[time-nuts] Mailing lists status report

2014-09-15 Thread John Ackermann N8UR
We've been on the new version of Mailman for a couple of weeks now. The main reason for the update was to work around the DMARC adoption by Yahoo, AOL, and other large ISPs that broke the mailing list model. That seems to be working now. I'll spare the technical details (you can read about it

Re: [time-nuts] Time-Nuts digest working again...

2014-09-17 Thread John Ackermann N8UR
Yes, I'm pleased to report that with help from a couple of 'nuts who pointed me in the right direction, I was able to make a configuration change that seems to have solved the base64 encoding problem. I think we've now restored all the pre-update functionality. John On 09/17/2014 12:58 PM,

Re: [time-nuts] To use or not to use transmission line splitters for GPS receivers

2012-10-09 Thread John Ackermann N8UR
Here's a link to a USNO paper that measured the tempco of three GPS amplifiers: http://www.dtic.mil/cgi-bin/GetTRDoc?AD=ADA490830 They found that amplifier filtering was the prime cause of tempco, and the narrowest bandpass amplifier they looked at had a group delay range of 4 nanoseconds

Re: [time-nuts] HP Z3805A com port and monitoring questions

2012-10-14 Thread John Ackermann N8UR
On the unit I bought from fluke.l, with a Samsung label, there are two serial ports. The bottom one is the control port and is definitely RS-232. The top port has only three wires (TXD, RXD, SG) and I think is used for some sort of monitoring. I've been using Ulrich's z38xx software to

Re: [time-nuts] HP Z3805A com port and monitoring questions

2012-10-14 Thread John Ackermann N8UR
a copy. It is strictly forbidden to copy it or use it for any purpose or disclose its contents to any third party. Thank you. On Oct 14, 2012, at 8:23 AM, John Ackermann N8UR j...@febo.com wrote: On the unit I bought from fluke.l, with a Samsung label, there are two serial ports. The bottom one

Re: [time-nuts] Adjusting HP 5065A frequency

2012-10-21 Thread John Ackermann N8UR
Hi Edgardo -- One slightly frustrating thing about the 5065A is that its frequency settability isn't as good as its short term stability. I believe the manual says that the small divisions on the C-field counter dial are 2x10e12, and it's hard to set closer than that. A good 5065A is a

[time-nuts] 5061B ops manual without missing pages?

2012-10-27 Thread John Ackermann N8UR
Does anyone have a copy of the 5061B ops manual that does not have pages 3-7 and 3-8 missing? The copy at the Agilent site doesn't have those, and they are the basic start-up instructions. I am guessing that the steps are not much different than those in the 5061A manual (which I have), but

Re: [time-nuts] 5061B ops manual without missing pages?

2012-10-27 Thread John Ackermann N8UR
-boun...@febo.com] On Behalf Of John Ackermann N8UR Sent: Saturday, October 27, 2012 09:06 To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement Subject: [time-nuts] 5061B ops manual without missing pages? Does anyone have a copy of the 5061B ops manual that does not have pages 3-7 and 3-8 missing

[time-nuts] Zeeman frequency oddness

2012-10-27 Thread John Ackermann N8UR
Since I recently got an HP Cs degausser (thanks, Stijn!), I though I'd go through the whole setup routine for my 5061B/004 and see how close the C-field-via-Zeeman setting would bring me to GPS-derived frequency. It turned out to be an interesting and puzzling exercise. This 5061 seems to be

Re: [time-nuts] Zeeman frequency oddness

2012-10-28 Thread John Ackermann N8UR
Thanks to all for the helpful replies. At this point, I believe what happened is that the degausser isn't working properly and that may have resulted in the tube being more magnetized rather than less; no matter what I do, I am now getting lock at about -5e11 -- which is not what it used to

Re: [time-nuts] Sulzer 5A 5P PSU/battery question

2012-11-01 Thread John Ackermann N8UR
Hi Magnus -- I was recently (within the last year) able to get the battery pack in my 5P power supply rebuilt by the local Batteries Plus store. It took a few weeks for them to order and obtain the cells, but they do seem to be available. John On Nov 1, 2012, at 4:51 PM, Magnus Danielson

Re: [time-nuts] TADD-2 Mini Sine or Square signal input?

2012-11-13 Thread John Ackermann N8UR
Hello Edgardo -- The T2-Mini uses a wide-range input circuit based on one that Wenzel published with some modifications. It works with a square wave input (I've done some limited testing) but I can't verify whether the input amplitude range will extend as far on either the low or the high

Re: [time-nuts] TADD-2 Mini Sine or Square signal input?

2012-11-14 Thread John Ackermann N8UR
or disclose its contents to any third party. Thank you. On Nov 13, 2012, at 8:21 PM, John Ackermann N8UR j...@febo.com wrote: Hello Edgardo -- The T2-Mini uses a wide-range input circuit based on one that Wenzel published with some modifications. It works with a square wave input (I've done some

Re: [time-nuts] Confused about Rubidium oscillators

2012-11-14 Thread John Ackermann N8UR
From what's been reported here, the mechanism isn't consumption of the Rb, but rather deposition of material on inside of the bulb, reducing its intensity, and that can sometimes be reversed by tricks that some time-nuts have reported -- it's more of a maintenance rather than a wear-out issue.

Re: [time-nuts] Recommended parameters for Timelab ADEV analysis

2012-11-14 Thread John Ackermann N8UR
Edgardo, the minimum sample rate in practice is determined by the noise floor of the measurement system. I would suggest that you do a baseline test by measuring the counter reference against itself with a tau0 (sample rate) of 1 second. You'll see a best-case result and from it you can

Re: [time-nuts] Nifty MINI TIC for DMTD work

2012-11-19 Thread John Ackermann N8UR
Corby and Bert -- Count me in! John On Nov 19, 2012, at 3:15 PM, cdel...@juno.com wrote: As Bert mentioned once the amount if interest is established purchase details will post. We also will post a FAQ for this project. Thanks, Corby

Re: [time-nuts] Recommended parameters for Timelab ADEV analysis

2012-11-20 Thread John Ackermann N8UR
. On Nov 14, 2012, at 8:13 PM, John Ackermann N8UR j...@febo.com wrote: Edgardo, the minimum sample rate in practice is determined by the noise floor of the measurement system. I would suggest that you do a baseline test by measuring the counter reference against itself with a tau0

[time-nuts] 10638A Degausser Update

2012-11-23 Thread John Ackermann N8UR
A couple of weeks ago I posted about problems with my HP 10638A degausser (that's used with the 5061 Cs units to remove residual magnetism from the high-performance option tube). My troubleshooting indicated that the problem was likely in the op-amp that is used to generate an exponentially

[time-nuts] Efratom MFS system

2012-11-25 Thread John Ackermann N8UR
At a recent hamfest, I picked up an interesting looking Efratom Made in Germany MFS modular frequency standard system. It's basically a GPS disciplined FRK Rubidium with XO fail-over and a whole bunch of RF and PPS outputs, in a *very* heavy box. I've had a chance to play with it a bit and

Re: [time-nuts] Efratom MFS system

2012-11-25 Thread John Ackermann N8UR
not to interchange the modules between the two systems. There may be some value in reviewing the MFTS manual to see if there's anything applicable to the MFS. Ed On 11/25/2012 10:15 AM, John Ackermann N8UR wrote: At a recent hamfest, I picked up an interesting looking Efratom Made in Germany MFS

Re: [time-nuts] Special integration capacitors

2012-11-29 Thread John Ackermann N8UR
Sadly, no. Different number and it looks like pin-out as well. On Nov 29, 2012, at 6:06 PM, Robert Atkinson robert8...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: Is that ADO27B op-amp module on the PCB the same one used in the degausser for the HP 5061 high performance tube? Robert G8RPI.

Re: [time-nuts] Using a frequency synthesizer replacement for motherboard oscillator

2012-11-30 Thread John Ackermann N8UR
In this case, you're not looking for the RTC but rather the clock that drives the COU, which is what drives the system clock. On most systems, the RTC is read only at startup and is not used once the system is running. John On Nov 30, 2012, at 6:30 PM, Eric Garner garn...@gmail.com wrote:

Re: [time-nuts] Using a frequency synthesizer replacement for motherboard oscillator

2012-11-30 Thread John Ackermann N8UR
On Nov 30, 2012, at 7:10 PM, Sarah White kuze...@gmail.com wrote: On 11/30/2012 6:30 PM, Eric Garner wrote: the actual RTC on modern (Intel based) PC's is driven from a standard 32,768 Hz crystal attached to the PCH. some of them are in incredibly small packages now instead of the old tuning

Re: [time-nuts] Using a frequency synthesizer replacement for motherboard oscillator

2012-11-30 Thread John Ackermann N8UR
On Nov 30, 2012, at 7:42 PM, John Ackermann N8UR j...@febo.com wrote: In this case, you're not looking for the RTC but rather the clock that drives the COU Read CPU. Stupid iPad keyboard. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com

Re: [time-nuts] GPSDO Alternatives

2012-12-06 Thread John Ackermann N8UR
On 12/6/2012 4:35 PM, Charles P. Steinmetz wrote: From my perspective, the most interesting development would be an offer by someone with a very well equipped lab to test any DIY GPSDO with a consistent protocol and publish the results. That way, we could all see how the various approaches

Re: [time-nuts] Search Time-Nuts Archive?

2012-12-08 Thread John Ackermann N8UR
I don't have an internal search engine on the server, but most folks just do a google search using the site:febo.com option and that seems to work well. John On Dec 8, 2012, at 11:24 AM, Mike Garvey r3m...@verizon.net wrote: Is there a way to search the Archive? I can find the archive,

Re: [time-nuts] Sir Patrick Moore

2012-12-10 Thread John Ackermann N8UR
On 12/10/2012 7:10 AM, David Kirkby wrote: On 10 December 2012 09:24, David C. Partridge david.partri...@perdrix.co.uk wrote: Related to time-nuttery as astonomical observation was used for time-keeping until C20. Sir Patrick Moore, the great amateur astonomer died yesterday at the age of 89.

Re: [time-nuts] Thunderbolt schematics

2012-12-11 Thread John Ackermann N8UR
On Dec 11, 2012, at 6:57 PM, Magnus Danielson mag...@rubidium.dyndns.org wrote: Tom, On 12/12/2012 12:44 AM, Tom Van Baak wrote: I think that the TBolt's schematic(s) are sort of HolyGrail for TimeNuts. Some French time nuts told us they already have one. It's very nice. Would you be

Re: [time-nuts] Z3805A cooling requirements?

2012-12-20 Thread John Ackermann N8UR
TimeLab can talk directly to the 512x boxes via ethernet. I've also written some Linux scripts to capture both phase data and graphs from the 5120; happy to share with anyone who'd like them (but TimeLab is a whole lot easier in most cases). John On 12/20/2012 4:09 PM, Bob Camp wrote: Hi

Re: [time-nuts] Z3805A cooling requirements?

2012-12-20 Thread John Ackermann N8UR
Magnus Danielson said the following on 12/20/2012 05:29 PM: On 12/20/2012 10:19 PM, John Ackermann N8UR wrote: TimeLab can talk directly to the 512x boxes via ethernet. I've also written some Linux scripts to capture both phase data and graphs from the 5120; happy to share with anyone who'd

Re: [time-nuts] Brooks Shera

2012-12-21 Thread John Ackermann N8UR
And folks, please respect Brooks' privacy -- remember that this list is archived in many places on the web. John paul swed said the following on 12/21/2012 04:06 PM: Kind of defocusing here. I think the thread is about possibly helping to release the shera v4.02 software. Several folks

Re: [time-nuts] clock-block any need ?

2012-12-27 Thread John Ackermann N8UR
The Clock-Block is a clock generator that is useful if you want to replace the computer's onboard crystal clock with an external high-stability source. For example, you can configure it to take a 10 MHz input from a GPSDO and create a 14.318182 MHz output to replace the crystal in a PC that

Re: [time-nuts] ensemble oscillators for better stability

2012-12-28 Thread John Ackermann N8UR
Hi Corby -- I've often thought of the idea of mixing two 5 MHz sources in a DBM and using the resulting 10 MHz, so I'm really curious to see how this works out. Seems like injection locking is the most likely problem you'd have to deal with. Let us know how this goes! John On Dec 28, 2012,

[time-nuts] Create measuring-n...@febo.com list? [ Was: Re: OT, looking for a good science forum ]

2013-01-27 Thread John Ackermann N8UR
If there's interest and we can agree on a charter, I would be happy to create a measuring-nuts (or similar) list at febo.com. If so, I'd like the charter to be along the lines of high signal-to-noise ratio discussion at the serious-amateur level of scientific measurement tools and techniques,

Re: [time-nuts] Low noise power supplies?

2013-01-31 Thread John Ackermann N8UR
And this (very interesting) thread brings up the question of measurement methods. Some time ago I searched around and didn't find much on a standard way to measure noise on low voltage DC supplies. John On 1/31/2013 11:36 AM, Bob Camp wrote: Hi I think the comparison of PSD on a power

Re: [time-nuts] GPIB counter logging / plotting software?

2013-02-25 Thread John Ackermann N8UR
John Miles' most excellent TimeLab software should be able to do what you want: http://www.miles.io/TimeLab/beta.htm John On 2/25/2013 10:39 AM, Dan Rae wrote: I am working on 400 - 500 MHz DDS clocks for an amateur radio project and would like to record over gpib and plot the relative

Re: [time-nuts] Distribution amplifier phase noise

2013-03-14 Thread John Ackermann N8UR
Ulrich, I'm on the run right now, but I've done measurements of the HP 5087, TADD-1, Spectracom 8140-series line amp, and a new protoype ULN buffer amp. I'll post the links later today. John On Mar 14, 2013, at 6:59 AM, Ulrich Bangert df...@ulrich-bangert.de wrote: Gentlemen, although it

Re: [time-nuts] Working on new NanoBSD w/NTPns for Net4501image...

2013-04-19 Thread John Ackermann N8UR
Jason, a few months ago I was able to build a FreeBSD 9 system using standard NTP. It involved a lot of pain, a lot of help from PHK, and a lot of handwaving, but in the end it worked. I'm happy to share config info if you'd like -- contact me off list. John On 4/19/2013 9:50 AM,

[time-nuts] TADD-1 PC Boards

2013-04-23 Thread John Ackermann N8UR
Hi All -- Some of you know that I've been working on a very high performance buffer amplifier in both a single channel version and a 6 channel version that will replace the TADD-1, which TAPR discontinued because the MAX477 op-amp is no longer available. Unfortunately life and health and a

Re: [time-nuts] Time nut newbie

2013-04-30 Thread John Ackermann N8UR
Hi Tim -- Welcome! The easiest way to search the time-nuts list is to use Google and add the site:febo.com tag -- that will bring up hits in the list archive (as well as anything on my web site that might be pertinent). John On 4/30/2013 1:49 PM, Tim Bastian wrote: Hi all, I'm a

Re: [time-nuts] Extended length Phase Noise Measurements with TimeLab

2013-05-03 Thread John Ackermann N8UR
Hi Tom -- Are you talking about capture time limits, or minimum tau? I've never encountered any capture time limits in TimeLab and have done out to 30 days. However, one thing I have noticed with the 5120A ethernet using my own capture software is that the data flow will sometimes stop for

Re: [time-nuts] Server Issues?

2013-05-20 Thread John Ackermann N8UR
I'm not aware of any specific server issues here (the configuration is fairly stock Debian with Mailman and Postfix) but there can be delays due to the vagaries of the internet and there are interactions that can cause delays for some folks and not others. I'll keep an eye on things to see if

Re: [time-nuts] Server Issues?

2013-05-21 Thread John Ackermann N8UR
There was definitely a delay -- I saw it on my own message last evening. I have done some performance tuning on the mail server that might (or might not...) make a difference. The new server we put on line back in January certainly has enough horsepower, so hopefully tweaking is all it will

Re: [time-nuts] Sound Card Spectrum Analyzer

2010-02-18 Thread John Ackermann N8UR
You could also consider whether Gnuradio (http://www.gnuradio.org) could do what you need. It has interfaces to the Linux sound system. John Bob Camp said the following on 02/18/2010 08:10 PM: Hi Ok, A bit more info: 1) Quadrature PLL using an RPD-1 DBM and a home brew lock box. 2)

[time-nuts] MVUS FMT Results (Finally!) Available

2010-02-21 Thread John Ackermann N8UR
Sorry to all for the delay, but the results from the December Frequency Measuring Test are available at http://www.febo.com/pages/mvus-fmt/Dec2009/results.html We congratulate WA4FJC, K5CM, AA6LK, K1GGI, and K9AYA for their first place finishes (there were ties on three of the four bands).

Re: [time-nuts] Rb Oscillator - rather fundamental question

2010-02-23 Thread John Ackermann N8UR
I don't think I agree with that, Warren. I'd view a primary standard as an intrinsic one -- that is accurate by definition and doesn't need calibration against another, higher level, source. A cesium beam standard is based on the same physical phenomenon that defines the second, so if it's

Re: [time-nuts] TADD enclosure screw sizes...

2010-03-13 Thread John Ackermann N8UR
Dave, the standoffs are threaded for a 4-40 screw, but I'll tell you a secret -- if you use the nuts and washers on the BNC connectors, the board is held very securely without any need for the mounting screws; I've frankly never bothered with them. John Dave hartzell said the following

Re: [time-nuts] TADD enclosure screw sizes...

2010-03-14 Thread John Ackermann N8UR
the board in, and screwed in. I'm probably going to be operating open lid for a while just to see the LED status. Dave On Sat, Mar 13, 2010 at 10:29 AM, John Ackermann N8UR j...@febo.com wrote: Dave, the standoffs are threaded for a 4-40 screw, but I'll tell you a secret -- if you use the nuts

Re: [time-nuts] Divider pecking order ?

2010-03-21 Thread John Ackermann N8UR
I'd love to see the results of some well designed and controlled jitter measurements. I did a bunch on the TADD-2 and a single-channel prototype, but they weren't as rigorous as this group deserves. (The short version is that the tests pretty consistently show jitter standard deviation of

Re: [time-nuts] 10811 oscillator series 3010A

2010-03-27 Thread John Ackermann N8UR
For what it's worth, Corby, I've only ever seen or heard about that sticker on 10811s that were in HP Cs or RB standards -- I think that both my newer 5061A and 5065A have them. I have wondered whether maybe that upgrade was for compatibility with the div2 board used in the standards to get

Re: [time-nuts] Symmetricom 5115A Phase Noise Allen Deviation TestSet on ePay

2010-04-07 Thread John Ackermann N8UR
Tom Holmes, N8ZM wrote: Luis... My wife is a great bargain hunter, and loves to come home and tell me how much money she has saved on something she just bought. I've been trying to get her to express the savings in dB$, but she just isn't going for it. Any mention of the word logarithm sends

Re: [time-nuts] Symmetricom 5115

2010-04-07 Thread John Ackermann N8UR
I just took a look at the datasheets for the 5115, 5120, and 5125. . The 5115 is the base model covering through 30 MHz and without a cross-correlation capability. At 10 MHz input frequency, its spec is -133 dBc/Hz at 1 Hz offset, and -147 dBc/Hz at 100 Hz offset (not spec'd at greater

Re: [time-nuts] Time nuttiness at Dayton!

2010-05-12 Thread John Ackermann N8UR
Stop by the TAPR booth! I'll be there most of the time (when I'm not out snooping around in the flea market). John normn3...@stny.rr.com said the following on 05/12/2010 06:08 PM: Who is headed to Dayton?? Any vendors with junk? cu there! 73 de Norm n3ykf

[time-nuts] Administrivia -- febo.com email

2010-05-19 Thread John Ackermann N8UR
Sorry for the broadcast, but I wanted to get an update out to the users of febo.com email services (including the various mailing lists hosted here). The good news is that my upcoming move from Ohio to Georgia shouldn't disturb mail handling through febo.com. The other good news is that

[time-nuts] Totally OT -- Request for networking info

2010-07-23 Thread John Ackermann N8UR
I'm going to exercise the administrator's prerogative and ask if someone here who knows about IP network design would be willing to contact me ***off list*** at j...@febo.com and provide a bit of consultation -- possibly via a quick phone call. We've now moved into our new house/lab and I

Re: [time-nuts] Totally OT -- Request for networking info

2010-07-23 Thread John Ackermann N8UR
All -- I've had an overwhelming response to my plea for advice. Thanks, but no more need. John John Ackermann N8UR said the following on 07/23/2010 07:25 PM: I'm going to exercise the administrator's prerogative and ask if someone here who knows about IP network design would be willing

Re: [time-nuts] Basic question regarding comparing two frequencies

2010-07-26 Thread John Ackermann N8UR
Here's data showing Doppler (and other effects) on WWV as received in Dayton, OH over several days. I took this by reading an HP 3586C frequency counter output via GPIB -- which seems to be a good technique for long-term HF frequency gathering. You need to figure out a way to remove outliers

Re: [time-nuts] Basic question regarding comparing two frequencies

2010-07-26 Thread John Ackermann N8UR
Didier Juges wrote: I like the 3586 a lot, it's amazing what you can do with it. However, if you send the audio (beat note) to a computer or other instrument, keep in mind that the BFOs are not phase locked to the reference, they are just free standing crystal oscillators, and they may be off

Re: [time-nuts] Fwd: Fwd: PicTic Data

2010-08-15 Thread John Ackermann N8UR
Steve, I'm sure there are several folks here with web sites or download areas that could host the files. If no one else raises their hand, I could put them on febo.com. John Steve Rooke said the following on 08/15/2010 10:53 AM: Stanley and Nigel, I have received the go ahead to

Re: [time-nuts] Small DMTD project PCBs Group Buy Update

2010-08-19 Thread John Ackermann N8UR
Re PIC programming -- if the volume is sufficient, Digi-Key will program PICs. The set-up fee is enough that you probably want to do at least 50-100 units to amortize the cost, but it's not too bad. That's how we handled the PIC for the TADD-2. John Heathkid wrote: Stanley, I'm not

[time-nuts] Administrivia: Removing/Editing Postings

2010-08-21 Thread John Ackermann N8UR
Every now and then I get a request asking that I remove a post from the time-nuts list archive because it was either meant for to an individual rather than the list, or it inadvertently included personal information. There is no easy way for me to remove a message from the archives; doing so

Re: [time-nuts] Febo.com SSL certificate expired

2010-10-15 Thread John Ackermann N8UR
bJason Rabel said the following on 10/15/2010 03:00 PM: Why bother buying a cert? Just create a self-signed one (and you can make it for like 10+ years)... It's not like he's selling stuff from his website... And that's what the old cert was. I will create a new one as soon as I get a

[time-nuts] febo.com SSL certificate

2010-10-15 Thread John Ackermann N8UR
I've regenerated the SSL certificate for HTTPS at febo.com. The new certificate should be good for ten years, as I intended (but failed to accomplish) when I created the old one. It's still a self-signed cert, so will throw a warning with your browser, but you can trust me and tell the

Re: [time-nuts] febo.com SSL certificate

2010-10-15 Thread John Ackermann N8UR
, 2010, at 9:20 PM, John Ackermann N8UR wrote: I've regenerated the SSL certificate for HTTPS at febo.com. The new certificate should be good for ten years, as I intended (but failed to accomplish) when I created the old one. It's still a self-signed cert, so will throw a warning with your

Re: [time-nuts] Archives Location

2010-10-18 Thread John Ackermann N8UR
The archives are at http://www.febo.com/pipermail/time-nuts/ I'm not sure why you're getting site safety warnings going there because that's not an HTTPS (SSL) page, though the primary list management pages are. And regarding those warnings -- they are because I use a home-made security

Re: [time-nuts] Does TIME-NUTS LIST-SERV allow CLASSIFIED For-Sale private advertisment?

2010-10-18 Thread John Ackermann N8UR
We've never had a hard-and-fast rule, but in general the community seems OK with (a) non-dealers making occasional postings about TF related items (i.e., excess or housecleaning items), and (b) commercial sellers making *very* occasional postings about unusual items. Periodic ads, or general

Re: [time-nuts] 60KHz Antenna Cont'd

2010-10-20 Thread John Ackermann N8UR
Here's the page I wrote years ago on the split-shield antenna: http://www.febo.com/time-freq/wwvb/antenna/index.html Unfortunately, I never took any photos and the antenna is now in pieces after a couple of moves. I've also had good luck using an active voltage probe antenna to receive both

Re: [time-nuts] TAPR now open for Thunderbolt orders

2008-07-07 Thread John Ackermann N8UR
Hi Richard -- At the moment we're not taking orders as the demand has outstripped the supply. If -- and there's not much likelihood of this -- we end up having any available, we will first notify those who've already tried to order but were put on hold, and if any are left after that, there will

[time-nuts] Getting Hardware Projects to the Masses (Was Re: Monitor for Thunderbolt and other GPS receivers)

2008-07-11 Thread John Ackermann N8UR
There've been some interesting conversations about useful TF hardware gadgets lately. I'm personally very interested in the 10 MHz divider project (as I've been working, very slowly, on a similar project with several people on the list) and the Tbolt monitor projects. Let me mention, then,

Re: [time-nuts] Rack flange kit for 5370B and 3325B

2008-07-22 Thread John Ackermann N8UR
It's been a year or so since I shopped for any, but eBay yielded quite a few for me, searching on rack ears. John J. L. Trantham said the following on 07/21/2008 07:19 AM: I, too, have been looking for rack mount ears for similar units (5334B, 3325A, 3335A, 8657A, 5087A, 105B, 8130A,

Re: [time-nuts] PCB for frequency dividers

2008-07-25 Thread John Ackermann N8UR
David C. Partridge said the following on 07/25/2008 12:17 PM: BTW Someone suggested that this might be relevant to TAPR. I'm very happy to grant TAPR the free (no charge) use of the design, conditional only on my retaining copyright. TAPR's Time and Frequency Design Team (i.e., me) is

Re: [time-nuts] Double-Oven Thunderbolt on Ebay

2008-08-08 Thread John Ackermann N8UR
I'm measuring my pair of eBay -60158s right now and will post some results probably after the weekend. I've never seen the -60268s. One thing to note -- good phase noise and good ADEV don't necessarily go together. Case in point is the -60158s are spec'd at 1x10e-12 at 1 second, which is better

[time-nuts] TBolt and Z3801A performance data

2008-08-09 Thread John Ackermann N8UR
I just put the results of some tests of 2 Time-Nuts Special Thunderbolts, as well as 2 Z3801As, at http://www.febo.com/pages/gpsdo_comparison/ I learned an interesting (and important) lesson in doing these measurement. I initially measured the pairs of GPSDO against each other (e.g., one TBolt

Re: [time-nuts] TBolt and Z3801A performance data

2008-08-09 Thread John Ackermann N8UR
-term drift isn't being corrected at that timescale. Your noise floor is a couple dB worse than the one I tested, but they're otherwise about the same. - john, KE5FX -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of John Ackermann N8UR Sent: Saturday

Re: [time-nuts] I want a good micro-controller

2008-08-13 Thread John Ackermann N8UR
Mark Sims wrote: Well, I'm particularly fond of the MegaDonkey from mega-donkey.com It does everything I want a microcontroller to do (it should, I designed it). Atmel ATMEGA2561, 256K flash, 8K RAM, LCD 160x80 graphics touchscreen display, two serial ports, IIC ports, A/D ports,

Re: [time-nuts] thunderbolt for ntpd or gpsd

2008-08-15 Thread John Ackermann N8UR
Yes, sadly this was a layout error that didn't get caught until too late (I'm still not sure why the rules check in the board layout software didn't catch it). Removing R4 if you're using DTR for power is the correct answer. John Scott Mace wrote: I found that on the two FatPPS units

Re: [time-nuts] Odetics 325 425: File recovery

2008-08-22 Thread John Ackermann N8UR
You can pipe rsync over SSH; a lot of folks who (quite rightly) don't permit telnet leave the SSH ports open, and it's a lot more secure for your data, anyway. I don't recall the exact magic to make rsync plus SSH work under Windows, but I think you could use PuTTY or Teraterm to provide the

Re: [time-nuts] rsync (was Odetics 325 425: File recovery)

2008-08-22 Thread John Ackermann N8UR
I was thinking about the Windows side; do the client/server there have built-in SSH support? I thought you had to play tricks under that OS. John christopher hoover wrote: John Ackermann N8UR [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You can pipe rsync over SSH; I don't recall the exact magic to make rsync

[time-nuts] Test message

2008-10-12 Thread John Ackermann N8UR
Just testing after moving to the new server. Sorry for the bandwidth... John ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.

Re: [time-nuts] New servers

2008-10-13 Thread John Ackermann N8UR
Yes, we're now running on a dedicated server at ServerBeach, which is also where tapr.org has been hosted for two or three years (and we've had very good luck with them). I'm not sure where your info came from, but ServerBeach (these days, anyway) appears to be very reputable. They're owned by

Re: [time-nuts] New servers

2008-10-13 Thread John Ackermann N8UR
of their letting spammers slide but I did check the IP address of the list on mxtoolbox.com and it came up perfectly clean. Joe, WA9MSD -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Ackermann N8UR Sent: Monday, October 13, 2008 08:30

Re: [time-nuts] Getting NTP/Linux to work with GPS-DO?

2008-10-20 Thread John Ackermann N8UR
Bruce, unfortunately Linux doesn't play too nicely with PPS -- long story, but you need to do patches to get even minimal functionality with current kernels. An option is to use a shared memory driver called shmpps (available from http://time.qnan.org/). I've done this in the past, but had a

[time-nuts] Administrivia -- time-nuts mailing list web access problems

2008-10-28 Thread John Ackermann N8UR
I don't know (yet) what happened, but something broke in the last couple of days and all the web interfaces (e.g., for subscribing, or reading the archives) to the mailman mailing list system at febo.com are currently broken. The good news is that the problem is so pervasive, it must have a

[time-nuts] time-nuts web interface fixed (I hope)

2008-10-28 Thread John Ackermann N8UR
I think I found the bug; somehow the web server and mailman processes weren't able to write in each other's files, which caused various forms of barfage. Don't know why it suddenly broke, though... Sorry for the inconvenience. John ___ time-nuts

Re: [time-nuts] Lucent RFTG-XO performance...

2008-11-06 Thread John Ackermann N8UR
a pair of Z3801s that perform some heroic jumps? This is just a hobby, not long baseline interferometry. Bill Hawkins -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Ackermann N8UR Sent: Sunday, February 03, 2008 7:18 PM To: Discussion

Re: [time-nuts] WWV / WWVH / WWVB

2008-11-20 Thread John Ackermann N8UR
Brad Stockdale wrote: [ ... ] Anyway, on to the reason for this post... I'd like to get some receivers so I can HEAR and USE the WWVB, WWV, and WWVH signals... I know that HEARING them may not be a 'normal' request, but I just would like to monitor the audio as well as being able to

Re: [time-nuts] problem to access

2008-12-10 Thread John Ackermann N8UR
You can ignore the security notice; it is simply saying that the SSL certificate we use is self-signed and not bought for $$$ from Verisign or someone like that. 73, John N8UR Pierre-François (f5bqp_pfm) wrote: Hi, I really have a problem to access your site to modify my parameters.

Re: [time-nuts] Build my own dist. amp ??

2008-12-13 Thread John Ackermann N8UR
Dan Rae said the following on 12/13/2008 02:16 PM: Dave, the problem with those, and indeed the TAPR kit eventually, is that all the Maxim ICs involved have been discontinued, and are no longer easily sourced. The MAX477 is indeed going away, but it appears to still be available without

[time-nuts] New topics (was Re: He is a Time-Nut Troublemaker....)

2008-12-23 Thread John Ackermann N8UR
Magnus Danielson wrote: My intent is to get some stuff done in the lab during the vacation. (Desperatly trying to get some more on-topic discussions going). Here are two questions that have been running around my head: 1. Following on from the discussion last week about trying to

Re: [time-nuts] New topics (was Re: He is a Time-Nut Troublemaker....)

2008-12-23 Thread John Ackermann N8UR
Magnus Danielson wrote: This diffrential locking technique could be applied to atomic standards, but then naturally require much improved solution than simple oscillators. The diffrential locking technique does not magically solve issues that is typically common mode, such as temperature

Re: [time-nuts] New topics (was Re: He is a Time-Nut Troublemaker....)

2008-12-23 Thread John Ackermann N8UR
Hal Murray said the following on 12/23/2008 01:58 PM: 2. Several measurement techniques require a given phase relationship (e.g., quadrature) between DUT and reference. For HF frequencies (ie, 5 or 10 MHz) is there a *practical* phase shifter design covering 180+ degrees that doesn't

Re: [time-nuts] WWVB Outages?

2008-12-26 Thread John Ackermann N8UR
I don't see any alarm LEDs on my Spectracom WWVB receivers (one a WWVB-DO, the other a clock), but I'm not sure that their unlock LEDs latch, or that the error LEDs trip on loss of lock. John Greg Burnett said the following on 12/26/2008 02:50 PM: Have any of you noticed intermittent WWVB

Re: [time-nuts] WWVB Outages?

2008-12-26 Thread John Ackermann N8UR
Unlock alarm is *not* latching. Therefore you have to be there, to catch the problem in the act. ...Or else run continuous plots. Greg - Original Message - From: John Ackermann N8UR j...@febo.com To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement time-nuts@febo.com Sent

Re: [time-nuts] How are you going to spend your extra second?

2008-12-29 Thread John Ackermann N8UR
Guys, this is totally off topic. Please drop it. Thanks, Your Sysadmin Chuck Harris said the following on 12/29/2008 01:55 AM: Jim Palfreyman wrote: I suppose it's nuts is it to want to live in a society where there a very few guns available, where ordinary people don't carry them and

Re: [time-nuts] Capturing CHU frequency switchover

2008-12-31 Thread John Ackermann N8UR
Magnus, you read my mind! I'm planning to record 7335 on one channel, and 7850 on the other. The only problem is that my wire antenna blew down in the last wind storm, so I only have a vertical and I'm not sure how that will work. John Magnus Danielson said the following on 12/31/2008

[time-nuts] [Fwd: Morning show seeking time nut]

2008-12-31 Thread John Ackermann N8UR
Someone in New York, Washington, or a Canadian provincial capital looking to become famous? If so, please respond directly to Dagna. They are looking for someone who can come into the studio. John Original Message Subject:Morning show seeking time nut Date: Wed, 31

[time-nuts] CHU 12/31 Frequency Change

2008-12-31 Thread John Ackermann N8UR
Was I the only one monitoring CHU? Things didn't go as I expected. It had been a few months since I had monitored 7335, so was surprised when in mid-afternoon a broadcaster (I think WHRI in Maine) was on frequency and totally obliterating CHU. I was more surprised when CHU was audible on the

[time-nuts] FTS 4100 (4050/4060) Service Information?

2009-01-07 Thread John Ackermann N8UR
I recently acquired a couple of FTS 4100/S12 cesium frequency standard modules. These are, I've been told, basically the guts of a 4050 (and maybe 4060?) commercial standard repackaged for military fly-away use. They run from 22-30 volts and have a couple of switches and a meter jack, but

Re: [time-nuts] 10 MHz Band-Pass Filter Needed

2009-01-08 Thread John Ackermann N8UR
Dan Rae wrote: Richard W. Solomon wrote: The GPSDO I want to use has an output rich in harmonics. In some cases that is good, but Murphy rules and in the application I have today, it is not good. I need a 10 MHz Band-Pass Filter, Bandwidth is not critical, something small with SMA

Re: [time-nuts] GPSDO time constant

2009-01-08 Thread John Ackermann N8UR
I mentioned in another post that I picked up a couple of militarized FTS-4100 fly-away Cs units. These have an option installed that adds an accelerometer to the OCXO; it's supposed to reduce G sensitivity by at least an order of magnitude. John saidj...@aol.com wrote: Hi Magnus,

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