Re: WebDAV and TC5

2004-02-01 Thread Remy Maucherat
Costin Manolache wrote: Could someone explain what's the (current) difference between our webdav servlet and slide ? Looking at the site, slide seems to have far more features ( which is not necesarily good ). Is there a good point of maintaining 2 webdav solutions ? Could we just bundle slide

Re: WebDAV and TC5

2004-02-01 Thread Remy Maucherat
Mark Thomas wrote: From: Shapira, Yoav [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Howdy, I don't have a big objection. But we removed it from TC5 intentionally, not by accident. No one has been complaining, aside from the one user who just voice in a few minutes ago, so we should have a good argument for

Re: [OT] Re: WebDAV and TC5

2004-02-01 Thread Remy Maucherat
Shapira, Yoav wrote: But every time I install tomcat, I go through a set of steps that is always the same: - Unzip the distribution - Remove all its webapps - Strip server.xml down to a minimum I suppose I could just write some scripts to do the above, but a distribution that does it is relatively

RE: WebDAV and TC5

2004-02-01 Thread Mark Thomas
From: Remy Maucherat [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] The servlet should be mapped as /* (to override Jasper and all the others), and the welcome file list should be empty, right ? Yes. Note an empty welcome file list needs to be included to override the default defined in conf/web.xml Maybe

Re: WebDAV and TC5

2004-02-01 Thread Remy Maucherat
Mark Thomas wrote: Personally I prefer a working example with appropriate comments. It also saves me copying it from TC4 all the time ;) Cool. I think we need docs too (grin) :D (I know, I'm being mean) Rémy - To unsubscribe,

RE: WebDAV and TC5

2004-02-01 Thread Mark Thomas
Remy Maucherat wrote: Mark Thomas wrote: Personally I prefer a working example with appropriate comments. It also saves me copying it from TC4 all the time ;) Cool. I think we need docs too (grin) :D (I know, I'm being mean) Fair point though. I'll put it on my list of things to do.

Re: WebDAV and TC5

2004-01-31 Thread Costin Manolache
Remy Maucherat wrote: Mark Thomas wrote: All, Any objections to adding the WebDAV web application to TC5? The plan is to just copy the files across from TC4, modify the build scripts as required and make a small change to the web.xml to overcome an issue with welcome files. If no-one objects,

Re: WebDAV and TC5

2004-01-30 Thread BaTien Duong
. Thanks. BaTien DBGROUPS -Original Message- From: Mark Thomas [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2004 3:10 PM To: Tomcat-Dev Subject: WebDAV and TC5 All, Any objections to adding the WebDAV web application to TC5? The plan is to just copy the files across from TC4

RE: [OT] Re: WebDAV and TC5

2004-01-30 Thread Shapira, Yoav
Howdy, Yes, but soon you're going to pitch a HTTP-server-in-100k, complete with its own proprietary API ;) The embedded distribution is IMO good for a minimal distribution. ;) Not, I don't want a proprietary anything as in the Jetty world. That's no good for any organization that wants

RE: WebDAV and TC5

2004-01-30 Thread Mark Thomas
From: Shapira, Yoav [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Howdy, I don't have a big objection. But we removed it from TC5 intentionally, not by accident. No one has been complaining, aside from the one user who just voice in a few minutes ago, so we should have a good argument for adding it back,

WebDAV and TC5

2004-01-29 Thread Mark Thomas
All, Any objections to adding the WebDAV web application to TC5? The plan is to just copy the files across from TC4, modify the build scripts as required and make a small change to the web.xml to overcome an issue with welcome files. If no-one objects, I'll do this tomorrow. Mark

RE: WebDAV and TC5

2004-01-29 Thread Shapira, Yoav
Howdy, Why do it now? I haven't seen demand for it on the user list... Yoav Shapira Millennium ChemInformatics -Original Message- From: Mark Thomas [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2004 3:10 PM To: Tomcat-Dev Subject: WebDAV and TC5 All, Any objections to adding

RE: WebDAV and TC5

2004-01-29 Thread George MATKOVITS
Please, PLEASE add it! There is no demand because MOST users do not know any compatible clients! Thank you - George From: Shapira, Yoav [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Tomcat Developers List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Tomcat Developers List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: WebDAV and TC5 Date: Thu, 29 Jan

Re: WebDAV and TC5

2004-01-29 Thread Filip Hanik
+1 why not, if it is in T4, lets have it in T5 - Original Message - From: Mark Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Tomcat-Dev [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2004 12:10 PM Subject: WebDAV and TC5 All, Any objections to adding the WebDAV web application to TC5? The plan

RE: WebDAV and TC5

2004-01-29 Thread Shapira, Yoav
-Original Message- From: Filip Hanik [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2004 4:14 PM To: Tomcat Developers List Subject: Re: WebDAV and TC5 +1 why not, if it is in T4, lets have it in T5 - Original Message - From: Mark Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Tomcat-Dev [EMAIL

Re: WebDAV and TC5

2004-01-29 Thread Filip Hanik
I don't have a big objection. But we removed it from TC5 intentionally, ah I missed that, what was the argument for removing it? Filip - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL

[OT] Re: WebDAV and TC5

2004-01-29 Thread Jess Holle
George MATKOVITS wrote: Please, PLEASE add it! There is no demand because MOST users do not know any compatible clients! Thank you - George WebDAV seems to be largely an empty promise due to the lack of reasonable, compatible clients. 90% of all clients are Microsoft Windows. Microsoft

Re: [OT] Re: WebDAV and TC5

2004-01-29 Thread Julian Reschke
Jess Holle wrote: WebDAV seems to be largely an empty promise due to the lack of reasonable, compatible clients. 90% of all clients are Microsoft Windows. Microsoft Windows' Web Folders support WebDAV to a *small* degree. Yet the way this is integrated into the OS is at such a level that 99%

Re: [OT] Re: WebDAV and TC5

2004-01-29 Thread Jess Holle
Julian Reschke wrote: Jess Holle wrote: WebDAV seems to be largely an empty promise due to the lack of reasonable, compatible clients. 90% of all clients are Microsoft Windows. Microsoft Windows' Web Folders support WebDAV to a *small* degree. Yet the way this is integrated into the OS is

Re: [OT] Re: WebDAV and TC5

2004-01-29 Thread Julian Reschke
Jess Holle wrote: How does the user use the filesystem driver? net use ... The end-user certainly cannot achieve anything meaningful via web folders. I did a lot of testing in this regard. Well, I disagree. Lots of my customers use webfolders heavily. Now if there is a better level of

Re: [OT] Re: WebDAV and TC5

2004-01-29 Thread Filip Hanik
[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Tomcat Developers List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2004 2:01 PM Subject: Re: [OT] Re: WebDAV and TC5 Jess Holle wrote: How does the user use the filesystem driver? net use ... The end-user certainly cannot achieve anything meaningful via web folders. I

Re: WebDAV and TC5

2004-01-29 Thread Remy Maucherat
Mark Thomas wrote: All, Any objections to adding the WebDAV web application to TC5? The plan is to just copy the files across from TC4, modify the build scripts as required and make a small change to the web.xml to overcome an issue with welcome files. If no-one objects, I'll do this tomorrow.

RE: [OT] Re: WebDAV and TC5

2004-01-29 Thread Shapira, Yoav
Howdy, I don't think small market shares or lack of clients is a reason for exclude a server feature. They are separate. If the WebDAV app added some negative impact to the tomcat server, then take it out, but if not, then lets add it back in. Even if WebDAV is useful in the general sense (I

Re: [OT] Re: WebDAV and TC5

2004-01-29 Thread Jess Holle
Shapira, Yoav wrote: Howdy, I don't think small market shares or lack of clients is a reason for exclude a server feature. They are separate. If the WebDAV app added some negative impact to the tomcat server, then take it out, but if not, then lets add it back in. Even if

Re: [OT] Re: WebDAV and TC5

2004-01-29 Thread Remy Maucherat
Shapira, Yoav wrote: Howdy, I don't think small market shares or lack of clients is a reason for exclude a server feature. They are separate. If the WebDAV app added some negative impact to the tomcat server, then take it out, but if not, then lets add it back in. Even if WebDAV is useful in

Re: WebDAV and TC5

2004-01-29 Thread Tim Funk
I have mixed feelings. I don't think it belongs in the tomcat distribution. I'd rather see the WebDav servlet get moved to another jakarta (commons?) project. Like commons-webapps, commons-servlets. But then again the webdav servlet is tomcat specific code and might be hard being ported to

Re: [OT] Re: WebDAV and TC5

2004-01-29 Thread Jess Holle
Remy Maucherat wrote: Yes, but soon you're going to pitch a HTTP-server-in-100k, complete with its own proprietary API ;) The embedded distribution is IMO good for a minimal distribution. I for one wasn't about to :-) Rather I think that the module-catalog approach broadens the exposure of the