Re: [time-nuts] Weather/units question for European members

2014-05-25 Thread Steve Byan
On May 23, 2014, at 11:12 PM, Mark Sims hol...@hotmail.com wrote: The nice thing about measuring temperature via sonic measurements is that the measurements are unaffected by solar heating of the apparatus... it does not need to be in the shade. I stumbled on this paper a while back when I

[time-nuts] Weather/units question for European members

2014-05-25 Thread Mark Sims
I ran across this very issue when trying to calibrate my barometer chip against the NWS station located less than two miles away. Their numbers for millibars and inches of mercury do not agree. I sent them an email and asked what was going on. They said their instruments read out in

Re: [time-nuts] Weather/units question for European members

2014-05-25 Thread Graham
atmospheric pressure taken for a weather observation is measured in millibars and respresents the barometric pressure at ground level at that location. If the instrument is located somewhere besides ground level it will be corrected to ground level. The value given in inches of mercury is

Re: [time-nuts] Weather/units question for European members

2014-05-24 Thread Chris Albertson
Here in the US, most people who really care about wind speed think knots. For causal use to the general public them it's MPH. If you want to be esoteric use the Beaufort Wind Scale It is actually still used because it can be estimated from looking at the water. It is easy to learn to tell a

Re: [time-nuts] Weather/units question for European members

2014-05-24 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
In message blu170-w517a3e7d32e32be4c3d3a4ce...@phx.gbl, Mark Sims writes: I am building a weather sensor that includes a ultrasonic anemometer Now the question... I would like it to be able to output data in imperial or metric units. In what units is the typical wind speed reported

Re: [time-nuts] Weather/units question for European members

2014-05-24 Thread Arnold Tibus
Hi Mark, I second Paul Henning, here in Europe we use officially the SI standard, does mean m/s and hPa! Privately used other units are another thing like km/h or units Beaufort and mb (millibar), but not official. If possible use always the international SI units and as personal choice km/h,

Re: [time-nuts] Weather/units question for European members

2014-05-24 Thread Javier Herrero
Hello, Wind speed usually in meters/sec (when used for scientific data) or km/h (used in the news, so the people can compare with car speed ;) ) Pressure in millibars. Meteorologist also usually refers to hectopascals, but it is more for representing something at a given altitude (for

Re: [time-nuts] Weather/units question for European members

2014-05-24 Thread Magnus Danielson
hektopascal is pseudo-SI form, as it is a compromize between the old milibar and propper SI unit of Pascal with suitable prefix 1 mbar = 1 hPa, but since we have normal pressure at 1013 mbar we should write it as 101,3 kPa but not 1013 hPa if we is to follow SI all the way. Temperature in C

Re: [time-nuts] Weather/units question for European members

2014-05-24 Thread Martin VE3OAT
Here in Canada, for many years we have officially used km/hr and kilopascals (kPa) for all reporting (both civil and aviation). These units are now easily understood by the general population. Personally, for pressure I preferred hectopascals but over the years even I have adapted to the

Re: [time-nuts] Weather/units question for European members

2014-05-24 Thread Brooke Clarke
Hi Mark: The key benefit of an ultrasonic wind speed/direction sensor is that it can detect very slow wind speeds. My Peet Bros. system does not start telling me anything until the speed is a few MPH. http://www.prc68.com/I/UltimeterWeatherStation.shtml But all the weather stations I've seen

[time-nuts] Weather/units question for European members

2014-05-23 Thread Mark Sims
I am building a weather sensor that includes a ultrasonic anemometer to measure wind speed, direction, and air temperature. It uses 4 cheap ($1 each) HC-SR04 ultrasonic rangefinder modules that output a pulse width proportional to the time of flight of the sound signal (topic is time nut

Re: [time-nuts] Weather/units question for European members

2014-05-23 Thread Tom Miller
For civilian use, Miles/hour and inches Hg. Aviation and marine would be knots and inches Hg. Tom - Original Message - From: Mark Sims hol...@hotmail.com To: time-nuts@febo.com Sent: Friday, May 23, 2014 9:16 PM Subject: [time-nuts] Weather/units question for European members I am

Re: [time-nuts] Weather/units question for European members

2014-05-23 Thread paul swed
Mark I think wind speed is also in Bueforts. Pretty sure thats misspelled. Regards On Fri, May 23, 2014 at 9:16 PM, Mark Sims hol...@hotmail.com wrote: I am building a weather sensor that includes a ultrasonic anemometer to measure wind speed, direction, and air temperature. It uses 4 cheap

Re: [time-nuts] Weather/units question for European members

2014-05-23 Thread DaveH
Sent: Friday, May 23, 2014 18:17 To: time-nuts@febo.com Subject: [time-nuts] Weather/units question for European members I am building a weather sensor that includes a ultrasonic anemometer to measure wind speed, direction, and air temperature. It uses 4 cheap ($1 each) HC-SR04

Re: [time-nuts] Weather/units question for European members

2014-05-23 Thread Flemming Larsen
Beaufort scale Mark I think wind speed is also in Bueforts. Pretty sure thats misspelled. Regards ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to

Re: [time-nuts] Weather/units question for European members

2014-05-23 Thread Rex
I have a crappy Chinese-made handheld propeller anemometer. I'm not in Europe but FWIW the output can be selected as: m/s, km/h, ft/min, knots or mph. So, the first two of those seem to be likely metric choices. Your method sounds interesting. Would you be willing to share any details about

[time-nuts] Weather/units question for European members

2014-05-23 Thread Mark Sims
The project sounds like a fun hack -- I would be curious as to the resolution you achieve with these modules.--- The best description on the net about building a sonic anemometer is one by Hardy Lau:http://www.technik.dhbw-ravensburg.de/~lau/ultrasonic-anemometer.html I have also built one

Re: [time-nuts] Weather/units question for European members

2014-05-23 Thread David J Taylor
I am building a weather sensor that includes a ultrasonic anemometer to measure wind speed, direction, and air temperature. It uses 4 cheap ($1 each) HC-SR04 ultrasonic rangefinder modules that output a pulse width proportional to the time of flight of the sound signal (topic is time nut

Re: [time-nuts] Weather/units question for European members

2014-05-23 Thread Brian Lloyd
On Saturday, May 24, 2014, David J Taylor david-tay...@blueyonder.co.uk wrote: Now the question... I would like it to be able to output data in imperial or metric units. In what units is the typical wind speed reported (meters/sec, km/hour, ?). Also air pressure (millibars/hectopascals/

Re: [time-nuts] Weather/units question for European members

2014-05-23 Thread cfo
On Sat, 24 May 2014 01:16:32 +, Mark Sims wrote: Now the question... I would like it to be able to output data in imperial or metric units. In what units is the typical wind speed reported (meters/sec, km/hour, ?). Also air pressure (millibars/hectopascals/pascals/?). Our weather

Re: [time-nuts] Weather/units question for European members

2014-05-23 Thread Neville Michie
There is a great sonic anemometer in: An inexpensive sonic anemometer for eddy correlation G.S.Campbell and M.H.Unsworth, (1979), Journal of Applied Meteorology Vol 18, August 1979, Pp. 1072-1077. This unit uses 4000 CMOS, a LM301A and two cheap ultrasonic transducers. It operates a