[Tango-L] Right hand lead?

2010-11-22 Thread Sergey Kazachenko
I am visiting San Francisco and got to Gabriel Missé's ( http://www.nytimes.com/2010/08/11/arts/dance/11tango.html ) workshop He was saying that leading with the chest is a later invention and that old milongeros used the right hand lead. If you press the right palm down, that's a signal for the

Re: [Tango-L] Right hand lead?

2010-11-22 Thread Jack Dylan
From: Sergey Kazachenko syarz...@gmail.com I am visiting San Francisco and got to Gabriel Missé's ( http://www.nytimes.com/2010/08/11/arts/dance/11tango.html ) workshop He was saying that leading with the chest is a later invention and that old milongeros used the right hand lead. I've

Re: [Tango-L] Right hand lead?

2010-11-22 Thread Trini y Sean (PATangoS)
I've been the victim of that many times.  It's rather unpleasant.  It was still being taught in the 90's, but I'm glad that it's gone out of fashion. It's useful to remember that the women way back when didn't take classes like the women today.  The attitude of the man was that the women didn't

[Tango-L] Leading with the right hand

2010-11-22 Thread Sergio Vandekier
He was saying that leading with the chest is a later invention and that old milongeros used the right hand lead. Anyone else is familiar with that? Tango has many techniques as it is a complex dance that has many different styles. The technique you use depends on the training you had and

Re: [Tango-L] Right hand lead?

2010-11-22 Thread Jay Rabe
My very first Argentine instructor that came to Portland in 98 (Manuel Ortiz - haven't heard from him since) taught right hand lead. I'm with Trini others that I'm glad it's out of fashion as an emphasis or core principle. That said, I also agree with Sergio (I think) that said that, when

Re: [Tango-L] Right hand lead?

2010-11-22 Thread Tom Stermitz
Oh my aching back! Without taking anything away from those great older dancers, it is more pleasant to dance with a partner who has good technique. Tango is a social dance, and Sergio is correct that there are many techniques. But the hand technique mentioned can be quite harsh and

Re: [Tango-L] Leading with the right hand

2010-11-22 Thread Trini y Sean (PATangoS)
Sergio is quite right about various ways of leading.  But the pleasantness/unpleasantness of the sensation and whether it is appropriate or not is best gauged by the woman.  For example, a woman who moves like a piece of furniture might like a right hand lead.  A woman who moves like an Italian

[Tango-L] Leading with the right hand

2010-11-22 Thread Diane Sosnoski
I had one dance with Gabriel Misse after a class here in San Francisco and his lead was absolutely clear and very easy to follow. I know he was using his hand but I wasn't aware of it. It's very subtle. He's a pleasure to dance with and it's amazing to watch him perform. I've danced with some men

[Tango-L] Leading with the right hand

2010-11-22 Thread Sergio Vandekier
Gabriel Misse http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TQzJCN9hy0c - This is the dancer that was mentioned in the initial posting on leading with the right hand and who teaches to lead using that hand. The same as Carlos Copes who was one of his teachers as a joung boy. Susana Miller

[Tango-L] How tango is sung

2010-11-22 Thread Sergio Vandekier
The Buenos Aires Herald (the English newspaper of B.A.) has a recent article on Tango singers. It also mentions women singers and the period when some of them dressed as men in order to sing. http://www.buenosairesherald.com/BreakingNews/View/30296usg=AFQjCNEg0IrxY9_hFCiR9QoKTNoAFlV9GQ