Re: Young Dr Freud

2002-12-03 Thread Allen Esterson
On 2 November Beth wrote: Hi Allen, Thank you so much for taking the time and effort to answer my questions. I'm digesting the material you provided . I cannot tell a lie (as George Washington supposedly said, though that's most likely a myth too), I am a little sad that I'll no longer be able

Re: Young Dr Freud

2002-12-03 Thread Allen Esterson
Sorry, folks, about coming back to this topic just when you thought you’d heard the last of it (from me at least), but this time it’s to correct a momentary misapprehension of my own. On rereading my message just posted I realized that I had made an error. It is certainly true that around the

Re: Young Dr. Freud on PBS

2002-12-02 Thread Allen Esterson
such considerations, in more ways than one. The traditional account of the seduction theory as presented in “Young Dr Freud” has been drawn into the whole debate about the repression of memories of childhood abuse that are supposedly ‘recovered’ some decades later. Freud’s supposed experiences

Re: Young Dr Freud

2002-12-02 Thread Beth Benoit
Title: Re: Young Dr Freud Hi Allen, Thank you so much for taking the time and effort to answer my questions. I'm digesting the material you provided . I cannot tell a lie (as George Washington supposedly said, though that's most likely a myth too), I am a little sad that I'll no longer

Re: Young Dr. Freud on PBS

2002-12-01 Thread Beth Benoit
Title: Re: Young Dr. Freud on PBS Allen Easterson wrote a delightfully erudite expose of some of the Freud myths. Having just finished reading Allen's post along with my Sunday morning coffee, I've abjectly decided to add myself to the league of lazy TV watchers I so spurningly derided in my

Re: Young Dr. Freud on PBS

2002-12-01 Thread Stephen Black
that for the sequel to Young Dr. Freud, (will they call it Old Dr. Freud?), they'd do well to tap into Allen's knowledge about Freud. I hope the Freud Museum has him on call for consults. Well, Allen didn't actually see it but it was probably a good thing for his cardiovascular health. I kept

Re: Young Dr. Freud

2002-11-30 Thread Beth Benoit
Title: Re: Young Dr. Freud Can I put in a tiny vote for the PBS presentation of Freud? Yes, there were a lot of things missing. I would have loved, for example, to see more discussion of the uproar following Freud's presentation of Seduction Theory. It was mentioned, then not referred to again

Re: Young Dr. Freud again

2002-11-30 Thread Christopher D. Green
Stephen Black wrote: Nevertheless, a handy web search suggests that deep space astronomers do call what they do experiments, even if they don't randomly assign planets to conditions. For example, NASA has something called Clementine Deep Space Probe Science Experiment, and I think their

RE: Young Dr. Freud

2002-11-29 Thread Allen Esterson
On 28 November Stephen Black wrote: Young Dr. Freud, which I caught on PBS (US TV) last night thanks to the alert by Charles Harris is, as predicted by Charles, the standard admiring view as seen through the eyes of uncritical supporters. It offers no unpleasantness, no doubts, no dissenting

Young Dr. Freud again

2002-11-29 Thread Stephen Black
I had mentioned that the above TV programme had opened with a quote from Freud to the effect that he had invented a new scientific method for studying the mind. I sneered. On the contrary, I said, Percival Bailey had an old paper in which he claimed that Freud's scientific period ended in

Young Dr. Freud on PBS

2002-11-29 Thread Beth Benoit
Just saw Young Dr. Freud on PBS and it's very well done. As PBS repeats their specials often, it may be shown frequently in the near future. My area schedule shows that it will be shown again at these times: Saturday, November 30, 4am, WGBH 2 Sunday, December 1, 10:30pm, WGBH 44 Monday

RE: Young Dr. Freud

2002-11-28 Thread Rick Adams
Stephen wrote: That's Freud for you. A big wild man who has cocaine in his body. Isn't it a good thing we had Jung come along to straighten him out and make psychoanalysis scientific and respectable? Rick --always ready to add a bit of lateral motion to the thread ---

Re: Young Dr. Freud

2002-11-28 Thread Christopher D. Green
Stephen Black wrote: Bailey titles his piece Sigmund Freud: Scientific Period (1873- 1897). (Note that The Interpretation of Dreams was published in 1900.) In a discussion appended to his paper, Bailey was asked why he stopped at 1897 in Freud's career. He responded: If you will accept the

RE: Young Dr. Freud

2002-11-28 Thread Shearon, Tim
Christopher Green said: This is by no means to argue that Freud was correct. But surely that debate is long over. Questions about his historical influence are much more relevant. At the very least, he launched the psychodynamic approach to psychotherapy that dominated the whole of the 20th

Re: Young Dr. Freud

2002-11-28 Thread Christopher D. Green
Shearon, Tim wrote: Christopher, Not to defend S. Black specifically and I don't want to argue too much that point about the whole of established medical practice. First, I do think that Christopher might be being too kind to stop with the end of the 20th century with being skeptical about

RE: Young Dr. Freud

2002-11-28 Thread Shearon, Tim
Chris- I hope I did not provoke you as that wasn't my intention. I indeed may have missed your point. I also think you are missing my point. You said: Freud's practices were common for medical people of his day. If you think that's nonscientific so be it, but it can't be used as a criticism of

Another VCR alert: Young Dr. Freud, PBS

2002-11-27 Thread Charles Harris
I shudder at being the one to announce it, but here it is November 27 and no one has mentioned the 2-hour PBS documentary Young Dr. Freud that will be airing (in New York at least) tonight at 9 pm EST. Very likely it will be repeated later, but no dates are listed yet. And no doubt