Re: how to suppor 30000 concurrent users

2003-08-14 Thread Peter Lin
is such case (heavy load) compared to tomcat? thanks and regards Prince - Original Message - From: Angus Mezick To: Tomcat Users List Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2003 6:37 PM Subject: RE: how to suppor 3 concurrent users With that many users you are going to HAVE to cluster if for no other

Re: how to suppor 30000 concurrent users

2003-08-14 Thread Prince
PROTECTED] To: Tomcat Users List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2003 6:37 PM Subject: RE: how to suppor 3 concurrent users With that many users you are going to HAVE to cluster if for no other reason than to provide backup for system maintanence. As to how many, the answer is it depends

Re: how to suppor 30000 concurrent users

2003-08-14 Thread Rick Roberts
? --Angus -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2003 10:25 AM To: Tomcat Users List Subject: RE: how to suppor 3 concurrent users Sorry for being thick but Im a bit confused as to when you are doing anything with the sessions? If I

RE: how to suppor 30000 concurrent users

2003-08-14 Thread Angus Mezick
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2003 10:52 AM To: Tomcat Users List Subject: Re: how to suppor 3 concurrent users I have always wondered how serious load balancing was done :) Is this technique documented anywhere? I would love to read up on it. Thanks Angus Mezick

Re: how to suppor 30000 concurrent users

2003-08-14 Thread blair
Angus Mezick [EMAIL PROTECTED] 05/08/2003 15:11 Please respond to Tomcat Users List To: Tomcat Users List [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject:RE: how to suppor 3 concurrent users Doesn't seem to have that much of an effect. I guess I should profile it though. I don't

RE: how to suppor 30000 concurrent users

2003-08-14 Thread Angus Mezick
, August 05, 2003 9:17 AM To: 'Tomcat Users List' Subject: RE: how to suppor 3 concurrent users I always wondered about how high-profile sites like Ebay and Amazon updated their systems because they never seem to place messages at their sites regarding system downtime for routine

Re: how to suppor 30000 concurrent users

2003-08-10 Thread Vic Cekvenich
If you use Resin/J:Rockit/NewISys 2100, you can do at least 4,000 cocurent users w/ sub second response time. (test your app w/ free DiselTest - part of Jasic and linked on basicPortal.com, other links there to) NewIsys is a 1U. A 19 rack can hold 40. You need 3-4 racks. He.net charges $400 per

RE: how to suppor 30000 concurrent users

2003-08-09 Thread Angus Mezick
: RE: how to suppor 3 concurrent users Sorry for being thick but Im a bit confused as to when you are doing anything with the sessions? If I make a request to one server, then go on to another for the next request, how does server 2 get my session from server 1 without server 1

RE: how to suppor 30000 concurrent users

2003-08-08 Thread pete . storey
any change is made to it? Pete Angus Mezick [EMAIL PROTECTED] 05/08/2003 15:11 Please respond to Tomcat Users List To: Tomcat Users List [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject:RE: how to suppor 3 concurrent users Doesn't seem to have that much of an effect

RE: how to suppor 30000 concurrent users

2003-08-08 Thread pete . storey
Angus, doesnt using a shared jdbc based session manager slow the whole thing down a lot? Why dont you just use session persistence? Pete

RE: how to suppor 30000 concurrent users

2003-08-08 Thread Angus Mezick
terabytes of disk while only have 2 GB of memory. Seems to be an easy trade. --Angus -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2003 9:40 AM To: Tomcat Users List Subject: RE: how to suppor 3 concurrent users Angus

RE: how to suppor 30000 concurrent users

2003-08-06 Thread pete . storey
Oh OK cool so it is how I thought - presumably you dont use the session very much (in terms of sending stuff to it) or else there would be one serious amount of db work! Pete

RE: how to suppor 30000 concurrent users

2003-08-06 Thread Angus Mezick
With that many users you are going to HAVE to cluster if for no other reason than to provide backup for system maintanence. As to how many, the answer is it depends on the hardware you are going to use and the types of load your webapp puts on the system. When you say 30k concurrent users do you

RE: how to suppor 30000 concurrent users

2003-08-06 Thread Eric J. Pinnell
I would also do a serious reality check on the 30,000 concurrent users number. After going through something like the drill below you will find that you have architected yourself one big system. The sticker shock alone might be enough for people to go back and seriously reconsider their numbers.

RE: how to suppor 30000 concurrent users

2003-08-05 Thread Angus Mezick
: Friday, August 02, 2002 9:21 AM To: Tomcat Users List Subject: Re: how to suppor 3 concurrent users hi Angus, from ur reply what i understand is, first I have to develop the application (with maximum tuning possible from scripting side) and the deploy it on a server and load test

Re: how to suppor 30000 concurrent users

2003-08-05 Thread Prince
but I had have 2 or 3 terabytes of disk while only have 2 GB of memory. Seems to be an easy trade. --Angus -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2003 9:40 AM To: Tomcat Users List Subject: RE: how to suppor 3 concurrent users

RE: how to suppor 30000 concurrent users

2003-08-05 Thread Raffi
individually while the other nodes support user requests, or perhaps it's done differently. Can you explain, thanks! Raffi -Original Message- From: Angus Mezick [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2003 9:07 AM To: Tomcat Users List Subject: RE: how to suppor 3 concurrent users

RE: how to suppor 30000 concurrent users

2003-08-05 Thread Ralph Einfeldt
build a model like - each user is on the site for n Minutes - each user makes n requests - the mean time between to page requests is n seconds - each page request creates n http requests - specify the average size for an http request - specify the average ratio of request/db access .