Re: Version3 ?!

2004-09-02 Thread Thorvald Neumann
Hæ! Thursday, September 2, 2004, 02:26, Robin Anson wrote: I think I will go back to 2.11 as soon as I have a moment to reinstall it. 2.12 continually stops working for periods of up to a minute, and doesn't always show the content of folders when they are selected. Can't confirm with

Re: thebat v3 and unicode

2004-09-02 Thread Thorvald Neumann
Hæ! Thursday, September 2, 2004, 06:44, WL wrote: Is unicode in in header/body of the email supported as well? I'm trying out v3 right now, but it doesn't seem like unicode characters are displaying correctly. No, it is not. I guess I am complaining about the miserable Unicode-support since

Re: Alternative emailers

2004-09-02 Thread Roland Burger
Hi Thorvald, on Thursday, September 2, 2004 at 01:04 you wrote in message mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] among others: Hæ! Thursday, September 2, 2004, 00:47, dAniel hAhler wrote: mahogany Thunderbird Becky Pocomail Bloomba Foxmail Add Mulberry (especially when you use IMAP). And add Marlin!

Re: Alternative emailers

2004-09-02 Thread Alexander S. Kunz
On Thu, 2 Sep 2004 08:27:33 +0200, Roland Burger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Add Mulberry (especially when you use IMAP). And add Marlin! ...oh, and add... ;-) Maybe not complete, but a useful resource for more mail clients than you've ever heard about is:

Re: Ritlabs *is* a business...

2004-09-02 Thread Clive Taylor
I'm on a bit of a jihad against the really stupid use of smilies, LOL, etc. Wow. Can I join your club please? -- Clive T Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html

Re: Ritlabs *is* a business...

2004-09-02 Thread Alexander S. Kunz
On Thu, 02 Sep 2004 07:15:18 +0100, Clive Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm on a bit of a jihad against the really stupid use of smilies, LOL, etc. Wow. Can I join your club please? LOL! ...whooops... SCNR ;-) -- Greetings, Alexander Kunz

Re: v3.0 b1

2004-09-02 Thread Alexander S. Kunz
On Wed, 1 Sep 2004 14:45:13 +0200, Peter Fjelsten [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: cursory read Does that mean cursing, while reading... ? ;-) -- Greetings, Alexander Kunz Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information:

Re: [thebat] Re: v3.0 b1

2004-09-02 Thread Leif Gregory
Hello Dennis, Wednesday, September 1, 2004, 9:46:13 PM, you wrote: DWG Top posting good. Bottom posting annoying! My thoughts exactly Only in reverse... -- Leif Gregory (TB list moderator and fellow end user). Tagline of the day: A baseball pitcher's arm rotates from the shoulder at

Mod: Lost and found

2004-09-02 Thread Marck D Pearlstone
Hi T'Buddlers, Okay - so now you're all in trauma over the release of 3.0, here's another bombshell for y'all. It is with a heavy heart that I write to you to formally wave a very, *very* fond farewell to Allie Martin. He is stepping down as list moderator from today. Allie has been moderating

Re: thebat v3 and unicode

2004-09-02 Thread Roland Burger
Hi WL, on Thursday, September 2, 2004 at 06:44 you wrote in message mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] among others: Hello, all. Just looking through the feature list on ritlabs.com and browsing through the mailing list. I see a reference to the anti-virus API now supports unicode in version 2.12. Is

Re: thebat v3 and unicode

2004-09-02 Thread Edvinas Matiuaitis
Hello Roland, On Thursday, September 2, 2004, at 08:31, you wrote: RB UNICODE is not supported in TB though it is promised more than 2 1/2 years! Right. First they promised it for 2.0, then they promised for 2.20 (big changes were promised). For version 3.xx they haven't promised unicode

Re: How to Move to the new filter system - For new users.

2004-09-02 Thread Dean
Hello MAU, Wednesday, September 1, 2004, 5:31:28 PM, you wrote: : M Why did I mention the *.SRX and *.SRB files? If, for whatever reason you M wanted to go back to v2.xx, all you would have to do is replace the M thebat.exe in the installation directy with the corresponding one of the M

Re[4]: [thebat] Re: v3.0 b1

2004-09-02 Thread Mark Partous
Hello Dennis, Thursday, September 2, 2004, 5:49:26 AM, you wrote: DWG Does The Bat 3 still have the connection center malfunction? Don't have any problem with it. What's malfunctioning for you? -- Best Wishes, Mark using The Bat! 3.0

Re[5]: [thebat] Re: v3.0 b1

2004-09-02 Thread Jeff Gaines
Hello Jeff, On Wednesday, September 1, 2004, 1:30:58 PM, you wrote: [snipped] The 'classic' root is to install Eudora, import your Bat mail into Eudora then use O/L to import from Eudora. It's long winded but it works. [snipped] Sorry but having had a good night's sleep I had to correct

Re: What do I do with this MSI file?

2004-09-02 Thread MAU
Hello Peter, M No, 'professional' is 15MB because it includes the International pack. Uhh?? The pro-msi _is_ somewhat like 8.5MByte. Unless something went terribly wrong... Today, after a good night sleep, I have to say your are right. I wonder where did I get the 15MB from. Sorry if I

Re: The msi installer is giving me a problem under Xandros

2004-09-02 Thread MAU
Hello Anne, Well most of it does... I have _no_ glyphs at all... not in toolbars, account tree, sorting office, editor... nowhere! Glad to hear you got it working. And don't worry about the glyphs, they're ugly ;-) -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.0

Re: Viewing w/Proportional Fonts, but Sending w/Plain Text

2004-09-02 Thread MAU
Hello Kathy, I was just wondering ... if I choose to view my messages in a proportional font (Tahoma) and use the HTML/Windows Editor, this just affects my viewing, but not sending of messages, right? Right. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.0

Re: Mod: Lost and found

2004-09-02 Thread Perry Nelson
Hi Marck, Wednesday, September 1, 2004, 10:14:34 AM, you wrote: MDP Please welcome Roelof Otten to the role of newbie-mod! He has been MDP one of the most polite and helpful members of these lists over the MDP years and has certainly earned our respect for that. We hope that MDP he will deserve

Reg key lead time

2004-09-02 Thread admin
How long have others had to wait for a reg key after paying for v3 upgrade? It's been two days now and I've not had anything. -- Marten Gallagher Annery Kiln Web Design www.annerykiln.co.uk Using The Bat! 3.0 with POPFile 0.21.1 on Windows XP 5.1

Re: Reg key lead time

2004-09-02 Thread Alexander S. Kunz
On Thu, 2 Sep 2004 10:32:00 +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How long have others had to wait for a reg key after paying for v3 upgrade? It's been two days now and I've not had anything. At least the ritlabs.com Webserver appears to be dead. Its answering to ping requests, but thats it... --

Bat! download page down?

2004-09-02 Thread John Phillips
Hi Bat! Fans, Database query error. Try again later. Maybe Ritlabs are putting up some info on 3.0? Been like this since I first tried at 15:00 Australian Eastern Time; now approx 19:42 -- John Phillips, Sydney, Australia Using The Bat! v3.0 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 A

Re: Mod: Lost and found

2004-09-02 Thread Alexander S. Kunz
On Thu, 2 Sep 2004 05:31:00 -0400, Perry Nelson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: He has already earned mine. An excellent choice in my opinion. Congratulations Roelof! You dare replying to a MOD: mail on list? ;-) *SCNR* Really, good decision. -- Greetings, Alexander Kunz

Re: Reg key lead time

2004-09-02 Thread John Phillips
Hi Marten, On Thu, 2 Sep 2004, at 10:32:00 [GMT+0100] (which was 19:32:00 Australian Eastern Time) you wrote: How long have others had to wait for a reg key after paying for v3 upgrade? Mine arrived in about 6 hours; purchased a couple of days ago early morning Sydney time. -- John

Re:Mod: Lost and found

2004-09-02 Thread Perry Nelson
Hi Alexander, Thursday, September 2, 2004, 5:42:59 AM, you wrote: ASK You dare replying to a MOD: mail on list? ;-) *SCNR* Fools rush in and all that. -- Regards, Perry Using The Bat! v2.12.00 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2

Re: Ritlabs *is* a business...

2004-09-02 Thread Cory
On Wed, 1 Sep 2004 13:29:31 +0100, Nick Dutton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'd bet that this is where their real money comes from, not in keeping a (vocal) few of the faithful happy. They are a business after all. You might be quite right. I'm afraid they've been too much influenced by the emerging

Re: Reg key lead time

2004-09-02 Thread Mark Partous
Hello admin, Thursday, September 2, 2004, 11:32:00 AM, you wrote: aacu How long have others had to wait for a reg key after paying for v3 aacu upgrade? aacu It's been two days now and I've not had anything. Half a minute? A minute? Or was it two? It arrived almost simultanously with the

problems after going from v3 to 2.12

2004-09-02 Thread Dave Mellors
Hi, Having tried v3 I went back to v2.12 but now seem to have problems with unread counts on my folders. I have a virtual folder which shows unread messages in a number of selected folders. If I read a message in the virtual folder it seems that intermittently the unread count and possibly the

Re: move a mail to another folder - takes 10+ seconds?

2004-09-02 Thread Alexander S. Kunz
Hello Samson, 02-Sep-2004 07:59, you wrote: i know. but that seems to be a limitation of thebat and cannot be improved shortly (i guess they are all working on 3.0 and who cares this) Well, I would. Apparently, the NFS is based on the filtering technique of the VF's (at least it looks very

Re: V3 home Thumbs up

2004-09-02 Thread Cory
On Thu, 2 Sep 2004 01:35:47 +0100, Ben Allen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ... to fix the bugs that exist and implement the features that you want? If that first thing had only happened over the last two years... -- Happy flappin'! Corne' (aka Cory, The Batdmin)

Re: To Allie

2004-09-02 Thread Allie Martin
Joseph N., [JN] wrote: I missed your initial post, Allie. I'm sorry to see you go. Thanks much for being one of the Pillars of Batdom. Thanks Joe and thanks to all who expressed similarly kind words of appreciation and goodwill!! They are all deeply appreciated. -- -= Allie =- The Bat!™

Re: Version3 ?!

2004-09-02 Thread Robin Anson
On Thu 2 September 2004, 16:19:04 +1000, Thorvald Neumann wrote: I think I will go back to 2.11 as soon as I have a moment to reinstall it. 2.12 continually stops working for periods of up to a minute, and doesn't always show the content of folders when they are selected. Can't confirm with

Re: Tenure as List Moderator Ends

2004-09-02 Thread Allie Martin
Ben Allen, [BA] wrote: I read this sentence a few times and i couldn't get over you saying official. This led me to the conclusion that you are going to become a rogue trouter. Or maybe even a trouter for hire... Nope. Not to worry. :) No more trouting from me. I trout only officially.

Re: Reg key lead time

2004-09-02 Thread admin
How long have others had to wait for a reg key after paying for v3 upgrade? It's been two days now and I've not had anything. And two emails, one yestreday am and one last night have gone completely unanswered. Anyone any suggestions as to what I can do? -- Marten Gallagher Annery Kiln Web

Re: Alternative emailers (was: [thebat] Re: v3.0 b1)

2004-09-02 Thread Szabolcs Péter
Hello TBUDLers, On Thu, 2 Sep 2004 00:47:27 +0200, dAniel hAhler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyone got any other suggestions for mail clients ? This is my list-to-test.. mahogany Thunderbird Becky Pocomail Bloomba Foxmail I switched to google's GMAIL some weeks ago. Found it very

Re: Version3 ?!

2004-09-02 Thread Thorvald Neumann
Hæ! Thursday, September 2, 2004, 10:25, Robin Anson wrote: No, unfortunately it appears to be a problem unique to me. However I cannot find what about my system causes these VERY annoying problems, and they didn't exist in 2.11. So since I can't find a solution, I will go back to 2.11. Did

Comments on the current proposal for a fair and professional license policy for TB!

2004-09-02 Thread Cory
Dear TB! developers, You are kindly requested to take note of both parts of this message: first a comment on the recent upgrade, second a proposal for a more professional licensing policy. As for the recent announcement of the new version upgrade policy, there's been little positive comments in

Tried 3.0 - Now back on 2.12

2004-09-02 Thread Lawrence Johnson
I waited and waited while TB3.0 tried to connect to my mailserver. Nothing happened. TB3.0 appeared to be stuck. I killed it (because you can't exit TB while accessing mailserver) and tried again. Same thing. TB3.0 hangs while accessing mailserver. Loaded TB2.12 and mail downloaded just

Re: Reg key lead time

2004-09-02 Thread M i c C u l l e n
On Thursday, September 2, 2004 @ 7:43:19 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [snips] It's been two days now and I've not had anything. admin And two emails, one yestreday am and one last night have gone admin completely unanswered. Likewise. admin Anyone any suggestions as to what I can do? Hope

Re: Alternative emailers (was: [thebat] Re: v3.0 b1)

2004-09-02 Thread Thorvald Neumann
Hæ! Thursday, September 2, 2004, 14:05, Szabolcs Péter wrote: I switched to google's GMAIL some weeks ago. But there are certainly privacy issues (e.g. read http://gmail-is-too-creepy.com/). I have not followed this subject closely, because I certainly do not want to store my emails on a

Re[2]: Reg key lead time

2004-09-02 Thread Mark Partous
Hello M, Thursday, September 2, 2004, 2:25:05 PM, you wrote: It's been two days now and I've not had anything. admin And two emails, one yestreday am and one last night have gone admin completely unanswered. MicCullen Likewise. admin Anyone any suggestions as to what I can do? MicCullen

Re: The msi installer is giving me a problem under Xandros

2004-09-02 Thread Mica Mijatovic
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 ***^\ ._)~~ ~( __ _o Was Thu, 2 Sep 2004, at 00:43:19 +0100, @ @ when Anne wrote: I have _no_ glyphs at all... not in toolbars, account tree, sorting office, editor... nowhere! Obviously the transparency thing that has been used

Atypical usage of smileys machine was and gone: Re: Version3 ?!

2004-09-02 Thread Mica Mijatovic
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 ***^\ ._)~~ ~( __ _o Was Thu, 2 Sep 2004, at 10:26:40 +1000, @ @ when Robin Anson wrote: the only benefit of 2.12 (as I recall) is to show smileys that I think are a waste of time and effort and sender's photos in the header that

Re: Alternative emailers (was: [thebat] Re: v3.0 b1)

2004-09-02 Thread Giampaolo Bellavite
Il 02/09/2004 alle 1.10, Allen Day [EMAIL PROTECTED] ha scritto: In my opinion, the closest thing to a good alternative for TB!--good POP and IMAP support -- not as actively developed. That may be a good or a bad thing, depending on how you like your bugs--fixed and then neglected, or

Re: [thebat] Re: v3.0 b1

2004-09-02 Thread Dave Gorman
Mark Partous wrote: DWG Does The Bat 3 still have the connection center malfunction? Don't have any problem with it. What's malfunctioning for you? I don't know what Deniss's problem with the CC is, but for me, if I abort/delete all tasks in the CC, I am unable to close TB as it says tasks are

Re: Alternative emailers

2004-09-02 Thread Darrin Rich
On 9/2/2004 11:27 PM my time, Roland wrote: mahogany Thunderbird Becky Pocomail Bloomba Foxmail Hi Roland, My favorite right now http://email.about.com/cs/winclientreviews/gr/nelson_email_o.htm -- Darrin WinXP Home Service Pack 1 Tbat! 2.12.00 If debugging is the process of

Re[2]: [thebat] Re: v3.0 b1

2004-09-02 Thread Michael Schneider
DWG Does The Bat 3 still have the connection center malfunction? Don't have any problem with it. What's malfunctioning for you? I don't know what Deniss's problem with the CC is, but for me, if I abort/delete all tasks in the CC, I am unable to close TB as it says tasks are still

Re: v3.0 b1

2004-09-02 Thread Peter Fjelsten
Dave, On 02-09-2004 14:05, you [DG] wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: DG I don't know what Deniss's problem with the CC is, but for me, if I DG abort/delete all tasks in the CC, I am unable to close TB as it says DG tasks are still active. Clicking Abort on the can't close dialog DG does no good

Re[2]: [thebat] Re: v3.0 b1

2004-09-02 Thread Stuart Cuddy
Hello Dave, Thursday, September 2, 2004, 7:05:30 AM, you wrote: DG Mark Partous wrote: DWG Does The Bat 3 still have the connection center malfunction? Don't have any problem with it. What's malfunctioning for you? DG I don't know what Deniss's problem with the CC is, but for me, if I DG

Re: Alternative emailers (was: [thebat] Re: v3.0 b1)

2004-09-02 Thread Lars Slter
This is my list-to-test.. mahogany Thunderbird Becky Pocomail Bloomba Foxmail But non of these is able to handle a relative path to the userprofile folder. Or has there been enhancements in the last time? -- With best regards Lars Sölter mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] The Bat! Version

Re: Tried 3.0 - Now back on 2.12

2004-09-02 Thread Lars Slter
The same problem happend here too. To circumvent this, you must disable the automatic mailchacking and for one time check the mail via the icons in the toolbar (only one accout at a time). After that, all should work correct again. -- With best regards Lars Sölter mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Reg key lead time

2004-09-02 Thread M i c C u l l e n
On Thursday, September 2, 2004 @ 8:55:42 PM, Mark Partous wrote: [snips] admin And two emails, one yestreday am and one last night have gone admin completely unanswered. MicCullen Likewise. admin Anyone any suggestions as to what I can do? MicCullen Hope seems to be the only thing... Mark Is

Re: How to Move to the new filter system - For new users.

2004-09-02 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello MAU, On Thu, 2 Sep 2004 00:31:28 +0200 GMT (02/09/2004, 05:31 +0700 GMT), MAU wrote: M You don't need to do anything to 'transfer', just install v3.0 and the M first time you start TB it will convert your OFS filters to NFS (New M Filtering Systems). Are the filters converted flawlessly?

Re: What do I do with this MSI file?

2004-09-02 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello MAU, On Wed, 1 Sep 2004 23:07:20 +0200 GMT (02/09/2004, 04:07 +0700 GMT), MAU wrote: Does one have to be connected to the internet while running the msi file? M No, just for downloading it :) But Lawrence said: What am I supposed to do with this 15,341 byte file,

Re[3]: Problems With Spam Filters and Filters

2004-09-02 Thread MikeD (3)
Hello Scott, Wednesday, September 1, 2004, 6:53:44 PM, you wrote: SS Howdy, SS I deleted all traces of old filters in the sorting office, as well as SS all traces of any anti-spam plugin. (Including the new version) SS I then noticed that my filters started working again. SS That one problem

Re[3]: [thebat] Re: v3.0 b1

2004-09-02 Thread MikeD (3)
Hello Dennis, Wednesday, September 1, 2004, 10:46:13 PM, you wrote: DWG Top posting good. Bottom posting annoying! I think we are in the minority, thought sigh -- Best regards, MikeDmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v2.12.00 on Windows ME 4.90 Build 3000

Re: Will BayesIt 0.6.0 work with TheBat! 2.12.00?

2004-09-02 Thread MikeD (3)
Hello Dan, Wednesday, September 1, 2004, 5:35:40 PM, you wrote: DG BayesIt's history.txt says: DG Version 0.6.0 - this version is written to be included in DG The Bat! 3.0 distribution DG Is anyone successfully using BayesIt 0.6.0 with TheBat! 2.12.00? I have not tried it. I just got

Re: How to Move to the new filter system - For new users.

2004-09-02 Thread MAU
Hello Thomas, M You don't need to do anything to 'transfer', just install v3.0 and the M first time you start TB it will convert your OFS filters to NFS (New M Filtering Systems). Are the filters converted flawlessly? Mine were and are, so far, working without problems. But YMMV. Take

Re: [thebat] Re: v3.0 b1

2004-09-02 Thread M i c C u l l e n
On Thursday, September 2, 2004 @ 9:56:34 PM, MikeD (3) wrote: [snips] DWG Top posting good. Bottom posting annoying! MikeD I think we are in the minority, thought sigh Yes, linear thought is just SO 20th century :-) -- cheers, Mic (reply address works) This whole mad cow thing has me

Re: Mod: Cut mark (was: TheBat! downloading very slowly)

2004-09-02 Thread Leif Gregory
Hello Jim, Wednesday, September 1, 2004, 12:31:03 PM, you wrote: JM Do you realize the constant moderator interjections are more JM annoying than the behavior you are trying to address? JM Can't you send these to the individual involved, rather than to JM the whole list? Please read the list

Re: How to Move to the new filter system - For new users.

2004-09-02 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello MAU, On Thu, 2 Sep 2004 16:05:51 +0200 GMT (02/09/2004, 21:05 +0700 GMT), MAU wrote: Are the filters converted flawlessly? M Mine were and are, so far, working without problems. But YMMV. Take M precautions so that you can downgrade or wait a few day (weeks?). After M all, if v3.0 was

Re[2]: Alternative emailers (was: [thebat] Re: v3.0 b1)

2004-09-02 Thread joeo
Hi  This is my list-to-test..   mahogany Thunderbird Becky Pocomail Bloomba Foxmail Do any of the above (excluding Pocomail) have templates? -- Best Regards, Joe O Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information:

Re: Will BayesIt 0.6.0 work with TheBat! 2.12.00?

2004-09-02 Thread Andre Wichartz
Hello Dan, On 2 Sep 2004 at 18:35:40 -0400 GMT [00:35 CEST] you wrote: DG BayesIt's history.txt says: DG Version 0.6.0 - this version is written to be included in DG The Bat! 3.0 distribution DG Is anyone successfully using BayesIt 0.6.0 with TheBat! 2.12.00? Yes. -- Cheers,

Re[2]: Reg key lead time

2004-09-02 Thread admin
On Thursday, September 2, 2004 @ 8:55:42 PM, Mark Partous wrote: [snips] admin And two emails, one yestreday am and one last night have gone admin completely unanswered. MicCullen Likewise. I've phoned CIFNet (trans-atlantic call) and they claim to be trying to deal with a huge backlog of v3

Bayesit and IMAP

2004-09-02 Thread Sean H.
Is the new version of Bayesit (bundled with TB3.0) supposed to work with IMAP, or is it POP only? -- Sean H. Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html

Indexing messages

2004-09-02 Thread Ravi
Does anyone know of a program that indexes TB's email messages for ultra-quick searching? Similar to the way X1 Find indexes messages for Outlook. Thanks. -- Ravi (http://shell-shocked.org) Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL'

Re[3]: Reg key lead time

2004-09-02 Thread admin
On Thursday, September 2, 2004 @ 8:55:42 PM, Mark Partous wrote: [snips] admin And two emails, one yestreday am and one last night have gone admin completely unanswered. MicCullen Likewise. I've phoned CIFNet (trans-atlantic call) and they claim to be trying to deal with a huge backlog of

Re: Indexing messages

2004-09-02 Thread Zonnet
ON Thursday, September 2, 2004, 5:22:31 PM, you wrote: R Does anyone know of a program that indexes TB's email messages for ultra-quick R searching? R Similar to the way X1 Find indexes messages for Outlook. Hi Ravi, TB! does its own indexing and is therefore very quick already. It doesn't

Re: Indexing messages

2004-09-02 Thread Ravi
It doesn't make an index of the content of the e-mail only of the headers. This is more what I was looking for. -- Ravi (http://shell-shocked.org) Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information:

Re: Reg key lead time

2004-09-02 Thread Ron Secord
Admin [A] wrote: How long have others had to wait for a reg key after paying for v3 upgrade? Mine arrived within a couple hours. As stated somewhere in the transaction, RitLabs should send the key within 48 hours. If it's been longer than that, I would email them and see if it was an

Re[2]: Reg key lead time

2004-09-02 Thread Ron Secord
Ron Secord [RS] wrote: Mine arrived within a couple hours. As stated somewhere in the transaction, RitLabs should send the key within 48 hours. If it's been longer than that, I would email them and see if it was an over-sight or something. Oops, should have read the rest of the thread 1st...

Re: Indexing messages

2004-09-02 Thread Dan Grunberg
Thu, 2 Sep 2004 15:22:31 + (UTC) (11:22 AM EDT here) Ravi wrote: Does anyone know of a program that indexes TB's email messages for ultra-quick searching? Similar to the way X1 Find indexes messages for Outlook. Possibly you could create a virtual folder that would hold all of your email

Simple questions (I hope!) about version 3..

2004-09-02 Thread Martyn Drake
Hi, A couple of (I hope) easy questions to answer. Still trialing The Bat! version 3. Firstly, just how do I get to view remote images in HTML documents as it isn't doing so at the moment and I'll be darned if I can find a switch/toggle that allows me to do this. Secondly - is there a way to

TB v3.0 is still a Beta whether RL likes it or not

2004-09-02 Thread MAU
Hello all, - I didn't like the way and rush Ritlabs threw the new release on us. - I didn't like the lack of communication. - I didn't mind paying for the upgrade and I think I was one of the first to do so. But after a couple of days of using v3.0 for my normal work and reading the reports in

Re: Tenure as List Moderator Ends

2004-09-02 Thread Mary Bull
Hello Allie! On Thursday, September 02, 2004, 6:07 AM, you wrote: AM Nope. Not to worry. :) No more trouting from me. I trout only AM officially. You can place full focus on the likes of Roelof now. ;) AM Again, thanks for your comments and to those who have similarly AM expressed their

Re: How to Move to the new filter system - For new users.

2004-09-02 Thread MAU
Hello Thomas, Thanks. I will watch/lurk for a while. See the message I've just sent with Subject: TB v3.0 is still a Beta whether RL likes it or not. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.0 Current

Re: Simple questions (I hope!) about version 3..

2004-09-02 Thread Alexander S. Kunz
Hello Martyn Drake, 02-Sep-2004 18:07, you wrote: A couple of (I hope) easy questions to answer. Still trialing The Bat! version 3. Firstly, just how do I get to view remote images in HTML documents as it isn't doing so at the moment and I'll be darned if I can find a switch/toggle that

The Bat! v. 3.0

2004-09-02 Thread Mary Bull
Hello fellow tbudl subscribers! I have just now bought, downloaded, and installed The Bat! v. 3.0. Among the first 20 messages that I received with it, I found my RITLabs thank-you letter, with the registration key. Everything went with great ease. My filters are working perfectly. My big screen

Welcome, although belated

2004-09-02 Thread Mary Bull
Hello Roelof! I want to give you a belated but warm welcome as a Moderator on the TB! lists. As I wrote to Allie, though not in these exact words, everything going on yesterday really had my head spinning! I promise to do my best to behave. Note that I even resist putting a smile emoticon here.

Re: The Bat! v. 3.0

2004-09-02 Thread Thomas Martin
Hello Mary, on Thursday, 2. September 2004, at 11:32:41 [GMT -0500] you wrote regarding The Bat! v. 3.0: I have just now bought, downloaded, and installed The Bat! v. 3.0. Among the first 20 messages that I received with it, I found my RITLabs thank-you letter, with the registration key.

Re: The Bat! v. 3.0

2004-09-02 Thread Mary Bull
Hello Thomas! On Thursday, September 02, 2004, 11:48 AM, you wrote: TM This version will be in the future the former SecureBat!! Version. You TM are using eToken. Thanks for your nice reply. Could you explain what eToken is? Should I disable it? If so, how? -- Best regards, Mary The Bat! 3.0

Re: TB v3.0 is still a Beta whether RL likes it or not

2004-09-02 Thread Nick Dutton
Hello Miguel, Thursday, September 2, 2004, 5:24:02 PM, you wrote: M One thing is finding a bug here and there... They could start with the installer! In a moment of weakness, during a lull in my afternoon, I was going to have a peek at v3. I backed everything up, God knows there have been

Re: Tried 3.0 - Now back on 2.12

2004-09-02 Thread Prezes
Hello, Thursday, September 2, 2004, 2:19:40 PM, you wrote: LJ I waited and waited while TB3.0 tried to connect to my LJ mailserver. Nothing happened. TB3.0 appeared to be stuck. I LJ killed it (because you can't exit TB while accessing mailserver) LJ and tried again. Same thing. TB3.0 hangs

Re[2]: Will BayesIt 0.6.0 work with TheBat! 2.12.00?

2004-09-02 Thread MikeD (3)
Hello Andre, Thursday, September 2, 2004, 10:08:58 AM, you wrote: AW Hello Dan, AW On 2 Sep 2004 at 18:35:40 -0400 GMT [00:35 CEST] you wrote: DG BayesIt's history.txt says: DG Is anyone successfully using BayesIt 0.6.0 with TheBat! 2.12.00? AW Yes. FWIW, I see on the beta list that 0.6.1 is

Re: Bayesit and IMAP

2004-09-02 Thread MikeD (3)
Hello Sean, Thursday, September 2, 2004, 10:19:58 AM, you wrote: SH Is the new version of Bayesit (bundled with TB3.0) supposed to work SH with IMAP, or is it POP only? It *SHOULDN'T* matter. But, as with all things, YMMV. -- Best regards, MikeDmailto:[EMAIL

Re: TB v3.0 is still a Beta whether RL likes it or not

2004-09-02 Thread Mary Bull
Hello Nick! On Thursday, September 02, 2004, 11:57 AM, you wrote: ND I wish that I could adopt Mary's positive approach (and I suspect ND she's a much happier person than for it!), but I'm suffering a mild ND form of cumulative disappointment with TB! Nothing terminal I suppose, ND but sad all

Re: TB v3.0 is still a Beta whether RL likes it or not

2004-09-02 Thread MAU
Hello Mary, Let me offer you and Miguel both a :batbeer: ? You can view it at http://www.PCWize.com/thebat/PCWSmileys.php since I have no doubt that both of you are in PTV Mode. :) I appreciate the beer, but please don't force me to make comments about smileys ;-) -- Best regards, Miguel

Re: The Bat! v. 3.0

2004-09-02 Thread Neal Laugman
Hi Mary and tbudl, MB I have just now bought, downloaded, and installed The Bat! v. 3.0. MB Among the first 20 messages that I received with it, I found my MB RITLabs thank-you letter, with the registration key. I received my registration in about 20 minutes. MB Everything went with great ease.

Re: TB v3.0 is still a Beta whether RL likes it or not

2004-09-02 Thread Mary Bull
Hello MAU! On Thursday, September 02, 2004, 12:21 PM, you wrote: MB Let me offer you and Miguel both a :batbeer: ? M I appreciate the beer, but please don't force me to make comments about M smileys ;-) Not needed. I understand and respect the point of view of those who wish they'd never been

Re: The Bat! v. 3.0

2004-09-02 Thread Thomas Martin
Hello Mary, on Thursday, 2. September 2004, at 11:52:07 [GMT -0500] you wrote regarding The Bat! v. 3.0: Thanks for your nice reply. Could you explain what eToken is? Should I disable it? If so, how? eToken or Aladin is a hardware solution for encrypting in this case message databases. Alos

Re: The Bat! v. 3.0

2004-09-02 Thread Mary Bull
Hello Neal! On Thursday, September 02, 2004, 12:27 PM, you wrote: NL There was a suggestion made by Cory: NL [EMAIL PROTECTED] NL that may be worth considering for RitLabs. This is the arrangement I NL have with Sparx http://www.sparxsystems.com.au/ for there excellent NL Enterprise Architect.

Re: new msg under TB! or TB! on top of new msg

2004-09-02 Thread dAniel hAhler
Hello TBUDL, on Wed, 1. Sep 2004 at 19:36:44 -0400 Jan Rifkinson wrote: I must have missed a setting somewhere but this is a PITA. How do I change it? TIA Probably a 3.0.0 bug - but have never heard about it. Are you using mouse x-hover or sth the like that changes focus on windows? --

RE:The Bat! v. 3.0

2004-09-02 Thread Jurgen Haug
Hello Mary, Thursday, September 2, 2004, 7:43:23 PM, you wrote: I appreciate the thoughtful comments from you and from Cory. I really don't know much about running a business--I've always been either an employee or a customer or both. :) I do hope that in the future those making the

Re: TB v3.0 is still a Beta whether RL likes it or not

2004-09-02 Thread Stuart Cuddy
Hello MAU, Thursday, September 2, 2004, 11:24:02 AM, you wrote: M I don't know if my contribution to beta testing the NFS was good, bad, M valuable or not. It certainly took quite a bit of my time, although I M enjoyed it. But if RITLabs wants to count on me... new Beta cycle. It was spot on

Re: TB v3.0 is still a Beta whether RL likes it or not

2004-09-02 Thread Alexander S. Kunz
Hello MAU, 02-Sep-2004 19:21, you wrote: I appreciate the beer, but please don't force me to make comments about smileys ;-) I heard that characters like : and - and ) (and their relatives) actually do like the freedom of imagination they leave on the user side, rather than being pressed into

Re: The Bat! v. 3.0

2004-09-02 Thread Mary Bull
Hello Jurgen! On Thursday, September 02, 2004, 1:01 PM, you wrote: MB I do hope that in the future those making the decisions will find ways MB to keep the beta-testers (to whom I myself am forever grateful) better MB informed and happier. JH you know I really pity the programmers, because I

Re: Alternative emailers (was: [thebat] Re: v3.0 b1)

2004-09-02 Thread Costas Papadopoulos
Pegasus Mail is another fine email client. Freeware too! -- Best regards, Costas Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html

Re[2]: The Bat! v. 3.0

2004-09-02 Thread Neal Laugman
Hi Jürgen, JH you know I really pity the programmers, because I think JH they're doing a great job, and they get kicked in their butts just JH as much as us users. Isn't that the truth! And IT people in larger organizations, too...the computer guy (person;) is /always/ in trouble. Expectations

Re: TB v3.0 is still a Beta whether RL likes it or not

2004-09-02 Thread MAU
Hello Mary, And I do agree with you that v. 3.0 is a beta (to quote Shakespeare, A rose by any other name would smell as sweet--or not, as the case may be. g ). In Spain we say: A monkey dressed in silk is still a monkey. It's marketing. The company has to live, financially. I'm happy to

Re: The Bat! v. 3.0

2004-09-02 Thread MAU
Hello Jurgen, you know I really pity the programmers, because I think they're doing a great job, and they get kicked in their butts just as much as us users. Fully agree. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v2.12.00

Re: TB v3.0 is still a Beta whether RL likes it or not

2004-09-02 Thread MAU
Hello Stuart, It was spot on as far as I can see. Thanks Stuart, I owe you a beer ;-) -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v2.12.00 Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information:

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