What is it you need? Do you really need an HP-5065 r to do jet need a good
10MHz standard? What is the intended use/
On Sat, Jun 30, 2012 at 2:19 PM, J. L. Trantham jlt...@att.net wrote:
Edgardo,
I would think something in the $500 range for a working unit would be worth
considering,
Leap second capture of Lady Heather screen.
Select 720p to see it properly:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DbvMZikqtI4
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im rebooting a couple hundred linux servers right now, it caught us by
surprise and boofed our production environment tonight. i walk in from a
road trip across texas (carbine class) and in my door my phone starts
ringing. well
I spent it taking screengrabs of Twitter:
http://phk.freebsd.dk/hacks/leap_20120630/index.html
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Nice list. You clearly have the disease. (Where do you find the time? :-) )
I think the first, Z3810A, was meant to be Z3801A, correct?
On 6/30/2012 7:32 PM, BD Systems Inc. wrote:
In testing and loggging the Z3810A, Z3805A, Z3815A, Z3816A, 59503A, 58503B and
the 59551A GPS Receivers, all
Hi
There are a lot of pathogenic firmware releases for some of the CW parts…
Bob
On Jun 28, 2012, at 7:59 PM, saidj...@aol.com wrote:
Yes, I am sure, depends on the firmware revision and configuration
settings. Don't want to name any names here though. Secondary firmware can
detect,
Sweating without power, trying to keep a 1942 generator running enough
to keep the fridge running (required a mid day magneto tear down)...
In between dips in a kiddie pool and 'saving' beers from getting too
hot of course..
Brent
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Watched on my Thunderbolt's external monitor:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/y5951au8lukljot/LeapSecond20120630.3gp
Mike Blazer
On 6/30/2012 7:07 PM, Mark Sims wrote:
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A 61 second minute...
Just curious - can GPS handle a fall back second?
On 07/01/2012 12:50 AM, Esa Heikkinen wrote:
Leap second capture of Lady Heather screen.
Select 720p to see it properly:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DbvMZikqtI4
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Yes it can have a fall back second although the probability is small, the
Earth's rotation rate would have had to increase. But the deciding committee
allowed for both + and - leap seconds.
John WA4WDL
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From: Chuck Forsberg WA7KGX N2469R
We spent our leapsecond reading books by kerosene lamp as the
power failure continued...
And, no, the power failure wasn't caused by the leapsecond, but
rather a very strong thunderstorm that came roaring through parts
of Maryland trees down everywhere.
... Well, unless Mother Nature is yet
Dear Chris,
One of my needs: A dependable Rb source. HP appeals to me as most of
my electronics lab equipment comes from that house. I have seen
numerous other Rb sources here and there but would like to afford an
HP unit. I know I can go to the party driving either a 60's VW beattle
or
I was dinning at an Argentinean restaurant with my wife and some
friends of her.
Armed with a 3G Internet equipped iPad and sharing the story with the
people at the table. Good food, good company and the opportunity to
shine publicly (at least for a leap second), explaining time keeping
I made the most of it by grabbed the HV terminal on a power right at Leapsecond
and in that moment watched my whole life pass before me.
Thomas Knox
From: xe1...@amsat.org
To: time-nuts@febo.com
Date: Sun, 1 Jul 2012 11:05:55 -0500
Subject: Re: [time-nuts] So, how did you spend your
Well, one of my reference standards - and the most expensive - worked
through the leap second thus:-
58
59
00
01
02
etc.
To be fair though, it predates the Leap Second by a few years and
there are no applicable firmware updates. For those who are
interested, it was manufactured by Wm. Thompson
On Sun, Jul 1, 2012 at 8:39 AM, Edgardo Molina xe1...@amsat.org wrote:
Dear Chris,
One of my needs: A dependable Rb source. HP appeals to me as most of my
electronics lab equipment comes from that house. I have seen numerous other
Rb sources here and there but would like to afford an HP
Chris,
The HP 5065A is one of the best Rb ever made.
/tvb (iPhone4)
On Jul 1, 2012, at 21:12, Chris Albertson albertson.ch...@gmail.com wrote:
On Sun, Jul 1, 2012 at 8:39 AM, Edgardo Molina xe1...@amsat.org wrote:
Dear Chris,
One of my needs: A dependable Rb source. HP appeals to me as
Hi,
From: Brendan Minish ei6iz.bren...@gmail.com
Dealing with servers and this issue
Mine worked OK. But, to avoid the next we could
make a habit of sneezing toward West!
Bye,
Jean-Louis
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All,
I have uploaded the video of the leap second on the Datum ExacTime 6000 unit at:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bJWGBTXLWeAfeature=plcp
Cheers,
Bert, VE2ZAZ
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On 01/07/2012 01:07, Mark Sims wrote:
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Shopping.
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Shhh, I was hoping he'd succeed in his apparent attempt to drive 5065A
prices down, so I can round up a few more for myself!
$78 is a great price for an LPRO-101, certainly, but you can't compare them
to the HP rubidiums. The latter's specs (as well as its secs) are vastly
better.
Tom,
Chris,
The HP 5065A is one of the best Rb ever made.
/tvb (iPhone4)
Have you or any other list member had the opportunity to take measurements
on the ElmerPerkin/EGG Space rubidiums (in a lab environment)?
http://www.excelitas.com/Downloads/DTS_Frequency_Standards_RAFS.pdf
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John Miles said the following on 07/01/2012 05:18 PM:
The real problem with the 5065A is that it represents the end of the line
for most noncommercial users. There are no further upgrade possibilities
for taus out to several hours -- not even the best commercial cesium
standards -- until you
Well, the list isn't called Time Nuts for nothing.
Mike
On 7/1/2012 11:05 AM, Edgardo Molina wrote:
I was dinning at an Argentinean restaurant with my wife and some
friends of her.
Armed with a 3G Internet equipped iPad and sharing the story with the
people at the table. Good food, good
All this discussion of the excellence of these Rb units reminds me that
another cell must have died in my battery pack since the slightest
glitch in the power here now makes the green light go out. The last
time a cell died I just took it out since it actually seems to work well
enough with
I cannot duplicate the minor Netflix stoppage I had yesterday at the
leap second. Pausing Netflix before the top of the hour did not cause
a problem. Neither did pausing it just before 00:00:00 UTC today. So,
I assume that the glitch was caused by the leap second.
Joe Gray
W5JG
A couple of years ago, I needed a replacement for a NiCd pack for a Tek
J16 Photomer. I found that Digi-Key would make up even one N x M battery
pack to order, for little more than the cost of the cells. They had both
end-to-end and side-by-side arrangements and did a nice job. I've not
looked
I get my tabbed batteries from Batteries America. Decent prices and good
quality.
On Jul 1, 2012, at 19:41, Dan Rae dan...@verizon.net wrote:
All this discussion of the excellence of these Rb units reminds me that
another cell must have died in my battery pack since the slightest glitch
After watching Blade Runner (the director cut) reposition on a TV
channel, that ended just one minute before 2am local time, I watched my
nixie clock to, as I was expecting, held 02:00:00 (local time) by two
seconds. Surely its GPS (an M12T) sent the right time to the uC,
23:59:60 UTC... but
As an astronomer I've been a supporter of the current leap second situation
and have not really liked the idea of changing.
However, after yesterday I'm thinking of changing my mind.
I quite enjoyed having to go through and change all my clocks (including a
pendulum clock - now that's a pain!),
I have used Batteries America tabbed cells to make up packs for several
pieces of equipment and have been well pleased.
Joe
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On 7/1/2012 5:51 PM, J. L. Trantham wrote:
I have used Batteries America tabbed cells to make up packs for several
pieces of equipment and have been well pleased.
Joe
Thanks both, they look a lot better quality than the ones I have...
Dan
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Would you rather have these minor problems or have a much bigger one when they
make a larger correction?
That's assuming that the leap second would be replaced by the leap minute or something similar on a larger time scale so
that the the time had some relationship to the Earth's
On 7/1/2012 8:24 PM, Jim Palfreyman wrote:
Thoughts?
UTC was specifically defined/specified to closely track the other UTx
timescales. Breaking that link penalizes those who use it as it was
intended. If being close to solar time isn't important for some
applications, and they don't want
With a large correction then maybe people would take it more seriously like
they did Y2K?
On 2 July 2012 11:03, Brooke Clarke bro...@pacific.net wrote:
Hi Jim:
Would you rather have these minor problems or have a much bigger one when
they make a larger correction?
That's assuming that the
On Mon, Jul 02, 2012 at 10:24:33AM +1000, Jim Palfreyman wrote:
As an astronomer I've been a supporter of the current leap second situation
and have not really liked the idea of changing.
As someone who still owns a sextant and almanac, I concur. :)
However, after yesterday I'm
Completely agree with Brooke and Mike S. This is not the first time that
software developers have dropped the ball and later complained that the
problem is too difficult.
In my experience, nobody assigned time or resources to the problem.
What better group than this to come up with a definitive
A US East Coast chain of stores called Batteries Plus can sell you cells and
spot weld them in any almost any way you want.
At least my local store can do that here in Virginia.
-Brian, WA1ZMS
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Dear John,
Totally agree with your point of view. Thank you for the links.
Information quite impressive and interesting.
Bringing one HP5065a back from death... It reminds me about the times
I restored my wristwatches to mint condition, even though they looked
like what the cat brought
Dear Chris,
Thanks for the advise. It is always nice to have different opinions
and points of view.
I have heard about the dependability of Efratom products while doing
my research homework. An Rb oscillator like that surely could be a
good bet considering your vision of the plural
I think a small poke at the system, like inserting a leap second, would save
lives.
If a system has degraded to a house of cards, the sooner someone pokes it the
better.
It may also point to those responsible who are not handling their responsibilty
of providing
bullet proof code. If you can
In message 4ff0f373.1020...@pacific.net, Brooke Clarke writes:
Would you rather have these minor problems or have a much bigger
one when they make a larger correction?
But isn't that exactly why it is a problem ?
News coverage of leapseconds are mostly along the lines of What
can you do with an
In message 20120702025355.ga22...@puck.nether.net, Majdi S. Abbas writes:
On Mon, Jul 02, 2012 at 10:24:33AM +1000, Jim Palfreyman wrote:
Understand that yesterday's situation was specific to one
operating system, which accepted a patch to its kernel a few years ago
that was never really
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