Re: [time-nuts] Z3816 Oscillator Saga

2014-05-02 Thread Chris
On 05/01/14 08:51, Peter Schmelcher wrote: Chris, This hi res pic might help you. I modified my Z3816A to improve the performance. I changed the grounding and added a few extra capacitors. This pic is close to the start so very few changes. -Peter Peter, Thanks very much for sending that. The

Re: [time-nuts] Z3816 Oscillator Saga

2014-05-02 Thread GandalfG8
Hi Chris I've got some results to hand for three samples of the fluke.l MTI-260-0624-C oscillator, if that's the one you mean?, and for 5 MHz output they all require an EFC input on pin 1 between 2.8 and 3.1 Volts. That's with a 12 Volt supply on pin 5, which gives approx 6 Volts out on

Re: [time-nuts] Z3816 Oscillator Saga

2014-05-02 Thread Peter Schmelcher
Chris, The Z3816 has a few design short comings. In the circuit board pic the MTI oscillator circuit board grounding is improved. Subsequently I opened and modified the oven internally and added an extra oven feedthrough pin. The issue is the oven heater current modulates the ground pin

[time-nuts] Small IRIG display wanted

2014-05-02 Thread Bruce Lane
Fellow time-techies, I'm on the prowl for a small panel-mount IRIG-B display, similar to the Datum 9520 series (they made one for aircraft use, which just happens to be the one I'm after). The only critical things about it are: --Needs to be able to run directly off a 12

[time-nuts] Low cost GPS module for 100ns timestamping error

2014-05-02 Thread Tony
Hi, I'm new here so please be gentle! I'm considering designing and building some dataloggers, probably ARM Cortex based (eg. STM32F4xx), which record the time of infrequent events, preferably to better than 100ns and if possible better than 50nS. The data loggers will be continuously

Re: [time-nuts] Low cost GPS module for 100ns timestamping error

2014-05-02 Thread Hal Murray
tn...@toneh.demon.co.uk said: Can anyone point to figures for a typical non-TXCO low cost oscillator, 10 or 16MHz? In general, low cost oscillators make pretty good thermometers. I think you have a much better chance of getting good results if you are willing to post-process the data. I

Re: [time-nuts] Low cost GPS module for 100ns timestamping error

2014-05-02 Thread EWKehren
Welcome to the nuts Tony You are not specifying exactly how accurate time has to be but in my book and based on tests the most reasonable priced GPS with 1 pps is a Ublox 6M that you can get with antenna for less than $ 22 antenna included from _www.DX.com_ (http://www.DX.com) . They have

Re: [time-nuts] Low cost GPS module for 100ns timestamping error

2014-05-02 Thread Edesio Costa e Silva
Welcome! Take a look at NavSpark from SkyTraq (http://www.skytraq.com.tw/). They had an Indiegogo (https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/navspark-arduino-compatible-with-gps-gnss-receiver) campaign recently and should deliver real soon now. The NavSpark chip has an trigger pin for time capture, a

Re: [time-nuts] Low cost GPS module for 100ns timestamping error

2014-05-02 Thread Tony
On 03/05/2014 00:48, Hal Murray wrote: tn...@toneh.demon.co.uk said: Can anyone point to figures for a typical non-TXCO low cost oscillator, 10 or 16MHz? In general, low cost oscillators make pretty good thermometers. True, but it's short term stability that matters here - over 10s of

Re: [time-nuts] Low cost GPS module for 100ns timestamping error

2014-05-02 Thread Tony
On 03/05/2014 00:59, ewkeh...@aol.com wrote: Welcome to the nuts Tony Thanks, Bert. You are not specifying exactly how accurate time has to be but in my book and based on tests the most reasonable priced GPS with 1 pps is a Ublox 6M that you can get with antenna for less than $ 22 antenna

[time-nuts] Low cost GPS module for 100ns timestamping error

2014-05-02 Thread Mark Sims
The Neo-6M based module (Crius CN-06) is available from HobbyKing for $20 (sometimes on sale for $16). You do have to add the wire to access the 1PPS signal. In my testing, I prefer it over the Adafruit Ultimate GPS. The Neo-6M seemed to a a little more sensitive (could get reliable lock

Re: [time-nuts] Low cost GPS module for 100ns timestamping error

2014-05-02 Thread Chris Albertson
here is what I'd do Get a decent OCXO (ovenized crystal oscillator and control it with your GPS. Don't worry if the GPS's PPS is 50ns or 5ns. You are going to be averaging these for a while.Basically you build a GPSDO.These have become very easy to make. I have one I made for

Re: [time-nuts] Low cost GPS module for 100ns timestamping error

2014-05-02 Thread Hal Murray
tn...@toneh.demon.co.uk said: In general, low cost oscillators make pretty good thermometers. True, but it's short term stability that matters here - over 10s of seconds the temperature shouldn't change much - especially if a bit of insulation is used around the oscillator. Ballpark is 1

Re: [time-nuts] Low cost GPS module for 100ns timestamping error

2014-05-02 Thread David J Taylor
-Original Message- From: Tony [] I'm considering designing and building some dataloggers, probably ARM Cortex based (eg. STM32F4xx), which record the time of infrequent events, preferably to better than 100ns and if possible better than 50nS. The data loggers will be continuously