Re: Access password
Hello MAU, On Saturday, January 8, 2022 you wrote: M> Hello Jack, M> The password in question is the one sent to me each month by RIT Labs. I'm M> assuming everyone who uses TB! gets these same emails from RIT Labs monthly. M> As Adrian says in his reply to you, I also get a monthly "memberships M> reminder", in my case with passwords for this list and also TBBeta. But these M> passwords are not to be used for any TB account, unless you do want to M> protect the account for unauthorised use. M> Now when I start TB! it opens with my account tree collapsed (it never used M> to do that). When I click on the PLUS sign to expand the account tree TB! M> asks for the password. Entering the password will cause the collapsed account M> tree to expand in all it's glory and everything is back to normal. M> I always close TB! when I'm done and when I go to open TB! again, it opens M> with the account tree collapsed even though I closed TB! with the account tree expanded as I always do. M> That is normal behaviour for any password protected account. Go ahead and remove the password. Well Miguel, removing the password worked. TB! now opens as it had for all these years without having to enter that password. I don't understand why changing the password and then changing it back to what it was originally caused such behavior but here we are. My sincere thanks to you and Adrian both for helping me. -- Regards, Jack Central Alabama USA The Bat! E-Mail Client by Ritlabs version 6.0.12 Windows 10 Home Build 9200 Current version is 9.1.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Access password
Hello Adrian, On Saturday, January 8, 2022 you wrote: AG> Hello Jack, AG> I get a "memberships reminder" every month that has passwords from AG> mailman-ow...@thebat.dutaint.com, but that is not Rit Labs. Those passwords AG> are for if you ever use a web browser to access this tbudl mailing list. Ah! Thank you Adrian. I did not have a recent mailing to see who the actual sender was. Now that you mention it I'm sure you're correct, it does not come from RIT Labs. My apologies to the list. -- Regards, Jack Central Alabama USA The Bat! E-Mail Client by Ritlabs version 6.0.12 Windows 10 Home Build 9200 Current version is 9.1.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Access password
Hello MAU, > As Adrian says in his reply to you, I also get a monthly > "memberships reminder", in my case with passwords for this list and > also TBBeta. But these passwords are not to be used for any TB > account, unless you do want to protect the account for unauthorised use. These passwords are needed, if you want to change you list membership options. See: https://web3.networkexchange.de/cgi-bin/mailman/options/tbudl -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial (Madrid)- Spain) Using The Bat! Version 9.5 (64-bit) Current version is 9.1.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Access password
Hello Jack, > The password in question is the one sent to me each month by RIT Labs. I'm > assuming everyone who uses TB! gets these same emails from RIT Labs monthly. As Adrian says in his reply to you, I also get a monthly "memberships reminder", in my case with passwords for this list and also TBBeta. But these passwords are not to be used for any TB account, unless you do want to protect the account for unauthorised use. > Now when I start TB! it opens with my account tree collapsed (it > never used to do that). When I click on the PLUS sign to expand the > account tree TB! asks for the password. Entering the password will > cause the collapsed account tree to expand in all it's glory and everything > is back to normal. > I always close TB! when I'm done and when I go to open TB! again, > it opens with the account tree collapsed even though I closed TB! > with the account tree expanded as I always do. That is normal behaviour for any password protected account. Go ahead and remove the password. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial (Madrid)- Spain) Using The Bat! Version 9.5 (64-bit) Current version is 9.1.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Access password
Hello Jack, I get a "memberships reminder" every month that has passwords from mailman-ow...@thebat.dutaint.com, but that is not Rit Labs. Those passwords are for if you ever use a web browser to access this tbudl mailing list. Adrian Saturday, January 8, 2022, 7:21:33 PM, you wrote: > The password in question is the one sent to me each month by RIT Labs. I'm > assuming everyone who uses TB! gets these same emails from RIT Labs monthly. Current version is 9.1.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Access password
Hello MAU, On Saturday, January 8, 2022 you wrote: M> Hello Jack, >> Now every time I try to look at my mail, TB insists that I enter my >> account password, after which, everything is displayed normally. M> Excuse me Jack, I may be getting old (I certainly am), but what is the M> purpose of having an account password if you don't want TB to ask for M> it when you want to access it?. >> Anyone have any idea how I can get TB! to stop asking for my >> password every time? M> Why don't you simply delete/remove the password? The password in question is the one sent to me each month by RIT Labs. I'm assuming everyone who uses TB! gets these same emails from RIT Labs monthly. CTRL F12 will bring up the account password. Now when I start TB! it opens with my account tree collapsed (it never used to do that). When I click on the PLUS sign to expand the account tree TB! asks for the password. Entering the password will cause the collapsed account tree to expand in all it's glory and everything is back to normal. I always close TB! when I'm done and when I go to open TB! again, it opens with the account tree collapsed even though I closed TB! with the account tree expanded as I always do. -- Regards, Jack Central Alabama USA The Bat! E-Mail Client by Ritlabs version 6.0.12 Windows 10 Home Build 9200 Current version is 9.1.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Access password
Hello Jack, > I all the years I've used TB! this has never happened. Of course in all those > years I've never changed my account password either. Are you sure that you always had an account password? I'd be quite sure you didn't. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial (Madrid)- Spain) Using The Bat! Version 9.5 (64-bit) Current version is 9.1.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Access password
Hello Jack, > Now every time I try to look at my mail, TB insists that I enter my > account password, after which, everything is displayed normally. Excuse me Jack, I may be getting old (I certainly am), but what is the purpose of having an account password if you don't want TB to ask for it when you want to access it?. > Anyone have any idea how I can get TB! to stop asking for my > password every time? Why don't you simply delete/remove the password? -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial (Madrid)- Spain) Using The Bat! Version 9.5 (64-bit) Current version is 9.1.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Access password
Hello TBUDL'ers, A few days ago I received an email from a very dear friend requesting an urgent favor. She was in need of five gift cards ASAP and couldn't get them herself as she was suffering from a sinus infection. She is the type of person who would put herself in the position of needing presents for friends post haste. Her request was not out of the ordinary. I immediately went to my local CVS pharmacy and bought five Apple gift cards. Never having done this before I had no idea how to get them to her. However, her instructions were to photograph the cards and send her the photographs. Not a problem. I photographed each card separately and emailed the photos to her by replying to her original request. A grievous mistake as you'll see. After a few hours I decided to call her to see if she had received the photos. As soon as she realized what I had done, she freaked out and said she had been hacked. Sure enough, when I looked at the sender's email address originally requesting the cards, it wasn't hers. I had fallen for a spoof email and sent negotiable photos worth $500 to bad actors. I immediately called Apple and the agent checked and saw that the cards had not been used yet so he was able to void all 5 cards. So the cards are no longer good and cannot be used. Hooray for my side! But I was out $500 and further checking with CVS Pharmacy and the credit card company (Visa) proved fruitless. The money was gone and could not be reimbursed. I made a stupid mistake and it cost me. Because of this I decided to change the "access password" on my TB! account, not necessarily out of fear that I might be in danger of hacking as well but more because I hadn't changed that password in years. After changing the password I realized I should have changed my email password instead of my TB! account password. So I put my account password back to what it was originally and changed my email password. Now every time I try to look at my mail, TB insists that I enter my account password, after which, everything is displayed normally. Anyone have any idea how I can get TB! to stop asking for my password every time? I all the years I've used TB! this has never happened. Of course in all those years I've never changed my account password either. Sometime later still licking my wounds I wondered how idiots like me could be automatically protected from this type of crime. It occurred to me that if TB! were to compare all incoming email addresses to my address book, those for which there wasn't a match could be displayed in red. Agreed, most of them wouldn't match and would be flagged in red but I wouldn't recognize or care about the sender anyway. Those would be discarded by me as they always are. But if I did recognize the sender and their address was displayed in red, I would know immediately something was amiss. Had this feature been implemented I would have seen that my friend's address was flagged which would have caused me to check it and I would have seen that it was not my friend's real address. If anyone knows how to get TB! to stop requiring my password every time I try to view my mail I'd sure appreciate knowing the fix. And I'd like to know what you think about automatically flagging unknown addresses. -- TIA, Jack LaRosa Using TB! 6.0.12 OS: Win 10 v6 Build: 9200 Current version is 9.1.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: voyager - account access password
Hallo mark, On Tue, 26 Jul 2011 15:49:30 -0400GMT (26-7-2011, 21:49 , where I live), you wrote: MD when using 'the bat', it's possible to set an account access MD password by way of the account menu set access password or ctrl-f12. MD unless i missed something, it doesn't seem possible to set an MD account access password in voyager (currently using 5.0.18.3). Can't be done with Voyager, nor with TB running OTFE. I guess it wsas considered redundant. Why should you set passwords on the accounts when you set a password on the whole config. -- Groetjes, Roelof Avoid off-topic warnings -- put the moderator on your twitlist. http://www.voormijalleen.nl/ The Bat! 5.0.20.1 Windows Vista 6.0 Build 6002 Service Pack 2 5 pop3 accounts, 3 imap account OTFE disabled Quad Core 2.4GHz 4 GB RAM pgpxIocc0K6l7.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 4.2.42 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: voyager - account access password
Hi On Wednesday 27 July 2011 at 3:50:04 PM, in mid:639965048.20110727164...@otten.tv, Roelof Otten wrote: Why should you set passwords on the accounts when you set a password on the whole config. An example might be some accounts shared with your partner and some not shared. -- Best regards MFPAmailto:expires2...@ymail.com Think for yourself. Otherwise you have to believe what other people tell you. Using The Bat! v4.0.38 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Current version is 4.2.42 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: voyager - account access password
On 7/27/2011, you wrote: Hi On Wednesday 27 July 2011 at 3:50:04 PM, in mid:639965048.20110727164...@otten.tv, Roelof Otten wrote: Why should you set passwords on the accounts when you set a password on the whole config. An example might be some accounts shared with your partner and some not shared. precisely .. thanks! -- regards, .. m.davidson Current version is 4.2.42 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
voyager - account access password
hello all, when using 'the bat', it's possible to set an account access password by way of the account menu set access password or ctrl-f12. unless i missed something, it doesn't seem possible to set an account access password in voyager (currently using 5.0.18.3). does anyone know how to do this or if the functionality is missing, why it was left out of voyager? -- regards, m.davidson Current version is 4.2.42 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Delete Access Password
Hello TBUL, I set an access password for my account but now I want to delete it? Can someone please tell me how to do this? Thanks. -- Best regards, Tim The Bat! v4.2.36.4 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current version is 4.2.23 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Delete Access Password
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Hi On Tuesday 1 June 2010 at 5:02:22 PM, in mid:1886035940.20100601090...@cox.net, Tim Hamm wrote: Hello TBUL, I set an access password for my account but now I want to delete it? Can someone please tell me how to do this? Thanks. When in the relevant account, select Account | Set Access Password from the main program window. Then delete the contents of both password boxes. - -- Best regards MFPAmailto:expires2...@ymail.com Reality is nothing but a collective hunch. Using The Bat! v4.0.38 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iQCVAwUBTAVFBaipC46tDG5pAQqKtAP9Fh5fcIaOeNYXCUoHxkV5adHRklNsHY+F Ipi4TTt0hj+DGZ5SmaTJwrH9HTIPIy1DnWQBe6zHV4AN/icohGH8XGOTzIV04VrP oj5/C12mrlRxwELvsZCaanN0le1p3/yflpSMokYo5yVVjzE4kBkdvX1l+9UlnS7u mcGcY8fjDAY= =vqgh -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 4.2.23 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Delete Access Password
Hello MFPA, Tuesday, June 1, 2010, 10:36:19 AM, you wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Hi On Tuesday 1 June 2010 at 5:02:22 PM, in mid:1886035940.20100601090...@cox.net, Tim Hamm wrote: Hello TBUL, I set an access password for my account but now I want to delete it? Can someone please tell me how to do this? Thanks. When in the relevant account, select Account | Set Access Password from the main program window. Then delete the contents of both password boxes. Thank you. Sometimes the obvious to just too obvious. -- Best regards, Timmailto:timh...@cox.net Current version is 4.2.23 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Set Access Password is missing after upgrade
Hallo Victor, On Mon, 9 Feb 2009 23:00:00 -0500GMT (10-2-2009, 5:00 +0100, where I live), you wrote: VS Thanks This is kind of what I've already tried. VS I've renamed the account in question's folder and started The Bat! VS It recreated the account folder and asked for a password. Close TB Rename the groups.cfg and groups.efg files Start TB abd try it again -- Groetjes, Roelof IBM: I've Been Misled http://www.voormijalleen.nl/ The Bat! 4.1.11.3 Windows Vista 6.0 Build 6001 Service Pack 1 3 pop3 accounts OTFE enabled Quad Core 2.4GHz 4 GB RAM pgpsB9vRgFP4u.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 4.1.11 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Set Access Password is missing after upgrade
Hi Roelof, Thanks for bearing with me :) On Mon, 9 Feb 2009 23:00:00 -0500GMT (10-2-2009, 5:00 +0100, where I live), you wrote: VS Thanks This is kind of what I've already tried. VS I've renamed the account in question's folder and started The Bat! VS It recreated the account folder and asked for a password. Close TB Rename the groups.cfg and groups.efg files Start TB abd try it again I'm assuming group.cfg would be non-encrypted version, since I don't have it? Renamed group.efg - absolutely no effect :( Can you think of anything else? Thanks! -- Best regards, Victor Current version is 4.1.11 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Set Access Password is missing after upgrade
Hi, I'm a long time reader of this group but rarely write. Mostly after upgrades. Problematic ones that's it :) So here I am. I've just upgraded to 4.1.11 from 4.0.14 (I know, I know...) Now on The Bat! start I'm getting the prompt for account name and password. I used to have one some time ago but disabled it with 4.0.14 by resetting the password to empty one if I remember correctly. I've switched to using OTFE so don't need account-level protection anymore. But now this prompt is back and it does want me to enter an old password, not the blank one. After I enter one The bat! loads, but I can't see Set Access Password anywhere. Networks Administration doesn't have any accounts/groups either. When I'm checking the menu/toolbar setup - the button for password is there. But not on the menu or toolbar. I don't have any other accounts password protected (as far as I remember), this used to be a master (administrator) account long time ago. I just want to disable this prompt, remove the password! Any clues on how to do it? Thanks in advance! -- Best regards, Victor Current version is 4.1.11 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Set Access Password is missing after upgrade
Hallo Victor, On Mon, 9 Feb 2009 21:51:00 -0500GMT (10-2-2009, 3:51 +0100, where I live), you wrote: VS I've just upgraded to 4.1.11 from 4.0.14 (I know, I know...) Now VS on The Bat! start I'm getting the prompt for account name and VS password. I used to have one some time ago but disabled it with VS 4.0.14 by resetting the password to empty one if I remember VS correctly. I've switched to using OTFE so don't need account-level VS protection anymore. The password for an account option should not be working with OTFE, so apparently you ran into a bug. The only way to get rid of the password would be to create a new account and move your messages there. In case you don't know your old password anymore, try to rename the account.efn to account.efn.old (do the same for any existing account.cfg and .cfn files) only for your password protected account of course and do this with TB shut down. You will need to create the account again and you'll be asked what to do with the current files in the matching directory. (Keep them.) That's the only thing I can think of... -- Groetjes, Roelof What youth deemed crystal, age finds was dew. http://www.voormijalleen.nl/ The Bat! 4.1.11.3 Windows Vista 6.0 Build 6001 Service Pack 1 3 pop3 accounts OTFE enabled Quad Core 2.4GHz 4 GB RAM pgpqYBwyBqNEX.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 4.1.11 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Set Access Password is missing after upgrade
Hi Roelof, VS I've just upgraded to 4.1.11 from 4.0.14 (I know, I know...) Now VS on The Bat! start I'm getting the prompt for account name and VS password. I used to have one some time ago but disabled it with VS 4.0.14 by resetting the password to empty one if I remember VS correctly. I've switched to using OTFE so don't need account-level VS protection anymore. The password for an account option should not be working with OTFE, so apparently you ran into a bug. The only way to get rid of the password would be to create a new account and move your messages there. In case you don't know your old password anymore, try to rename the account.efn to account.efn.old (do the same for any existing account.cfg and .cfn files) only for your password protected account of course and do this with TB shut down. You will need to create the account again and you'll be asked what to do with the current files in the matching directory. (Keep them.) That's the only thing I can think of... Thanks This is kind of what I've already tried. I've renamed the account in question's folder and started The Bat! It recreated the account folder and asked for a password. The password turned out to be blank this time. But still... I have to type in an account name every time. Any ideas on how to get rid of this box altogether? As I said I don't even have an option to set access password and from my vague memories of what Administration and Networking dialog box should look like (haven't opened it for ages) it's missing some areas there too - related to user groups etc. Would you guys have any other ideas I could try? I have big (and my last!) hopes for such a great bunch of bright minds in one mailing list! :) Thanks again! -- Best regards, Victor Current version is 4.1.11 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Could I set an Access Password for the Common Folder ?
I create a Common Folder, named as Archive. Could I set an Access Password for the Common Folder ? The Bat! v1.62CE on Windows 2000 SP3. Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Could I set an Access Password for the Common Folder ?
Hello Zimoo, I create a Common Folder, named as Archive. Could I set an Access Password for the Common Folder ? No you can't. But you can always define a pseudo account to be used as your archive and set an access password to that account. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v1.61 Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Could I set an Access Password for the Common Folder ?
Hi Miguel, Sunday, February 23, 2003, 6:22:50 AM, you wrote: No you can't. But you can always define a pseudo account to be used as your archive and set an access password to that account. That's a very good suggestion. I'm planning on setting up the same thing on my work computer. As a side note, I originally set up my archive folders within each account (in a folder separate from the Inbox), but it really slowed down opening and closing The Bat, even with compression. I found that moving these archive folders to a dummy account *really* sped things up. -- Best regards, Kim Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: The Bat! - bug report - an easy way to crack access password
Hello, Wednesday, October 13, 1999, You wrote: Hi Alexander Tuesday, October 12, 1999, you wrote: AD 5) Start TB! - it will not ask you anymore for password... Note, ADthat .msb file is still encrypted. No, it isn't. Simply copy "encrypted" .msb file into any other folder (i.e. in account without password), start The Bat and you can read messages stored in this "encrypted" g file. Not a good work. This feature will be in version 2 of TB. 2All: By the way, it looks that some macros are now case sensitive (look into header, I must rewrite From and Reply-to address, To field is unchanged). In message header macros must be typing in uppercase, but in message body mustn't (my address bottom is inserted correctly). I have the same problem in "HEADER" of "REPLY" template only :-((( Bye Marek Mikus Using the best The Bat! 1.36 under the worst Windows 95 4.0 Build B Intel Celeron 266 MHz, 32 MB -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, click below and send the generated message. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
