Re: [time-nuts] Any Isotemp OCXO107-10 Info?

2014-03-14 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
Since I had it out, I decided to let it run and this morning I measured the EFC characteristic. In my case perfect frequency is at 4.025V and the sensitivity is 0.2317 PPM/Volt so the design EFC range is probably +/- 1PPM -- Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20 p...@freebsd.org

Re: [time-nuts] Any Isotemp OCXO107-10 Info?

2014-03-14 Thread Ed Palmer
The specs that I found here: http://web.archive.org/web/20010302193035/http://www.isotemp.com/ocxo107.htm say the electrical EFC range is 0.1 PPM, but that's for the version with the D/A converter. I can't find any hint about our version. My unit is starting to settle down. Yesterday

Re: [time-nuts] PLL Math Question

2014-03-14 Thread Magnus Danielson
Hi Bob, On 12/03/14 19:26, Bob Stewart wrote: Hi Magnus, Thanks very much for this response! It will be very easy to add the exponential averager to my code and do a comparison to the moving average. I have no experience with PI/PID. I'll have to look over the literature I have on them

Re: [time-nuts] PLL Math Question

2014-03-14 Thread Magnus Danielson
On 12/03/14 20:25, Hal Murray wrote: mag...@rubidium.dyndns.org said: Exponential averger takes much less memory. Consider this code: x_avg = x_avg + (x - x_avg) * a_avg; Where a_avg is the time-constant control parameter. Also note that if a_avg is a power of 2, you can do it all with

Re: [time-nuts] PLL Math Question

2014-03-14 Thread Magnus Danielson
Hi Bob, On 12/03/14 23:16, Bob Stewart wrote: x_avg = x_avg + (x - x_avg) * a_avg; Hi again Magnus, In fact, I just post-processed some data using that formula in perl. It looks great, and will indeed save me code and memory space. And, it can be a user variable, rather than hard-coded.

Re: [time-nuts] PLL Math Question

2014-03-14 Thread Magnus Danielson
On 13/03/14 07:35, Daniel Mendes wrote: Em 13/03/2014 01:35, Bob Stewart escreveu: Hi Daniel, re: FIR vs IIR I'm not a DSP professional, though I do have an old Smiths, and I've read some of it. So, could you give me some idea what the FIR vs IIR question means on a practical level for this

Re: [time-nuts] PLL Math Question

2014-03-14 Thread Magnus Danielson
On 13/03/14 13:57, Jim Lux wrote: On 3/12/14 10:06 PM, Chris Albertson wrote: On Wed, Mar 12, 2014 at 9:13 PM, Daniel Mendes dmend...@gmail.com wrote: This is a FIR x IIR question... moving average = FIR filter with all N coeficients equalling 1/N exponential average = using a simple rule to

Re: [time-nuts] PLL Math Question

2014-03-14 Thread Magnus Danielson
On 14/03/14 00:39, Bob Camp wrote: Hi Either grab a math pack (there are several for the PIC) or go to C. Timing at the Time Nuts level is about precision. We need *lots* of digits past the binary point :) Indeed. Throwing bits at the problems is relatively cheap today. Besides, you don't

Re: [time-nuts] PLL Math Question

2014-03-14 Thread Dan Kemppainen
Bob, Just been reading along, enjoying the conversation... I've written a lot of hand coded assembly. Some of it very similar to what you are doing here now. (Although, a different processor family) I really didn't want to switch to C for anything, since code generated is 'bloated'. That being

Re: [time-nuts] Mains frequency

2014-03-14 Thread Jim Sanford
Hal: Here's a url for the task-force report: http://energy.gov/oe/downloads/us-canada-power-system-outage-task-force-final-report-implementation-task-force I live near Pittsburgh, PA. I think there is ZERO interconnection between PJM (grid operator we're on) and yours (forgot the name).