Digitally Signed Timestamp

2008-03-26 Thread Maxim Masiutin
Hello Tbbeta, You can put a digitally signed timestamp with The Bat! 4.0.18.6 or later. You can find out more about timestamps at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trusted_timestamping Currently, only the internal implementation of S/MIME supports timestamping. Go to S/MIME Preferences

Re[2]: Hello this is my first post

2008-03-26 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
4.0.18.6 still has the AV when you click on the top text area. V You mean the chat window. Hi Vili and welcome. Yes the chat window AV when you click in upper text area. cheers -- Michael J. Sharp [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using the world's best e-mail client: The Bat! Pro v4.0.18.6 on

URL manager

2008-03-26 Thread Vili
Is there any way to edit the blocked/allowed URL list in TB, without having a new mail when the URL manager opens up? (and not editing the XML by hand) -- Vili Current beta is 4.0.18.6 | 'Using TBBETA' information:

Re: URL manager

2008-03-26 Thread Roelof Otten
Hallo Vili, On Wed, 26 Mar 2008 10:37:04 -0400GMT (26-3-2008, 15:37 +0100, where I live), you wrote: V Is there any way to edit the blocked/allowed URL list in TB, without V having a new mail when the URL manager opens up? (and not editing the V XML by hand) Grab an old HTML mail and start

Re[2]: URL manager

2008-03-26 Thread Vili
Hi Roelof, V Is there any way to edit the blocked/allowed URL list in TB, without V having a new mail when the URL manager opens up? (and not editing the V XML by hand) Grab an old HTML mail and start the URL manager from the header pane or when you're really desperate add the URL manager to

Re[2]: URL manager

2008-03-26 Thread Vili
V So, in short, there is NO direct way to open up the URL manager, V right? No. However I didn't say that in my message, because you didn't ask that. :)) Ok. There should be a menu by default in tools to handle URL manager. I check the wish list and submit it if none exists. -- Vili

Re: URL manager

2008-03-26 Thread Gunivortus Goos
Hi Roelof, or when you're really desperate add the URL manager to some toolbar with the customiser. Did that quite some alphas and betas ago. One time it had disappeared from my toolbar. :-( TB is a great program, but it's becoming more and more not-simple. A few weeks ago I gave a workshop

Wish or bug

2008-03-26 Thread Vili
Please check https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=6938 It is a BUG, not a wish. Ritlabs has to think about GENERAL users, not us, geeks. For a v1.0 user by allowing an URL and not seeing the messages IS a bug... -- Vili Current beta

Re: URL manager

2008-03-26 Thread Roelof Otten
Hallo Vili, On Wed, 26 Mar 2008 10:56:34 -0400GMT (26-3-2008, 15:56 +0100, where I live), you wrote: V So, in short, there is NO direct way to open up the URL manager, V right? No. However I didn't say that in my message, because you didn't ask that. -- Groetjes, Roelof

Re: PTV bug

2008-03-26 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Jens, On Tue, 25 Mar 2008 20:41:59 +0100 GMT (26/03/2008, 02:41 +0700 GMT), Jens Franik wrote: But then, I'm also using 4.0.18.6 now. Maybe the bug has been fixed? JF No, sure not, here are the 2 views: JF Please note, that there are always 10 and more Lines under the Picture. JF

Re: Folder View, Marker Bar is not working correctly

2008-03-26 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Jens, On Tue, 25 Mar 2008 21:24:08 +0100 GMT (26/03/2008, 03:24 +0700 GMT), Jens Franik wrote: JF if you go in the Middle of some Messages in Folder View, Message Window JF and you press CTRL-Home you have 2 Marker Bars - the Same with CTRL-End. JF Confirmations? I don't know what a

Re: URL manager

2008-03-26 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Vili, On Wed, 26 Mar 2008 11:13:39 -0400 GMT (26/03/2008, 22:13 +0700 GMT), Vili wrote: V So, in short, there is NO direct way to open up the URL manager, V right? No. However I didn't say that in my message, because you didn't ask that. V :)) Ok. V There should be a menu by default

Re[2]: PTV bug

2008-03-26 Thread Vili
JF No, sure not, here are the 2 views: JF Please note, that there are always 10 and more Lines under the Picture. JF Anlagen: JF1) 20080325-First-Line-away-02.png (4542 Byte, IrfanView PNG File) JF2) 20080325-First-Line-away-01.png (5296 Byte, IrfanView PNG File) I see what you mean.

Re[2]: URL manager

2008-03-26 Thread Vili
V So, in short, there is NO direct way to open up the URL manager, V right? No. However I didn't say that in my message, because you didn't ask that. V :)) Ok. V There should be a menu by default in tools to handle URL manager. I V check the wish list and submit it if none exists. I'll support

Re[3]: PTV bug

2008-03-26 Thread Francis Dhumes
Hello Vili, Wednesday, March 26, 2008 at 16:35:27, you wrote : At us, the right scrollbar appears. At you? I confirm, on Windows XP SP2 and on Vista SP1. -- Regards, Francis mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Message handmade on TB! 4.0.18.6 on Windows XP 2600 AntispamSniper

Re[4]: PTV bug

2008-03-26 Thread Vili
At us, the right scrollbar appears. At you? I confirm, on Windows XP SP2 and on Vista SP1. It appears at everybody on Earth, except Thomas. He has to have a piece of ducktape on the right side of his screen : -- Vili Current

Re: PTV bug

2008-03-26 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Vili, On Wed, 26 Mar 2008 11:35:27 -0400 GMT (26/03/2008, 22:35 +0700 GMT), Vili wrote: V Do this (be sure that Options, Message format, Microed: checked): V - open a new mail to write V - Ctrl+A, Del (delete everything, body is empty, cursor in the 1:1 V position) V - press the down arrow

Re: URL manager

2008-03-26 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Vili, On Wed, 26 Mar 2008 11:43:04 -0400 GMT (26/03/2008, 22:43 +0700 GMT), Vili wrote: V There should be a menu by default in tools to handle URL manager. I V check the wish list and submit it if none exists. I'll support the wish. I have already created my own toolbar icon, V

Re: Folder View, Marker Bar is not working correctly

2008-03-26 Thread Volker Ahrendt
[Reply to: »Jens Franik« · 2008-03-25 · 21:24 h (CET)] Moin, Jens! if you go in the Middle of some Messages in Folder View, Message Window and you press CTRL-Home you have 2 Marker Bars - the Same with CTRL-End. I guess that you mean the Message List, do you? Let's say there are 7 messages

Re[2]: URL manager

2008-03-26 Thread Vili
enough for most people, I'd think. Personally, I access the URL manager often, so a toolbar icon makes sense for me. Why do you access it often? Is there any particular and public reason? -- Vili Current beta is 4.0.18.6 | 'Using

Re[2]: PTV bug

2008-03-26 Thread Vili
V Do this (be sure that Options, Message format, Microed: checked): V - open a new mail to write V - Ctrl+A, Del (delete everything, body is empty, cursor in the 1:1 V position) V - press the down arrow once V At us, the right scrollbar appears. At you? Scrollbar appears. Ok, good. I mean, these

images don't load from https (was:: Wish or bug)

2008-03-26 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Vili, On Wed, 26 Mar 2008 11:17:27 -0400 GMT (26/03/2008, 22:17 +0700 GMT), Vili wrote: V Please check https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=6938 V It is a BUG, not a wish. The https link didn't work from mantris, but could could post a message with these links, so that we can confirm

Re: images don't load from https (was:: Wish or bug)

2008-03-26 Thread Vili
V Please check https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=6938 V It is a BUG, not a wish. The https link didn't work from mantris, but could could post a message with these links, so that we can confirm from TB!? There is no need for further test by now. Ritlabs confirmed the issue and Maxim is

Re: URL manager

2008-03-26 Thread Volker Ahrendt
[Reply to: »Vili« · 2008-03-26 · 16:58 h (CET)] Moin, Vili! enough for most people, I'd think. Personally, I access the URL manager often, so a toolbar icon makes sense for me. Why do you access it often? Is there any particular and public reason? Because he does so – end of story! What

Re: URL manager

2008-03-26 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Vili, On Wed, 26 Mar 2008 11:58:02 -0400 GMT (26/03/2008, 22:58 +0700 GMT), Vili wrote: enough for most people, I'd think. Personally, I access the URL manager often, so a toolbar icon makes sense for me. V Why do you access it often? Is there any particular and public reason? I don't

Re: images don't load from https (was:: Wish or bug)

2008-03-26 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Vili, On Wed, 26 Mar 2008 12:13:39 -0400 GMT (26/03/2008, 23:13 +0700 GMT), Vili wrote: V There is no need for further test by now. Ritlabs confirmed the issue V and Maxim is assigned to fix it. (It happened after my mail.) OK. -- Cheers, Thomas. How long a minute is depends on what

Re[2]: URL manager

2008-03-26 Thread Vili
enough for most people, I'd think. Personally, I access the URL manager often, so a toolbar icon makes sense for me. Why do you access it often? Is there any particular and public reason? Because he does so – end of story! The reason I asked: if there is a reason, we did not face yet,

Re: Digitally Signed Timestamp

2008-03-26 Thread Peter Meyns
Hi Maxim, on Wed, 26 Mar 2008 11:51:40 +0200GMT (26.03.2008, 10:51 +0100GMT here), you wrote: MM You can put a digitally signed timestamp with The Bat! 4.0.18.6 or later. Well, let's see. -- Cheers Peter The Bat! v4.0.18.6 :beta: on WinXP, SP3 RC, 5, 1, build 2600 plenty of POP accounts,

Re: PTV bug

2008-03-26 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Vili, On Wed, 26 Mar 2008 12:00:58 -0400 GMT (26/03/2008, 23:00 +0700 GMT), Vili wrote: I'm not sure where you are going with this, as the bug was that the first line disappears, but I'll go along. Next instruction, please. V Ok, do this then: V - open a new mail to write V - Ctrl+A,

Re: Digitally Signed Timestamp

2008-03-26 Thread Peter Meyns
Hi Peter, on Wed, 26 Mar 2008 17:39:58 +0100GMT I wrote: PM on Wed, 26 Mar 2008 11:51:40 +0200GMT (26.03.2008, 10:51 +0100GMT here), PM you wrote: MM You can put a digitally signed timestamp with The Bat! 4.0.18.6 or later. PM Well, let's see. I saw a window that a time stamp were being

Re: Digitally Signed Timestamp

2008-03-26 Thread Peter Meyns
Hi Peter, on Wed, 26 Mar 2008 17:39:58 +0100GMT I wrote: PM on Wed, 26 Mar 2008 11:51:40 +0200GMT (26.03.2008, 10:51 +0100GMT here), PM you wrote: MM You can put a digitally signed timestamp with The Bat! 4.0.18.6 or later. PM Well, let's see. I see the verification of the sig, but not

Re[2]: Digitally Signed Timestamp

2008-03-26 Thread Vili
on Wed, 26 Mar 2008 11:51:40 +0200GMT (26.03.2008, 10:51 +0100GMT here), you wrote: MM You can put a digitally signed timestamp with The Bat! 4.0.18.6 or later. Well, let's see. Working. -- Vili Current beta is 4.0.18.6 | 'Using

Re: MicroEd: Alt+L adds extra space character

2008-03-26 Thread Vili
does it make any sense, that Alt+L (format left justified) adds an extra space character after some punctuation chars (=!.) ? Example: The original text: This is an example text, simply written for demonstration purposes. It consists of three lines of text; and also has some

Re: Digitally Signed Timestamp

2008-03-26 Thread Peter Meyns
Hi Vili, on Wed, 26 Mar 2008 12:42:22 -0400GMT (26.03.2008, 17:42 +0100GMT here), you wrote: MM You can put a digitally signed timestamp with The Bat! 4.0.18.6 or later. Well, let's see. V Working. Yes, but only for the signature. Maybe it is because I didn't import the Certum certificate

Re[2]: PTV bug

2008-03-26 Thread Vili
V Ok, do this then: V - open a new mail to write V - Ctrl+A, Del (delete everything, body is empty, cursor in the 1:1 V position) V - press e.g. a on the keyboard, there will be a single a char in V the first line V - press the down arrow once V At us, the a (first line) disappears. At you?

Re: Digitally Signed Timestamp

2008-03-26 Thread Peter Meyns
Hi, on Wed, 26 Mar 2008 18:05:32 +0100GMT I wrote: PM on Wed, 26 Mar 2008 12:42:22 -0400GMT (26.03.2008, 17:42 +0100GMT here), PM you wrote: MM You can put a digitally signed timestamp with The Bat! 4.0.18.6 or later. Well, let's see. V Working. PM Yes, but only for the signature. Maybe

Re: Digitally Signed Timestamp

2008-03-26 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Peter, On Wed, 26 Mar 2008 17:55:57 +0100 GMT (26/03/2008, 23:55 +0700 GMT), Peter Meyns wrote: PM I see the verification of the sig, but not the verification of the PM time as in Maxim's message. I'll try it again. I see you signed this at 23:56 - a minute after you posted the message.

Re: Digitally Signed Timestamp

2008-03-26 Thread Peter Meyns
Hi Thomas, on Thu, 27 Mar 2008 00:10:28 +0700GMT (26.03.2008, 18:10 +0100GMT here), you wrote: TF On Wed, 26 Mar 2008 17:55:57 +0100 GMT (26/03/2008, 23:55 +0700 GMT), TF Peter Meyns wrote: PM I see the verification of the sig, but not the verification of the PM time as in Maxim's message.

Re: MicroEd: Alt+L adds extra space character

2008-03-26 Thread Peter Meyns
Hi Peter, on Wed, 26 Mar 2008 17:57:34 +0100GMT (26.03.2008, 17:57 +0100GMT here), you wrote: PH does it make any sense, that Alt+L (format left justified) adds an extra PH space character after some punctuation chars (=!.) ? I haven't observed that as yet, but I'll write a couple of

Re: Digitally Signed Timestamp

2008-03-26 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Peter, On Wed, 26 Mar 2008 18:25:15 +0100 GMT (27/03/2008, 00:25 +0700 GMT), Peter Meyns wrote: PM I see the verification of the sig, but not the verification of the PM time as in Maxim's message. I'll try it again. TF I see you signed this at 23:56 - a minute after you posted the TF

Re: Digitally Signed Timestamp

2008-03-26 Thread Peter Meyns
Hi Thomas, on Thu, 27 Mar 2008 00:28:16 +0700GMT (26.03.2008, 18:28 +0100GMT here), you wrote: TF I see you signed this at 23:56 - a minute after you posted the TF message. PM That was about the time I was connected to he time server, before the PM message was actually signed and sent. In your

Re: Digitally Signed Timestamp - Voyager

2008-03-26 Thread Peter Meyns
Hi Maxim, on Wed, 26 Mar 2008 11:51:40 +0200GMT (26.03.2008, 10:51 +0100GMT here), you wrote: MM You can put a digitally signed timestamp with The Bat! 4.0.18.6 or later. As the option is there in Voyager 4.0.18.4, I'll also try it here. After all, I updated all my certs now, so I use them.

Re: Digitally Signed Timestamp - Voyager

2008-03-26 Thread Peter Meyns
Hi, on Wed, 26 Mar 2008 18:54:07 +0100GMT I wrote: PM on Wed, 26 Mar 2008 11:51:40 +0200GMT (26.03.2008, 10:51 +0100GMT here), PM you wrote: MM You can put a digitally signed timestamp with The Bat! 4.0.18.6 or later. PM As the option is there in Voyager 4.0.18.4, I'll also try it here. PM

The attached files

2008-03-26 Thread Fedya Petrov
Hello The attached files disappear from letters during editing. At sending several files they are united in one with total volume. -- Regards, Fedya Petrov [The Bat! version 4.0.18.6] (OS: Windows XP 5.1.2600 SP 2 Rus) (CPU: AMD Athlon 3200 2.00ghz - Memory: 1504 MB)

Mod: HTML use (was: The attached files)

2008-03-26 Thread Roelof Otten
Hallo bat, On Wed, 26 Mar 2008 20:44:05 +0300GMT (26-3-2008, 18:44, where I live), you wrote: BB The attached files disappear from letters during editing. At sending several BB files they are united in one with total volume. moderator Note: This moderator's interjection is a note to all readers

Re: The attached files

2008-03-26 Thread Roelof Otten
Hallo bat, On Wed, 26 Mar 2008 20:44:05 +0300GMT (26-3-2008, 18:44 +0100, where I live), you wrote: BB The attached files disappear from letters during editing. At sending several BB files they are united in one with total volume. Could you explain more clearly what you mean? I've tried to

Re[2]: Digitally Signed Timestamp

2008-03-26 Thread Maxim Masiutin
Hello Peter, Wednesday, March 26, 2008, 6:55:57 PM, you wrote: I see the verification of the sig, but not the verification of the time as in Maxim's message. I'll try it again. Probably, The Bat! cannot connect to the timestamp server, and the error is not reported to the user. Could you

Re: Digitally Signed Timestamp

2008-03-26 Thread Marek Mikus
Hello all, Wednesday, March 26, 2008, Maxim Masiutin wrote: You can find out more about timestamps at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trusted_timestamping Currently, only the internal implementation of S/MIME supports timestamping. Go to S/MIME Preferences (Options|S/MIME) window and check

Re[2]: Digitally Signed Timestamp

2008-03-26 Thread Maxim Masiutin
Hello Marek, Wednesday, March 26, 2008, 0:31:02, you wrote: can You please add button like Check which will connect to entered host and confirm this connection was established correctly? OK! -- Best regards, Maxim Masiutinmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re[2]: The attached files

2008-03-26 Thread Graham
Hello Roelof, you wrote and made these points on the subject of - The attached files: mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Hallo bat, On Wed, 26 Mar 2008 20:44:05 +0300GMT (26-3-2008, 18:44 +0100, where I live), you wrote: BB The attached files disappear from letters during editing. At sending

Re[2]: URL manager

2008-03-26 Thread Michael J. Sharp
Hi Roelof, GG Hi Roelof, GG TB is a great program, but it's becoming more and more not-simple. Well I only used it since v.3 but maybe it has become more complex. GG What to do to use a spellchecker, using smime or pgp, handling GG templates, macros, etc mighty stuff, but beginners need

Re: PTV bug

2008-03-26 Thread Hendrik Oesterlin
Vili wrote on 27/03/2008 at 03:00:58 +1100 subject PTV bug : Ok, do this then: - open a new mail to write - Ctrl+A, Del (delete everything, body is empty, cursor in the 1:1 position) - press e.g. a on the keyboard, there will be a single a char in the first line - press the down arrow

Re: Folder View, Marker Bar is not working correctly

2008-03-26 Thread Jens Franik
am Mittwoch, 26. März 2008 um 16:55 schrieb Volker Ahrendt: I guess that you mean the Message List, do you? Yes Let's say there are 7 messages in the list and message #4 is selected (highlighted). If you hit [ctrl]+[home], there are two messages highlighted (#1 and #4). If you hit

Re: URL manager

2008-03-26 Thread Jens Franik
am Mittwoch, 26. März 2008 um 16:58 schrieb Vili: enough for most people, I'd think. Personally, I access the URL manager often, so a toolbar icon makes sense for me. Why do you access it often? Is there any particular and public reason? sarkasm Maybe he is looking for, if they improved the

Re: PTV bug

2008-03-26 Thread Jens Franik
am Mittwoch, 26. März 2008 um 17:38 schrieb Thomas Fernandez: It's all a big conspiracy. I feel lightened, they no longer watch me :-) -- Mit freundlichen Grüßen Jens Franik mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Picture of me? X-Rogue http://www.de2all.de/Kr_bat.jpg The Bat! 4.0.18.6 Windows 2000 5.0

Re: PTV bug

2008-03-26 Thread Rick Grunwald
am Mittwoch, 26. März 2008 um 17:38 schrieb Thomas Fernandez: It's all a big conspiracy. I feel lightened, they no longer watch me :-) They can't be after you, it's ME they're after!!! :)) -- Rick Dare we hope? Vote for hope in 08 v4.0.18.6 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2

Re[2]: URL manager

2008-03-26 Thread Kertész Vilmos
Hello Jens, enough for most people, I'd think. Personally, I access the URL manager often, so a toolbar icon makes sense for me. Why do you access it often? Is there any particular and public reason? sarkasm Maybe he is looking for, if they improved the options to handle URL in the

Re: PTV bug

2008-03-26 Thread Roger Phillips
Hello Vili, Wednesday, March 26, 2008, 6:00:58 PM, among other things, you wrote: V Ok, do this then: V - open a new mail to write V - Ctrl+A, Del (delete everything, body is empty, cursor in the 1:1 V position) V - press e.g. a on the keyboard, there will be a single a char in V the first line