Re: javagroups questions - Was: Jk2 object model

2004-01-16 Thread Henri Gomez
Filip Hanik a écrit : hi Henri, When I used JavaGroups (not anymore because of licensing) it was to do session replication. Any type of replication or clustering will always impact performance in a negative way, but instead of you achieve fail over and high availability. Now I use standard TCP

javagroups questions - Was: Jk2 object model

2004-01-14 Thread Henri Gomez
Did someone here (may be Filip), could tell us if the use of javagroups instead of standard tcp connections could have some speed impact (negative or positive). Just to have some clues in the current reflexion of jk/jk2 successor Regards

RE: javagroups questions - Was: Jk2 object model

2004-01-14 Thread Filip Hanik
-Original Message- From: Henri Gomez [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2004 2:59 AM To: Tomcat Developers List Subject: javagroups questions - Was: Jk2 object model Did someone here (may be Filip), could tell us if the use of javagroups instead of standard tcp connections could

Re: Jk2 object model + Netware OT

2004-01-13 Thread NormW
- Original Message - From: Mike Anderson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2004 5:01 AM Subject: RE: Jk2 object model I'm definitely interested in helping with this but feel I'm out of the loop a little. What areas would be best for me to research (JMX

RE: Jk2 object model

2004-01-12 Thread Mike Anderson
Developers List Subject: Re: Jk2 object model But this time I'd like to spend a month or so doing 'real' design without the single line of code. If we manage to put and describe our needs on the paper, the coding itself will took insignificant amount of time. If this plan shows

RE: Jk2 object model

2004-01-11 Thread Mladen Turk
From: Costin Manolache Sent: 11. sijeanj 2004 2:36 To: Tomcat Developers List Subject: Re: Jk2 object model But this time I'd like to spend a month or so doing 'real' design without the single line of code. If we manage to put and describe our needs on the paper, the coding

Re: Jk2 object model

2004-01-10 Thread Costin Manolache
Mladen Turk wrote: From: Henri Gomez As many I feel that jk (and maybe also jk2) are now pretty stable, and I don't see the need for a new just web/tomcat connector. Finally someone :-). That's why I did try to use the revolutionary approach. Jet another connector wouldn't make a much

Re: Jk2 object model

2004-01-09 Thread Bill Barker
- Original Message - From: Costin Manolache [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2004 8:51 PM Subject: Re: Jk2 object model Mladen Turk wrote: From: Costin Manolache So my suggestion ( deja vue ? ) is to use evolution :-). A change in the OO model

Re: Jk2 object model

2004-01-09 Thread jean-frederic clere
Mike Anderson wrote: I agree that the current connectors (jk and jk2) are fairly stable and done because they just work. The hardest part in using them is that there is a lot of duplicated setup between the Java/Tomcat side and the webserver configuration just to get things working. Then, when

RE: Jk2 object model

2004-01-09 Thread Mladen Turk
-Original Message- From: jean-frederic clere Sent: 9. sijeanj 2004 8:35 To: Tomcat Developers List Subject: Re: Jk2 object model The concept (approach) as I see it is to be able to make a connector (integrator), that would allow the zero-based-configuration. Meaning

Re: Jk2 object model

2004-01-08 Thread Henri Gomez
I'm pretty busy these days so I can't works on JK2 as I want to. Some ideas/reflexions. JK2 is very similar to JK, from the tomcat point of vue, since the same ajp13 protocol is used, and may be in such case we could see JK2 too similar to JK to see users switch to JK2 (for instance we're still

RE: Jk2 object model

2004-01-08 Thread Mladen Turk
much interest of the developer community thought. I also use the JK for production servers, and it is doing just fine for what it needs to. MT. -Original Message- From: Henri Gomez [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 8. sijeanj 2004 9:54 To: Tomcat Developers List Subject: Re: Jk2 object

Re: Jk2 object model

2004-01-08 Thread Henri Gomez
Mladen Turk a crit : Hi, Since I've started few months ago all the C++ fuzziness (I did posted even some source to Costin back then), my intention wasn't to CPP-ize the existing code, but rather to move that 'dead' code on some new tracks. What I'm looking since then is some kind of different

RE: Jk2 object model

2004-01-08 Thread Mladen Turk
-Original Message- From: Henri Gomez [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] I agree with you that this would be JK3, rather then JK2 on steroids :-), and it would require a different perspective. I'm in favor of _usability_ over performance in that new approach. JavaGroups or

RE: Jk2 object model

2004-01-08 Thread Mladen Turk
Hate to quote myself, but... As I said, the performance isn't a priority here, but rather usability. I'm sure that TC guys will be open here, and we will see (perhaps even in 5.1) the 'open TC API', that could be directly used, or seamlessly integrated from the native side. I would

Re: Jk2 object model

2004-01-08 Thread Costin Manolache
The major mistake in jk2 is the 2 in the name. It was an error to fork ( even if it was easier to code and move it ) instead of improving mod_jk and adding/fixing. In JNI mode and from configuration perspective - as well as ability to use non-tcp-socket communation - jk2 is way ahead. As code

RE: Jk2 object model

2004-01-08 Thread Mladen Turk
From: Costin Manolache So my suggestion ( deja vue ? ) is to use evolution :-). A change in the OO model ( if needed ) or fixing/improving the current one is not as big change as it seems - it's mostly in initialization code. How about 'revolution'? On the other hand how does the evolution

RE: Jk2 object model

2004-01-08 Thread Mike Anderson
I agree that the current connectors (jk and jk2) are fairly stable and done because they just work. The hardest part in using them is that there is a lot of duplicated setup between the Java/Tomcat side and the webserver configuration just to get things working. Then, when you add a new webapp

Re: Jk2 object model

2004-01-08 Thread Costin Manolache
Mladen Turk wrote: From: Costin Manolache So my suggestion ( deja vue ? ) is to use evolution :-). A change in the OO model ( if needed ) or fixing/improving the current one is not as big change as it seems - it's mostly in initialization code. How about 'revolution'? On the other hand how does

Re: Jk2 object model

2004-01-07 Thread Costin Manolache
Mladen Turk wrote: From Costin Manolache Sent: 6. sijeanj 2004 8:11 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Jk2 object model jean-frederic clere wrote: Costin Manolache wrote: I remember some time ago Mladen (?) was suggesting to use C++ for jk2 instead of the pseudo-OO programming. I am -1

Re: Jk2 object model

2004-01-07 Thread Bill Barker
- Original Message - From: Costin Manolache [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2004 11:06 PM Subject: Re: Jk2 object model Mladen Turk wrote: From Costin Manolache Sent: 6. sijeanj 2004 8:11 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Jk2 object model

RE: Jk2 object model

2004-01-07 Thread Mladen Turk
-Original Message- From: Bill Barker Sent: 7. sijeanj 2004 9:22 To: Tomcat Developers List Subject: Re: Jk2 object model I'm interested if jk2 could plug into more applications - there aren't that many generic connectors. KDE has one specialized for konqueror

Re: Jk2 object model

2004-01-07 Thread Glenn Nielsen
performance. Regards, Glenn On Wed, Jan 07, 2004 at 09:52:06AM +0100, Mladen Turk wrote: -Original Message- From: Bill Barker Sent: 7. sije?anj 2004 9:22 To: Tomcat Developers List Subject: Re: Jk2 object model I'm interested if jk2 could plug into more applications

Re: Jk2 object model

2004-01-07 Thread Kyle VanderBeek
On Tue, Jan 06, 2004 at 11:50:32AM +0100, Mladen Turk wrote: Me too... The JK2 IMO is a pretty dead project. Henri tried to boost that forcing the APR as a default, we did some work, but it is agin stalled. Could someone put a big warning statment on the web site about this? Honestly, 90%

Re: Jk2 object model

2004-01-06 Thread Costin Manolache
jean-frederic clere wrote: Costin Manolache wrote: I remember some time ago Mladen (?) was suggesting to use C++ for jk2 instead of the pseudo-OO programming. I am -1 for using C++... And wondering why you want to use C++. I don't actually want to use C++ - I'm just a bit unhappy with the

RE: Jk2 object model

2004-01-06 Thread Mladen Turk
From Costin Manolache Sent: 6. sijeanj 2004 8:11 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Jk2 object model jean-frederic clere wrote: Costin Manolache wrote: I remember some time ago Mladen (?) was suggesting to use C++ for jk2 instead of the pseudo-OO programming. I am -1

Jk2 object model

2004-01-05 Thread Costin Manolache
I remember some time ago Mladen (?) was suggesting to use C++ for jk2 instead of the pseudo-OO programming. Did anything got discussed/decided about this or the low-level model ? Costin - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL

Re: Jk2 object model

2004-01-05 Thread Bill Barker
- Original Message - From: Costin Manolache [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, January 04, 2004 11:44 PM Subject: Jk2 object model I remember some time ago Mladen (?) was suggesting to use C++ for jk2 instead of the pseudo-OO programming. Did anything got discussed

Re: Jk2 object model

2004-01-05 Thread Henri Gomez
Bill Barker a écrit : - Original Message - From: Costin Manolache [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, January 04, 2004 11:44 PM Subject: Jk2 object model I remember some time ago Mladen (?) was suggesting to use C++ for jk2 instead of the pseudo-OO programming. Did

Re: Jk2 object model

2004-01-05 Thread jean-frederic clere
Costin Manolache wrote: I remember some time ago Mladen (?) was suggesting to use C++ for jk2 instead of the pseudo-OO programming. I am -1 for using C++... And wondering why you want to use C++. Did anything got discussed/decided about this or the low-level model ? Costin