Michael wrote:
Since I just posted such a message let me explain why I am
installing 4.1.x. It is for a third party software the latest release
of which requires Servlet spec 2.3. That is supported by TC 4 only.
The vendor does not take any responsibilty that their product will work
with
Sometimes we developers have no choice on the version that we
run. We were upgraded from 4.1.12 to 4.1.30 last weekend.
This only happened because IT wanted to upgrade from SLES7 to
SLES8 and 4.1.30 is the version that YAAST had. If it had been
up to my part of the We, we would have been on 5.0
What is more, a lot of app's for big companies are just forgotten or
have a few users, so why spend time upgrading to a newer version of
tomcat?
Paul said:
Sometimes one dont need to be faster.
I'm talking about a old legacy app (not critical - intranet), running
very well for a couple
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What is more, a lot of app's for big companies are just forgotten or
have a few users, so why spend time upgrading to a newer version of
tomcat?
Paul said:
Sometimes one dont
discussion in various offline forums I belong to.
Yoav Shapira
Millennium Research Informatics
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What is more, a lot
Hi,
We don't foster the use of older branches. We always encourage people
to upgrade, and I think the text on the Tomcat home and status pages is
clear to that effect.
And by and large users do upgrade, I think. You still see Tomcat 3 and
4 questions, and you'll see them forever, but I believe
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From: John Villar
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That's true yoav, actually i live off that kind of things,
however, what
really amazes me is the messages that arrive at this list
Wendy Smoak wrote:
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i don't think that every T4 user has HP-UX
No... by my count, I think there are three of us. :)
And don't forget me... I'm the guy who runs Tomcat on OpenVMS on an HP Alpha
system [well, really I think of them as DEC Alpha, not as Compaq
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Beautiful. I wish I thought of it.
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A question to everyone out there. why does anyone use nowadays
Tomcat 4 branch?. isn't tomcat 5 branch more bug free, featurefull
and backwards compatible?
that question has haunted me from the beginning of joining this list.
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Gerente de Proyectos
Computadores Flor
From: John Villar [EMAIL PROTECTED]
A question to everyone out there. why does anyone use nowadays
Tomcat 4 branch?. isn't tomcat 5 branch more bug free, featurefull
and backwards compatible?
that question has haunted me from the beginning of joining this list.
Because we're on
Hmm that seems a valid argument however, i want to know what
every other person in the mailing list says. i don't think that
every T4 user has HP-UX (its a posibillity, however, i've seen comments
like i run tomcat 4.1.x on W2K)
John Villar
Gerente de Proyectos
Computadores Flor
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i don't think that every T4 user has HP-UX
No... by my count, I think there are three of us. :)
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Sometimes there are old sw, in old servers, that was not upgraded for
some (stupid?) reason.
Some examples:
- if the client does not pay for the upgrade
- if there are a old compiled webapp that cannot be replaced
Regards,
Paul
John Villar escribió:
Hmm that seems a valid argument
On Wed, Sep 15, 2004 at 04:07:52PM -0400, John Villar wrote:
: A question to everyone out there. why does anyone use nowadays
: Tomcat 4 branch?.
Some more conservative shops intentionally lag behind on releases. The
reasons range from afraid to upgrade to don't feel the need to
upgrade
Yep, that's true but T5 is way faster than T4 or T3 and is
comparable to Apache (Yoav's word, not threefold speeds anymore LOL)
John Villar
Gerente de Proyectos
Computadores Flor Hard Soft 2058 C.A.
www.florhard.com
Pablo Lillia escribió:
Sometimes there are old sw, in old servers, that
I think you've got a point with the afraid to upgrade however, i
think that the Tomcat community should fight this way of thinking to
minimize maintainability, someone has to develop a side by side
Comparative brochure of tomcat 5 benefits. maybe i'll write one. The
don't feel the need
Sometimes one dont need to be faster.
I'm talking about a old legacy app (not critical - intranet), running
very well for a couple of years in the same old server.
John Villar escribió:
Yep, that's true but T5 is way faster than T4 or T3 and is
comparable to Apache (Yoav's word, not
John Villar escribió:
...
the recompile problem: that wouldn't happen if you had a good software
provider i'm against any provider that forces their customers to
stick to an old dying tomcat revision.
...
That's right. But, in real life, sometimes we have not choice :D
Good providers may
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i don't think that every T4 user has HP-UX
No... by my count, I think there are three of us. :)
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I am in the process of moving from 4.0 to 5.0 on HPUX. So far - 5.0 has been
pretty sweet, here were the worst of my problems:
(1) Bad coder karma
%page import=java.util.*,java.io.*,% will cause an error with the
trailing comma
(2) (more bad coder karma) Placing return statements in your JSP
On Wed, Sep 15, 2004 at 04:07:52PM -0400, John Villar wrote:
A question to everyone out there. why does anyone use nowadays
Tomcat 4 branch?. isn't tomcat 5 branch more bug free, featurefull
and backwards compatible?
Perhaps because the tomcat home page seems to encourage the
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