Re: [tips] Canada's early intolerance

2010-11-23 Thread sblack
Despite Allen E's declaration that this thread, with its unlikely subject header, has reached its sell-by-date (that's best by to Canucks), I can't restrain myself here. I had asserted that the word verbiage used by Michael Smith to describe certain TIPS posters carried an insulting

Re: [tips] Canada's early intolerance

2010-11-23 Thread michael sylvester
] Canada's early intolerance Despite Allen E's declaration that this thread, with its unlikely subject header, has reached its sell-by-date (that's best by to Canucks), I can't restrain myself here. I had asserted that the word verbiage used by Michael Smith to describe certain TIPS posters

Re: [tips] Canada's early intolerance

2010-11-23 Thread Michael Smith
Well, I pay little attention to due dates :-) Hmm. It seems the point, silly as it is, is still not getting across. I'll try to simplify further... My point was: Must a post be in essay format to be well thought out, informative, and properly referenced? Put another way, the Essay Hypothesis: A

Re: [tips] Canada's early intolerance

2010-11-23 Thread John Kulig
Honors Plymouth State University Plymouth NH 03264 == - Original Message - From: Michael Smith tipsl...@gmail.com To: Teaching in the Psychological Sciences (TIPS) tips@fsulist.frostburg.edu Sent: Saturday, November 20, 2010 12:20:04 PM Subject: Re: [tips] Canada's

Re:[tips] Canada's early intolerance

2010-11-22 Thread Allen Esterson
On 21 November 2010 Michael Sylvester wrote: I was educated under the British system in my early youth and writing full sentences and elaborating on ideas were compulsory. One was judged by the depth nature of one's thinking. Michael: I fear those more rigorous days have long gone as far as

Re: [tips] Canada's early intolerance

2010-11-22 Thread Michael Smith
S. Black responds to this thread with: ...uncharacteristically disagreeable... I disagree. I don't find the discussion disagreeable, just a discussion. it's time I expressed an opinion OK. This must be significant I guess, but I'm not sure why. 'Verbiage' refers to more than just the length of

Re: [tips] Canada's early intolerance

2010-11-21 Thread sblack
Given that this uncharacteristically disagreeable thread concerning whether Allen Esterson's posts are are too long (although this applies to many others) continues to rage, it's time I expressed an opinion. Recent postings on TIPS are unfortunately beginning to remind me of that famous

Re: [tips] Canada's early intolerance

2010-11-21 Thread michael sylvester
I was educated under the British system in my early youth and writing full sentences and elaborating on ideas were compulsory.One was judged by the depth nature of one's thinking.Students were also ranked in the subjects they took and the GCE exams were sent to England to be graded.It is

Re:[tips] Canada's early intolerance

2010-11-20 Thread Allen Esterson
A postscript to my last post: John Serafin wrote: You know, Allen, you regularly remind us not to accept anything that someone else has written. What I have written before is rather more specific than this, along the lines that one should not accept *assertions just because one has read them

Re: [tips] Canada's early intolerance

2010-11-20 Thread Michael Smith
In response to: It is tiring and unnecessary (I think) to wade through a lot of verbiage particularly on a list-serve Allen said I find that a rather remarkable comment, on two counts. First, no one has to wade through any post on this listserv First the first statement isn't really remarkable

Re:[tips] Canada's early intolerance

2010-11-20 Thread Allen Esterson
I don't particularly want to prolong this discussion further, given that some other TIPSters have had their say and evidently no one else wants to come in on this, but Mike Smith's latest post deserves a response. Mike wrote: In response to: It is tiring and unnecessary (I think) to wade

Re: [tips] Canada's early intolerance

2010-11-19 Thread Michael Smith
It is tiring and unnecessary (I think) to wade through a lot of verbiage particularly on a list-serve. Perhaps what Chris meant was, instead of essays: skip the quotes make it point form with concision (of course the same criticism could be leveled at M. Palij who also tends to be an essay

Re: [tips] Canada's early intolerance

2010-11-19 Thread Mike Palij
On Fri, 19 Nov 2010 14:00:41 -0800, John Serafin wrote: To be as succinct as possible: I agree with Michael Smith here. Stop the thesis level posts. Allen can respond for himself. All I want to say is no one on Tips is obligated to read all of the posts that are made. If one does read all of

Re: [tips] Canada's early intolerance

2010-11-19 Thread Beth Benoit
I second Mike Palij's post. If you don't want to read a long, carefully written post, then don't. No one should chastise a TIPSter who posts an academic, referenced post, because it's too long. I love the scholarly expertise that some of our more erudite TIPSters offer. I love that Allen

Re:[tips] Canada's early intolerance

2010-11-18 Thread Allen Esterson
First a correction to my last post: It was Palmerston, not Lord Russell, who was the British Prime Minister at the time of the American Civil War; Russell was the Foreign Minister. Also: The Google Books edition *Great Britain and the American Civil War* by Ephraim Douglas Adams is dated 2006,

Re: [tips] Canada's early intolerance

2010-11-17 Thread Allen Esterson
Southwark College, London allenester...@compuserve.com http://www.esterson.org --- Re: [tips] Canada's early intolerance Christopher D. Green Tue, 16 Nov 2010 14:03:01 -0800 Allen Esterson wrote: Chris Green writes: Indeed, if you recall your American history class

Re: [tips] Canada's early intolerance

2010-11-17 Thread Christopher D. Green
to the Literature.Vol. 1*, p. 393 note 8: 397) http://tinyurl.com/ Allen Esterson Former lecturer, Science Department Southwark College, London allenester...@compuserve.com http://www.esterson.org --- Re: [tips] Canada's early intolerance Christopher D. Green Tue, 16

[tips] Canada's early intolerance

2010-11-16 Thread michael sylvester
OK,I agree to Canada's positive spin on immigration.However in the late fifties and early sixties,a group of Caribbean students staged a demonstration at Sir George Williams University in Montreal protesting attitudes and discrimination against the established academic community.All of those

Re: [tips] Canada's early intolerance

2010-11-16 Thread Christopher D. Green
michael sylvester wrote: OK,I agree to Canada's positive spin on immigration.However in the late fifties and early sixties,a group of Caribbean students staged a demonstration at Sir George Williams University in Montreal protesting attitudes and discrimination against the established

Re: [tips] Canada's early intolerance

2010-11-16 Thread Christopher D. Green
Allen Esterson wrote: Chris Green writes: Indeed, if you recall your American history class, you may remember that as long as the Civil War was officially about union, the British sided with the South (for the cotton) That you may recall this doesn't make it true. Britain was