees
 CC: talk@openstreetmap.org
 Onderwerp: Re: [OSM-talk] GeoEye Haiti imagery Ok'd
 
 On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 6:25 PM, Andy Allangravityst...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
 On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 5:59 PM, Ian Deesian.d...@gmail.com  wrote:
 
 Mikel, I will start downloading/tiling this now.
 
 Andy, if you finish before I post anything let me know.
 
 The race is on :-) I'm downloading the tiff onto dev.osm.org, and have
 everything else waiting to go. Now if only the download was running
 quicker...
 
 Many thanks to Ian for helping me with this.
 
 Imagery is available at
 http://gravitystorm.dev.openstreetmap.org/imagery/haiti/z/x/y.png
 
 Use this link in Potlatch:
 http://gravitystorm.dev.openstreetmap.org/imagery/haiti/!/!/!.png
 
 Note that the rectification is bleeding miles off on that geotiff.
 I'll see if I can figure out a way to fix that, but for now press
 space on potlatch and drag it in from the west. Zooms 19 and 20 are
 being generated as I type.
 
 Cheers,
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Re: [OSM-talk] GeoEye Haiti imagery Ok'd

2010-01-14 Thread Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 20:46, Karl Guggisberg
karl.guggisb...@guggis.ch wrote:
 Perhaps the slippymap plugin could be tweaked to acces the haiti
 imagery. I don't know it well but it seems that it loads tiles addressed
 with (x,y)-coordinates, looks quite similar to what is availabe at
 gravitystorm. And it uses a level, i.e. the zoom level, that is the
 z in gravitiystorms URL? Then it could probably load tiles from
 http://gravitystorm.dev.openstreetmap.org/imagery/haiti/z/x/y.png too.

Yes, this uses the same URL schema as the NearMap / OOC maps the
slippymap plugin already supports, so it's just a matter of dropping
it into the defaults somewhere I would think.

However the imagery isn't correctly rectified at the moment and JOSM
only allows you to move the WMS backround, not the SlippyMap backround
so this imagery is pretty useless at the moment if you're using JOSM.

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Re: [OSM-talk] GeoEye Haiti imagery Ok'd

2010-01-14 Thread andrzej zaborowski
2010/1/14 ce-test, qualified testing bv - Gert Gremmen g.grem...@cetest.nl:
 Will there be a working wms server for JOSM ??

I tried the gnome-web-photo / webkit approach and came up with this
url earlier, but it's *really* badly off.  You need to enter this as
the wms url for wmsplugin:

html:http://www.openstreetmap.pl/balrog/GeoEye.html?

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Re: [OSM-talk] GeoEye Haiti imagery Ok'd

2010-01-14 Thread Karl Guggisberg
I've added a tile source to the the slippymap plugin too.

- update (or download) the slippymap plugin
- go to Preferences-Slippy Map preferences
- select Haiti Imagery as Tile Source

Regards
Karl

Am 14.01.2010 21:56, schrieb Jonas Krückel:
 Am 14.01.2010 um 21:46 schrieb Karl Guggisberg:


 Perhaps the slippymap plugin could be tweaked to acces the haiti
 imagery.
  
 I got it to work this way, now waiting for Andy to fix the offset of the 
 imagery because unfortunately the slippymap doesn't provide rectifying 
 options like the WMS plugin.
 We'll update the wiki with tutorials, tags to use etc. as soon as everything 
 works.

 Jonas


 I don't know it well but it seems that it loads tiles addressed
 with (x,y)-coordinates, looks quite similar to what is availabe at
 gravitystorm. And it uses a level, i.e. the zoom level, that is the
 z in gravitiystorms URL? Then it could probably load tiles from
 http://gravitystorm.dev.openstreetmap.org/imagery/haiti/z/x/y.png too.

 -- Karl

 Am 14.01.2010 21:25, schrieb ce-test, qualified testing bv - Gert Gremmen:
  
 Will there be a working wms server for JOSM ??

 cetest

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 Aan: Ian Dees
 CC: talk@openstreetmap.org
 Onderwerp: Re: [OSM-talk] GeoEye Haiti imagery Ok'd

 On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 6:25 PM, Andy Allangravityst...@gmail.com
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 On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 5:59 PM, Ian Deesian.d...@gmail.com   wrote:

  
 Mikel, I will start downloading/tiling this now.

 Andy, if you finish before I post anything let me know.


 The race is on :-) I'm downloading the tiff onto dev.osm.org, and have
 everything else waiting to go. Now if only the download was running
 quicker...

  
 Many thanks to Ian for helping me with this.

 Imagery is available at
 http://gravitystorm.dev.openstreetmap.org/imagery/haiti/z/x/y.png

 Use this link in Potlatch:
 http://gravitystorm.dev.openstreetmap.org/imagery/haiti/!/!/!.png

 Note that the rectification is bleeding miles off on that geotiff.
 I'll see if I can figure out a way to fix that, but for now press
 space on potlatch and drag it in from the west. Zooms 19 and 20 are
 being generated as I type.

 Cheers,
 Andy

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Re: [OSM-talk] GeoEye Haiti imagery Ok'd

2010-01-14 Thread John Smith
2010/1/15 Karl Guggisberg karl.guggisb...@guggis.ch:
 Perhaps the slippymap plugin could be tweaked to acces the haiti
 imagery. I don't know it well but it seems that it loads tiles addressed
 with (x,y)-coordinates, looks quite similar to what is availabe at
 gravitystorm. And it uses a level, i.e. the zoom level, that is the
 z in gravitiystorms URL? Then it could probably load tiles from
 http://gravitystorm.dev.openstreetmap.org/imagery/haiti/z/x/y.png too.

I supplied a patch a week or so ago to load custom URLs, but I doubt
it has been incorporated:

http://josm.openstreetmap.de/ticket/3983

However as others have said, the imagery isn't that useful unless the
slippymap plugin allows you to move the bg imagery.

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Re: [OSM-talk] GeoEye Haiti imagery Ok'd

2010-01-14 Thread Karl Guggisberg
This would have come in handy. But as hansendc writes in his comment in 
the trac ticket: it's really easy to add a custom tile source.

BTW: you don't have to submit patches for the slippymap plugin you can 
easily apply them yourself. It is hosted on the OSM SVN, not on the JOSM 
SVN and commit access is far less restrictive on the former than on the 
later.

- get write access
- check out http://svn.openstreetmap.org/applications/editors/josm/
- apply the patch
- update commit.message and plugin.main.version (if necessary) in  
http://svn.openstreetmap.org/applications/editors/josm/plugins/slippymap/build.xml
- run ant dist publish

-- Karl

Am 14.01.2010 22:16, schrieb John Smith:
 2010/1/15 Karl Guggisbergkarl.guggisb...@guggis.ch:

 Perhaps the slippymap plugin could be tweaked to acces the haiti
 imagery. I don't know it well but it seems that it loads tiles addressed
 with (x,y)-coordinates, looks quite similar to what is availabe at
 gravitystorm. And it uses a level, i.e. the zoom level, that is the
 z in gravitiystorms URL? Then it could probably load tiles from
 http://gravitystorm.dev.openstreetmap.org/imagery/haiti/z/x/y.png too.
  
 I supplied a patch a week or so ago to load custom URLs, but I doubt
 it has been incorporated:

 http://josm.openstreetmap.de/ticket/3983

 However as others have said, the imagery isn't that useful unless the
 slippymap plugin allows you to move the bg imagery.



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Re: [OSM-talk] GeoEye Haiti imagery Ok'd

2010-01-14 Thread John Smith
2010/1/15 Karl Guggisberg karl.guggisb...@guggis.ch:
 This would have come in handy. But as hansendc writes in his comment in
 the trac ticket: it's really easy to add a custom tile source.

Only if the URL is in the right format, my patch extends things to
make it even more useful.

 BTW: you don't have to submit patches for the slippymap plugin you can
 easily apply them yourself. It is hosted on the OSM SVN, not on the JOSM
 SVN and commit access is far less restrictive on the former than on the
 later.

I submitted it for the benefit of others, especially those that aren't
able to add their own custom URLs to code and recompile it.

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Re: [OSM-talk] GeoEye Haiti imagery Ok'd

2010-01-14 Thread andrzej zaborowski
2010/1/14 andrzej zaborowski balr...@gmail.com:
 2010/1/14 ce-test, qualified testing bv - Gert Gremmen g.grem...@cetest.nl:
 Will there be a working wms server for JOSM ??

 html:http://www.openstreetmap.pl/balrog/GeoEye.html?

Ok, I'm now offsetting the tiles by the needed vector inside the html
and the offset is bearable now, to use it do this:

1. Have wmplugin installed
2. Go into preferences (F12)
3. Click WMS properties
4. Click Add
5. In Menu Name type GeoEye, in WMS URL paste
html:http://www.openstreetmap.pl/GeoEye.html?;

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Re: [OSM-talk] GeoEye Haiti imagery Ok'd

2010-01-14 Thread Erik Johansson
 Use this link in Potlatch:
 http://gravitystorm.dev.openstreetmap.org/imagery/haiti/!/!/!.png

 Note that the rectification is bleeding miles off on that geotiff.

Is it possible to link to a Potlatch with these tiles loaded by
default? Would be wonderful to be able to post a link saying Help us
map here.


-- 
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Re: [OSM-talk] GeoEye Haiti imagery Ok'd

2010-01-14 Thread andrzej zaborowski
2010/1/14 Erik Johansson e...@kth.se:
 Use this link in Potlatch:
 http://gravitystorm.dev.openstreetmap.org/imagery/haiti/!/!/!.png

 Note that the rectification is bleeding miles off on that geotiff.

 Is it possible to link to a Potlatch with these tiles loaded by
 default? Would be wonderful to be able to post a link saying Help us
 map here.

According to the wiki it's this:
http://www.openstreetmap.org/edit?lat=18.54954lon=-72.3998zoom=16tileurl=http://gravitystorm.dev.openstreetmap.org/imagery/haiti/!/!/!.png
(I have no flash so can't tell you if this works)

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Re: [OSM-talk] GeoEye Haiti imagery Ok'd

2010-01-14 Thread Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 22:54, Erik Johansson e...@kth.se wrote:
 Use this link in Potlatch:
 http://gravitystorm.dev.openstreetmap.org/imagery/haiti/!/!/!.png

 Note that the rectification is bleeding miles off on that geotiff.

 Is it possible to link to a Potlatch with these tiles loaded by
 default? Would be wonderful to be able to post a link saying Help us
 map here.

Yes: 
http://www.openstreetmap.org/edit?lat=18.54954lon=-72.3998zoom=16tileurl=http://gravitystorm.dev.openstreetmap.org/imagery/haiti/!/!/!.png

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Re: [OSM-talk] GeoEye Haiti imagery Ok'd

2010-01-14 Thread Jonas Krückel

Am 14.01.2010 um 23:54 schrieb Erik Johansson:

 Use this link in Potlatch:
 http://gravitystorm.dev.openstreetmap.org/imagery/haiti/!/!/!.png
 
 Note that the rectification is bleeding miles off on that geotiff.
 
 Is it possible to link to a Potlatch with these tiles loaded by
 default? Would be wonderful to be able to post a link saying Help us
 map here.
 

Yes, see the wiki page: 
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Haiti#GeoEye

To trace in Potlatch, launch potlatch with this link: 
http://www.openstreetmap.org/edit?lat=18.54954lon=-72.3998zoom=16tileurl=http://gravitystorm.dev.openstreetmap.org/imagery/haiti/!/!/!.png

- Note that the rectification is bleeding miles off on that geotiff. I'll see 
if I can figure out a way to fix that, but for now press  hold space on 
potlatch and drag it in from the west. 

The rectification problem should be solved soon, it is already in JOSM.

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Re: [OSM-talk] GeoEye Haiti imagery Ok'd

2010-01-14 Thread Joseph Reeves
Is the image server under high load at the moment? I can't seem to get
anything useful out of that link - certainly I can't zoom in far
enough to record some of the detail others obviously have been.

Cheers, Joseph



2010/1/14 Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason ava...@gmail.com:
 On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 22:54, Erik Johansson e...@kth.se wrote:
 Use this link in Potlatch:
 http://gravitystorm.dev.openstreetmap.org/imagery/haiti/!/!/!.png

 Note that the rectification is bleeding miles off on that geotiff.

 Is it possible to link to a Potlatch with these tiles loaded by
 default? Would be wonderful to be able to post a link saying Help us
 map here.

 Yes: 
 http://www.openstreetmap.org/edit?lat=18.54954lon=-72.3998zoom=16tileurl=http://gravitystorm.dev.openstreetmap.org/imagery/haiti/!/!/!.png

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Re: [OSM-talk] GeoEye Haiti imagery Ok'd

2010-01-14 Thread Andy Allan
On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 7:20 PM, Andy Allan gravityst...@gmail.com wrote:

 Note that the rectification is bleeding miles off on that geotiff.
 I'll see if I can figure out a way to fix that, but for now press
 space on potlatch and drag it in from the west.

The rectification has been fixed using the GCP information from Chippy.

Cheers,
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Re: [OSM-talk] GeoEye Haiti imagery Ok'd

2010-01-14 Thread Schuyler Erle
* On 14-Jan-2010 at  7:28PM EST, Andy Allan said:
 On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 7:20 PM, Andy Allan gravityst...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  Note that the rectification is bleeding miles off on that geotiff.
  I'll see if I can figure out a way to fix that, but for now press
  space on potlatch and drag it in from the west.
 
 The rectification has been fixed using the GCP information from Chippy.

The same warped image is being mirrored at NYPL as well:

The imagery is available here:

  http://maps.nypl.org/tilecache/1/haiti/$z/$x/$y.jpg

You can also use this custom imagery URL in Potlatch:

  http://maps.nypl.org/tilecache/1/haiti/!/!/!.png 

Finally, there's WMS for use in JOSM:

  
http://maps.nypl.org/relief/maps/wms/32?request=GetMapversion=1.1.1styles=format=image/pngsrs=epsg:4326exceptions=application/vnd.ogc.se_inimage;

These URLs are using the exact same image as the gravitystorm.dev.osm
server, but might be under less load...

SDE

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